hbomberguy / Harry "Harris" Brewis / Slazenger Rapemachine Whiteshaf - "Rational" SJW, former SA goon/LPer, sexual harassment apologist, raised $350K+ for child abuse cult

Null said:
People aren't going to admit I'm right because the accuser is a faggot and the accused is based hungarian meme man. That's just how it goes these days.
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That faggot can be right, and still be a drama stirring faggot. I can think IH fucked up, but still hate that faggot that called it out. I don't get why IH didn't just cite the fucking thing, or reach out to him before publishing it. It took what, several months to animate, edit and narrate? Fucking lazy and stupid to not at least reach out to the dude. Part of it could be he didn't expect it to blow up into tens of millions of views too. Still IH fucked up, and I am very interested in how he handles it.
 
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Just gave this a watch and I've only heard of a few of them.

Glad he went in on that faggot. He's the classic case of "they're attacking me because of gay" whenever they want to deflect the blame.
 
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Just gave this a watch and I've only heard of a few of them.

Glad he went in on that faggot. He's the classic case of "they're attacking me because of gay" whenever they want to deflect the blame.
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The misogyny accusations just ring hollow to me. James is essentially describing the concept of a fag hag, which really isn't that out there. Straight women absolutely love keeping gay men as pets.
 
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Georgio Cocklord said:
Very good argument, I like this cause it's the reasoning jim sterling gave as to why piracy is okay especially rom distribution and Jim sterling is best buddies with Harry. It's also the argument I make for the same thing so fair.

Generally difference between homage and plagiarism is the fact that people who make homages are blatant about it. Homages in art generally are done with the in hopes that the audience recognises the source while plagiarism is done in hopes that the audience cannot recognise the source. Sampling in music also works the same way. It's a subtle difference which relies on the author's intent itself and that generally pans out pretty accurately depending on the situation. Also homage accounts for less than 50% of the final product while plagiarism accounts for more than.
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I think that's just cope to deal with the fact that alot of media is derivative and its nearly impossible to draw a satisfactory line on when you've transformed it enough and when you owe money and didn't earn what you got because your content is actually someone else's because it wasn't deemed original enough.

I had a necron themed profile for a while, imo they're actually just skeleton terminators with minimal difference design wise, they feel different to me because of an attachment to a theme but I immediately thought "oh a terminator" first seeing them. That company is benefiting greatly on someone else's design when I might have spent money on terminators franchise instead. Imo that's a very foggy area if you're trying to delineate between homage and theft.

What if I make a mario "homage" every big release and try to muscle into that market? And spend tons on marketing to assure people my games will hit all the same notes but in ways nintendos lawyers might struggle to really nail down as theft? I've basically circumvented any intent copyright and intellectual rights originally had anyway.

I'm beginning to see copyright for creative works as more and more an intangible fantasy that just selectively punishes people for the natural process of idea exchange. Especially when piracy and the current political divide have basically made it largely based on supporting creators more of your own volition like a patron rather than as a consumer being kept from a product you need.
 
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Sammich said:
Still IH fucked up, and I am very interested in how he handles it.
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He'll bring it up on occasion and laugh about it, and in doing so totally win. HBG's audience crossover with him is almost miniscule, as long as he holds his ground nothing will happen.
 
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Cheeseknife said:
IH isn't obligated to do anything. And it's probably best that he doesn't do anything because Harris has no authority over him.
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I hope ih breaks into Harry's house and subtly shifts everything everyday to gaslight him into a paranoia, heat a pan and some food with a blow torch to make him think the ovens on before retreating leaving no trace things like that.

Before finally one night leaving undeniable proof someone was there but just leaving forever after that.

That would be my suggestion for a good faith debate on the issue
 
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Plagiarism on Youtube is interesting. It feels a lot more personal if one Youtuber plagiarized or copied a smaller creator or vice versa but ripping off articles and frankensteining them together to be a more coherent summary is par for the course if you are covering things like caving incidents. Some lines IH spoke are word for word from the article, with some very minute addition of words and breaking out the thesaurus or changing words around is still plagiarism, but exceptions are made when something being presented cannot be simplified verbally or distilled any further than the original idea you're referencing.

It's interesting because for me one of the most plagiarized things on Youtube has been the John Jones Nutty Putty Cave incident - the topic is a dead horse beaten so much that it may as well be a mere stain on the ground because so many videos tend to reference one or two of the same articles on the incident that they all blend together into becoming nearly indistinguishable. When a caver dies inside a cave there is only so much ground that can be covered. The same thing goes for the Floyd Collins incident I imagine, since this is apparently a more famous phenomena. Me personally, the controversy that came to mind of the IH Man In Cave vid wasn't the plagiarism but this one guy who made a whole video critiquing the video for its inaccuracies. Makes you wonder, is accuracy or citation the most important if we have to split hairs on the morality of Youtube videos?
 
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having now seen his vid, he's an insufferable faggot.
but I think the best part of it is ~3:29-3:33
The first part of his conclusion lacks soy and faggot jokes while putting 'the problem' into words.

plagiarism is only really a problem if you're too close to the source while hiding your source.

The second best part is a the shitflinging between faggot, seeing them implode.
Even the sperging here is more fun than his video to me.

also agree with null, some niggers go too far with copypaste while hiding it, and internet drama is always a positive. no matter the person.
 
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Cheeseknife said:
Null has pretty much been on point, though. Technically, Harris wasn't wrong.

That being said, it's still a selective hit-piece made by a guy who ignored Hassan Piker for doing the exact same thing he is bitching about.
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Worse, he had to kneel before the man and ask for permission to make a joke.

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Getting Sentimental said:
The only person he owes this to is the original content owner, which by and large based on the lack of any lawsuit in sight for either copyright infringement or plagiarism, has likely already been done.

Apologizing to breadtubers is just stating to the sharks that blood is in the water.
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I'd say he owes an explanation if not an apology to his fans as to why the video was yeeted off the internet for months and now is different than they remembered with a bunch of hacksawed sections. It's not a great situation to be seen to bow to the soyking but it just proves he should have explained things and owned up to a mistake back when it first happened rather than getting caught in a video essay when literally all of this could be avoided.
 
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Rimbaud's Bussy said:
I'd say he owes an explanation if not an apology to his fans as to why the video was yeeted off the internet for months and now is different than they remembered with a bunch of hacksawed sections. It's not a great situation to be seen to bow to the soyking but it just proves he should have explained things and owned up to a mistake back when it first happened rather than getting caught in a video essay when literally all of this could be avoided.
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Thats fair enough, I just don't trust Harris is just doing it for the poor IH fans wondering why a video is reuploaded when he spends every second he's not pointing out an instance of plagiarism pointing out an edgy joke IH or one of his fans made a decade ago.
 
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Null said:
In civil law, there is a concept called Conversion. If you take something from somebody and use it to create profit, under common law, you actually do owe them the gains from your misuse of their property.
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How much do you think Internet Historian owes (in sheer dollar amount or percentage of that video's revenue) Mentalfloss or whoever in particular wrote that article?
 
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