Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[RichardMongler]

What are all these WN orgs doing wrong that National Alliance got right (until WLP's death)?

A massive swath of White people who weren't relentlessly propagandized since they were little like Xers, Millennials and Zoomers. The country was also Whiter back then, so the pool to draw from was bigger.

 

[hawkisnight]

It's fine. You forgot to mention that he's also Jewish himself.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gjIUxspPUQUw/

This video is the best when it comes to exposing him for what he is and getting people to stop supporting him.

I haven't watched the video and probably won't but I just want to add that's believable. He always talks about the jews he knows, their way of thinking, their rituals etc. It's all because he grew up knowing a lot of jews! New York! Ey! Right, right

 

[White Dissident Radio]

What are all these WN orgs doing wrong that National Alliance got right (until WLP's death)?

What exactly did NA do right? What policies did they affect that changed your life for the better?

I know certain white nationalists love to talk about Pierce and Rockwell as if they were heroes, but what did they do that made the lives of white people better?

 

[Passing Through Town]

I know certain white nationalists love to talk about Pierce and Rockwell as if they were heroes, but what did they do that made the lives of white people better?

What an incredibly strange thing to ask. Rockwell literally died for what he believed in. Is that not enough to be considered a hero?

 

[White Dissident Radio]

What an incredibly strange thing to ask. Rockwell literally died for what he believed in. Is that not enough to be considered a hero?

I'm asking what the American Nazi Party did for white people. I'm trying to be objective.

But while we're talking about it, he was killed by a jew that he allowed into his ranks and only expelled when he started injecting Marxism into the Stormtrooper magazine. It's worth looking into the story if you're interested. But I would like an answer to the question. What do you think he did that makes life better for white people?

 

[Incel Death Note]

Mom and dad are fighting.

What happened with Sven and Randbot? I must have missed that.

 

[Passing Through Town]

What do you think he did that makes life better for white people?

Nothing, but what exactly could he have done without obtaining office? He did his best to convince people and they simply didn't listen. There's not much more to it than that.

 

[Rekkington]

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Sven really takes "Fuck Your Small Business" to the next level doesn't he. I've never seen someone truly live their values like this.

 

[RichardMongler]

What exactly did NA do right? What policies did they affect that changed your life for the better?

I know certain white nationalists love to talk about Pierce and Rockwell as if they were heroes, but what did they do that made the lives of white people better?

What an incredibly strange thing to ask. Rockwell literally died for what he believed in. Is that not enough to be considered a hero?

I'm asking what the American Nazi Party did for white people. I'm trying to be objective.

But while we're talking about it, he was killed by a jew that he allowed into his ranks and only expelled when he started injecting Marxism into the Stormtrooper magazine. It's worth looking into the story if you're interested. But I would like an answer to the question. What do you think he did that makes life better for white people?

Funny thing is, Mike had this same exact contention. Of course, this commentary has aged comically poorly given the timeline since December 2nd of this year, but Mike does aptly describe what went wrong with 1.0:

In a conversation about White Americans, particularly boomers, and their attitudes towards race relations, Mike postulates that they don't absorb liberal or progressive assumptions unless they're bought in libtards because they instinctively know those people hate them for being White. Mike relates the FBI's ads on highway billboards soliciting tips related to anyone who went to the Capitol building on January 6th, 2021. For him, the presence of those billboards signifies that even the least informed non-libtarded White guy would be firmly aware that his interests are cause for government surveillance because they are not in line with the progressive elites' values.

The course of this discussion prompts Warren to relate an anecdote about Commander Rockwell showing up in Cicero, IL (suburb of Chicago) to counterprotest MLK's marches for integration and Civil Rights. For Warren, Rockwell's presence caused a sensation which resonated with and energized the White locals to take up the fight against MLK. Warren does admit that he initially had reservations on Commander Rockwell as he first found the military leader's crude and open racism alienating and counterproductive along with a perceived misapprehension of National Socialism ideologically. Warren believes that Commander Rockwell's parading around in mock Nazi uniforms effective for the time of total media control as the way to play the media was to first grab their attention, and going around in proper suits and ties was simply being ignored. Warren's opinions mirror Dr. Pierce's assessment of Commander Rockwell, and he too found Commander's ability to command media attention productive. Ultimately, Warren feels that Rockwell understood that White people instinctively oppose Civil Rights, miscegenation and integration but needed a strong leader to reflect those values and lead the fight.

Completely unconvinced of Warren's take, Mike counters that he found the Commander's tactics of parading around in mock Nazi uniforms very exhibitionist and ultimately undermined his credibility. Mike believes the fight against the Civil Rights movement would have been far more effective if they made their case directly in front of White Americans without any of the theatrics. Make your presence known at every Civil Rights demonstration. Trying to work through the media was never going to work because that apparatus is built against you. Simply tell Joe Q. Public that proponents of Civil Rights were going to integrate every space possible and not just the schools. Mike is particularly confident that he and the National Justice Party could make the case to the American people of that time far more effectively than Commander Rockwell could. Mike does agree with Warren that Rockwell was taken out because he was becoming ungovernable, but his challenge to Warren is that, if the Commander's tactics were successful, the NJP should emulate them exactly. Mike ultimately thinks Commander Rockwell's "success" is owed to the fact that Americans could openly talk about race candidly at that time rather than anything the American Nazi Party did on the streets. Warren responds by stating the internet renders the ANP's tactics irrelevant, but Mike is unconvinced. Mike then says that he came dangerously close to going down the same path Commander Rockwell did, and he finds the demand by internet Nazis to emulate the ANP's tactics to be counterproductive and those who aggressively demand others engage in it to be acting in bad faith. The coup de grâce comes when Mike compares this tendency in internet Nazi discourse to a comic where a man is being egged on the jump off a cliff to his own peril but refuses. After being berated by others as a "cliff cuck" who's "seething," he ignores his instincts, gives into peer pressure and then leaps off to this demise. To Mike, Warren's defense of Commander Rockwell is a giant post-hoc rationalization, and his career is ultimately a case of lost potential.

With regards to Dr. Pierce who Mike calls "an alienating sperg," he thinks the National Alliance's leader's strategy of building a vanguard movement to be a retreat from engaging in popular politics and failing ultimately to bring the message to the masses. It reflects on a total lack of confidence in your views and opinions, and perhaps, it is also a tacit admission you are aware your ideas make you an outcast. In terms of Pierce's books, Mike finds the fundamental flaw in both stories' narratives to be that the settings have competent and functioning pro-White organizations in place when, in reality, no such groups exist. It is difficult to take the story seriously when such a group has never been made real. He also finds Hunter's premise of Federal Agents genuinely interested in advancing pro-White causes to be downright laughable at its face especially when the story's protagonist is a cold-blooded murderer of interracial couples.

 

[White Dissident Radio]

Nothing, but what exactly could he have done without obtaining office? He did his best to convince people and they simply didn't listen. There's not much more to it than that.

Because of all the grifting that has been going on for the last 20 years, it has made me question what White Nationalism has actually done for White people. Questioning the methods of Enoch and company has made me wonder if the whole thing wasn't ill-conceived from the very beginning.

Instead of dressing up guys in Nazi uniforms and riding around on the Hate Bus trying to attract as much negative attention as possible and succeeding, do you ever think that maybe something a little more grass-roots and normal would've been a better ticket? Because the GLR model of roman saluting in the street and attracting negative attention has been going strong and failing for the last 60 years. I think it all needs to be questioned and a totally new approach is needed, especially considering the original iteration never worked.

Just food for thought.

 

[Saddam Hussain Obama]

it blows my mind people ever fell for these guys grift especially after wifegate

Because of all the grifting that has been going on for the last 20 years, it has made me question what White Nationalism has actually done for White people. Questioning the methods of Enoch and company has made me wonder if the whole thing wasn't ill-conceived from the very beginning.

Instead of dressing up guys in Nazi uniforms and riding around on the Hate Bus trying to attract as much negative attention as possible and succeeding, do you ever think that maybe something a little more grass-roots and normal would've been a better ticket? Because the GLR model of roman saluting in the street and attracting negative attention has been going strong and failing for the last 60 years. I think it all needs to be questioned and a totally new approach is needed, especially considering the original iteration never worked.

Just food for thought.

i think what nick fuentes was doing before he went full mask off retard i think the stratagy of tying yourself to right wing and conservative causes is much more effective because you already have a base where i think TRS really dropped the ball is lack of christianity tying the movement to faith is a winning stratagy because you already have a large base of people you just need to convince them to oppose aid for israel and they already oppose migration so why tie it to something losing like SANDNIGGERS COMING OVER THE BORDER BECAUSE OF STUPID KIKES

 

[Finnish Air Force]

> be Director of Security and Counterintelligence
> have name and private chats leaked

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

What exactly did NA do right? What policies did they affect that changed your life for the better?

I know certain white nationalists love to talk about Pierce and Rockwell as if they were heroes, but what did they do that made the lives of white people better?

I'm asking what the American Nazi Party did for white people. I'm trying to be objective.

But while we're talking about it, he was killed by a jew that he allowed into his ranks and only expelled when he started injecting Marxism into the Stormtrooper magazine. It's worth looking into the story if you're interested. But I would like an answer to the question. What do you think he did that makes life better for white people?

Rockwell was a beacon of National Socialism and woke many White people up to the truth and still continues to today. His efforts popularized NS ideologies in America.
The traitorous cocksucker was not a Jew and sneaked his way into their ranks by posing as one of them, only to be exposed and kicked out for being commie filth.

 

[White Dissident Radio]

His efforts popularized NS ideologies in America.

I don't want to nitpick here, but NS ideologies are not popular in America. Hell, NS ideologies probably aren't even popular in this thread. Turn off the podcasts and go outside and talk to people.

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

I don't want to nitpick here, but NS ideologies are not popular in America. Turn off the podcasts and go outside and talk to people.

Of course not, but he still manages to inspire many White people today. I count even just 100 as a "many", every White person is value. Read White Power and This Time the World.

 

[White Dissident Radio]

Of course not, but he still manages to inspire many White people today. I count even just 100 as a "many", every White person is value. Read White Power and This Time the World.

I have both sitting on a book shelf next to me along with Mein Kampf and a host of others. I've read Rockwell. I've read Pierce. I have listened to and uploaded every WLP broadcast. I have watched every episode of Ernst Zundel's public access Canadian TV show.

The books have inspired many, no doubt. But we're at the point where we are already a minority or soon to be. Words are just words. We have plenty of talented people who can say words. While you might think that Nazi uniforms and the Hate Bus was a swell idea, I'm looking back and wondering if post-WW2 America really needed that. And if it is an inspiration, who is it an inspiration to? Christopher Polhaus and Handsome Truth?

 

[American Castration]

It's probably helpful to flashback to the pre-Striker era, the young-dumb-and-full-of-cum days of TRS:
It was fun.
It was inspired by 'Opie and Anthony' and all the various drive-time "shock jock" shows that all municipal rock stations had.
The format for these shockjock shows of the 90s and 00s was:
>Big Personality (usually with a distinctive voice)
>Normal Guy whose agreeable with B.P. but also reins in his excesses a little
>Tech Guy, who adds in news, weather, and the occasional screened caller

That's the feel that TRS had pre-Striker. It was fun, it was sane, it was right wing, and you could unsarcastically send a URL to your buddy and not expect him to ghost you afterward. Any talk of Hitler or the Holocaust was - while sincere - also playful, the way Nick Fuentes does now. There was no angry, self-righteous screeching about "the Volk" or Fuhrers or how great Canadian health care is any of this other nutty shit.

Sven is now clearly lost the handle from being "Normal Guy". He's at least as hardcore as Mike Enoch, and is also bitter and deranged, not calm and cool. Mike is no longer Big Personality. He's now just, basically, Kevin Smith except babbling about Holocaust trivia instead of Funko Pops.

Maybe Mike, Sven, and Alex should take a six month sabbatical, just try to reorient themselves to the world, get away from all the online lunatics, go to some family graduation parties, weddings, reunions, etc. Then see whether they still have it in them to keep this thing going.

 

[RichardMongler]

The Third Rail addresses the demise of the NJP.

 

[Dire Dire Cocks]

I have both sitting on a book shelf next to me along with Mein Kampf and a host of others. I've read Rockwell. I've read Pierce. I have listened to and uploaded every WLP broadcast. I have watched every episode of Ernst Zundel's public access Canadian TV show.

The books have inspired many, no doubt. But we're at the point where we are already a minority or soon to be. Words are just words. We have plenty of talented people who can say words. While you might think that Nazi uniforms and the Hate Bus was a swell idea, I'm looking back and wondering if post-WW2 America really needed that. And if it is an inspiration, who is it an inspiration to? Christopher Polhaus and Handsome Truth?

If Christopher Polhaus or Jon Minadeo actually read Rockwell or Pierce they wouldn't be doing the retarded shit they are doing.

The marches, uniforms, etc were fun and helped a lot of people get to the idea (considering this was a while ago and speech wasn't really censored as much), but I do think that attempting it today is suicide. Back then, it was a nice way to spread the message, considering that there was no Internet and shit, but now it is just asking to be arrested by the feds.

 

[Passing Through Town]

While you might think that Nazi uniforms and the Hate Bus was a swell idea

You're always disingenuous, and it's very irritating. No one here - or in or adjacent to the NJP for that matter - is suggesting that everyone dress up as Nazis and goosestep down to the capitol throwing roman salutes. Everyone knows that there are better approaches than that, and you're not helping anyone by pretending as though this is some kind of novel idea. The whole reason people showed interest in the NJP is because it was advertised as the kind of grass-roots political campaigning you're suggesting. How about we discuss shit that's actually relevant to the thread instead of your personal musings about what strategy is best for WN. You're just another podcaster, don't forget that.

Moving on, Hovater posted this message from people seeking to contact Mike directly about the McKevitt incident. I find it somewhat amusing that they have someone here with the title of "Director of Security and Counterintelligence".