Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Susanna]

I've heard certain products can kill male libido permanently so definitely research these before you do them

That's probably dutasteride. Troons love it because it's like a hundred times stronger than finasteride, but as far as I know there's no indication it's actually better at preventing hair loss than finasteride. There's also no reason for troons to take it, since it only blocks the one type of testosterone and they'd want to block them all, but whatever. FWIW my husband takes finasteride and his libido is fine. Elon Musk takes it, and he has literally a dozen children.

Absolutely I think that any man with the genetics for balding should take finasteride to prevent it, and if they're already balding they should also get microneedling and minoxidil to try and get the hair back. But of course preventing the problem in the first place is the best option.

 

[quackrock]

If I were your wife/gf, I'd ask you to consider getting started on finasteride.

From what I've read finasteride can also have nasty and sometimes permanent side effects. Talk to your doctor and do your research. Don't make potentially life-altering medical decision based on the dating preferences of anons.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I would commit to eating better, making sure you're not deficient in any nutrients (being low in iron can cause hair loss, for example), exercise, and then try microneedling/laser hair therapy.

If you're a dude, and you engage in that microneedling shit, your issue is not balding, but insecurity and fear of growing old.
Being fit and eating well do not count, as those provide measurable benefits to your body and a better quality of life.
Hair doesn't provide shit. I only had it long when in highschool, after that, off with it, aerodynamics and ease of use.
Never forget you're not a woman. Self-care for you as a dude is different and not an aesthetic choice. Strength, health and efficiency.

 

[Susanna]

From what I've read finasteride can also have nasty and sometimes permanent side effects. Talk to your doctor and do your research. Don't make potentially life-altering medical decision based on the dating preferences of anons.

He'd have to do that regardless, it's a prescription medication. I'm just saying to look into it, there are alternatives to balding, and I think it's worth exhausting the options before just accepting the curse of genetics.

 

[Executive Petrel]

How do I become a male feminist?

 

[quackrock]

He'd have to do that regardless, it's a prescription medication. I'm just saying to look into it, there are alternatives to balding, and I think it's worth exhausting the options before just accepting the curse of genetics.

What I'm also trying to say is don't look at finasteride like troons look at HRT, i.e. the magic bullet that'll solve all your personal problems. Some men do see it (or hair plugs, transplants, and hairpieces) this way and it isn't healthy. This can cause them to overlook serious side effects or ignore other potential solutions.

Relevant:

 

[Autistic Mushroom]

If the arguments against trying to fight the bald are either "Yeah sure women hate it, but technically you can still be hot anyways if you're perfect in literally every other way." or "You're supposed to be ugly as a man anyways so who cares?" then I think my mind is made up and I'll be talking to my doctor about finasteride.

 

[CoolFool]

If you're a dude, and you engage in that microneedling shit, your issue is not balding, but insecurity and fear of growing old.
Being fit and eating well do not count, as those provide measurable benefits to your body and a better quality of life.
Hair doesn't provide shit. I only had it long when in highschool, after that, off with it, aerodynamics and ease of use.
Never forget you're not a woman. Self-care for you as a dude is different and not an aesthetic choice. Strength, health and efficiency.

Fixing hairloss has nothing to do with self care nor is it a gendered issue. Like it or not, having a full head of hair is a biological marker of health and something both genders find attractive in a partner.

If the arguments against trying to fight the bald are either "Yeah sure women hate it, but technically you can still be hot anyways if you're perfect in literally every other way." or "You're supposed to be ugly as a man anyways so who cares?" then I think my mind is made up and I'll be talking to my doctor about finasteride.

I believe guys are coping hard when they say you shouldn't mind being bald since you're a dude or that women don't care as long as you're healthy in other ways. They either can't accept that they lost the genetic lottery with their bad hair genes, or they don't want to accept that it's going to take effort to fix their hair problems.

The fact is, and there are multiple studies to back this up, women don't like guys with shit hair health. There are some guys that can pull off the bald look very well, but the average guy can't. Even people that look good bald still usually look better with hair. The only time I think a man should shave his head or go completely bald is if he's tried everything but nothing is fixing his hair health. At that point it's better to go that way than to keep a head of hair that has very bad recession or thinning/bald patches.

Having nice and healthy hair can really make or break your looks and it's stupid for anyone, man or woman, to just accept it without a fight.

 

[AgendaPoster]

having a full head of hair is a biological marker of health

A fake marker for men. Prevalence of baldness for males between 18-50 or so is 50%.
It also appears in performance athletes with strict diets, low body fat and healthy lifestyles, so genetics are a serious factor.
Men need to stop this insecurity lunacy and shave noggin when starting to lose hair. It's basically irrelevant.

 

[Shidoen]

Ladies it’s fine to have a bald man if you get some turtle wax and polish his head everyday. It’s for good luck.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

If I were your wife/gf, I'd ask you to consider getting started on finasteride. It's not one of the troon antiandrogens, it only targets the specific testosterone variant that causes balding (but it will also reduce skin greasiness and acne). If you start before your hair actually thins noticeably, you'll have much better results than the average troon/coping baldie, who only starts treating their hair loss by the time it's past irreversible. Chances are it stops you from balding entirely. And if it doesn't, shaving it all off is still an option.
Balding/being bald is an enormous turnoff to me, and I imagine it's the same for most women. Very few men can pull it off, and even when they do it's usually because the rest of them is 10/10 and they're still hot despite being bald. Even if you do get married before hair loss kicks in, wouldn't you want to save your wife the disappointment? I'm probably not wrong when I say that most balding men wish they'd started treating their hair loss early, rather than hope that they'd grow to accept being bald. My husband has been taking it since his late twenties, and his hairline has barely receded at all if you compare photos, versus my father in law who basically looks like Danny DeVito.

I don't want to boss you around or anything, you do what you prefer. I just wanted to let you know that there is an alternative, but that you'd need to start it sooner rather than later.

That's the way to go tbh. It's true that most women don't like bald men, but most women would rather date a guy with a bald or shaved head than a man who has obvious bald patches or a bad receding hairline. It just looks bad and unkempt to keep hanging on to something that clearly isn't getting going to get better.

That said, if you don't have hair issues now but know you might in the future due to genetics, I would start taking precautions now. There's a lot of stuff out there these days. Microneedling is one, my friend did this to fix the hairloss on her temples and it worked. Another one of my friends uses a laser hair helmet and it completely cured his thinning hair, including a pretty alarming looking bald spot on the back of his head. This took time though (like 4 months of use) and you also have to use it before the hair loss get's too bad or it won't work.

There's other methods out there (supplements and rogaine and finasteride) but tbh I've heard certain products can kill male libido permanently so definitely research these before you do them. I'd personally start with the safer methods that don't fuck with your hormones (like microneedling and laser therapy) first before going down the supplement/serum route.

Just so you know I'm autistic about no "extra chemicals" to the point I don't take cold or fever medicine in those circumstances, try to exercise the illness away. No pain suppressors too, just wait for headaches and backaches to go away. So there's almost zero chance that I'm taking any drugs for cosmetic reasons but I appreciate the info, it is good to have.

Quick aside since we're on the hair convo, I've always liked the tomboy pixie hair on women the most and the bob cut second but I know most of them don't like having either cause the first one is gay and the second one is Karen. How do I bring up this fact in a possible relationship without sounding offensive cause I know every woman takes looks dead seriously.

 

[CoolFool]

Quick aside since we're on the hair convo, I've always liked the tomboy pixie hair on women the most and the bob cut second but I know most of them don't like having either cause the first one is gay and the second one is Karen. How do I bring up this fact in a possible relationship without sounding offensive cause I know every woman takes looks dead seriously.

Don't bring it up, that won't end well for you. If you like the tomboy look then go find a woman that already has that look. Most women don't have these hairdos because they look bad in it. Most women have tried this look and know first hand they don't like it or they would do it already. I would personally love to have shorter hair since long hair is a pain in the ass, but I have tried it in the past and I look like a prepubescent boy with short hair.

If some guy I was dating brought up that they would like my hair shorter, I'd feel bad because 1. they don't like how I currently look and 2. I couldn't give them what they wanted because I hate the short hair look.

 

[nonnita]

@Georgio Cocklord
>the second one is Karen
it really depends on how you style it. the Karen cut is basically bob parted on the side. I really love the french bob with bangs (picrel). I’ve seen women with this type of hairstyle and they look just wonderful.
regarding the pixie cut, it’s a really cute hairstyle and there are women out there who rock this one without being a gender special (cough cough Winona Ryder).

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

The medication arsenal they have on offer is tailored to completely fuck you up mentally, destroy your creativity, obliterate your energy and make you various types of a vegetable, and most of these meds are not even making you high/euphoric.

Late, late late, but Yes and no. SSRIs can help someone stabilize or the fog lift enough for them to catch their breath, recover functionality, or see more clearly. And ideally, that person would, once functional on a med, do some serious work - with a therapist, alone, or whatever - to sort what can possibly be sorted, then to internalize it and move forward more aware and much more capable. Ideally (in relatively straightforward situations) they would serve a limited purpose and then be discontinued (or at least lowered) once the stability sticks or becomes a flat lack of motivation.

Ideally. In truth, some people get on and stay on SSRIs for very long times. Of course some of that is complex situations and personal constitutions or circumstances that make life very complicated, unfunctional, or unsustainable without chemical help. For others, it's more a means to manage day to day that feels better than without and works okay.

None can be fixed by anyone but yourself,

This is what therapy aims to do.

You know, better question, what's an immediate dealbreaker for most women?

Like not being able to take care of yourself, or being messy or dirty, or being a jerk or something.

- can't laugh at themselves
- negative orientation to the world
- controlling
- cranky
- boring/narrow
- uninterested in what the world has to offer
- incurious
- miserly
- selfish
- dishonest
- unchivalrous
- resentful
- insecurity that manifests in meanness
- drugs
- inability to manage alcohol
- lazy
- poor fiscal management
- poor self-awareness, delusion, or deception
- mommy issues
- self-centeredness
- tone-deafness
- misanthropy
- manipulation
- lack of hobbies or interests...or interest in finding some
- no interest in trying new things

In sum, I am completely turned off by negative Nancies or men content with narrow experiences, desires, or perspectives, especially men defiantly attached to that. I appreciate genuine and well-applied seriousness and responsibility, but I am repulsed by dullness and lack of interest in life, and the lack of ability to lighten up ever.

Quick aside since we're on the hair convo, I've always liked the tomboy pixie hair on women the most and the bob cut second but I know most of them don't like having either cause the first one is gay and the second one is Karen. How do I bring up this fact in a possible relationship without sounding offensive cause I know every woman takes looks dead seriously.

What @CoolFool said. Wtf would you bring up "I prefer x hairstyle"? If it's important to you, start with women already rocking it rather than immediately thinking how to "improve" some person to suit your preferred aesthetic.

A fake marker for men. Prevalence of baldness for males between 18-50 or so is 50%.
It also appears in performance athletes with strict diets, low body fat and healthy lifestyles, so genetics are a serious factor.
Men need to stop this insecurity lunacy and shave noggin when starting to lose hair. It's basically irrelevant.

Agree this issue is being way overblown itt, but disagree about shaving heads. Some people/heads are well-suited for shaving, but many - many - are not. So unless situation is dire, delay until the receding is unflattering. But of course, no combovers.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

What @CoolFool said. Wtf would you bring up "I prefer x hairstyle"? If it's important to you, start with women already rocking it rather than immediately thinking how to "improve" some person to suit your preferred aesthetic.

Im not gonna be an asshole and say "I prefer x hairstyle" or something snobby like that you know. It will be more along the lines of "Hey have you tried X, Ive always liked that". Also when it comes to physical looks and putting effort in to look good, I would like my partner to do the same if I were to, its just two people working out their preferences to the best of their abilities for the benefit of the other. Its not some exploitative guilt tripping to force the other person to change against their will, even retards know its better to preserve the relationship if there were hints of it getting to that point unless said retard is an evil asshole.

 

[Susanna]

Im not gonna be an asshole and say "I prefer x hairstyle" or something snobby like that you know. It will be more along the lines of "Hey have you tried X, Ive always liked that". Also when it comes to physical looks and putting effort in to look good, I would like my partner to do the same if I were to, its just two people working out their preferences to the best of their abilities for the benefit of the other. Its not some exploitative guilt tripping to force the other person to change against their will, even retards know its better to preserve the relationship if there were hints of it getting to that point unless said retard is an evil asshole.

So if she asked you to take finasteride, you would?

There's really no subtle way to ask her to change her hairstyle.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

So if she asked you to take finasteride, you would?

There's really no subtle way to ask her to change her hairstyle.

Probably not and I wouldnt even ask in the first place if I know that its gonna be a hot topic. Im open to other non chemical changes like working out or facial hair, changes which are reasonable to my boundaries. Same thing, if its a change within her operable boundaries and reasonable enough I dont see why it should be a problem. I dont even see it as confrontational, I dont know why it has to be.

 

[sleeperagent]

You girls actually willing to help these men?

 

[CoolFool]

Same thing, if its a change within her operable boundaries and reasonable enough I dont see why it should be a problem. I dont even see it as confrontational, I dont know why it has to be.

Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. Most women simply aren't going to like it being suggested no matter how you phrase it, and it will end badly lol. Just go find you a tomboy.

 

[Chromeo]

I feel like if I'm dating a man and he says "You'd look cute with a french bob," I wouldn't be offended by his suggestion of a hairstyle, I'd be offended because clearly he's gay and he's been stringing me along as his beard this whole time.