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[Spud]

ay caramba this thread has started turning the frogs gay

The frogs were gay from the start

 

[Punished Puck]

"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy." - George Orwell, 1984

Women have always been the biggest enforcers of orthodox thought, it's why fiction like handmaids tale are so laughable, if a theocratic government ever came to the US women would enmasse dive head first into the burkas without any complaint

 

[The Ugly One]

so my choices are

1. cold, calculating gold-digger who will pretend to like me if the price is right
2. nutjob psycho Oxytocin junkie who only fucks complete losers for the adrenaline high

man, this timeline sucks shit

I actually like women just fine. I like them as women rather than expecting them to be men and getting mad when they fail. It's just that in our egalitarian society, if you say that two groups of people aren't exactly the same in every way, that's "hate."

That doesn't do anything about the fact that we have set up every social incentive to reward and celebrate the absolute worst appetites in women and men alike. We used to tell women that being extremely selfish is bad; now we tell them that anyone who tells them not to be selfish is bad. So yeah, it is a million times harder to find a good person now.

 

[Mega Black]

The idea of a woman who loves you back -- my brain cannot even fantasize about the concept anymore. I know, at the end of it, it's always an economic exchange with them they're shrewdly calculating out.

My wife definitely loves me, but with women it is not the same kind of unconditional dedication a man will have. I never like making my wife upset, I never like it when she cries, I always do my best to make sure she is as satisfied as I can make her in any one instance and I've always been that way with all the women I've been with. She isn't the same way. She doesn't go out of her way to hurt me, necessarily, but she can't go out of her way to make sure it never happens. If that makes sense.

My ex described it once as 'I'm my own first concern, then you come after.' And it broke my heart at the time, but I realize that is literally just how their brains work now.

women would enmasse dive head first into the burkas without any complaint

Women are at their core social beings. The thought of moving against the grain is beyond terrifying to them, though they're in love with the idea.

So much of fiction for women is about being a rebel against a tyrannical system, but the rebellion they seek is purely performative and only slanted towards positive social issues that the media tells them is good.

 

[spurggist]

The best thing about being an ugly autist is living life free of women

 

[The Heartthrob]

My wife definitely loves me, but with women it is not the same kind of unconditional dedication a man will have. I never like making my wife upset, I never like it when she cries, I always do my best to make sure she is as satisfied as I can make her in any one instance and I've always been that way with all the women I've been with. She isn't the same way. She doesn't go out of her way to hurt me, necessarily, but she can't go out of her way to make sure it never happens. If that makes sense.

My ex described it once as 'I'm my own first concern, then you come after.' And it broke my heart at the time, but I realize that is literally just how their brains work now.

This sort of reminds me of a video this youtuber ObeseToBeast put out a while back where he said that if you are in a relationship and you lose hundreds of pounds, you're free to break up with your partner who stayed with you at your heaviest. He didn't say that was morally sound, but that you can do that and that there's ultimately nothing really wrong with doing so. And the women that watch him went rabid. The funny thing though is that it didn't seem based so much around a betrayal of their love and dedication on their end, but moreso that they staked their claim on a man and refused to ever be rejected by him. I think even when the sexes have similar concerns on the surface, their individual reasoning tends to be vastly different.

 

[think]

 

[Mega Black]

The funny thing though is that it didn't seem based so much around a betrayal of their love and dedication on their end, but moreso that they staked their claim on a man and refused to ever be rejected by him.

Yeah, they're purely transactional and at the same time feel like their presence alone is enough to warrant loyalty from a man. Women ALWAYS put themselves first, that's what you have to understand. They can be loving and giving but not in the way a man is.

A woman who is fat losing hundreds of pounds then 'upgrading' to a new man is also totally fine for them to do, mind you.

 

[Dean Pentel]

The idea of a woman who loves you back -- my brain cannot even fantasize about the concept anymore. I know, at the end of it, it's always an economic exchange with them they're shrewdly calculating out.

You know dude, I sometimes wonder if women love their concept of the man they're with rather than the actual man. For instance, a man that's highly accomplished is never not very selfish and always has a rather complicated life. Such a man will never be able to commit to women in some profound manner. They'll always be second place in his life, at best.

As an example, I recently found out a female coworker was dating a man that trains at my gym. I've known this man for years now and we've been gym buddies for a good bit. He was nice to her, they had obvious chemistry, but he was very clear about how he wanted it to be casual from the start. He told her he's too busy chasing athletic and business goals to worry committing to anything long-term.

You'd think this nigga took off with one of her kidneys or something given how she wailed about the end of this. It was like 2 months of him telling her to come over, fucking her, kicking her out, and having a meal with her like 4 times. They'd text a bunch but they didn't go on any vacations or even go see movies or anything. Very casual, for sure.

The point of this is that he was not particularly loving to her (though he wasn't ever overtly rude or dismissive), definitely didn't prioritize her in any fashion, and was instead focused on himself and becoming the man he envisions himself to be. And she listened attentively to everything he said and talked about how great she thought he was because he had all these goals he was working towards. None of them included her, but she had this idea of the potential relationship they could have and that's what she fixated on. That's what sold her on the notion of him being The One (for right now).

I write all this to emphasize something I've mentioned before on this site a few times. Forget about love and women and relationships if you're not in one currently. Focus on yourself. Commit to the process of becoming what you want to be. Don't worry about the results, focus only on the work necessary. Always be your primary concern in your life, no matter what. Selfishness gets a bad rap when I've yet to see anyone do anything noteworthy in life without being supremely selfish. It doesn't have to mean a negative outcome, right? A year, maybe 18 months from now, you'll feel better, you'll be far more attractive to the opposite sex, and you'll be better positioned to have a life worth getting out of bed for. A woman will see you doing this and have to wring out her panties.

I'm not actually trying to give out dating or life advice here. I am instead talking about patterns I've seen in life repeatedly.

It's not always economic, it could be an emotional exchange as well, think of all the women who stay with deadbeat losers with no jobs for years

Maybe these guys are so committed to their bullshit it's a similar effect to what I talked about previously in this post. Or maybe women just don't ever make sense.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

Forget about love and women and relationships if you're not in one currently. Focus on yourself. Commit to the process of becoming what you want to be. Don't worry about the results, focus only on the work necessary. Always be your primary concern in your life, no matter what.

this is literally the best advice I've ever seen posted anywhere on the internet ever

 

[MMS-China]

The best thing about being an ugly autist is living life free of women

So what happens if you are a hot autist?

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Yeah, they're purely transactional and at the same time feel like their presence alone is enough to warrant loyalty from a man.

To be completely fair, all relationships are on some level transactional. Nobody wants to participate in a friendship if it's nothing but a one-sided drain. We simply gloss over the transactional portion if the relationship is important enough.

Something something of course life is cold, impersonal, and transactional. Accept the darkness, move on, and layer some love and companionship on top of it. Immutable bad aspects of life get better if you embrace their existence and dodge around their implications, something modern women very rarely do. "What is this, get it out of my way" is the more common approach.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

To be completely fair, all relationships are on some level transactional. Nobody wants to participate in a friendship if it's nothing but a one-sided drain. We simply gloss over the transactional portion if the relationship is important enough.

Something something of course life is cold, impersonal, and transactional. Accept the darkness, move on, and layer some love and companionship on top of it. Immutable bad aspects of life get better if you embrace their existence and dodge around their implications, something modern women very rarely do. "What is this, get it out of my way" is the more common approach.

optimism requires a conscientious, ongoing decision process. anyone with even a modicum of genuine success understands this

 

[spurggist]

So what happens if you are a hot autist?

I wouldnt know.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

I write all this to emphasize something I've mentioned before on this site a few times. Forget about love and women and relationships if you're not in one currently. Focus on yourself. Commit to the process of becoming what you want to be. Don't worry about the results, focus only on the work necessary. Always be your primary concern in your life, no matter what. Selfishness gets a bad rap when I've yet to see anyone do anything noteworthy in life without being supremely selfish. It doesn't have to mean a negative outcome, right? A year, maybe 18 months from now, you'll feel better, you'll be far more attractive to the opposite sex, and you'll be better positioned to have a life worth getting out of bed for. A woman will see you doing this and have to wring out her panties.

This. I think it's difficult for a lot of people, since we live in a culture dominated by the Cult of Niceness and such, so I prefer to call it enlightened or healthy self-interest as opposed to selfishness. You have to put yourself, your needs and wants, first because no one else will. It's not a narcissistic thing, it's just a realistic one. Never set yourself on fire so other people can keep warm. When you've got your shit squared away and prioritized, you'll have more to offer people anyways and be in a better position to offer it to the people that matter to you and deserve it.

 

[anustart76]

So what happens if you are a hot autist?

Does Louis Rossmann count?

 

[Mr Bunny]

You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money.

 

[polonium]

This. I think it's difficult for a lot of people, since we live in a culture dominated by the Cult of Niceness and such, so I prefer to call it enlightened or healthy self-interest as opposed to selfishness. You have to put yourself, your needs and wants, first because no one else will. It's not a narcissistic thing, it's just a realistic one. Never set yourself on fire so other people can keep warm. When you've got your shit squared away and prioritized, you'll have more to offer people anyways and be in a better position to offer it to the people that matter to you and deserve it.

As I see it, the problem is that people associate "self interest" with the boomer style selfishness where you trash your children's future and burn society down so that you can have a few extra years of idle retirement. Once you lift your gaze past the end of your own nose you find that it's in everyone's interest generally to have a cohesive society where people look after each other, and one of the best ways to ensure that is to make sure each individual member is independently strong so that nobody is inherently a drain on society.

People who think that looking after yourself is somehow taking resources away from society have the same short-sighted mindset as commies that want to be looked after by a Daddy Government figure.

 

[MMS-China]

As I see it, the problem is that people associate "self interest" with the boomer style selfishness where you trash your children's future and burn society down so that you can have a few extra years of idle retirement. Once you lift your gaze past the end of your own nose you find that it's in everyone's interest generally to have a cohesive society where people look after each other, and one of the best ways to ensure that is to make sure each individual member is independently strong so that nobody is inherently a drain on society.

Sounds like Communism of some kind. You Westerners would hate that. You are raised on individualism.

 

[The Ugly One]

So much of fiction for women is about being a rebel against a tyrannical system

And everyone just does what they say because they're so amazing, and also they have very plain looks that need no enhancement, but also are very strikingly beautiful in a mysterious way, and the man who is leading the rebellion against the system (although really she is the one who gives him the ideas and motivations for everything) immediately loves her just because she exists and can't really even breathe without her.

A woman who is fat losing hundreds of pounds then 'upgrading' to a new man is also totally fine for them to do, mind you.

I knew a very nice, Christian girl who decided to have a go at the 30+ beauty queen scene. She did quite well, and of course divorced her husband and married a guy who was absolutely yoked.

I write all this to emphasize something I've mentioned before on this site a few times. Forget about love and women and relationships if you're not in one currently. Focus on yourself.

Women want men who don't need them. Your typical woman is also in love with the idea that sex with her is so amazing that once a guy's played around with her vagina a few times, he'll love her madly and need her with him forever.