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It's funny to me because we famously do not have a constitution (yet) and what you posted is a draft.
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Wow, very interesting.
Anyway, here's the latest shipment of thermal underwear ordered by the IDF war criminals, fresh off the boat from Turkey:
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IDF seemingly just hit a meeting of senior Hamas figures according to the gaza report Twitter account. Looks like injured figures were taken to al nasr hospital.
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My bad, confused it with the Basic Laws of Israel which are functionally a constitution and prescribe the same things:
The Basic Law that defines Israel as a nation-state of the Jewish people was passed in 2018, this is what I had attempted to recall when I found the draft Constitution instead:
The point stands regarding Israel's criteria for Jewishness. I'll update that post to link the Basic Law instead of draft Constitution.
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I’d like to hear where you are getting the figure of civilians killed in Gaza from.
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Security camera footage of Amit Soussana (now freed) being dragged off to Gaza on 7/10:
(The footage was broadcast with her permission.)
(The footage was broadcast with her permission.)
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Israels criteria for Jewishness is anyone who has an ethnic Jewish grandparent and their family. You can move to Israel as someone who isn't even religiously Jewish and who would not be considered a Jew by Judaism.
I don't get the seethe in your initial post for Israel being an ethnic state when Israel has supported Hungary in their attempts to refuse immigrants to remain an ethnic state and directly called out George Soros in their defence of Orban. They also support a Kurdish state.
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Not passing judgement on ethnostates, just saying that Israel is one
Ah cool so if the genes are pure it's all good
I think you can read as well as I can, and the Hamas-linked Health Ministry is still the only game in town when it comes to counting corpses. Please decide between TPD or "most moral army in the world" mode before replying
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Not even because you can be only 25 percent Jewish genetically and married to a non jew with non Jewish kids and still be accepted. There's many cases where the state allows someone to immigrate as a Jew but the Jews in Israel don't recognize them as religiously Jewish.
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Calling it “counting” is a stretch. Like when they “counted” 471 corpses and 342 injured after the Al-Ahli explosion.
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Not quite the Nuremberg Laws but not far off, either. There was no broader point, just that Israel's an ethnostate with ancestry tests for citizenship that promotes the interests of its Jewish people first. Old news to Israelis but relevant to Americans. We're taught that 1) ethnostates are dangerous, outmoded, and undemocratic and 2) Israel is our greatest ally. You see the disconnect. I don't think there's much more to say on this.
The law you mentioned leans permissive for a reason:
Another explanation is that following the capture of the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the 1967 Six Day War, it became more apparent than ever that Palestinians posed a significant demographic threat to the Jewish majority in Israel. The growing awareness of the demographic threat, it is said, drove the government to expand eligibility for immigration under the Law of Return in order to encourage mass immigration from eastern bloc countries where assimilation was widespread.
The 1970 amendment, however, created a new set of problems for those immigrants who arrived under its expanded eligibility. Being Jewish enough to immigrate according to the standards of the government did not make one Jewish according to the officially empowered rabbinate, which controls several key components of legal affairs in Israel, primarily family law. The most publicized problem these immigrants face is their inability to marry and divorce in the State of Israel.
The 1970 amendment, however, created a new set of problems for those immigrants who arrived under its expanded eligibility. Being Jewish enough to immigrate according to the standards of the government did not make one Jewish according to the officially empowered rabbinate, which controls several key components of legal affairs in Israel, primarily family law. The most publicized problem these immigrants face is their inability to marry and divorce in the State of Israel.
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It's a reversal of the Nuremberg Laws because it's to ensure that people who are persecuted for being Jewish have a place to go. It also includes people who have completed non-Orthodox conversions and are thus 0% ethnically and also not religiously Jewish.
But that's just for aliyah. Other people can become citizens in ordinary ways. They don't have an automatic right to move to Israel, just like you don't have an automatic right to live in any other country.
The United States is not now and never has been much of an ethnostate.
Yes, many people have the right to Aliyah but cannot have a Jewish marriage or divorce in Israel because they aren't Jewish.
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I can't think of a country that wasn't originally an ethnostate. That's just a natural function of geography.
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Well that's a whole 'nother rabbit hole but this isn't the thread.
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Given how wide, extensive, and chaotic the violence was on October 7th, bodies were still being found weeks after the attack. It's very possible that this was one of the victims whose body took so long to recover that it had already begun decomposing.
Hamas very publicly murdered Arabs (Christians and Muslims alike). I'd imagine a lot of it is genuine, with many of them realizing (or having the notion reinforced) that given that they are Israelis, Hamas doesn't give a shit about them, regardless of their shared heritage/religion/etc.
Unsurprisingly, Chabad has already got you covered:
No doubt many, many civilians have died, but Hamas refuses to differentiate between civilians and fighters in their death toll. I'm also old enough to remember their miraculous ability to instantaneously determine that nearly 1000 people had died, and had managed to round up dozens of bodies for an immediate press conference, after
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Yeah I've been thinking that about the last dozen or so posts you've made here too.
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His seethe is based on how Western Jews often leverage their minority status in the western democracies to coalition build with other minority groups in order to leverage what they want over the majority. It works obnoxiously well, because of how politically divided "White People" are, in the sense that they don't have a collective political identity as well as racial. Which means the Jews organizing a solid 5% of the various minority groups in a given country is often enough to swing an election. This has led over the years to extreme pandering by the western political class to "the Jewish Lobby", who act much like any other powerful interest group. Unlike say the "Gun Lobby" or the "Farmers Lobby" however, there interests are intrinsically based around their ethnic identity AS Jews.
It makes sense when you consider the nature of any democratic system, and its rather ingenious how the Jewish minority has been able to make itself a powerful block in the coalition building necessary to keep government moving. But there are downsides, the biggest one being the political faction that the Jewish block doesn't support won't just dislike the Jews for their political position, they will dislike them as people. Because by design the political position and the ethnic identity of the Jewish diaspora in the west are intrinsically linked.
Rather ironically, this issue with Gaza has taken a sledgehammer to that, so the next few years are going to be fun. I imagine there is a shit ton of disunity in the western tribes atm.
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In Ukraine, concerted efforts were made to get women and children away from the fighting. In Gaza, concerted efforts are made to keep women and children in dangerous areas in order to raise the casualty counts and increase international pressure against Israel. In any typical war zone, women and children are not only allowed to leave, but helped to leave by any able-bodied man. In Gaza, Hamas will threaten or kill women for trying to get their babies out of the danger zone.
Hamas planned this attack. They're the ones who had weeks and months to think about how to get the women and children out of the most likely places that would be attacked. Isn't it really kind of odd that they had no plan about how to do this at all?
Everyone went "oh how could we possibly evacuate a big city in just a single day?!?" This of course is something many big cities have had to do for natural disasters like volcanoes and hurricanes, but Gaza simply can't. Okay. So they give them days and days more. Nope, barely any evacuations, and "what, you expect us to leave our homes?"
Either Gaza simply didn't expect any retaliation at all, or didn't plan for any evacuation routes and shelters, or they wanted the outcome to have high female and child casualties.
Hamas planned this attack. They're the ones who had weeks and months to think about how to get the women and children out of the most likely places that would be attacked. Isn't it really kind of odd that they had no plan about how to do this at all?
Everyone went "oh how could we possibly evacuate a big city in just a single day?!?" This of course is something many big cities have had to do for natural disasters like volcanoes and hurricanes, but Gaza simply can't. Okay. So they give them days and days more. Nope, barely any evacuations, and "what, you expect us to leave our homes?"
Either Gaza simply didn't expect any retaliation at all, or didn't plan for any evacuation routes and shelters, or they wanted the outcome to have high female and child casualties.
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Gaza can't evacuate. They can't move into Israel for obvious reasons, and the Egyptians won't let them in either. The Palestinian refugees have destablized EVERY Arab country they've moved into. Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. All three had to crack down militarily on the Palestinian refugees and in the case of Lebanon the crackdown failed and Lebanon has been a borderline failed state since then.
No Arab state is going to let them in. So they are stuck. That said however you are correct that Hamas has done what it can to insure their military infrastructure is positioned to maximize civilian deaths when its attacked.
No Arab state is going to let them in. So they are stuck. That said however you are correct that Hamas has done what it can to insure their military infrastructure is positioned to maximize civilian deaths when its attacked.
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White House Condemns Protest at Israeli Restaurant in Philadelphia
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Johnny Diaz
2023-12-04 22:59:17GMT
Excerpt:
I don't agree with the protestors at all and frankly wish they were taken out by an 18 wheeler, but they should go back and protest there every night. Fuck the government trying to infringe on first amendment rights.