Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Honestly how does one stop giving a shit about this conflict? I'm too emotionally invested and as a neet I spend all my time thinking about it. I applied for a job at Burger King so I can spend time thinking about burgers instead but I don't know if that's the optimal solution. Can some wise kiwi guide me to finding peace? I support Russia but spend too much time watching Ukrop vloggers like Davydov and it just pisses me off. Please help me. Thanks.
Why the fuck are you consoooooming YouTube garbage? Do you seriously not have any hobbies or interests you could spend time on instead? Watching YouTube isn't a hobby. It isn't even a real life. Man up!
 
There are reports that Russia has produced a Shahed-136 with a 40kg Theromobaric Warhead, a Pro-Russian said on X that the explosive power would be equivalent to that of a FAB-250 (don't know how true that is and I can't find the post in question. TOS-1A missiles have a warhead weight of 45kg according to one site but I don't know if that's in reference to the original missiles, the later upgraded missiles or the latest 10km range missile that uses a new, more powerful thermobaric mixture)
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They've supposedly had these for a while. It's just a matter of "Will they actually use them?" and "Will they work as advertised?"
 
The washington post did a long article today on the failure of the Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive of 2023. The article somewhat allows both sides (US and Ukraine) to make their respective cases.

This is a summary of part of the article that is available for free.

- The US was pushing for a focused single attack with everything Ukraine had through Robotyne to the sea of azov.
- Based on experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, the US military considered that any estimates of Ukrainian losses made by the US would likely be overestimates.
- The Ukrainians preferred a wider offensive along several points on the line.

- The US blamed the following for the failure of the operations
-- The Ukrainians didn't start the counteroffensive early enough. They should have started in April.
-- They didn't properly use smoke and mine=clearing equipment provided by NATO to launch a rapid advance.
-- They overestimated the ability of the Ukrainians to be quickly trained in advanced NATO tactics.
-- They were frustrated with the defense of Bakhmut when they thought the Ukrainians should be going all out for Crimea.
-- Jake Sullivan of the biden administration - attorney and military genius -- according to the story anticipated the difficulty of breaking through the Russian fortifications as early as February 2023. He then talked to the defense secretary and both offered the wise advise that "Ukraine, to be successful, needed to fight in a different way".
-- The US felt that they had provided all the war material Ukraine needed to break through the Russian lines and reach the sea of Azov. "they received about two dozen Mine Clearing Line Charge launchers (MCLCs), more than 40 mine rollers and excavators, 1,000 Bangalore torpedoes, and more than 80,000 smoke grenades."



- Ukraine said:

-- The wargaming used by the US to design the offensive didn't work because of the US lack of experience in large conventional warfare and in particular conventional warfare in which a particular side does not have total air superiority. The expectations of the planning didn't at all match the reality of the battlefield.
-- The Ukrainians expected that a Ukrainian attack all along the front in 2023 would cause problems among Russian's conscript troops. They were uneasy about launching a concentrated attack at a single point.
-- The Ukrainians complained that alot of the vehicles given to them had come out of storage with problems. Many vehicles lacked radios. Other vehicles arrived with mechanical problems in the tracks.
 
They created a monster with Zelensky and he's far too addicted to the constant attention and praise to walk away voluntarily. They're going to have to kill him and make it look like Russia did it (even though Russia could've assassinated him at any point in the past two years).
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. Z-man is going to end up like Diem

 
-- They overestimated the ability of the Ukrainians to be quickly trained in advanced NATO tactics.
"Expect the aircraft to handle the war for you, then just occupy everything" is not "advanced tactics", it's idiocy.
- Based on experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, the US military considered that any estimates of Ukrainian losses made by the US would likely be overestimates.
This rationale likely went through a dozen levels of Pentagon officials and none questioned how retarded this comparison is
They're chosen for their adherence to liberal ideology, and believed the "mongolic horde" propaganda they had been raised with, and that photos of the failing Russian state in the 90s were still representative of the country. They believed that when their military engineers said "this vehicle is superior to the Russian counterpart" it meant "this vehicle cannot be defeated by Russians" when actually it just meant "it has a handful of advantages in a one-on-one fight", a situation which obviously is never the case in a real war. I'm sure one on one the Abrams will defeat the T-72 easily, but in reality there are twenty T-72s facing ten Abrams, five of which are in the garage for some more endless maintenance, three got stuck in mud twenty kilometres back and are waiting to be towed out by the dedicated recovery machine, and the last two are stuck on the wrong side of a bridge they're too heavy to cross.
Westerners are stupid, don't overestimate them. "Why did they do something retarded"? It's because that's what retards do.
 
-- The Ukrainians complained that alot of the vehicles given to them had come out of storage with problems. Many vehicles lacked radios. Other vehicles arrived with mechanical problems in the tracks.

Is this France in 1940?

I'm sure one on one the Abrams will defeat the T-72 easily, but in reality there are twenty T-72s facing ten Abrams

More like one Abrams facing a $1500 quadcopter that nobody noticed that's sighting in a 152mm Giatsint-S that's 15 km away.
 
More and more of the NAFOniggers are leaving.
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Assuming this is real, did the NAFO cringe cause the cancer or did the cancer cause the NAFO cringe?
 
"I will not vote for any aid until we secure our own border. Reform asylum, reform parole... I'm not helping Ukraine until we help ourselves." - Senator Lindsey Graham, Dec 4, 2023.

It's officially over now.


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Wow, this guy is one of the most russophobic retards out there, if he says shit like that then it really is over.
 
More and more of the NAFOniggers are leaving.
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Assuming this is real, did the NAFO cringe cause the cancer or did the cancer cause the NAFO cringe?
Nah, NAFO brains tend to be around that size naturally. His doctor was just confused, he normally only MRIs humans.
 
The only thing the US and NATO will be able to say is that Ukraine was just too corrupt and none of the eqpt or good troops made it where it was supposed to go. These clowns aren't just going to be sold out they're going to be blamed for it too.

They were warned all of this would happen.
No, they'll blame Trump, defeatists, and pro-Russian stooges if Ukraine loses.
 
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Wow, this guy is one of the most russophobic retards out there, if he says shit like that then it really is over.

The republicans in the house of representatives refuse to pass any Ukraine aid except in exchange for a large set of concessions from the democrats on issues like immigration law, Lindsey Graham knows that passing Ukraine aid without those concessions will be impossible. So rather than demanding aid for Ukraine by attacking republicans in the house of representatives, he is demanding that the democrats in the senate give whatever concessions the other republicans want and attacking the democrats for not making the concessions. He is still absolutely on the side of more aid for Ukraine. He is just being very tactical about how he works to get more aid for Ukraine.

For people like me, it sets up a win-win situation in US politics. If the negotiations collapse and there is no aid for Ukraine, that is a win in that hopefully the war in Ukraine will start to end.

If the negotiations are successful and various US laws are changed on matters like political Asylum and parole, its an even bigger win than the war ending in Ukraine quickly. Giving Ukraine yet more aid will not change the outcome of the war at this point, but rather only extend the fighting.
 
"I will not vote for any aid until we secure our own border. Reform asylum, reform parole... I'm not helping Ukraine until we help ourselves." - Senator Lindsey Graham, Dec 4, 2023.

It's officially over now.


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He knows it's over and is angling to get republicans/trump blamed when it happens. He did the same shit last year to try to spoil the midterms. There is no slimier toad in the swamp.
 
-- The wargaming used by the US to design the offensive didn't work because of the US lack of experience in large conventional warfare and in particular conventional warfare in which a particular side does not have total air superiority. The expectations of the planning didn't at all match the reality of the battlefield.
This should go without saying. The Ukrainians at no point had air superiority.

He knows it's over and is angling to get republicans/trump blamed when it happens. He did the same shit last year to try to spoil the midterms. There is no slimier toad in the swamp.
Ahem*...McConnell, Romney, Schumer, Durbin, Biden, Pelosi...do I need to name more? I'm not saying Graham isn't among this crowd, but he is far from the slimiest.
 
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