Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

You remind me of a previous poster who was whining about how they were losing their mind about this conflict.

You chose the right side.
Relax.
Putin's got this.
Rest assured that no amount of NAFO trannysperging can stop Ukrainian soldiers being turned into hamburger.
I truly, truly want to believe that you are right. I'm just needlessly obsessed with this conflict. It lives in my mind rent free. There's just that little sliver of doubt that Russia hasn't got this that's like a thorn in my brain. I've been like this since young where something nasty just latches on to my mind and doesn't let go. It's really hard to let go.
 
So it's been a month or so of the Russian winter counter-counter-offensive and they've already shown up Ukraine's attempt earlier this year. So much for muh Ukrainian militiary supremacy and muh NATO equipment & training. The political tide is turning on Zelensky, the country is showing rifts internally, and they aren't having an easy time with manpower or equipment.
The future is not looking bright for the Ukraine.
Time to place your bets on how long they have left until THD


can you elaborate? I remember Poland being one of the Chud eastern Euro countries a few years, so this is sad news.

The new leader is likely to be Donald Tusk. He is basically a Merkel as a younger man, and ruled the EU from 2014 to 19. He is as close to an Obama as you can get in Europe.

His chief enemy is Orbán, and he hates nationalism with the passion of a million flaming faggots.

I would likely rather have Biden ruling over me, at least the senile idiot is a senile idiot. Poland is about to be blacked hard, unless a miracle occurs.

Pray for Poland.
 
At this point I am entirely convinced that there was no other cunning plan besides trying to once again invoke righteous indignation. West no longer cares about long game and instead tries to moral police on the level of entire countries. All of it is deeply idealistic not pragmatic.
It's a religious crusade, but instead of being blessed by the Pope it's been condoned by bankers
 
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Throughout this conflict, I keep wondering why do westoid heads keeps releasing these titbits that time and time again damn their side. I am talking about all that dehumanization of Russians and sensitive info like Minsk accords being just a game of pretend.
Have your media do it, why give our side the ammo against your case?
Pure retardation.

“Looks like I got captured”

source:2ch, might be an old clip
uploading videos is ass at the time of this post
 
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Is Europe still dependent on Russian gas for heating? Last winter there were talks of massive steps to reduce energy consumption but I don't think nothing ever came of it, and there wasn't a huge death count from the cold
 
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Is Europe still dependent on Russian gas for heating? Last winter there were talks of massive steps to reduce energy consumption but I don't think nothing ever came of it, and there wasn't a huge death count from the cold
Last year was a very mild winter, and they were able to fill their storage tanks ahead of time. Fortunately this year looks like a colder winter, and apparently half their reactors are down, so electricity costs are already ridiculous.
There aren’t going to be deaths from cold either way. Just a whole lot of impoverished middle class and governments falling further into debt to pay for yank LNG. It’s crushing the German industry though, they’re on the fast track to losing their developed country status.
 
Is Europe still dependent on Russian gas for heating? Last winter there were talks of massive steps to reduce energy consumption but I don't think nothing ever came of it, and there wasn't a huge death count from the cold

Supplies of Russian liquefied gas to Europe is again breaking all records!

Exports of Russian liquefied gas to Europe in November broke the previous record and amounted to 1.75 million tons, versus 1.737 million tons in December 2022.

Thus, a new “military winter” and a new absolute record for Russian LNG supplies to Europe. This is what European politicians have achieved?

Now they are buying gas at exorbitant prices to replace the cheap gas that came through the Nordstreams.

And it is very likely that this November record, taking into account NOVATEK’s plans to commission the first stage of its new Arctic LNG 2 project by the end of the year, will also be broken very quickly.

Probably already in December.

I think the answer is yes.
 
Is Europe still dependent on Russian gas for heating? Last winter there were talks of massive steps to reduce energy consumption but I don't think nothing ever came of it, and there wasn't a huge death count from the cold

It has been a mild winter. But the cost of energy and fuel rising is very bad news for European economy. Electricity and anything that needs cars to move around becomes more expensive, and manufacture needs all the above.


Hungary is getting gas via Bulgaria and Serbia, so I'm not worried.

But now, you retarded mongoloid steppe nomad, why isn't Europe using Amerimutt LNG or Nuclear?

Well, Nuclear would be good, though the fuel from that also mostly comes from Russia. LNG is just not economically viable as it is very expensive, as it is more processed than Russkie ground farts.

So nuclear has been gutted by Greens for most of Europe, and the Mutt shart gas is not only pricier, but also needs new processing infrastructure to be built for it. And that's besides the fact that its harder to transport unless Biden builds a transatlantic BBC Stream pipeline.

So Europe has to go for coal if the winter gets too cold.

Russia, China and Europe together would be enough to decidedly curb the US Empire. They can't afford the three to work together. Europe has great precise manufacturing, Russia has near unlimited resources and China near unlimited workforce, that's a triple trouble combo.
 
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Throughout this conflict, I keep wondering why do westoid heads keeps releasing these titbits that time and time again damn their side. I am talking about all that dehumanization of Russians and sensitive info like Minsk accords being just a game of pretend.
Have your media do it, why give our side the ammo against your case?
Pure retardation.



source:2ch, might be an old clip
uploading videos is ass at the time of this post

Our elites believe they will never be held to account, nor that there will be any consequences for their actions.
 
At this point I am entirely convinced that there was no other cunning plan besides trying to once again invoke righteous indignation. West no longer cares about long game and instead tries to moral police on the level of entire countries. All of it is deeply idealistic not pragmatic.

America is run by people who don't understand that a number on a ledger isn't the same as mountains full of coal and iron.

Throughout this conflict, I keep wondering why do westoid heads keeps releasing these titbits that time and time again damn their side. I am talking about all that dehumanization of Russians and sensitive info like Minsk accords being just a game of pretend.

I wasn't joking about the Trump-Russia hysteria. Among half the country, there is now a deep, irrational, visceral hatred of Russia. Sure, it turned out after all that Russia didn't steal the 2016 election from Hillary, but that's not how the human animal works. After two straight years of being propagandized to hate Russia and all things Russia, that hate doesn't just turn off when you find out the original story was a lie. Your average American liberal cheers statements like this.

It has been a mild winter. But the cost of energy and fuel rising is very bad news for European economy.

Europeans just need to have zero kids and import infinite Somalis. That solves all economic problems.
 
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- The US was pushing for a focused single attack with everything Ukraine had through Robotyne to the sea of azov.
So now we can confirm that it was the US/NATO who orchestrated the disastrous Robotyne offensive. Where they lost half their bradleys and made literally zero progress... Until the hohol generals just said "fuck it, this doesnt work" then, suddenly, started to move a little bit.
- The US blamed the following for the failure of the operations
-- The Ukrainians didn't start the counteroffensive early enough. They should have started in April.
-- They didn't properly use smoke and mine=clearing equipment provided by NATO to launch a rapid advance.
-- They overestimated the ability of the Ukrainians to be quickly trained in advanced NATO tactics.
-- They were frustrated with the defense of Bakhmut when they thought the Ukrainians should be going all out for Crimea.
-- Jake Sullivan of the biden administration - attorney and military genius -- according to the story anticipated the difficulty of breaking through the Russian fortifications as early as February 2023. He then talked to the defense secretary and both offered the wise advise that "Ukraine, to be successful, needed to fight in a different way".
-- The US felt that they had provided all the war material Ukraine needed to break through the Russian lines and reach the sea of Azov. "they received about two dozen Mine Clearing Line Charge launchers (MCLCs), more than 40 mine rollers and excavators, 1,000 Bangalore torpedoes, and more than 80,000 smoke grenades."
Alternate title: NATO releases new advanced Cope Doctrine
>They didn't properly use smoke and mine=clearing equipment provided by NATO to launch a rapid advance.
:story: Did the mutts really believe that they could just drive across the minefields unmolested? Did they forget the first few months where they were shitting on Russia for losing muh 6000000000000000 tanks per day driving on roads in columns, then thought that Ukraine could do it through crater-ridden fields under constant artillery fire?
You only need to see 1 drone video of tanks driving across fields to see how suicidal it is. You are in plain view the entire time.
Btw Remember the article about how Ukraine was told to just "drive around" mines? - Advanced NATO Tactics
also "didn't properly use smoke"
>fire smoke grenade
>can still be easily seen by drone
>get bombed

alternatively:
>shroud yourself smoke
>accidentally drive off 2m wide cleared path into mines because you can't see
>explode

Do they think smoke is an invisibility cloak? +10 conceal bonus to defence?

>they received about two dozen Mine Clearing Line Charge launchers (MCLCs), more than 40 mine rollers and excavators, 1,000 Bangalore torpedoes, and more than 80,000 smoke grenades.
Niggers are seriously bragging about those pathetic numbers. "About two dozen". "1000". :story:
It's like when they brag about getting another 8000 shells from somewhere. To put it into perspective hundreds of millions of shells were fired across the 4 years of WW1. 8k probably couldn't cover a single day.
And anyway, If their epik advanced wunderwaffe tanks are getting shat on by anti-tank weapons, drones and artillery, what chance do "more than 40" fucking bulldozers have? There's miles and miles of mines they have to get past, all under constant surveilance, and they think that a bunch of shit they can't repair or replace is gonna (literally) roll over to Sevastopol? Complete lunacy.
I don't remember seeing anything about those "MCLCs" in use, so maybe the Ukrops just cba to use them. Or maybe they are just yet another shite and useless piece of equipment?

It will never not amuse me the pure naivety of these fools to watch the initial Russian offensive, see the losses and difficulty involved, then turn around and think "naw its because dey b dum orkZ. we can do it easily".
They should be shitting themselves at the prospect of modern war against an enemy that isn't a sandnigger insurgency, the realization the idea that you can win a war with 1:10000000 casualties purely with """wunderwaffe""" is stupid, and knowledge that their industry is incapable of keeping up with an extended war.
And what with the lack of conscription or mandatory military service, they probably couldn't afford to fight their faggot "advanced tactics" war for long after their regulars run out (see: WW1 & late 1700s)

he hates nationalism
Man that fucking sucks. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
 
This speaks mostly to the ignorance of General Milley and nearly all the other people involved in Ukraine policy in the United States. They blindly accepted their own propaganda and then created bad policies based on their propaganda.

They really believed that Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk were full of Zelensky supporters who were willing to take up partisan warfare. That they had the numbers and the power to launch a full scale insurrection behind the Russian lines.

Many of the more ignorant people driving these policies were actually expecting this insurrection. One can still find zones of "Ukrainian Partisan Warfare" on the maps produced by the Institute for the Study of War. Donetsk City is according to the map is a center of partisan warfare against the Russians.

The question that the Washington Post should have asked about the Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive of 2023 was if its goals were even rational. Was it rational for the US and Ukraine to set the goal of the war to be the compete restoration of the 1991 borders.
 
8000 shells from somewhere. To put it into perspective hundreds
To put it in perspective, Russia fires 20 000 shells per day. That means they either make 20 000 per day or more to be able to sustain this. Finding 8000 shells is nothing.

Speaking of which, US is bragging about finding 5000 shells for Ukraine's best artilery, and 75 000 in general. So, roughly 4 days of Russian production.
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Not sure it's been spoken about much but I've been snooping around Ukrainian Youtube channels and telegram chats and the most shocking thing is the forced mobilisation that's happening there. It's if nothing else the biggest indicator to me that something's not too good for them right now. People inform each other about where commissars have been spotted on the streets handing out summons or outright grabbing dudes and stuffing them into vans to send off to the front. It shows that whatever manpower measures they have in Ukraine it's absolutely unsustainable. While I don't see anything serious happening on the front in the near future I strongly suspect that with time, maybe later next year, we will start to see manpower resources really drying out for Ukraine. I really hate watching the war but this gives me hope that either the ordinary Ukrainian people will wake up and start holding their government accountable or that their troop situation will worsen enough that the Russians can achieve something. It's a matter of time.
 
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