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BSDPR said:
So I’m not gonna doxx myself, but when I got into my local pool party/supporter group…my initial thought was “this is it? Like….maybe 30 guys total in this whole local group?” because I’m in one of the most densely populated parts of the country. I was genuinely flabbergasted and how few there were being that they always talked about how NJP had so many members, why the fuck was my group so damned small? One of many things that made me go “hmmm” that added up to me realizing that I had been really naive and too trustful with these grifters (before I understood they were such).
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Do you mind going into what their "vetting" process entailed? That always sketched me out a bit.
A local friend I've known most of my life was in a pool party and wanted me to come on board. The only thing he would tell me about the process was that I would have to meet some people alone at our local free mason hall.
 
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This is amazing.

Reminder this guy literally pays HOA fees to keep a synagogue inside his gated community in business btw.
 
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Erik Dunstan said:
Reminder this guy literally pays HOA fees to keep a synagogue inside his gated community in business btw.
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I keep seeing this accusation, does he really live in a jewish neighborhood?

If true, how does he reconcile it with his antisemitism?
 
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Steamboat Captain said:
Do you mind going into what their "vetting" process entailed? That always sketched me out a bit.
A local friend I've known most of my life was in a pool party and wanted me to come on board. The only thing he would tell me about the process was that I would have to meet some people alone at our local free mason hall.
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There wasn't too much to it, but it just took god damn forever. I sent an email out to whatever email they had at the time for vetting/joining requests. Something like 2-3 months later I get a response, asking where in the country I was. Maybe 2 months after I get contacted by the pool party leader, and had a voice call with him over threema. At no point did they ask for my real name or any personal information. Then maybe a month later I met in person with the pool party leader and another one of their guys. Then a meeting with one of the local guys maybe a few weeks after that. From what I remember what they asked me, it was mostly "what was your redpill journey" in so many words, "how did you come to your current beliefs", etc. They did ask me if I had any questions or if I agreed with the NJP's 14 points (or however many bullet points was on that thing, I can't remember).

They did ask if I had ever or am currently a federal agent, or work for the government in any capacity (no, I'm not). After that I got invited to a few hangouts, and everyone used a pseudonym or whatever they used as their online name, and also added to the group chat. As I've said before, I ghosted after Sven had his "fuck your small business" meltdown, and seeing some people in the chat downplay Conte's expulsion. I'll also say again that I don't have any bad words to say about any of the guys I met IRL, they were some genuine dudes...but I kind of feel like the pool party leader was taking his marching orders from Hovater about how to quell any discontent within the group after Conte, and then Sven's meltdown. After learning about Hovater doxxing people and the leaked chats where it's very obvious he's a spiteful sociopath who actively fucks with people, I was a bit concerned that if I voiced any concern that I might get the doxxing treatment, so that's why I just completely ghosted.

I'll also add that now looking back with current knowledge, how in the FUCK did it take roughly 6 months for me to get vetted, with only apparenlty 4-600 members nationwide? Like I said, my local group was around 30 guys....in one of the most densely populated areas of the country. It shouldn't have taken so long between the steps. First thing that happened that made me go "hmm" about the whole thing. I honestly believe Hovater was delaying shit deliberately and obstructing vetting like some others have said/leaked chats.
 
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Mr.F said:
I keep seeing this accusation, does he really live in a jewish neighborhood?

If true, how does he reconcile it with his antisemitism?
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I had to look this up myself because I didn't want to believe it. This gated community also has its own private fire, police and ambulance services plus an exclusive library for residents in addition to the synagogue everyone else mentions. Far from being a common guy who is just telling us how it us, he lives in a self-contained bubble insulated from the outside world (with his Jewish wife)

BSDPR said:
I was a bit concerned that if I voiced any concern that I might get the doxxing treatment, so that's why I just completely ghosted.
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At the time I was working for a very left-leaning company and was afraid of getting doxxed, since it would spell doom for my career, so that's mostly why I stayed away. I don't think my friend is involved with them anymore, but I do know they went around my town putting up NJP stickers which have since all been ripped off.
 
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Mr.F said:
I keep seeing this accusation, does he really live in a jewish neighborhood?

If true, how does he reconcile it with his antisemitism?
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he has no principles.

also a tactical antisemite, Sven was fine with Mike's jew wife going on TDS to sing a Christmas parody before Mike was doxed

if anyone wants to understand Sven just remember he only cares about money.

that's it. He will gladly cash in donations people send to TRS/NJP thinking they are doing something against White people suffering and use that money to buy guitars and pay for the fucking synagogue at Hemlock farms.
 
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Jurassic park said:
For some reason it won't let me quote you @Blamo2000
Wasn't it Pat Condell who said white nationalist politics had to begin with the dust bins? The average Joe doesn't have racial pride or any interest in politics. They care about their family and their daily life. You will gain more political power by saying you will improve the garbage pick up than you will saying we want to protect whites. All of these LARPing tards failed at the first hurdle and acted like LA influencers rather than real political players. Turning up to protests full of paid actors does nothing to improve the average Joe's life and risks your guys ending up in prison for life. They could have run the edgy podcast while working in local politics to gain power. Then use stealth laws to help protect their interests from outsides. Mike and Sven want to be popular on Twitch, they don't care about improving anything outside of their own attention. Fist fights with soylent creatures doesn't progress the cause. It's an adrenaline rush and then a warrant for your arrest by a system known to send white nationalists to Bubba's love shack.
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I think when a post is too long quoting the entire thing is not an option.

And I agree. People are rolling with an outsider view of politics, not how it actually works. I am concerned because I think the cause is good at the end of the day and it boils my blood to see people doing the same couple of mistakes over and over again.

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This is amazing.

Reminder this guy literally pays HOA fees to keep a synagogue inside his gated community in business btw.
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What he did exactly? lol
 
EyeGuy said:
"I can't figure out why everyone laughed at Commander Rockwell for trying to save the White Race."
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"The fucking Jews won't serve my National Socialist organization pizza. Time to break out the old Swazi and protest in front of their restaurant. No one denies the commander his large pepperoni pie."

Those were the days, a Jew stops your pizza party and you could get a good 20-30 guys out like that to protest in front of their building the next day. Now, a gang of Blacks beat a White kid walking home to death and it takes 3 weeks to get 10 people to show up to protest.

Rockwell can be cartoony to be sure, but he's still doing better than NJP is or I should say was.
 
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FightenGnome said:
"The fucking Jews won't serve my National Socialist organization pizza. Time to break out the old Swazi and protest in front of their restaurant. No one denies the commander his large pepperoni pie."

Those were the days, a Jew stops your pizza party and you could get a good 20-30 guys out like that to protest in front of their building the next day. Now, a gang of Blacks beat a White kid walking home to death and it takes 3 weeks to get 10 people to show up to protest.

Rockwell can be cartoony to be sure, but he's still doing better than NJP is or I should say was.
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Fuck your small pizza business.
 
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perfectly valid reason to protest
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Nobody denies a man his pizza.

Quick edit: Alex McNabb has posted this postmortem on the state of White Nationalism.
A serious talk about white nationalism

by Alex McNabb

Aside from telling people to Read Venner and dropping some clarifying comments here and there on current struggle sessions, I actually haven't engaged in my former practice of putting some actual effort into an effort-post. So here goes, this is what you should know about the prospects of white nationalism. We're gonna start by defining our terms so that every internet sperg doesn't just insert his own aspirational platitudinous bullshit in here.

White nationalism is concerned with achieving some level of representation for whites as a distinct and potentially autonomous ethnic group. That means changing public policy to serve the collective interests of whites in some fashion.

Now let's move on to the obstacles.

External challenges

-Nationalism of any kind is implicitly verboten under the current world order. Racial nationalism even less so. Southern secessionism is a more realistic possibility than white nationalism so hopefully that puts things in perspective for you.

-Total domination of the American media system by a top-down management system that precludes any discussion whatsoever of white interests. Worse than you slandering you, the current tactic is to ignore you. Social media will blacklist your name and autoban anyone that mentions you.

-The ability to debank and financially neuter anything attached to white nationalism. Believe me I know this one all too well. You could literally run out of banks willing to do business with you while playing in this minefield. Forget credit card processing.

-Secret police scrutinizing your every move. America is a police state and policing white nationalism is a priority. They can and will gay-op your group.

-Lawfare. Jewish groups in particular will literally throw money at SLAPP suits to dismantle your organizations.

-Atomized American population of generational nomadic individualists who don't care about nobody or nothin'. America is big, it's spread out, and everyone marinates in a soup of anti-racist meritocratic kumbaya bullshit. You don't need to read Bowling Alone to know this place has experienced a total social collapse and everyone exists as a post-apocalyptic cyberpunk survivor huddled down in their grindset while the purple lightning of LGBTQ+ flashes against the underside of dismal corporate gray thunderclouds. Forget white nationalism, just getting a disc golf group together is hard enough in this dystopia.

Internal challenges

-The biggest challenge is the white nationalists themselves through a cruel paradox related to their development. Simply put, if you grew up in modern America and found yourself becoming pro-white and racist towards everyone else, you are probably a disagreeable, anti-social asshole on some level. This does not mean your conclusions are wrong, but to reach those conclusions requires you to be oppositional and defiant towards every authority and most people in this country, which is coincidentally a type of mental disorder under the DSM 5.

-Believing that the accumulation of other white nationalists to your group is a barometer for success. It is not, what it represents is a volatile and dangerously unstable powderkeg for reasons I just established. The real metric of success is not cobbling together a temporary coalition of stochastic Nazis that are as likely to fight each other as an external enemy, real success would be transcending the internet racist ghetto and bringing over "average" white people in significant enough numbers to build a stable organization.

-A domain dependency problem. Put simply, being a moderately successful internet racist/podcaster does not in any way whatsoever translate into leadership or organizational ability. Americans in particular fall victim to confusing entertainment with ability. Reality stars, actors and podcasters are rarely good leaders and the reverse is also true. The same applies to intelligence; extremely high IQ people are generally not good leaders either for a whole bunch of reasons Edward Dutton could explain better than me.

-Allowing the white nationalist echo-chamber to set the norms and expectations for an organization. White nationalists are predictable NPCs if you ask them for ideas on what an organization *should* be doing. It always comes down to rallies, protests, stickers, flyers and other 1960's era cargo-culted activism. If it's risky, low reward, and high visibility, they wanna do it. Anything else is boring, time consuming, and might "black-pill" the morale of others should deficiencies in current strategies be uncovered. Listening to the white nationalist peanut gallery means getting stuck on a merry-go-round of failed ideas repeated forever.

-Pretending that "movement discipline" and blind loyalty are an asset. White people and most people in general for that matter don't work like this. Support is conditional, and that's fine. Folks expect forward movement or some kind of tangible reward/progress and failing to deliver will result in defections. That's to be expected and if you just shun everyone not on board with Sparkle Motion you'll have a tiny group of sycophants in the end.

-Telegram/forums/social media are an online Chinese finger-trap that breed nothing but discord and suck energy into negative directions. On balance these sites cause more damage than good but everyone is addicted to them.

Conclusions

Do not take any of things I've put forward as ruling out any possibility of political advocacy for white collective interests. You need to know what the facts on the ground are before you can do anything. If you want to improve something, you gotta be able to measure it. You gotta have a plan, and that plan should include figuring out a pathway around some of these big hurdles I've rattled off BEFORE you create a group. The idea that getting together a bunch of disgruntled white males and tapping into their creativity for Big Gains has been put deeper into the dirt than a crashed airliner. Ideally the notion there is about 20 % of the white American population that is amenable to defending their interests on racial grounds should be investigated thoroughly. If it exists and there's a way to tap into it, this would be the future, not simply getting more of what we already got clustered together to make more trouble for each other. It's very likely that someone with expertise in leadership and team-building is a much more important resource than finding the most redpilled dude with the highest enthusiasm for Nazi history.

Personally from my experience in volunteer organizations, building anything is gonna be a huge challenge regardless of the stated intention of the enterprise. Conflict entrepreneurship has a lot of unpaid interns even out in the normie world. (Just look up the history of Shawsville Rescue Squad and their war with the Elliston Fire Department) Given those challenges I don't think naïve optimism or delusions of grandeur are remotely appropriate. As I've already said, I firmly believe you would need to research the Hell out of where prospective inroads could be made and plan mission statements accordingly. That's not fun or glamorous.

At the end of the day I think it's about how bad you want it and that's pretty much the existential question for whites in general.
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FightenGnome said:
"The fucking Jews won't serve my National Socialist organization pizza. Time to break out the old Swazi and protest in front of their restaurant. No one denies the commander his large pepperoni pie."

Those were the days, a Jew stops your pizza party and you could get a good 20-30 guys out like that to protest in front of their building the next day. Now, a gang of Blacks beat a White kid walking home to death and it takes 3 weeks to get 10 people to show up to protest.

Rockwell can be cartoony to be sure, but he's still doing better than NJP is or I should say was.
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Say what you want about Rockwell, he basically used the "look at me" Nazi aesthetics to gain media attention. He gave speeches at universities, had interviews in newspapers and whatnot. At the time people in the US still believed in Freedom of Speech, so even lefties were like "let the crazy man say his stuff".

At the time the idea was novel, especially for the USA. Simply the whole thing was so over the top people had to check what is it about. If he wasn't co-intelprod (i.e. killed) we would have dropped the whole brown shirt thing.

He has an interesting parallel with Malcom X if you think about it, who was about to drop his more edgy stuff when he was killed. If I recall correctly there were WN and BN talks because both parties just wanted to be left alone. Funnily enough that was the last time the race issues in the US could have been literally talked out. The federal government and the ethnic lawyers thought otherwise.
 
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