Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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When globohomo goals of Ukraine and scrapping perfectly functional vehicles collide.
It's funny how much these types talk about the "international community" and "rouge states," while doing things like this. Article 7 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which the UK did sign on to, forbids ex post facto criminalization. It also violates article 15 of the ICCPR which the UK is also a signatory of.

Nimiaque illa libertas et populis et privatis in nimiam servitutem cadit
This excessive liberty soon brings the people, collectively and individually, to an excessive servitude
~Cicero
 
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Expect more furious but impotent rages in the coming weeks.

The Ukraine is in the last stage of its denouement; a nation that which at one time reveled in their NATO trained and equipped army, whose sole purpose was to fight Russia, and claimed to be the the true leaders of the Slavic world. The Ukraine has had to rebuild this army three times. There will not be a fourth yet they stubbornly cling to the hope the US and NATO will ride in to save them and defeat their enemy: Russia.

The West will not, simply because they can not. The failed counter-offensive, like the famous battle of Kursk decades ago, proved that the Ukraine and NATO cannot win a war against Russia.

Recall that after the Battle of Kursk, which made it clear the Reich had lost in the East, it still took the Red Army two more years to siege Berlin and unfurl the Victory Banner over the Reichstag. The Ukrops has never hidden their love and affinity for Germany's National Socialists, even claiming to be Aryan Übermenschen (if you have not seen an obvious Turco-Mongol say so unironically you have missed out on one of the more hilarious moments of this war).

The Ukraine is re-enacting the fall of the Third Reich. It is only the beginning of their end. And, I am sorry to say, it confirms the West, particularly the US, is in definite decline. A Götterdämmerung, to use a language Ukrops understand. But renewal and a better world comes after the Ragnarök, so it eventually it will improve.
 
Citation please, you disgusting faggot pedophile
Sorry, looks like I was wrong. The Ukraine is near the very bottom, above only Bulgaria (large Muslim population), Macedonia (even larger Muslim population), and Albania. An IQ in the mid-80s is equivalent to black people in the 1980s who grew up with lots of exposure to lead paint and gasoline that was common in the inner city.

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This study is biased and inflates the average Turkish IQ since it was done by Turks but clearly shows that Turkey's average IQ is held down by the southeastern part of the country which is dominated by ethnic Kurds (who are around 15% of Turkey's population). So we can safely assume that should 85 be the true average IQ of Turkey, the average Turkish IQ is going to be around 87-89 meaning "smarter than the average Ukrainian", and probably smarter than you.

Oh yeah, it's also equivalent to the average black IQ in the 1980s i.e. blacks who grew up around lead paint (banned only in 1978) and leaded gasoline (mitigated with mandatory catalytic converters in cars in 1975, banned 1996). It is well-known that blacks have elevated levels of lead in their blood because they were more likely to be exposed from living in polluted cities and in shitty housing projects which used lead paint.

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Right, and I'm saying that you don't need to spend a single cent, kopek, dinar or whatever else. The so-called elites in the West... well they don't do it for free, but they don't need encouragement from the outside. If you're thinking of the whole "muh Russian trolls" thing that mainstream media have been blaming literally everything on since 2015 - that's just a cope.
Not just a cope, the "muh Russian trolls" narrative is literal information warfare being waged against the citizens of the West on behalf of the US government. It's literal government-promoted conspiracy theories to discredit Trump and every other populist.
 
He allegedly didn't. According to one source he's alive and treated in the hospital.

And I think those were flashbangs.
Some more supposed details of the incident. Looks like it was an argument over the budget.


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Also, I'm pretty sure those aren't flashbangs. If you freeze-frame it, you can see a UZRGM fuse sticking out of his hand. Those little pops at the beginning of the video are the sound of the fuses being initiated.

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This, alone, doesn't tell us what type of grenade it is, since UZRGMs are used as the fuse on a whole bunch of different types. F1s, RG-42s, RGD-5s, and so on. We need to see the profile of the grenade body to know.

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Capsule-shaped. As expected, those are not flashbangs. Those are RGD-5 fragmentation grenades. Because the grenades rolled under the seat rows, I'm guessing most people in the room suffered lower extremity injuries, with their feet and calves chock-full of shrapnel.

 
Now hold on there, buster. Ukraine technically didn't surrender "its" nukes.

The nukes were Soviet, they didn't even had the codes to launch any of them. What they had was a lot of warheads they could have sold or used themselves to make dirty bombs.
They didn't even have that. I was around when the Cold War ended; at all times the custody of ex-USSR nukes was with Russian Strategic Rocket Forces. The big concern was that a lawless state or a warlord from a CIS country would sell the nukes to terrorists who would then make a dirty bomb. The Budapest Memorandum was a financial bribe wrapped up in legalese that gave Ukraine literally nothing extra that any other state did not have, the alternative being that they would not have gotten any money and the nukes and Kravchuk would swiftly have been removed from his post by both NATO and the RF.
TL:DR: Ukraine gave up nothing because it never had it to give up, not the PALs, not the warheads, nothing.
 
In other non-AIDS news Germany sent an entire Patriot battery to Ukraine. It was blown up on arrival outside of Kiev yesterday with what's purportedly $1 BILLION worth of ammo. Roughly one full year's worth of production?


Awaiting better confirmation.
Hehehe NAFO-tards assured everyone that Russian hypersonics were a myth and were totally ineffective.
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Everyone is waiting for confirmation still? Huh.
They're waiting for NAFO-tards to confirm....
I'd like better confirmation than pro-Russian social media. I don't expect Kiev to announce it but if this is true it's big enough to warrant some official non-denial denials, etc... That would represent like 2% of the value of all US AID delivered to date? And it was blown up before even being unpacked with weapons that no defense exists against? And we're arguing about sending more billions to these clowns?
Ukraine would NEVER admit to such a massive fuck up, at least immediately.
I totally believe it happened but the news will gain zero traction as long as only pro-Russia Telegram is reporting it. A loss of this magnitude should be huge news. It'll be undeniable if air defenses are degraded enough that Russia starts sending masses of the cheap suicide drones that get through.

There is another, mostly him talking about it but he's not dismissing it either.

He also had great videos on Russian microchips and the Russian defense industrial complex


 
Article finally calling to question the retarded Dnipro crossing operation:

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In the case of the Dnipro, President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine and other officials have suggested recently that the marines have gained a foothold on the eastern bank. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted a statement last month claiming they had established several strongholds.

But marines and soldiers who have been there say these accounts overstate the case.
“There are no positions. There is no such thing as an observation post or position,” said Oleksiy. “It is impossible to gain a foothold there. It’s impossible to move equipment there.”
“It’s not even a fight for survival,” he added. “It’s a suicide mission.”
 
What is the fixation with this bridge? I've read that Russia had no problem supplying Crimea before it was even built and it isn't used for military supply now. They've hit the thing several times and it's never been more than a mild inconvenience.
It's the Mt. Everest of gay ops.

It means nothing to the supply situation as the Russians are widening roads and building rail lines throughout Zaphorhizia.


Does this man dethrone Uncle Marv?

Pretty compelling performance, IMHO.
 
The operations on the Dnipro never made much sense. They seemed to have been originally planned to have happened in conjunction with a successful offensive further east. Rather than reconsidering the operation based on the lack of success at Robotyne, they seemed to decide to just do it for the sake of doing it.
Contrary to the New York Times article, there was no hope of any advance doing any harm to Russian supply lines in the area. Because of course the area is at the western end of the Russian positions in the south. Its at the end of the supply lines.
The managed to get a couple battalions work of men over the river at Krynky. But they can't concentrate force because the supply of everything comes by boat. They also can't protect the area of the river crossing enough to do anything other than boat supply. The Ukrainians created a sort of kill-box for themselves in Krynky. They can't advance and they get hit by fire from three sides.
I think the reason that the articles have started appearing is that with the winter weather, things went from bad in the positions along the Dnipro to unsurvivable. Its too cold and wet to do much of anything.
They should have pulled back across the Dnipro several weeks ago. But the dedication of the Ukrainians to killing their own men wouldn't allow it. The other story commonly told is that the training of Ukrainian Marines no longer includes teaching them how to swim.
 
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Expect more furious but impotent rages in the coming weeks.

The Ukraine is in the last stage of its denouement; a nation that which at one time reveled in their NATO trained and equipped army, whose sole purpose was to fight Russia, and claimed to be the the true leaders of the Slavic world. The Ukraine has had to rebuild this army three times. There will not be a fourth yet they stubbornly cling to the hope the US and NATO will ride in to save them and defeat their enemy: Russia.

The West will not, simply because they can not. The failed counter-offensive, like the famous battle of Kursk decades ago, proved that the Ukraine and NATO cannot win a war against Russia.

Recall that after the Battle of Kursk, which made it clear the Reich had lost in the East, it still took the Red Army two more years to siege Berlin and unfurl the Victory Banner over the Reichstag. The Ukrops has never hidden their love and affinity for Germany's National Socialists, even claiming to be Aryan Übermenschen (if you have not seen an obvious Turco-Mongol say so unironically you have missed out on one of the more hilarious moments of this war).

The Ukraine is re-enacting the fall of the Third Reich. It is only the beginning of their end. And, I am sorry to say, it confirms the West, particularly the US, is in definite decline. A Götterdämmerung, to use a language Ukrops understand. But renewal and a better world comes after the Ragnarök, so it eventually it will improve.
Have you noticed the absolute assiduous avoidance of any media or politician using the word "defeat". If they admit to a defeat it means Russia won and they are terrified of it.
 
To point out how fucking deranged the Krynky operation is, there is a single river inlet that allows the Ukrainians access to the town. Speedboats have to haul ass up this winding river network, in pitch black lighting conditions, against FLIR equipped FPV drones and Lancets just to make it to the town to deposit or withdraw troops. There was a point in time where a small skirmish raid like this would have been worthwhile during the summer offensive to frustrate and pin Russian reserve troops into dealing with them, but that opportunity is long over and like all Ukrainian military operations, they've long outlived their purpose or usefulness and its become mere political grandstanding instead of reasoned military thinking.

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There's a thread on the hohol grenade terrorist [wapo article; one victim has now died, the terrorist is alive and getting treated] in A&N but it's apparently a duplicate, so imma poast here.

Western Z autists on xitter are discussing the future of drone insurgencies and the need for anti-drone defense in peacetime cities everywhere in the world.
But I'm a wamen, I'm more interested in this:

Here's Arestovych's xitter post on the matter:
Google translated and edited for clarity + dewokenized for your convenience
- When I said six months ago in an interview with Dmitry Gordon that mandatory psychological rehabilitation is necessary for the entire society, especially for the soldiers of the Defense Forces, I remember that all sorts of wonderful people en masse stood in our favorite national pose - offended.)

So how?

What is characteristic is that he is a deputy from the ruling Servant of the People party.

According to information that requires clarification, he served in the 128th brigade, got crippled, and had to fight [the bureaucracy] to get social security, including for himself.

They didn’t want to listen to him, he found a way to attract attention to himself.

Let me remind you that at the end of the war, thousands of morally exhausted drone operators will return.

And you can’t escape from a FPV even in a car.

This is the price for the loss of meaning and dignity.

It will get worse, and worse, and worse again, until this meaning is found and we regain our dignity.

- Когда я полгода назад в интервью с Дмитрием Гордоном сказал, что необходима обязательная психологическая реабилитация всему обществу, особенно, бойцам Сил обороны, помнится, всякие дивные люди массово встали в нашу любимую национальную позу - обиженных.)

Ну как?

Что характерно - депутат от правящей партии «Слуга народа».

По данным, требующим уточнения, служил в 128 бригаде, получил инвалидность, пробивал социальную помощь, в том числе и себе.

Его не захотели слушать, он нашел способ привлечь к себе внимание.

Напоминаю, что в конце войны вернутся тысячи размотанных морально операторов дронов.

А от FPV и на машине уже не убежишь.

Это - цена за утерю смысла и достоинства.

Будет хуже, и хуже, и снова хуже, пока этот смысл не будет найден и мы не вернем себе достоинство.

Arestovych is a terrorist who demands money to be distributed to grifting "therapists" for "psychological rehabilitation" and threatens drone attacks if his demands aren't met.

Why not, instead, pay crippled hohol soldiers the tugboats they are already entitled to?
 
Sorry, looks like I was wrong. The Ukraine is near the very bottom, above only Bulgaria (large Muslim population), Macedonia (even larger Muslim population), and Albania. An IQ in the mid-80s is equivalent to black people in the 1980s who grew up with lots of exposure to lead paint and gasoline that was common in the inner city.
I hate hohols but this data is garbage and you should feel dumb.
"based on past studies (adjusted for the Flynn effect) and recent assessments"
This isn't a real study, they just made shit up.
(also, if they had to "adjust for the Flynn effect", the data is stale and mass migration to Western Yurop isn't reflected in it)

Here are recent PIRLS (reading, 4th grade) and TIMSS (math and science, 4th and 8th grades) (TIMSS 2023 won't be out until 2024). Hohols sadly aren't included, but see how hard France is getting enriched.
 
To point out how fucking deranged the Krynky operation is, there is a single river inlet that allows the Ukrainians access to the town. Speedboats have to haul ass up this winding river network, in pitch black lighting conditions, against FLIR equipped FPV drones and Lancets just to make it to the town to deposit or withdraw troops. There was a point in time where a small skirmish raid like this would have been worthwhile during the summer offensive to frustrate and pin Russian reserve troops into dealing with them, but that opportunity is long over and like all Ukrainian military operations, they've long outlived their purpose or usefulness and its become mere political grandstanding instead of reasoned military thinking.

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General Staff Directorate For Gay Ops seems to have access to all the finite and precious resources in the AFU's possession.
 
I hope someone shoves a grenade firmly up Zelensky's ass and pulls the pin.

Just get this shit show over with already. Take him out and get to peace talks to salvage whats left.
Not going to happen anytime soon. The goal is specifically to make this mess last as long as possible and kill as many people as possible.

Remember, before this whole thing started Ukies and Russians and Belorussians and everyone else in the area were considered to be the same type of subhuman trash by the western elites. The narrative only changed when Ukies were firmly persuaded that they are the Übermensch post 2013 coup and they became legally distinct slavs called "the good ones".

Russians and Ukrainians are genetically identical, as far as everyone else is concerned Russia is turning its own manpower into minced meat be they Ukie or Rus and that is, as we've learned during the past year, "best money we've ever spent".
 
When Ukraine officially surrender and hand half of their country over to Russia, while importing millions of brownoids and faggots, will the other thread apologise for being wrong?

Will the posters who threw tantrums about how "ukraine will win, putin is using shovels, no ammo and will be dead by cancer in two weeks derp", be called out?
Can we give them special symbols like the pedo-fags have the pink triangle?
 
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