Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

In almost the same breath, Sven complains that NJP ruined TRS's atmosphere of fun silly podcasting with its requirements for ideological purity, then says Jazzhands had to go because he wasn't immediately full-bore pro-Russian when the war started. Incredible.
His ability to just flip flop on diametrically opposed positions based on which *type* of manipulation he has to employ to avoid personal responsibility + agency is astounding.

Sven blames this person, blames that person, blames his audience, blames you, everyone but himself, but is then shocked, angered and upset when he has 'haters'.

MAYBE, if sven DIDN'T air dirty laundry in public, MAYBE he would not be losing listeners, subscribers and FRIENDS.
MAYBE if sven weren't completely two-faced, throwing decade-long friends under the bus on public livestreams over dumb squabbles, he would stop getting 'haters'.
 
The Northwest Front guy actually got most things right about far right politics he also got things right about religion just stop talking about until we win and then we can argue about it
I agree, it's a toxic subject. People need to understand in politics you need allies, not friends. You have a common foe, you need to push it back. It is okay to otherwise hate each other. Just hate the barbarians at the gate more.

In almost the same breath, Sven complains that NJP ruined TRS's atmosphere of fun silly podcasting with its requirements for ideological purity, then says Jazzhands had to go because he wasn't immediately full-bore pro-Russian when the war started. Incredible.
My cold take is that the only pro-White thing to do is oppose the war entirely.
 
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I'm pretty sure the reason was because red was a striking colour and the flag was designed with the German flag colours under the 2nd Reich. I'd have to look it up but ultimately I don't think it matters. Mike's reasoning years ago was that it was eye catching and they wanted at least 2 colours from the American flag, they just couldn't find a way to make blue work.
This isn't all that accurate either - if you look into it, the nazis effectively designed their ideology to be appealing to people. You can see this in the name - People like Germany and being German, so they were a 'National German' party. At that time, socialist ideas were gathering steam, so they also were a 'Socialist Worker' party. Merge them together, and there you have the party.

The flag is the same way: The Swastika was some kind of cross originally IIRC, and since Christianity was widely adhered to in Germany, they could slot that into their flag. Same goes with the red border which gives socialist vibes, then all the colors next to each other are Black - White - Red, like the old German imperial flag.

In contrast, the NJP from the start was just people wanting to LARP as Hitler, hence why they went for a similar design. It's not trying to appeal to anyone besides themselves.


I agree, it's a toxic subject. People need to understand in politics you need allies, not friends. You have a common foe, you need to push it back. It is okay to otherwise hate each other. Just hate the barbarians at the gate more.
Alt-Right discussions circa 2015-2016 agreed on this, then Trump turned out to be a disappointment. From that point on, everyone who disagreed was always a shill, a fed, a jew, or a CIA psyop derailing the 'moovment'.

You could probably write a university thesis on why the whole thing went tits up, but one of the big ones is that internet shitposters and funnymen aren't fit to be leading anything. It's why every alt right group eventually collapsed in a shitstorm of drama, doxing and pointing fingers that everyone is CIA.

It's funny looking back, really.
 
MAYBE, if sven DIDN'T air dirty laundry in public, MAYBE he would not be losing listeners, subscribers and FRIENDS.
I'm pretty sure most of this happened because of  not airing things in public. The problem is, that when sven/trs/etc.  do address anything publicly, it is always too little too late, and it always is shrouded in resentment, so it's impossible to figure out what parts are spiteful exxagerations. Imagine how much easier of a time they could have had getting rid of the problematic elements of the central committee if they had acted in a way that gave people reasons to trust them. No, they coasted on being "the smartest guys with the best takes, the only serious group for Whites" for way too long and far too many people let that happen.
 
Sven burns more bridges and is infinitely more narcissistic than Ethan Ralph, but this insecure emotional slut gets away with torpedoing all of his friends' hard work because....??????

Because Sven is tall, handsome, and good at the guitar, while Ethan Ralph's cachet imploded once everyone learned he was a fat, drunk, pig-faced manlet with a gunt. Really, all you have to do to come out on top of most situations is not be the fat, weird-looking guy with an alcohol problem and a hilarious diet.
 
The most anyone else can do is have the general population exposed to the information, couch in jokes or w/e and just let it cook.

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Norm was able to get several Jews to play along on camera like Adam Egret, Gilbert Gottfried, and Andy Samberg.
This isn't all that accurate either - if you look into it, the nazis effectively designed their ideology to be appealing to people.
I remember Mike saying that pretending to be Nazis in the current year would be like Nazis wearing tricornered hats. America has a distinct identity and culture that is very different from Germany or Europe in general. Even back in the 1930s when there was a high number of first- and second-generation German immigrants, the American Bund had maybe a few thousand followers to where Hitler himself brushed them aside as irrelevant. You had more Americans who were neutral or thought there were some good ideas with fascism or national socialism but very few took it beyond “Well, Mussolini keeps the trains running on time.”

This is ultimately the challenge of building up any kind of pro-white organization in America. It has to be able to appeal to red blooded white men, whose opinion is typically “fuck off and leave me alone.” That may change as whites become a plurality and eventually a minority but in current year plus eight, life is too comfortable for anyone serious to give up modern standards of living for being radicals. Thats why it’s pathetic yet understandable to be one of those faggots watching niggerball and grilling. They will pretend everything is fine until it starts affecting them personally and then we get to see their shocked pikachu faces when a nigger breaks into his house or sexually assaults his daughter. It’s frustrating as hell but I get it.
 
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In contrast, the NJP from the start was just people wanting to LARP as Hitler, hence why they went for a similar design. It's not trying to appeal to anyone besides themselves.
Isn't the logo basically a pilfered version of the NPD?

Alt-Right discussions circa 2015-2016 agreed on this, then Trump turned out to be a disappointment. From that point on, everyone who disagreed was always a shill, a fed, a jew, or a CIA psyop derailing the 'moovment'.

You could probably write a university thesis on why the whole thing went tits up, but one of the big ones is that internet shitposters and funnymen aren't fit to be leading anything. It's why every alt right group eventually collapsed in a shitstorm of drama, doxing and pointing fingers that everyone is CIA.

It's funny looking back, really.
Well, nobody wanted to admit that they are wrong, so little by little they destroyed their base and built up capital. Something something, one stick of spaghetti breaks easily, a lot of them bounded together breaks harder.
 
It's amazing to me that after all the revelations and drama of the past several weeks, my #1 thought is, "Sven is a gigantic piece of shit." His shittiness has eclipsed Striker being a retarded sperg, Hovater being a loathesome mountain troll, and Warren being a spineless jello mold. NJP collapsing is a massive hit on Mike. Not just professionally, but personally as well. If my close friend and business partner went through something like that, I'd do everything I could to make things easier for them. At the very least I'd keep my mouth shut about any complains I had about the thing from before. But not Sven. Nope, he goes on a fucking victory tour rubbing Mike's face in NJP's ashes and laughing about it. The guy is a spiteful piece of shit, and I will laugh and laugh as more paypigs drop out.
 
Mike's reasoning years ago was that it was eye catching and they wanted at least 2 colours from the American flag, they just couldn't find a way to make blue work.
Amerikaner managed to incorporate blue into their logo and it looks great and Patriotic.
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It's amazing to me that after all the revelations and drama of the past several weeks, my #1 thought is, "Sven is a gigantic piece of shit." His shittiness has eclipsed Striker being a retarded sperg, Hovater being a loathesome mountain troll, and Warren being a spineless jello mold. NJP collapsing is a massive hit on Mike. Not just professionally, but personally as well. If my close friend and business partner went through something like that, I'd do everything I could to make things easier for them. At the very least I'd keep my mouth shut about any complains I had about the thing from before. But not Sven. Nope, he goes on a fucking victory tour rubbing Mike's face in NJP's ashes and laughing about it. The guy is a spiteful piece of shit, and I will laugh and laugh as more paypigs drop out.
He made it clear, this is just a job for him. The problem is that he seems to be a shitty co-worker here. Sure, your friendship has ended with Mike years ago. Okay, but preserving illusion of the chemistry is essential for the podcasts and the fans. All this feminine gossip shit he is doing is very unprofessional.

Is it me or Sven seems to enjoy having Mike by the balls here? NJP seemed to be the alternative business for Mike. That has failed so he only has TRS left and Sven is basically the king of that at the moment.

Could this spiral so bad that Mike leave TRS eventually? What would that look like? Sven and DK co-hosting TDS? lol
 
Tony just dropped more Walltext. Highlights include Warren getting Financially dominated by Sven and the party.

After Strike & Mike ended they wanted to make Warren do a show on Tuesdays with Warren's reward being a pay cut.

Warren must be hella desperate to avoid going back to the AT&T Store.
Weird that Warren is a charity case to Sven, but not Alex, the only guy he's not mad at.
 
Is it me or Sven seems to enjoy having Mike by the balls here? NJP seemed to be the alternative business for Mike. That has failed so he only has TRS left and Sven is basically the king of that at the moment.
For the last several years, they’ve bickered constantly on TDS. They hate each other and they hate that they’re limited to podcasting with each other even more. Jesse has never wanted to do anything resembling activism. Jesse rubbing Mike’s nose in his own shit happened before: after Unite the Right. After Unite the Right, they made a bunch of changes to TRS and hearing it back then on TDS and the 504um, it was entirely due to Sven taking a victory lap and pressing a bunch of demands on Mike, who complied. It’s basically when TRS started walling itself off. I don’t think Jesse ever gave a shit about white nationalism, this is something he just wanted to do for fun but after getting doxed, is stuck with podcasting if he wants a middle class or better standard of living. If back in 2014 they’d have the option of being racist podcasters for a living for the rest of their lives or walk away, every single one of them would’ve walked away.
 
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Weird that Warren is a charity case to Sven, but not Alex, the only guy he's not mad at.
Jesse and Alex go way back together, over ten years, even before he knew Mike. Warren is Striker’s guy, as he got introduced into the TRS milieu by being a frequent guest on Striker’s show, The People’s Square. Jesse has no real connection to him.

Basically Alex is Jesse’s guy and Warren is not. It’s that simple.
 
For the last several years, they’ve bickered constantly on TDS. They hate each other and they hate that they’re limited to podcasting with each other even more. Jesse has never wanted to do anything resembling activism. Jesse rubbing Mike’s nose in his own shit happened before: after Unite the Right. After that they made a bunch of changes to TRS and hearing it then, it was entirely due to Sven taking a victory lap and pressing a bunch of demands on Mike. It’s basically when TRS started walling itself off. I don’t think Jesse ever gave a shit, this is something he just wanted to do for fun but after getting doxed, is stuck with podcasting. If back in 2014 they’d have the option of being racist podcasters for a living or walk away, every single one of them would’ve walked away.
It shows on the product that nobody wants to show up anymore. TDS was not fun for years now. I don't even remember which was the last one I listened to in full. Stuff simply was low energy and let's be real, you cannot make lighthearted and fun content in the doom and gloom of the post-Election era. TDS worked best in the early days when it seemed like there was a proper pushback against the excesses of the Obama era.

Sure I am shitposting in this thread, but I literally have no podcast to listen to from their network anymore. TDS was full of ads to get on the paywall when I tried to listen a few months ago. There is no FTN, Strike and Mike are nuked. All the niche shows cancelled or chased away. I think there is still a place and need for deep dive ideas. The Finkle think and reactance ideas were pretty dope. I really enjoyed the brief window where they tried to understand the system better. Especially since the Stormer turned into an unreadable and unfunny "hello fellow trad cath zomers" thing.

I still remember le based stickman and how antifa was losing a street battle or two. With the push in the universities trying to push free speech and the Trump campaign it seemed like something was going on. So it was really easier to make a fun podcast when there were wins to be celebrated. But now? In 2014 even normal troons were a rarity, now the stuff is being pushed at kids. Migration is turned up to 11.

It's really a dark fate if we think about it. They were basically 4chan-ish trolls who just funposted online. They basically grew out of it and are forced to still do this. I guess thanks for the memories and past entertainment. I am just glad to know I never gave them a single penny.
 
After Unite the Right, they made a bunch of changes to TRS and hearing it back then on TDS and the 504um, it was entirely due to Sven taking a victory lap and pressing a bunch of demands on Mike, who complied. It’s basically when TRS started walling itself off.
If you guys can find some of this older stuff and post it, I'd be thankful, curious to listen to what they had to say. I mostly ignored them in that era, my only contact with American WN back then was with some bloodsports happened, fights around race etc.
Also curious about Jazzhands. Highly suspicious disappearance and refusal to talk about him from TRS. Jazzhands was spergy, but also the funniest of them IMO.
 
If you guys can find some of this older stuff and post it, I'd be thankful, curious to listen to what they had to say.

This fellow has archived every dead show of TRS. He probably has every episode of TDS but won't upload them until they are defunct (he was doing this live on /pol/ for SM a few weeks ago).


You may be able to find something around that time that may interest you from the other shows that the TDS guys would have been on. However good luck there's 10's of thousands of hours of shows to sift through.
 
It shows on the product that nobody wants to show up anymore. TDS was not fun for years now.
I agree. Six years ago there was something good to listen to on TRS every day. When Strike and Mike got canceled, there was nothing left worth listening to. I was a paypig when the paywall got introduced in 2018 but TRS declined so rapidly that I had no urge to renew. I admit I thought Warren was going to be a good kick in the ass to the spiraling network but he turned out to be a midwit.
If you guys can find some of this older stuff and post it, I'd be thankful, curious to listen to what they had to say. I mostly ignored them in that era, my only contact with American WN back then was with some bloodsports happened, fights around race etc.
The 504um went down without it being archived so a lot of discussion about Sven’s demands are gone. Basically Mike admitted that he was not in a position to challenge Jesse and acquiesced. In terms of TDS episodes, there are several but the standout one about this issue was where they covered the cuckbox breaking. Mike was in favor of working with the TWP and Jesse was not. This episode was a big victory lap for Sven.
 
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