hbomberguy / Harry "Harris" Brewis / Slazenger Rapemachine Whiteshaf - "Rational" SJW, former SA goon/LPer, sexual harassment apologist, raised $350K+ for child abuse cult

IH's use of the article was to deprive the authors of their market and make money off of it. If you disagree with this assessment, you should leave.
Depriving them of their market is assuming that the article was getting any sizable traffic at all when IH made the video. IH and MF are two completely different markets, sure he profited off of their work, but unless they are regularly reading mental floss content already, I doubt many people were going to read that article anyway.
 
Depriving them of their market is assuming that the article was getting any sizable traffic at all when IH made the video
nope. you can't just steal someone's shit and then say that they weren't popular anyways. that's not a defense, legally or ethically. might does not make right.

as mentioned before, narrating an article (thus converting the medium from written to audio) is not a fair use. that is a reserved market.
 
nope. you can't just steal someone's shit and then say that they weren't popular anyways. that's not a defense, legally or ethically. might does not make right.
Josh, would you at least agree that the animations, narration, and comedic tone do change the video from merely a copy paste? I'd wager the people watching IH videos aren't terribly likely to have read through an article.
 
Completely wrong. Copyrighted content found in threads on this forum is accessed by people critical of the people involved. It is a legally distinct market, and the copyrighted material is necessary for the criticism. I would argue that literally not a single person has ever accessed the Kiwi Farms to see something that would otherwise be behind a paywall.


What? Because Sneedchat is visually similar to Discord? You can't copyright, patent, or trademark a website design. That's also case law. Discord's layout is what most people using chatrooms are used to now so that's why they look similar.

If you guys are just going to start accusing me of theft and the Kiwi Farms of being a piracy site, I am just going to start rolling heads
Exactly there's actually a lot of problems with copyright broadness in the US like Taylor Swift being able to copyright Shake It Off which is a very common saying.
It's the same reason that I was really glad when that ridiculous lawsuit by Marvin Gaye's estate failed against Ed Sheeran you shouldn't be able to copyright a style of music
People are pigeonholing themselves too hard. I think IH not citing the article is dumb, but ultimately it changes nothing for me as a viewer. I do wish he had done it, as it would have cost him nothing at the time, and it would have averted quite literally this.
H bomber guy it's now making $10000 more off of his patreon he doesn't give as*** about some s***** clickbait website losing some revenue from internet historian copying one of the articles.
nope. you can't just steal someone's shit and then say that they weren't popular anyways. that's not a defense, legally or ethically. might does not make right.

as mentioned before, narrating an article (thus converting the medium from written to audio) is not a fair use. that is a reserved market.
Might makes 100% of right anybody telling you otherwise is trying to sell you some b******* solution.
Example the Taliban
Russia and Ukraine
The United States is war crimes during World War II
 
Josh, would you at least agree that the animations, narration, and comedic tone do change the video from merely a copy paste? I'd wager the people watching IH videos aren't terribly likely to have read through an article.
No. The animations reflect the author's language. The script for the animations was written by a third party who was not compensated for their work. Even without the legal concept of copyright, that is not ok.

Might makes 100% of right anybody telling you otherwise is trying to sell you some b******* solution.
Example the Taliban
Russia and Ukraine
The United States is war crimes during World War II
I thought you had died, Mr. Kissinger?
 
No. The animations reflect the author's language. The script for the animations was written by a third party who was not compensated for their work. Even without the legal concept of copyright, that is not ok.
I mean, I do agree he should have credited the article and author, and probably asked permission, but I guess what I'm getting at is that the actual subtractive effect to the article is almost non-existent.
 
Exactly there's actually a lot of problems with copyright broadness in the US like Taylor Swift being able to copyright Shake It Off which is a very common saying.
It's the same reason that I was really glad when that ridiculous lawsuit by Marvin Gaye's estate failed against Ed Sheeran you shouldn't be able to copyright a style of music

still in sane they won over Blurred lines though.
 
If he had reached an agreement with the original authors, the original version would still be up.
Not if they asked for alterations in the video it wouldn’t…

In fact, it’s usually the most basic way people ask for such issues to be fixed. Take down and alter the offending content and reupload with citation to original source.
 
Look, I get finding what IH did distasteful, but many people have pointed out that he took down and edited the video, which I guess some people also think is wrong; what should he have done, made a ukulele apology video? Not everyone has to share every detail of their lives or work online, and he doesn’t have to prove that he made things right to people who will claim he never can because he fucked up in the first place. Instead, we have to settle for people just assuming that he made the re upload because “he knew he was wrong” instead of the possibility that he and the author of the article worked things out behind the scenes, because people aren’t allowed to fuck up, fix their mistakes and go on with their lives.
 
H bomber guy it's now making $10000 more off of his patreon he doesn't give as*** about some s***** clickbait website losing some revenue from internet historian copying one of the articles.

That's a good point. This isn't a victory for laws against plagerism, this is just some breadtuber raking in cash after making a 4-hour hitpiece. Nobody watched that video to be educated about plagerism, they watched it because it's e-drama. All this is going to do is cause more people to circle the wagons about their favorite e-daddies.
 
I think IH not citing the article is dumb, but ultimately it changes nothing for me as a viewer. I do wish he had done it, as it would have cost him nothing at the time, and it would have averted quite literally this.
Pretty much this exactly, I had already known of the story of Floyd Collins, but it was nice to have that video on in the background since I found it something funny in the background and maybe pick up something new. Had he listed the original article then there wouldn't be a fuss since it would not be seen as an original work and he still would have made the same amount of money on it.
Copyrighted content found in threads on this forum is accessed by people critical of the people involved. It is a legally distinct market, and the copyrighted material is necessary for the criticism. I would argue that literally not a single person has ever accessed the Kiwi Farms to see something that would otherwise be behind a paywall
People read and watch movie reviews before going to see a movie to see if it is worth their time. They might be retarded for doing so since going in blind can give a better experience in many instances but that is a case of a critique costing a movie revenue that is completely protected. I do think that of the tens of thousands of people who have accessed the farms at least one person who is hostile to the subject of a thread might have paid of a premium account to have a behind the scenes peak or to leak the pictures themselves. As for the discord thing I had only mentioned it because I remember you saying you were trying to rip them off as much as possible in a MATI, but I could be wrong. But according to the standard set by HBG a shoutout to discord for design/layout inspiration would appease the anglo. I am not trying to accuse of any legal wrongdoing. Regardless I will admit my analogy was rather shit and I am starting to get off the topic of the thread.
 
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No. The animations reflect the author's language. The script for the animations was written by a third party who was not compensated for their work. Even without the legal concept of copyright, that is not ok.
He should have paid the authors for the rights of the work he used to make hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Maybe my stash of Viper crack is hitting too hard, but this thread is:

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For all anyone knows he has.
I'm repeating myself for the 100th time because people are too lazy to read the thread as per usual.

If he had paid them, the original video would be up.
He did not pay them, so he reuploaded the new and inferior version.

The probability that he both paid them and then deleted the original and uploaded a modified, inferior copy is basically zero.

Maybe my stash of Viper crack is hitting too hard, but this thread is:
People aren't going to admit I'm right because the accuser is a faggot and the accused is based hungarian meme man. That's just how it goes these days.
 
If he had paid them, the original video would be up.
That’s not certain. They might have asked for more than just money. As said, video removal, re-edit and reupload with citation and possible money compensation is fairly standard for this type of thing when companies get involved.

I’m sure someone will ask and he’ll answer eventually. People will be asking until he does.
 
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