Megathread Jesse Singal Derangement Syndrome - jsingal69 vs TroonWorld

So they are part of the crowd telling the emperor his new clothes look great, cos they're scared of what might happen if they don't. In other words; they're hypocrites.

This is how a tiny minority of nutters has managed to gain so much power in the first place. Everyone give them an inch and they proceeded to take a mile. It's not like a bunch of politicians all of a sudden forgot what a woman was. They were just scared of what would happen if their definition wasn't the one currently expected to be heard in "polite society".

Are you unable to take them seriously unless they say that trannies are demons and pedophiles like Null does on his podcast? Even he uses the trannies' preferred pronouns sometimes. It's not a hill worth dying on.
 
Are you unable to take them seriously unless they say that trannies are demons and pedophiles like Null does on his podcast? Even he uses the trannies' preferred pronouns sometimes. It's not a hill worth dying on.
When male rapists are being referred to as "she" - and sometimes their victims are forced to refer to them that way in court - then it absolutely is a hill worth dying on.

I don't take people seriously who think one thing and say another, no, especially when it's only done to further their own careers.
 
I don't take people seriously who think one thing and say another, no, especially when it's only done to further their own careers.
They're not activists, they're journalists who both--by their own admission--feel forced onto this beat.

Personally, I think they're right to keep their powder dry so that WHEN, not if, the cultural pendulum swings back a bit, they're not on record as having gone into full meltdown mode and let the spaghetti fall out of their pockets over something as stupid as pronouns.

My most excellent nigga, the last episode and Jesse's last article were about someone who is a creepy stalker. He could reeeeeee and be like "Shut it down!" but instead he chose to lay out the facts very clearly and cleanly.

Professionalism.
 
I like them enough but they say a lot of factually wrong shit, so drawing the line at "respects pronouns" seems retarded to me. It's not their worst sin.

Playing the pronouns game is smart in their position. It's a silly little curtsy they do to get their point accross and protect themselves and their credibility. You can't get mad at someone who spent month deconstructing insane troon retoric just because they use "correct" pronouns. They always let your know who people trully are. They just don't want to be painted as rabbid haters consumed by some kind of anti-trans fatwa.
 
The guy has the thinnest spine, but I think Herzog is arguably even worse, cos she clearly doesn't buy into any troon bullshit, yet she STILL respects the pronouns of nutters like Andrea James.
It's off and on with Katie. Sometimes she jokes around and has fun with the crazier subjects' pronouns, other times she respects them. Seems to depend how 'respectable' the person in question is, so typical oversocialized woman logic I'd say ("Will people still like me if I disrespect this person's pronouns?")
 
Reviving the tiresome pronouns thing because i am autistic, on the latest BarPod Katie religiously refers to a troon as she, but slips during the introduction and uses him. She does not correct herself, and Jesse says nothing. Also Jesse admits to lurking on the Farms. Hi Jesse!
 
Reviving the tiresome pronouns thing because i am autistic, on the latest BarPod Katie religiously refers to a troon as she, but slips during the introduction and uses him. She does not correct herself, and Jesse says nothing. Also Jesse admits to lurking on the Farms. Hi Jesse!
They both defended the farm, something about it being not as bad as people say during the Keffal thing. Katie said it's a great place to read on people you don't like and invited her audience to do so.

Thousands of people joined their patreon thanks to the farm.

At this rate it's fair to assume they both have had accounts for a couple of years.
 
Reviving the tiresome pronouns thing because i am autistic, on the latest BarPod Katie religiously refers to a troon as she, but slips during the introduction and uses him. She does not correct herself, and Jesse says nothing. Also Jesse admits to lurking on the Farms. Hi Jesse!

Sometimes Katie respects pronouns as a joke, like when she was talking about someone who used "fae" as a pronoun a few months ago. Her smirking was almost audible in that one. Jesse, being the bigger faggot of the two, miscorrects her subconscious corrections a lot, though she's gotten better at playing along with the freaks' delusions in recent days and has thereby marginally lessened her chances of having something horrible happen to her if she goes to Seattle proper for some fresh bread and non-cheddar cheese (so long as she avoids any public restrooms).
 
They both defended the farm, something about it being not as bad as people say during the Keffal thing.

True, but he has been making little whiny noises whenever Katie gleefully talks about this place, as if she admitted to being an adult baby. It was a pleasant surprise to hear him refer to it normally again.

At this rate it's fair to assume they both have had accounts for a couple of years

He gets to be a giga Chad and misgender in peace here, I guess.
 
Can we press pause on the pronounjerk to reflect on the fact that in the most recent episode Trace quite literally wrote a dissertation about the NaNoWriMo drama on behalf of the hosts -- 350 pages including appendices?! This furry faggot is a full-time law student and runs his own Substack, too,

Meanwhile, Katie -- who is pulling in low/mid six figures to podcast for an hour a week -- can't take 10 seconds out of her day to Google how to pronounce Taoiseach, internecine, Qatar, or expert.
 
Can we press pause on the pronounjerk to reflect on the fact that in the most recent episode Trace quite literally wrote a dissertation about the NaNoWriMo drama on behalf of the hosts -- 350 pages including appendices?! This furry faggot is a full-time law student and runs his own Substack, too,

Meanwhile, Katie -- who is pulling in low/mid six figures to podcast for an hour a week -- can't take 10 seconds out of her day to Google how to pronounce Taoiseach, internecine, Qatar, or expert.
It's good to be the king.
 
Can we press pause on the pronounjerk to reflect on the fact that in the most recent episode Trace quite literally wrote a dissertation about the NaNoWriMo drama on behalf of the hosts -- 350 pages including appendices?! This furry faggot is a full-time law student and runs his own Substack, too,

Meanwhile, Katie -- who is pulling in low/mid six figures to podcast for an hour a week -- can't take 10 seconds out of her day to Google how to pronounce Taoiseach, internecine, Qatar, or expert.
Katie has some sort of dyslexia or something. She pronounces every single proper noun wrong. Every single time. It's very annoying.
 
Katie has some sort of dyslexia or something. She pronounces every single proper noun wrong. Every single time. It's very annoying.
She grew up in a progressive college town in the 80s, so my guess is she learnt to read via whole word learning - she would have been in one of the first cohorts for it. Those kids never learnt to sound words out, just to guess it instead, and she’s also too lazy to look up and practise pronunciations in advance. Jesse is more neurotic and pedantic, so he makes the effort. Agree, it is quite irritating and sloppy, and makes her sound like an idiot.
 
She grew up in a progressive college town in the 80s, so my guess is she learnt to read via whole word learning - she would have been in one of the first cohorts for it. Those kids never learnt to sound words out, just to guess it instead, and she’s also too lazy to look up and practise pronunciations in advance. Jesse is more neurotic and pedantic, so he makes the effort. Agree, it is quite irritating and sloppy, and makes her sound like an idiot.
I doubt it, I also grew up in a progressive college town and I learned how to read normally. Katie’s just a pro-level troll.

That said, I do think a lot of people who are terminally online struggle with pronunciation because they read words far more often than they speak them, and they develop their own pronunciations in their head without another human being around to correct them. Felix Biedermann of Chapo Trap House has this same issue.
 
IIRC, it's not uncommon for well read people to not know how to pronounce words that are rarely heard in real life and pronounced somewhat differently from how you might assume. I applaud Katie if she's flooding the zone so nobody knows which words she really doesn't know how to pronounce.
 
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