Business Ammo Prices Set to Rise 'Substantially' - Israel and Ukraine needs ammo

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Vista Outdoor, a parent company to many firearms businesses, told Newsweek that it will substantially increase its ammunition prices due to "an anticipated global shortage of gunpowder."

The Minnesota-based company confirmed the authenticity of a December 1 letter sent to customers that it would go ahead with an across-the-board increase of its ammunition and gunpowder prices on January 1.

"Due to world events our suppliers have notified us of unprecedented demand for and an anticipated global shortage of gunpowder, and thus has increased our prices substantially," Vice President of Sales, Sporting Products Brett Nelson said in the letter. "We must therefore raise our pricing to help offset those increases."

Companies that will increase their prices include Remington, Alliant Powder, CCI, Federal, SEVI-Shot and Speer. The following increases include:

Shotshell: 1-7 percent
Rifle: 1-7 percent
Handgun: 1-5 percent
22LR/Shorts: 1-5 percent
WMR/HMR: 1-7 percent
Primers: 5 percent
Alliant Powder: 10 percent (limited availability).

Vista Outdoor also told customers that unless they cancel an order, it will reprice "existing and future orders shipped on or after January 1, 2024, to the new prices." New price lists will follow in the coming weeks, Nelson said in the letter.

Ammunition prices have steadily increased over the decades, including a notable hikeduring the COVID-19 pandemic as supply soared while supply chains were heavily disrupted.

While Vista Outdoor did not specifically say which world events contributed to the increase, the war in Ukraine and the conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza have resulted in substantial demand for ammunition.

Following a call for support from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Vista Outdoor pledged in March 2022 to support the country through a 1-million-round ammunition donation.

"Supporting the relief effort is a crucial element of the global response and we are proud to do our part," Vista Outdoor said in the release.

"It underscores how critical the Second Amendment is in America and highlights the importance of the ability of American Manufacturers to supply our allies with ammunition. We have long supported Ukrainian armed forces and we will continue to do so in this global cause to unite for democracy."

In September, NATO allies and partners met in Paris and agreed to $2.58 billion worth of contracts and orders for "hundreds of thousands of pieces of key ammunition." The first deliveries were scheduled to start toward the end of this year.

"NATO has tried and tested structures for joint procurement—and they are delivering. I welcome Allies' commitment to making major new investments in ammunition," Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in September.

Correction 12/12/23, 07:58 ET: This article has been updated to correct the date of Vista Outdoor's pledge from March 2024 to March 2022.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

Even a 20% price hike would be nothing compared to the bullshit people had to pay for ammo in 2020-2021. Every time there's a problem, no matter where in the world, no matter how minor, retarded boomers start hoarding tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, like they think the Sea People will invade and initiate a total societal collapse.

Don't blame Putin, don't blame Zelenskyy, blame American boomers trying to sell you a 1911 for $4,500 because "I know what I got."

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Sounds like the usual pricing out strategy of gun control only using the wars as an excuse (Israel is a tiny conflict and Ukraine is two years underway by now)

 

[Dialtone]

I'm unsure who Alliant Powder supplies, but Remington Federal and CCI are owned by Vista there's still plenty of European manufacturers that sell CIP spec ammo that's better anyways.

 

[Asian tech support]

"It underscores how critical the Second Amendment is in America and highlights the importance of the ability of American Manufacturers to supply our allies with ammunition. We have long supported Ukrainian armed forces and we will continue to do so in this global cause to unite for democracy."

"We would rather give millions of rounds to Our Greatest Allies™, creating a shortage and gouging our American customer base, than selling to those customers normally and not taking part in the globalist's forever wars."

 

[Dialtone]

"We would rather give millions of rounds to Our Greatest Allies™, creating a shortage and gouging our American customer base, than selling to those customers normally and not taking part in the globalist's forever wars."

Well yeah who doesn't want a kickback and skim money?

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Ha. Sucks to be everyone else. I stocked up years ago.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

This is was discussed in the gun thread but this boils down to the fact that there has been a shortage of nitroglycerin for the past 8-10 months due to it being a feedstock for the manufacture of almost all modern energetics. The major US manufacturer of NG is BAE at Radford Arsenal in VA. Everything else is coming from overseas. With the ramp up of military procurement these are being routed to artillery shell manufacturing.

While Vista is blaming this on powder I think the bigger driver of these price increases is the fact that Vista is broke. They have been looking for a buyer for the past year and now the Czechs are buying them. As far as I know none of the other major manufacturers have increased prices.

 

[biglurker]

Why not just build the factories we needed since arguably before 2020 to make ammo more manageable? We are in two proxy wars, maybe a third if china has a chinka moment.

Are they stupid?

 

[ZazietheBeast]

This is unironically why its important to buy your ammo at earlier times. Also in case you don't have a gun... crossbows are a worthy replacement as its possible to make them semi to full auto. And if that isn't an option.. look into making traps like the Viet Cong.

You can do amazing things with a hammer, nails and some wood.

Why not just build the factories we needed since arguably before 2020 to make ammo more manageable? We are in two proxy wars, maybe a third if china has a chinka moment.

Are they stupid?

The government is literally hijacked by a parasite and said parasite is leading them to their failure.

They are not too different from snails and slugs infected by a certain wasp larvae that seek out birds to be eaten. Or ants infected with cordyceps to try and spread the contagion to other ants.

Parasitized organisms will act erratically to the point of suicide.

 

[Fatboi Gus]

Why not just build the factories we needed since arguably before 2020 to make ammo more manageable? We are in two proxy wars, maybe a third if china has a chinka moment.

Are they stupid?

They decided to send a large percentage of our 5.56 ammo to Ukraine while, from my understanding, they were in the process of changing their entire supply chain to 6.8mm procurement for the upcoming introduction of the new battle rifle. So now we are doing 2-3 proxy wars with critically low ammo reserves and a supply chain in complete disarray. Im sure Kiwi army fags can tell is more.

They're not stupid, they're retarded.

 

[Starved Artist]

Why not just build the factories we needed since arguably before 2020 to make ammo more manageable? We are in two proxy wars, maybe a third if china has a chinka moment.

Are they stupid?

Let me take my tin foil hat off for a moment.
It's a multifold , multigenerational scam.

• America's "commitment" to lowering emissions. By outsourcing everything and not building factors, we've cut our emissions by 70%.
• Gun horders do not know how to make their own bullets, nor do they have the skill needed to make their own gunpowder. Anyone who knows how to properly reuse casings and recast? That knowledge is getting rarer and rarer these days because the Credit Card generation only knows how to spend money on the flashiest under-rail attachments they can find and ZOMBIESLAYER engravings on their guns.
• Building Factories means Americans have a chance to escape the artificial poverty that's being enforced on them, by not only increasing supply but giving people opportunities and money.
• Artificial Poverty means Artificial Fear and Artificial Crime. People will need to resort to crime, people will need to defend themselves from crime and fear. The guys holding all the guns at the inflated rates will get the profit.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Even a 20% price hike would be nothing compared to the bullshit people had to pay for ammo in 2020-2021. Every time there's a problem, no matter where in the world, no matter how minor, retarded boomers start hoarding tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, like they think the Sea People will invade and initiate a total societal collapse.

Don't blame Putin, don't blame Zelenskyy, blame American boomers trying to sell you a 1911 for $4,500 because "I know what I got."

It's not boomers, it's the whole world. Most of your first time buyers. I know, I was one. Not because of apocalyptic civil war so much as because of fears of more gun grabs making it scarcer, which is most of it for others too.