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[FinnSven]

And also, no wonder gynos have to now find creative ways to get the Troons to see “Trans experienced” gynos.

An actual vagina isn’t a healing wound, so of course gyno specialists are going to have to fall back on their standard medical training when faced with a neo-“vagina”.

Maybe this is just another way in which Troons are extreme chauvinists?
They think that periods are an indicator that vaginas haven’t healed.

 

[Oxyjen]

ender affirmation surgery for men is voluntarily signing up to be kicked in the balls three times a day. Forever.

I take it back, maybe these doctors are on to something.

 

[FinnSven]

I take it back, maybe these doctors are on to something.

Perhaps we should raise money for the farms by running a budget gender affirmation surgery?

Simply come to our builders’s hut three times a day for a hoof in the knackers.

The prices can vary depending on the footwear used.
Low end ballet shoes and dancing pumps.
High end steel toecap doc martins and welder boots.

 

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Here's the dilation schedule from one doctor, Dr Chettawut.

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Note that a) dilation is pretty much a second job. OK he's probably covering his back so that if a tranny comes back with any problems, or should that be when the tranny comes back with the first of what will be many problems, he can point to that impossible schedule and say "your fault for not dilating enough", and b) the green lump of plastic is the starter one and shouldn't be needed after the first two months. I wish I didn't know stuff like this, but if I do then surely so do all the post-op trannies, and they won't be impressed that he can only get the green one in and not even all the way.

And if the inverted cock doesn't work, and the gut lining mixed with zombie flesh doesn't work, what other random bits of flesh can they use to line man-cave number three? I wonder if anyone's tried using arm flesh in an inverted rot-dog sort of way. Having the skeletal arm remnant scar might be Kevin's best chance of passing, at least as an unfortunately manly FTM.

This is something I could only imagine in a fever-induced nightmare.

1. For the first week, you need a random nurse to shove a dilater into you and tell you how to do it.
2. You need to use an excessive amount of lubrication otherwise you will tear your surgery site apart at the seams when you're shoving a plastic tube into it.
3. Imagine having a wound in your belly button and shoving your finger in there while actively trying to push it in deeper the whole time. Not only is that wholly unpleasant, you must do so for extended periods of time multiple times a week.
4. Your first dilating involves the nurse shoving the tube as far as they can until it rams into the back of your surgical cavity.
5. Upon establishing said back of surgical cavity, you must hold it there for 30 minutes.
6. When the nurse returns, they do it again but for 40 minutes this time.
7. The nurse then returns again and does it again for 45 minutes.
8. This time, they at least have the decency to remove the catheter you have inserted from the area they are shoving a plastic tube into.
9. The nurse then does it again for 60 minutes.
10. Then again for 75.
11. Then 90.
12. Now it's two hours.
13. It's your turn, and now you get to do it for 150 minutes.
14. You cannot just shove it in and forget, you must hold position and continue applying pressure for the entire two and a half hours. It would be painful just to push against your arm for that long. But you must do this for two hours on a spot where you just had major surgical damage.
15. Two and a half hours is now the standard. The doctor suggested splitting this into three 50 minute sessions.
16. Once again, you cannot be doing anything else but dilate while dilating. Constant pressure must be applied, and the doctor gives advice to prevent you from shaking or applying less pressure over the entire two and a half hours. Even just watching TV would be too difficult if you hope to maintain pressure.
17. "Dilating is a lifetime." Imagine doing this just once a week. The doctor expects you to do this for seven and a half hours a week. Most gym bros hardly exercise for seven and a half hours a week unless they're built like gorillas.
18. Lastly, the people who undergo this entirely elective surgery either don't bother looking up this eldritch horror story of a routine or do and decide it's worth it.

Compare these steps to the process involved in not going through this surgery:

1. Be happy you are not one of these people.

 

[CoolFool]

Some of those dilator descriptions may sound weird because they are for actual women. Actual women also use dilators, but my understanding is that those are almost always temporary, you don't do it for "a lifetime". The duration is also shorter (10-20 minutes a day VS 3 hours for troons). Some women have to use them for mental reasons; I am too lazy to look up the term right now, but basically there is this condition where women are too nervous or traumatized from past experiences, so they end up activating their pelvic floor muscles too much, which makes sex impossible or painful. The dilators helps them learn to relax their pelvic floor.

There are other reasons, such as menopause and even some genetic conditions where the vagina wasn't formed right, but even then, it's still an actual vagina, not a stinkditch. Troons need to dilate stop their AmHole from healing and closing up, while actual women use them to help relax muscle spasms. This is why I find it funny when some troons say "CIS WOMEN DILATE TOO!", it's pure cope.

 

[Oxyjen]

Some of those dilator descriptions may sound weird because they are for actual women. Actual women also use dilators, but my understanding is that those are almost always temporary, you don't do it for "a lifetime". The duration is also shorter (10-20 minutes a day VS 3 hours for troons). Some women have to use them for mental reasons; I am too lazy to look up the term right now, but basically there is this condition where women are too nervous or traumatized from past experiences, so they end up activating their pelvic floor muscles too much, which makes sex impossible or painful. The dilators helps them learn to relax their pelvic floor.

Vaginismus. As you say it’s where the muscles tighten up for psychological reasons, so the dilator is basically a non-threatening, medical grade dildo to practice and feel more ok with penetration.
It’s kind of rare and nothing like the SRS use case obviously.

 

[caonima]

I'm sure it's an uncomfortable experience for real woman who have to use dilators for medical reasons, but I'm glad it's so much worse for troons.

 

[Alpaca Autopsy Expert]

As everyone has already stated, you’re basically prying open a healing site every time you jam a dilator into an amhole.

Imagine shoving a rod into your colostomy bag site every day, and then twirling that rod around for 30 minutes.

Sounds like torture. Maybe the Geneva convention should look into it.

 

[CoolFool]

1. For the first week, you need a random nurse to shove a dilater into you and tell you how to do it.
2. You need to use an excessive amount of lubrication otherwise you will tear your surgery site apart at the seams when you're shoving a plastic tube into it.
3. Imagine having a wound in your belly button and shoving your finger in there while actively trying to push it in deeper the whole time. Not only is that wholly unpleasant, you must do so for extended periods of time multiple times a week.
4. Your first dilating involves the nurse shoving the tube as far as they can until it rams into the back of your surgical cavity.
5. Upon establishing said back of surgical cavity, you must hold it there for 30 minutes.
6. When the nurse returns, they do it again but for 40 minutes this time.
7. The nurse then returns again and does it again for 45 minutes.
8. This time, they at least have the decency to remove the catheter you have inserted from the area they are shoving a plastic tube into.
9. The nurse then does it again for 60 minutes.
10. Then again for 75.
11. Then 90.
12. Now it's two hours.
13. It's your turn, and now you get to do it for 150 minutes.
14. You cannot just shove it in and forget, you must hold position and continue applying pressure for the entire two and a half hours. It would be painful just to push against your arm for that long. But you must do this for two hours on a spot where you just had major surgical damage.
15. Two and a half hours is now the standard. The doctor suggested splitting this into three 50 minute sessions.
16. Once again, you cannot be doing anything else but dilate while dilating. Constant pressure must be applied, and the doctor gives advice to prevent you from shaking or applying less pressure over the entire two and a half hours. Even just watching TV would be too difficult if you hope to maintain pressure.
17. "Dilating is a lifetime." Imagine doing this just once a week. The doctor expects you to do this for seven and a half hours a week. Even gym bros built like gorillas don't exercise for seven and a half hours a week.
18. Lastly, the people who undergo this entirely elective surgery either don't bother looking up this eldritch horror story of a routine or do and decide it's worth it.

Now imagine how, even after enduring everything you listed above, you still can't use your AmHole like a real vagina. I've read too many stories from troons about how even after all this insane dilating, they can't have sex like real women. At best, you can only tolerate it being pounded for a few minutes, and you can't go too hard or you'll risk being injured. So all that money and time keeping the wound open was for nothing.

 

[Alpaca Autopsy Expert]

I’m going to assume it’s mostly girldicks pounding amholes; many of those dicks are probably shrunken/semi-flaccid by estrogen use too. So If the troons can’t tolerate that inside their neovages, they really are screwed.
Figuratively, not literally.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

This is something I could only imagine in a fever-induced nightmare.

Yes, but it's worth it so that you can have under-whelming penetrative "sex" with some willing wedge-penised troon (because even proper chasers don't want to fuck amholes) in an awkward position (since wound sites don't have the elasticity of a vagina, or asshole for that matter), which has been described as feeling as a "deep belly button"* by penetrative partners.

* Might or might not include hair

 

[Positron]

1. “Do no harm”

They'll literally kill themselves if you don't mangle their dicks. Checkmate, Hippocrates!

 

[AMHOLIO]

Gender affirmation surgery for men is voluntarily signing up to be kicked in the balls three times a day. Forever.

Let's say you have a consistent sleep schedule of 8 hours a day.
16 hours awake • 365 = 5,840 waking hours a year, 11,680 for two years. So say you dilate 3 hours a day for 2 years. 3 hours times 730 days is 2190. 2190/11680 = 0.1875.

You are spending 18.75%, a little less than 1/5th, of your fucking waking life dilating with that schedule. No wonder western troon scientists decided to reduce that down.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Even dilation can't stop wound healing in many cases. There are trannies who talk about how it gets harder & harder to dilate even if they stick to the shedule. Either the shedule isn't right, the trannies are lying and don't dilate like they should or the wound heals faster than expected (or all 3).

 

[AMHOLIO]

So all that money and time keeping the wound open was for nothing.

I think the few who are theoretically hapoy are the type who got classic nullification and never have to see their penis again if their dysphoria is that bad, and perhaps people like Phil who just got their balls removed if they were extremely sexual and now aren't hypersexual and can fucking think clearer. Those are the only long term winners, and even the first is a stretch. Castrated men with high sex drive and low impulse control are probably the biggest winners of all the troon surgeries.

 

[Flamin Park]

And if the inverted cock doesn't work, and the gut lining mixed with zombie flesh doesn't work, what other random bits of flesh can they use to line man-cave number three? I wonder if anyone's tried using arm flesh in an inverted rot-dog sort of way. Having the skeletal arm remnant scar might be Kevin's best chance of passing, at least as an unfortunately manly FTM.

Pussy not been fucked? Dilator won't go in? Pay your money, step right up and TAKE A SPIN ON

 

[Pampered Degenerate]

16 hours awake • 365 = 5,840 waking hours a year, 11,680 for two years. So say you dilate 3 hours a day for 2 years. 3 hours times 730 days is 2190. 2190/11680 = 0.1875.

Or just 3/16 hours.

 

[stupid frog]

Here's the dilation schedule from one doctor, Dr Chettawut.

View attachment 5543347

Note that a) dilation is pretty much a second job. OK he's probably covering his back so that if a tranny comes back with any problems, or should that be when the tranny comes back with the first of what will be many problems, he can point to that impossible schedule and say "your fault for not dilating enough", and b) the green lump of plastic is the starter one and shouldn't be needed after the first two months. I wish I didn't know stuff like this, but if I do then surely so do all the post-op trannies, and they won't be impressed that he can only get the green one in and not even all the way.

And if the inverted cock doesn't work, and the gut lining mixed with zombie flesh doesn't work, what other random bits of flesh can they use to line man-cave number three? I wonder if anyone's tried using arm flesh in an inverted rot-dog sort of way. Having the skeletal arm remnant scar might be Kevin's best chance of passing, at least as an unfortunately manly FTM.

Here is the one I was referencing, which seems to be written to actual women.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/24971-vaginal-dilators#overview

How long should you keep a vaginal dilator in?​

You should keep a vaginal dilator in for about 10 to 15 minutes each time. How often per week you use a dilator depends on the underlying condition and your provider’s recommendation. Some people find relief after several weeks, while others continue using a dilator for several months.​

Clearly these "women" should be following the same guidelines as "cissys"?
How strange, that even taking something created to help women and making it your fetish, men are STILL told to use it completely different.

Kevin should look in to anal dilation, which is apparently a thing that exists. I did not dare click whatever the fuck that was leading to.

 

[Swiss46]

which has been described as feeling as a "deep belly button"* by penetrative partners

What a horrible thought that some people actually fuck open wounds and then have the urge to describe it for others.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Hey, you know what you don't need any surgery to take a penis in, normally heals on its own if damaged and is actually (hypothetically) pleasurable to men because of some MALE-ONLY stuff nearby? And has a long historical existence in human society that changes in acceptability and currently a lot of people in the West don't really give a shit about?

But ugh, so manly queer, gross. No thanks, I'm not a fag, I'm a dyke slut. Can't wait to get fucked in my vag by some girldick. (And no, no girldick in my butt, that's too close to being a gay dude no matter how much porn I can watch of bimbos doing it too. I won't be able to stop thinking about my insecurity of if I'm gay. Girldick in my mouth is fine though.)