Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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There is a crisis of diagnostics in psychiatry, to the point that diagnoses are almost rendered useless. And the discourse just get dumber and dumber because concurrent with diagnosis inflation there are so many vocal activists who push the idea that doctors are not there to diagnose but to validate. And many doctors love that shit, it’s great to be the doc everyone loves even if “no, you don’t have DID, you muppet” should be the default response. It’s mine.

I hear rumblings, though. Maybe there is a new paradigm on the horizon.
 
I get that psychs don't want to tell BPDs that they're BPD, but I don't understand how they can convincingly claim its CPTSD unless the patient also has a long history of trauma. like actual fear for life over a protracted period.

It should be very obvious that it's not CPTSD if you do EMDR and ART, which anecdotally can transform a CPTSD sufferer from totally unfunctioning to able to live a relatively normal life. They aren't a cure, but addressing the trauma component reduces the impact of the disorder on the patient. presumably BPDs wouldn't get the same level of benefit, though it might help a bit. But if they are offered therapy for BPD, not CPTSD, wouldn't they figure out their psych is lying with one second of googling. So I don't see the point.
 
like actual fear for life over a protracted period.
From my understanding of C-PTSD it doesn’t have to be incidents where you literally feel like your life is endangered. It could be from bullying, having abusive parents or witnessing your parents abuse each other, being in an emotionally abusive relationship, being groomed, trafficked, a POW…the list goes on. It’s more of a concept that there are ‘little t’ traumas and ‘big T’ traumas. Little t traumas are ones that, provided they’re only experienced once or twice, a healthy individual might overcome without psychological damage. Big T traumas almost always fuck you up because they involve major incidents that are more commonly understood to cause PTSD, like war combat or rape. The problem is that if you experience enough little t’s over time without feeling like you can reasonably escape the situation, they add up to a Big T.

So with BPDs the condition is almost always due to trauma, now that trauma may or may not be drastic. Child molestation is definitely Big T and can cause BPD, but so can mild parental neglect. Most BPDs are going to have some comorbid trauma stuff, so I feel that some psychs want to address that instead of confronting the monster head on, so to speak.

I would go out on a limb and say that C-PTSD is probably just as common in high functioning autists and ADHD sufferers, however. Their conditions make childhood less than pleasant.
 
From my understanding of C-PTSD it doesn’t have to be incidents where you literally feel like your life is endangered. It could be from bullying, having abusive parents or witnessing your parents abuse each other, being in an emotionally abusive relationship, being groomed, trafficked, a POW…the list goes on.
I think there has to be some symptoms of PTSD, but yes I was slightly hyperbolic saying your life has to be endangered, your list pretty much agrees with the one here.

It’s more of a concept that there are ‘little t’ traumas and ‘big T’ traumas. Little t traumas are ones that, provided they’re only experienced once or twice, a healthy individual might overcome without psychological damage. Big T traumas almost always fuck you up because they involve major incidents that are more commonly understood to cause PTSD, like war combat or rape. The problem is that if you experience enough little t’s over time without feeling like you can reasonably escape the situation, they add up to a Big T.
This makes complete sense and I've heard this theory before, but I'm not really sure you can call it a form of PTSD unless it actually produces they symptoms of PTSD, i.e. flashbacks, hyper-alertness, nightmares etc. I've heard the little Ts amalgamating into a big T from addiction treatment professionals who have clients that don't have an obvious massive trauma causing their problems but had continuous difficulties in their childhood. I don't know, am not a psychology professional or anything, but it feels qualitatively different.

For example, I was bullied relentlessly for a long time, I had a friend who at the same age was sexually abused by his father. I was nowhere near as fucked up as him and to diagnose us with the same condition due to the long term impacts of our experiences, which vary significantly, seems absurd.

I would go out on a limb and say that C-PTSD is probably just as common in high functioning autists and ADHD sufferers, however. Their conditions make childhood less than pleasant.
That makes total sense, especially if undiagnosed or with parents who just don't understand or can't be arsed to try and accommodate.

I do think that EMDR could be really helpful for people with little Ts, cos it is reprogramming the brain and I don't think (again, not an expert) its efficacy depends on how traumatic the events the patient is trying to process are.

There is possibly a kinda trauma spectrum. I dunno, its fun to speculate about, have done some reading around the area and it seems very poorly understood. I do think there is now an overfocus on trauma and things that just aren't traumatic, but slightly uncomfortable, get labelled as trauma and can cause psychosomatic symptoms in susceptible people.
 
As for CPTSD, not an expert but… AFAIK know, the role of a therapist is to support the patient and assume that whatever they say is true.

So if some BPD broad is sitting and telling them how her boyfriend is an abusive asshole for not letting her have sex with whomever she wants, the therapists role is to affirm that and say: “It sounds like you felt abused, that must have made you feel bad!”
 
Christmas greetings from the worst people on Twitter!

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Haven't read this article yet, but its basis appears to be that social media created Long Covid.

Abstract:
"Patients collectively made Long Covid – and cognate term ‘Long-haul Covid’ – in the first months of the
pandemic. Patients, many with initially ‘mild’ illness, used various kinds of evidence and advocacy to demonstrate
a longer, more complex course of illness than laid out in initial reports from Wuhan. Long Covid has a
strong claim to be the first illness created through patients finding one another on Twitter: it moved from patients,
through various media, to formal clinical and policy channels in just a few months. This initial mapping of
Long Covid – by two patients with this illness – focuses on actors in the UK and USA and demonstrates how
patients marshalled epistemic authority. Patient knowledge needs to be incorporated into how COVID-19 is
conceptualised, researched, and treated."
 

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Looked through the article. If I read it correctly its’s a little different in content than what I got from the abstract - it’s more of a “health care professionals were slow to accept what patients were describing” take where the authors seem to accept the illness as “real”. And they keep quoting that dunce Ed Yong.

Still a good exploration of social contagion, though, even if that wasn’t the authors’ intention! Good find!

ETA: Oops, it’s right there in the abstract that the authors are “two patients with this illness”. Shame on me.
 
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Yep. The problem with the "put the phone down and touch grass" line is no one else will. You've deleted your tiktok and decided you're going to pick up gardening and painting instead? Great!
And if you want help with those non-online hobbies, the easiest place to get advice... Is online.
There seems to be a large amount of overlap between the behavioral symptoms of BPD, ADHD, and autism. People with clinical symptoms of autism and ADHD presenting trauma responses end up getting misdiagnosed with BPD more often than they should, and vice versa.
Thats me! Untreated ADHD, and other stuff made my emotional dysregulation bad as a teen. So, I was slapped with the BPD label and put on mood stabilizers.

But no, I'm just ADHD and autistic.
 
Day nine. Just when I’m really having fun again, Keffals and Elliot Fong-Jones took my internet playground out of commission. I spent the whole outage rage-archiving. I was one of the Debbie Downers who thought we were really going to be knocked off the internet for good and I figured if we ever came up again, I was gonna celebrate with as many posts as I could, and it was going to be whatever nostalgic favorite or drive-by weirdo sparked joy, fuck anyone else’s opinion.

Nine tubes a-feedin’
Eight tilites a-rollin’
Seven bouts of sepsis
Six go-fund-mes
Five golden retrievers
Four superfluous prayers
Three mini-strokes
Two central lines
And a pancreatic enzyme cartridge in a pear tree

The humor here is not lost on me, that the ones I archived during the first time we were being dilated by Elliot Fong-Jones are going up during the current dilation session. I wrote that intro back on 29 November when I was trying to figure out what the pacing would be for these posts. I don't know if I'll get these all online before Christmas. If clearnet holds out for me I will. Maybe I'll give uploading on Tor another shot if it doesn't. But does it really matter? If I have to still be doing this in July i'll just make a joke about how it's my 12 months of christmas now. I'll even keep Thursday October Christian in his santa hat!

Needless to say I will not be posting too close to the actual holiday because I'll be enjoying that time with my family, cooking them a meal made with love (and unethical amounts of butter) and watching on as the kids tear into their presents with reckless greed like holly jolly hyenas on a gazelle carcass. After, the kids will play with their new toys and the adults will sit around drinking wine and playing cards, laughing until our sides hurt and just happy to be together for another year.

And that's something Elliot "Consent Accident" Fong-Jones will never, ever know. Cope, seethe, dilate, YWNBAW.

Jordan Asbee dba jordansjourneyy / jordan.asbee fka jarsforstars
Timeline 1, 2
Gymnast to munchie pipeline with a pediatric cancer fetish. Had no plan B for if her hobby level gymnastics and mediocre grades did not land her on the UMich gymnastics team and their nursing program. Starved herself to a feeding tube and TPN then got enormously fat after a bunch of suicide tantrums landed her in a psych hospital for months and prescribed a cocktail of medications, after which her entire social media presence became humiliation porn. Regularly posts herself crying, documents that she needs a gallon of bowel prep to take a shit, and uses intentionally bad angles that show off her double chins, rolls, and acne. Is on a diet of chick-fil-a and starbucks. Lives in complete filth – I’m talking her bed is buried in dirty laundry and fast food wrappers filth. Wants to be a pediatrics nurse but fakes sick too often to go to school. World’s worst lip syncher.

Jordan spent most of January humiliating herself on the internet while waiting for her Make-a-Wish.
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(this is apparently how I felt about these clips at the time)
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She finally got her Make-A-Wish and it was a night with Colleen Ballinger (after the grooming accusations but slightly before she made that terrible toxic gossip video) and Jojo Siwa. I can’t imagine wanting to be in the same room as these people. Apparently Jojo was a surprise guest; she’s IRL friends with Colleen and just happened to be hanging around so Jordan got to meet her too. So to review, this is an obese woman who claims she can't eat and needs a feeding tube before she starves to death, hanging out with a thin woman who was dodging accusations that she has anorexia by saying she eats so much food off-camera.
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Still just going to Disneyland.
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And tilting her head all the time while she eyefucks herself in the viewfinder and points her index finger for some reason.
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A reminder of what Jordan looked like at the start of this.
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On 15 February getting a nerve study on her hand and arm and a port consult but the hospital has no power so everything’s pushed back.


She has got to be fucking trolling with these angles right?
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This generation is not okay guys. I don’t know how to help them. I just know I don’t trust them to flip a burger without having a mental breakdown.


Oh no, she’s only 20. Your tits should not be riding sidesaddle at 20.
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She started claiming her GP was flaring and she vomited constantly.
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March she got a new port.
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...okay well, I guess with how often these girls take their aesthetic legs-in-the-bathtub pics one of them was gonna have to go the extra mile and tiktok herself in the shower. I just wish it was one of the less … jordan-y ones.


PURGING THROUGH YOUR FEEDING TUBE IS ONLY OKAY WHEN I DO IT.


Was it worth it? I wonder if she’s still claiming she’s in straight sizes. For the longest time, even after she blew up like a tick on an old dog, she was still claiming to wear a size 6-8.
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This is the content I’m having to watch for you. Dozens of reels of her being completely unable to lipsync, tilting her head, glasses slid down her greasy nose and you can kind of tell that if you were in the room her mouth would be making those unpleasant pasty sounds.


VANITY SALT WATER AND VITAMIN INFUSIONS ARE ONLY OKAY WHEN I DO IT.


No Heather, she’s that kind of celiac where gluten is fine.
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Her chin roll is fascinating. I’m mostly just posting this because her speech is so weird. She’s almost out of breath from speaking, heavily mouthbreathing and like, sucking in the air as she tries to clean her face and speak at the same time. It sounds almost like her tongue is too big for her mouth or something. Her fun facts are that she did orthokeratology for her astigmatism but she’s getting lasix surgery now, she wants to be a pediatric ICU nurse, five of her pets have died in the last year while she was hospitalized, and she really loves her family.

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She has some sort of VNS thing that clips to her ear and then works with a TENs unit for nausea and anxiety. Sounds like woo but I don’t care enough to look into it. She did not used to sound like her mouth was glued shut.


End of march she has an NJ tube again. Yanno, because she’s positively wasting away.
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I hate how these girls have made me view sexual abuse claims with suspicion because they use them for ticky-tock clicks while they lipsync.
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Her tube is out but it’ll be back soon. As you can see from her many neck rolls and giant coffees, she is in desperate need of jejunal feeding.
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She gets her new tube and…
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Right back to disney.
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People would like to know how she talked someone into this. She rants about how another GP warrior’s comment cut her down even more because how do you of all people not get that Jordan is dying of malnutrition?
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Her nj flipped out of her jejunum into her stomach and now she’s gonna staaarve. It’s replaced the next day.
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So she can go back to disney, of course.
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Here’s the filth Jordan lives in. Chick-fil-a wrappers on the bed, dirty laundry everywhere, old fast food and starbucks cups on the desk, bags of candy and nuts and empty feeding tube formula cartons all over the place…


Documenting every minute of her surgery like a normal person, and every video she makes about it has this dramatic music clip that goes “how rare and beautiful it is to just exist.” It’s just to remove a fucking ganglion cyst lmao
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God I love how these girls who have multiple social media accounts dedicated to their “illnesses” think these trends even remotely apply to them. You just turned a ganglion cyst excision into like 25 tiktoks.


Right back to Disney.
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In late May she’s in the hospital again because her NJ flipped.
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Almost right away they start her on TPN again “until they can come up with a plan.” Holy fuck who are these doctors?
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On the 30th, on another terrible lip sync video where she barely contains her smile, she tells us she spiked a fever and it might be sepsis.
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It is.
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There’s a mass in her chest and they don’t know if it’s endocarditis or a clot.
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It’s a clot. Between that and the infection she has to have her port removed, but she’s getting a GJ so it’s all good.
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Here's the post about this whole adventure from insta
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She's gotten a new tube and the nurse brings her starbies. How is this fat fuck convincing anyone she needs a tube or TPN?
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Feeding tube in a sea of belly fat with all those chin rolls, never ceases to amuse.
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She can never keep the slight smile from her face in these attention-seeking videos, no matter how sad she’s trying to look


Celebrating the diagnosis of a terrible disease just like real sick people do. One of my favorite things to do with TPN Jordan is scope out her backgrounds because there’s almost always some food or food detritus in the frame, like the pudding cups on her tray.
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I also like this weight gain journey she took me on.
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Turns 21 in the hospital.
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LMAO muh mast cell and gastroparesis-friendly pistachios
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I’m about to say something very fat. I immediately recognized this…
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was a box of brown sugar Poptarts.
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After a break, she gets her line replaced. Ready to go home.
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home for a day then readmitted
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I thought it was a fat roll. It is not. Again, you are 21 years old. Your tits should not be riding side saddle.
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Uses anxiephylaxis to stay hospitalized.
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CHEMO!!!! for her mcas and getting her k-hole on like the cool girls.
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mmmm still not buying this story for some reason. Like if it was just this story fine, but she made so many tiktoks where she’d be lipsyncing some pop song and smiling with the caption “to the CNA that SA me!!!” I don’t know enough about the process in her state (California) to know if they’d even put an 18 year old in 5 points for an "attempt" unless she was absolutely out of control banging her head and shit.


She showed a pic of her hand in this wrist cuff thing and in the context of her constantly talking about her sui-tantrums and how she was in restraints in the hospital I thought thats what she was showing. It never really made sense because if that's restraints then why does she even have her phone and a free hand to take this photo? So now I'm thinking I was actually wrong when I wrote this and that this is some kind of no-no-don't-touch-that hand immobilizing board to keep her from fucking with her line.
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She made nine more attempts to kill herself. Thank god she did not succeed! I really believe these were serious attempts and not attention seeking!
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She’s being discharged after 50 days and mommy and daddy surprise her with Tay Swift tickets.
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Discharged delayed.
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The little girls who live next door to me were outside singing that “It’s me, hi, I’m the problem” song by Swift when I went to work the other day. I waved at them and said they sounded good. I got home and they had made me bracelets with those lyrics spelled out in letter beads and I am now the proud owner of Tay Swift friendship bracelets made by ~9 year olds. I thought it was fucking adorable and a random act of kid, showed all my friends. I was unaware that there is a whole culture of adult women making themselves and each other Tay Swift lyrics bracelets until just now. And now I wonder how many of my friends think I was coming out as a closet Swiftie. (Probably not many given that this and this is the shit i listen to.)
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She’s about to be discharged again so she rips out her feeding tube “accidentally”
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She keeps doing this…
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And my brain keeps doing this.
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After 50 days of malingering she’s finally discharged.
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Creamy, Delicious Kate Farms Pediatric Enteral Formula (unflavored). Try it as a sourdough starter!
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From what I can see we got kpins, celexa, imitrex, mesinon (Myasthinia gravis drug sometimes used for POTS), famotidine, and benadryl.


Woo, another look at her trash heap where she keeps Honey Nut Cheerios on the bed and half-eaten bowls of it all over the place.


Four days home and she’s back for another infection, more pistachios and what looks like one of those yogurt cups that has granola and other goodies in the lid for you to add in.
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Discharged, right back at Disney. This chick she's with traveled to meet her. She is not very interesting, just another gymnast-to-munchie, albeit one who was much better at gymnastics than Jordan. She doesn't post much. Her dog is from Canine Companions though so at least there's that.
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Oh god. THEY HAVE BAGS OF STOMACH JUICE CLIPPED TO THEIR FUCKING SHIRTS.
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Also wow, way to just yank on your dog’s neck with no warning when he’s tied to your waist with a martingale. I can imagine doing this by accident, like assuming the dog would pick up the direction change and run with you. I can’t imagine it going wrong like this and still uploading it.


The day the friend leaves…
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...Jordan’s tube breaks again.
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She gets it replaced and she needs a new stoma, I guess. Honey baby girl child, did you rip your whole tube out with the balloon still inflated?
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Home in time for Tay-Tay!!!!
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Nope. Instead of going to the concert she goes back to the ER and gets herself admitted again so all the swifties will tag the queen trying to get Jordan a private audience. Gambled and lost, Tay never acknowledges her.
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Third surgery.
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Here she screams that she’s only fat because prednisone. Okay I’ll autism that.


First of all, whether it’s steroids or not the fact that she got THIS fat that fast means she eats just fine. Steroids are brutal, redistribute your fat, and make you retain water like crazy but if you’re still not eating you’re not going to magically gain a shitload of weight from them. Look at Cheyanne mid-liver failure saga, huge moon face but she’s still very thin because she really couldn’t eat at that point. If she tried her intestines ulcerated and almost killed her.
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Or a non-munchie example Sarah Hyland from the show Modern Family who has kidney dysplasia. She had to be on tons of pred because her donor kidney was rejecting, but she had end stage renal disease w/ cachexia so she lost weight everywhere else. She was trying to keep the disease a secret but went public after her swollen face and plummeting weight got her accused of bulimia. (Sarah’s a fuckin trooper, she filmed a whole season of her tv program around her dialysis schedule, half of it while also dealing with gout so painful she had to use crutches off-camera. As soon as she was done filming a scene she had to lay down because of the fatigue. And no one watching from their sofas knew.)
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But that brings me to the second point which is Jordan doesn’t really have the steroid look to me. I know Taylor is an extreme example (and dead now because of it.)
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But I found this random tiktoker who needed steroids for a short-term illness. There’s only a few weeks between these shots. She looks like she’s storing acorns for the coming winter. Dose is a factor here as this person needed a very high one, but still.
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Look at Brynn who is fat as fuck from long-term steroids but still has that distinctly moon-like, cheek-heavy, lateral widening of the face, not just Jordan’s overall mass cultivation. All these women’s chins end up looking almost marionette-ish from how swollen their cheeks are.
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And the final point is just the lore. In mid-2019 she got her first PICC for TPN while at Miller Children’s Hospital in Long Beach, CA. After that she developed a tremor and some difficulties with motor control. The PICC was removed but the tremors and weakness continued and about a year after it started she was diagnosed with radial nerve palsy from the first PICC and started PT/OT for it.
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In August 2020, weeks after she aged out of pediatrics and the enabling doctor that was signing off on all her shit, she was hospitalized at Torrance Memorial with dangerously low potassium with new neuromuscular issues that did not resolve when the potassium issue was fixed. She started losing sensation in her legs, having difficulty swallowing and urinating, and having spells where she’d lock up and be unresponsive, in addition to constant “anaphylaxis”. She got transferred to Cedars-Sinai where she was worked up for a possible brain tumor and then discharged with “no answers and worsening symptoms.” She started describing this as “the worst hospitalization of my life” because of how badly she claims she was treated while there and much, much later admit they diagnosed her FND and shipped her out. Two days after discharge she called her enabling peds doctor begging for pain meds and got admitted to Children’s Hospital LA where she was first treated for gallstones, then went septic.
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For weeks after that she was running to ERs trying to get admitted for broken feeding tubes, pain management, “anaphylaxis”, urinary retention, and whatever else she could think of.
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On January 14 she was admitted for unknown reason and discharged two days later. Still looking her normal healthy weight.
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January 19th is when the first “suicide attempt” happened and started a long series of psych hospitals and residential stays.
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When she returned to the internet three months later, she looked like this.
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And was saying she was on two medications that help her symptoms but cause weight gain, and she also gained weight because they took her tube away (lol). She didn’t mention specifically what they were, but given the context that her weight gain started in psych, I’m pretty confident Jordan’s weight gain was caused by some psych meds giving her the hungries, probably antipsychotics after she wouldn’t stop throwing suicide tantrums.


After this the weight truly packed on in mid-2021 when she found a new enabling doctor who let her restart her tube feeds and go on pain meds.
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And the balloonening really happened when that doctor decided a morbidly obese woman who shows up to appointments with venti frapps needed TPN.
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Again whether it’s steroids or antipsychotics doesn’t really matter because while both certainly fuck over attempts to keep to your diet, it’s mostly because they make you feel hungry and crave carbs and sugar like yanno, her starbies, bags of candy, pop tarts, and boxes of sugar cereal. If Jordan really couldn’t eat like she claims she wouldn’t be gaining this much weight from either medication because she’d been getting the correct amount of nutrition from her TPN. Cry more, fatty.

That was a lot of words to say LOL FAT. She's using anaphylaxis to stay hospitalized again.
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For some fucking reason, she’s back on TPN. This Abb lady in the comments has real problems. She was paralyzed from the neck down in a car accident with so little remaining function that she uses a breath controls on her power chair. Early in the year she went into respiratory failure and as she is not a candidate for a transplant she is now terminal.
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And she has sepsis. Already.
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They check her for endocarditis but it’s just a clot. Feeling deja vu? I had to go back and check dates on things because I knew I’d already written this.
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It just never stops making me giggle. Feeding tube and TPN sepsis-noodle in a hamplanet who shows off the pudding cups and hot choccy she keeps on her hospital tray. She’s not even pretending she can’t eat. Discharged.
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Another admit a few days later for yet another infection from her line.
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And again we’re doing a TEE to make sure it’s not endocarditis
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Back home, back to fake-crying on tiktok for attention. This time it’s because her dog died. Her dog died years ago, mind you. IIRC caught canine influenza while at a boarding kennel, it progressed to pnuemonia after they got him to the vet ER, and he died the day Jordan was supposed to come retrieve him.
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Super severe anemia in a munchie with a port on blood thinners. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Most recently she's back in the hospital with pneumonia. They had to put an IJ line into one of her neck rolls. Three days ago she had thoracentesis to remove the fluid from around her lungs. Stupid games. Prizes to follow?
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I love when one is so prolific she gets her own post. Warms the very cockles of my heart.
 
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So now I'm thinking I was actually wrong when I wrote this and that this is some kind of no-no-don't-touch-that hand immobilizing board to keep her from fucking with her line.
No, trust your instincts. 100% that is a Posey "soft limb holder." I am as certain of this as you are of Pop-Tarts.
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Hypotheticals: her sitter or her nurse are lax/tired of her. She asked someone else to take the photo. Her restraints were removed previously but left tied to the bed (common) and she put one back for the picture. She has a single wrist restraint but it's per patient request so she doesn't pull her tube "in her sleep." That last one just needs documentation that the patient requested it and was showed how to release it, so it's not a restraint.
 
Fucking hell, Jordan is giving Beefany a run for her money these days.

How the fuck do the nurses keep a straight face tending to a TPN dressing when she's sitting there with half-eaten pudding cups and pop tarts like right fucking there next to her? Is she deliberately infecting the line, or just going back home to that shit-pit and inadvertently inevitably picking up whatever bacteria is festering in her bed? I have so many questions.
 
@Kate Farms Shill, about what you said about the next gen not being okay- don't worry, I've noticed a weird but fairly even split. Half are like these bitches, the other half honestly grow much too fast. There are so many young teens at like 14 that want to skip childhood altogether and get a job as soon as possible. Legit saw this with at least 5.
I'm more worried we're (millenial and gen X) will be viewed with double the contempt we have for boomers. It's gonna be a shitshow.
 
Am I uploading on Tor out of sheer defiance because the DNS workaround is not working for me? Yes I fucking am. At least it's working reasonably fast this time around.

Dear Liz Fong-Jones of Honeycomb.io,

I hope you live every day knowing that every person walking down the street knows exactly what you are: a sexual predator. Even if they've never met you, even if they've never seen this forum, even if they don't know about the "consent accidents," even if they've never heard your name or laid eyes on you before. They can tell just by looking at you, the grotesque parody of a woman so addicted to his fetish he decided to live it out full time and force them to participate. They may be afraid to speak up now but every day that passes, every person who says they're done protecting your kind, makes others braver and one day you won't be able to silence them anymore. You can spend millions of dollars and hundreds of man-hours trying to take this forum down, but you can't stop the pendulum from swinging. You have an expiration date and it's coming.

Merry Christmas!
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Day 10: Continuing the content I archived during downtime because honestly, I didn't expect Jordan to have been that fun and now my pacing is all thrown off. Nicole had been a long-time favorite from the Jaquie era and the rest were just unfortunate enough to catch my eye. Then I decided to tackle the abusive “service dog programs” cropping up to supply these girls with emotionally damaged dogs for their Disney trips.

Ten collars a-zappin’
Nine tubes a-feedin’
Eight tilites a-rollin’
Seven bouts of sepsis
Six go-fund-mes
Five golden retrievers
Four superfluous prayers
Three mini-strokes
Two central lines
And a pancreatic enzyme cartridge in a pear tree

Nicole P. / itsapotsielifeforme
Timeline 1, 2 (big thank you to my friend who sent me all these because her account is private)
OG Jaquie clone with over a dozen bouts of sepsis under her belt, stagnates in her parents house while lamenting her increasing age. For years she posted about how teehee everyone thinks I’m so young because I’m teeny tiny! Now she’s steroid-bloated with blood sugar problems, approaching 30, and still unemployed with no education. Gets called out by doctors all the time and constantly screams about gaslighting and medical PTSD.

Nurses continue to call out her fake anaphylaxis and say she doesn’t need to be on the drug cocktail she’s getting.
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Her surgeons are “gently preparing” her to need a spinal fusion for CCI now that she’s had tethered cord surgery already.
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Her old feeding tube stoma won’t close and leaks stomach juice all over her so now she’s yeasty.
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She needs to get it surgically closed but now her new one is developing buried balloon syndrome, which means the balloon holding the tube in place is being pulled tightly which makes it compress and erode the inside of her stomach. usually happens in our girls when they get their cute lil' measured button but then gain weight. If the new stoma fails they have no more options for placement.
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And her hickman site is leaking pus.
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Oh no it’s that kid that I swear is being by-proxied, the one who started on high dose steroids with Afrin at like 9 years old and was friends with Cheyanne, Brynn, and Denae. She's a teenager now and her whole childhood was spent under Afrin's care on high dose steroids with no signs anything is slowing down. Another adult using her own lies to validate whatever is going on with this poor kid. If you needed other examples of why I don’t think corticosteroids is what made Jordan pork up, the kid in the blue shirt has that same distinctly wide, cheek-heavy look that the other steroid girls have, including the ventiloquist dummy chin..
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Her old stoma is closed surgically. They had to remove a ton of dead tissue that’s been soaking in corrosive stomach juices for almost a year. It still might form a fistula that will have to be closed again.
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Hospital time is social time!
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Cheyanne's dead
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She’s in her cousin’s wedding but her health was too bad to do anything but show up and make a scene. Still stress-dosing steroids and almost doesn’t make a total scene. Hair loss lookin great. But the bride looks lovely, at least.
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Still getting anesthesia for basic tube changes because of her “medical PTSD” and trauma.
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Her untethered cord retethered itself. She’s getting another surgery for this and considering whether she also wants a fusion. Well Nicole, perhaps you should look at all the other girls in your little spoonie club who have undergone this procedure first... nah, go right ahead. Hope your spine doesn't collapse, I guess.
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Amanda Pape fka geneticlly_bendy
timeline nested in part 1 of Nicole’s
Postmortem. Mother of two who starved herself to death while an audience of spoonies cheered her on. Entire life was tragic. Her father skidaddled. Her mother committed suicide when she was very young; she found the body. Her sister is severely disabled and lives in a care home. Her kid was constantly ending up in juvenile detention. She tried to find community in church then switched to finding it in munchie hugboxes. Mental health took a nose dive when her “service dog” died suddenly. Ana-bragged about running nothing but water with Himalayan salt through her feeding tube. Full circle, her kids found her dead in her bed just like she found her own mother.

I found her facebook and it just made me sad. She was stuck in this myspace era, glittery font overlay, Dani Marina existence.
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The only new info it gave me was that she was e-friends with Cheyanne and Vic.
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Valerie Webb / chronic.life.of.val:
timeline here
Former high level competition gymnast and winner of the Arthur Ashe courage Award. Her gymnastics coach John Geddart pushed his students until their spines were fucked, then his pedo friend Dr. Larry Nasser sexually assaulted them under the guise of treatment for these injuries. She had to undergo multiple back surgeries to fix the damage done to her. She also has a pituitary tumor that is probably actually causing health problems and requires steroids to treat. Despite this, chose to skinwalk Jaquie with zebra diagnoses, an untrained golden retriever service dog, ports and tubes and wheelchairs she never needed.

Nothing new to report. She’s getting married and using her wheelchair much more consistently because she hates being told she doesn't look sick. She has lost most of the steroid weight.
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I forgot her birthday was on Rare Disease Day. That's mildly interesting
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Still pretending her golden with minimal obedience training is a true 'n' honest service dog but seems to go out without him the majority of the time.
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Abby Looman / blazin_banjos.servicedogs:
Timeline here
Paige-like basketcase whose mother kept a blog that told us all the things Abby didn’t want us to know. Former bodybuilder and wannabe police officer. Claimed MALS and kept demanding more surgery and pain meds for it. Hellbent on sabotaging every single possible treatment other than the most radical of surgeries and TPN. Constantly demanded pain medications. Once apparently partially slid a PICC out of her arm, tied a knot in it, then slid it back in. Former IRL friends with Val until Val accused her of faking and keeping herself sick.

Changed her insta handle to les.bia.honest and never makes grid posts anymore. Every time I check in she’s just posting stud-y mirror selfies in stories I don't bother saving. Fine, I’ll believe this one actually digs chicks. I was on the fence forever and thought it was just more attention-seeking shit she’d get bored of really fast. But FUUUUCK I FOUND HER TIKTOK LAST NIGHT. God dammit. Thankfully it’s not that interesting. This is Banjo, her 10 year old reactive and super prey-driven rescue “service dog” that she adopted at 5 and didn’t start “training” until he was a senior and should have been already retired.
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She was still pretending she was going to get back to work and hobbies any day now.
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If only her illness hadn't stopped her she'd be a sworn officer / body building champion / racing legend!
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Muh mentulzing, because on tiktok absolutely anything is proof that you have any mental illness.


The voice on the lil pooner in this one made me laugh a lot, thank u.


Five sepsises in 10 months has given her a false sense of grandeur and importance.


LMAO girl this is a paint by number kit. They're fine, I enjoy doing them myself, but it's totally mindless bullshit you barely have to pay attention to and she's trying to pass it off as original art.
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This is also obviously one just based on the flat quality and blocks of unblended color. There's services that will turn your family photos/pets/whatever into a paint by number canvas. They make cute gifts for people who are so inclined.
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I was wondering when she was going to show me her titties. TBH, I’m not mad about it.
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You know it.
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Getting surgery, doesn’t say what.
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This is Blaze, the dog that is going to replace Banjo as the service dog that provides no service.
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I was wondering why Abby was still single given what the dating pool is like for lesbians her age and then I remembered it’s because she’s totally batshit “I will ruin your life and blame you for it” insane and advertises herself as such.
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Banjo’s retired finally.
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Her head is completely covered in bandages but she won’t say why.
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Most of what she posts these days is just her being sad about animals.
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Mazzy Noriega / mazzys_journey_to_healing fka chronicallymaz:
timeline 1, 2
Liver transplant patient turned zebra munchie. Keeps getting diagnosed with Crohns disease, aplastic anemia, gastroparesis, and all sorts of other things that are invariably un-diagnosed by other doctors while she wails those doctors are wrong. Almost all of her problems can be more easily chalked up to the heavy-duty anti-rejection drugs she has to take for her transplant. Openly admit she stopped taking her motility medication because it was making her hungry and used supplements to decrease her appetite instead. For the last two years she’s been suckerpunching her transplant with TPN/draining her anti-rejection meds out of her stomach and being told if she doesn’t stop she will fucking die.

Years after she was put on TPN she finally decides to restrict herself only to consuming extra liquids on top of it and not also eating food.
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Of course, she purges everything. Every sip of water gets drained out of her tube because even hours later it’s still in her stomach. X. She’s getting pyloric botox to hopefully help her motility. She’s also getting iron infusions again because of her anti-rejection drugs. She’s miserable in ways you can’t even imagine.
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Next post, creamy coffee drink to purge. Her doctors are desperately trying to get her off the TPN before he transplant dies. Botox soon then trying to get her to be compliant with motility drugs again. She got a new central line placed.
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Botox! They’re going to start drip feeding her into her g-tube to see how it goes and then decrease her TPN. New GES to follow soon.
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Turns 22 and I see hostageface runs in the family. GES shows the botox didn’t work and her motility is worse since she started sucking every drop of water she consumes out of her stomach and stopping herself up with every anticholinergic she can get her sticky hands on. They’re now considering gastric bypass surgery. I googled this and it sounds like this is only a thing if you have beetus-related GP and you are already pursuing weight loss surgery or weight loss will improve the underlying cause of the GP, but I might be wrong.
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She posts a duckface selfie to say she got the smartpill back and basically everything from her mouth to her poop chute is broken now. They will not be doing the gastric bypass because it’ll probably just make shit even worse. Even tiny bits of feed into her j-tube aren’t working out because of how badly she’s fucked up her digestive system.
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They’re doing something called fecal bionics. Man when did bionics go from “we can rebuild him, we have the technology” to “let’s figure out why this chick on instagram can’t poop”? She might get a pylorotomy that will leave the bottom sphincter of her stomach open all the time and/or a gastric stimulator but otherwise shes out of options. #fecaloutletdisorder.
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She got the new and improved medical buttplug test and this time she could shit it out! Her doctors are now thinking she's not as dire as they once believed and that doing pelvic floor therapy again can work if she actually commits and fucking does it.
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She posts a lot in stories but I never watch. She graduated college this weekend, though.
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Ah, one of my favorite accounts I have ever found. Developed (real) CRPS after ankle surgery age 12 and successfully went to cognitive behavioral therapy-based pain rehabilitation for it. Fell into sicksta spoonie shit when her disease relapsed a year later. Became IRL friends with Mazzy bonding by chasing spoonie diagnoses together. Both of them ended up in the children’s medical behavioral unit at the same time but Mazzy aged out and found compliant doctors in the adult world and her friend had to stay behind getting treated for her eating disorder. Occasionally had moments where she would speak candidly about how she was afraid to get better because she didn’t know who she was without the illness anymore or she felt like she’d spent so much time “sick” that there was no chance to move on and get back to the life she wanted. At 16 she was accepted to Mayo Clinic’s pain rehabilitation program with a promise that if it really didn’t work they’d do a GI workup on her. The day before she left she had a come-to-Jesus about this opportunity she was being offered and decided to put in the work. Now she preaches the gospel of CBT-based pain management strategies and criticizes the role social media played in her illness.

Sicksta still stands as it was with a message about how CBT for pain works and how even if you don’t think your mental health is affecting your physical health, it is. On her personals, she’s looking healthy and happy at college. The kid’s gonna make it. I made the decision to only describe her in text and not to post the archive, photos, or her real name. Right now it’s all online and public to show people what she went through and how she got out of it but of all the people I’ve written about? She’s moving on with her life and I think she deserves to not have Kiwifarms pop up next to her LinkedIn on a google search. I found her fascinating but I’m not a monster.

Jamie Bruce / zebrajemma:
Timelines 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, man she was a real gem.
Jehomosexual’s Witness who wanted to be a famous J-pop or K-pop star despite being a homely-looking American girl with an overbite. Systematically destroyed several joints in her body through overstretching and dancing on existing injuries, requiring multiple reconstructions. After a knee reconstruction she started claiming CRPS and completely refused to do any PT or weight-bearing exercise until she lost all muscle and bone mass in the affected leg, all because her new identity was going to be “wheelchair dancer” and she needed to find a way to get the chair. Wore her immobilizer tight enough to do actual nerve damage. Slid into all the other zebra diagnoses along the way. TPN fed, refused to eat most foods because MCAS or gastroparesis or whatever her current excuse was. Lied about getting open abdominal MALS surgery because she could not get the surgery without agreeing to accept a blood transfusion if she needed one. Dumb as a fucking post but tries to hide it with big words. Every miracle cure her doctors find fails predictably. Recently claimed to have genetically confirmed osteogenesis imperfecta, dentogenesis imperfecta, and EDS despite many many injuries not resulting in any broken bone and no dental problems ever reported. The one time she did break something it was an intentional fracture during knee reconstruction.

You ever read a post and just go “aww, she’s talking about me!” I knew she was at least aware of my posts because her youtube and insta went private while I was preparing the last parts. She learned she didn’t need to post everything about her health and she could set boundaries. A few things I liked about this: 1) she admits I got this all the material I used from what she posted publicly, which she was dumb for posting. 2) This is how you correctly whine about having been posted on Kiwifarms without drawing attention to what I actually said, thus exposing yourself. If I saw this posted and I had no prior contact with her account I’d think it was intra-munchie drama bullshit from this backstabbing community of vipers and that I’d probably never found who posted about her/shouldn’t bother trying. Compare to Kiley who straight up told people to google her full name to see what I had to say about her which is a very bad and not-good idea.
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I think she at least read what I had to say, because one of the points I kept making was how funny it was that she frequently claimed she didn't regret the knee surgery or it was somehow worth it to have gotten it. If you believe her (you shouldn't), before the knee surgery she only had manageable pain and was able to dance, then she claimed it caused CRPS and she spent the rest of her life in constant, burning, gnawing pain and could no longer move her leg without pain. Even a sheet brushing it was agony. I found this exceptionally funny because any normal person who went into a surgery with manageable pain and the ability to do high-intensity dance practices and came out with lifelong excruciating pain that is almost unendurable and makes walking completely impossible would understand that there was no silver lining here. But because Jamie was never in the pain she claimed to be and this whole story arc was just an excuse to get in a wheelchair after her Jpop/Kpop dancing career didn't take off, it was worth it to her because she got her shiny wheelchair prize and could cuddle up in Chelsie Hill's vagina. Jamie has now, after acknowledging she read my posts, started to say that this surgery totes ruined her life and there was no silver lining to it. But they adjusted her spinal stim settings again after months of saying that surgery also failed and she was in as much pain as she had been before they attempted it. Now she has a marked reduction in her pain and is back in PT trying to work hard to get back to her life.
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Of course, like all things with her, this is temporary, because if she admits the pain isn't bad and she can do PT then she might have to give her shiny wheelchair prize up.
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After gaining to a healthy weight she was removed from TPN and her j-feeds but allowed to keep her g-tube for some reason; she claims it’s to manage GERD (to drain her stomach acid I guess) and give herself medications, but if she has no problem swallowing or digesting food she should be able to just pop pills like us normies.
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She finally got the chair refitted recently. Originally she claimed she needed an absurd degree of “dump” (the angle of the back of the chair to the seat) to keep her hips stable. In reality, dump is to shift the center of balance back for people who have limited trunk control and under any other circumstances it’s a disadvantage as evidenced by the fact that every time she tried to do a wheelie she tipped backwards (but didn’t break anything). Also there's steps going into her house. Very accessible, def a choice someone who really needed a chair would make.
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Her house actually has a lot of stairs per tiktok.
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After holding her peepee for years she got a mitrofanoff procedure and because of all her previous surgeries they had to do a modified version that used part of her intestine as the conduit instead of her appendix as is the usual method (monti procedure). For a while she had a suprapubic until the Monti healed and then she was able to cath into the new conduit. They originally tried to do this laproscopic but had to do open. Wonder if she signed off on blood transfusions for this one. She's in a shitload of pain because she's "allergic" to anything they'd possibly be willing to send her home with.
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She spent all of June in the hospital for this. Whoever brought bucket hats back from the dead needs to be drug out into the street and shot.
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After a long break she comes back in October to report she's been having "horrid new symptoms" and is unable to care for herself at home now so she's been in the hospital. She's not sharing details yet but it sounds like she had sepsis/repeated infections from the mitranoff.
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What's funny is her dance friend keeps blowing up her dramatics by tagging her in videos showing she was carrying on like normal for most of the time.
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And by the end of november she was doing competitions
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Also she’s claiming pancreatic insufficiency still, according to a story post I caught. She doesn’t really save her stories so I’m sure I miss a lot due to lack of interest.
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As of six days ago she was in the ER, because even Jehootentoot munchies understand the social media hugbox value of being hospitalized on christmas.
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Chloe O’Sullivan / alice.explores.wonderland:
Timeline here
Florida woman who needs a service dog for POTS and Disney photo ops. 100% of her life accomplishments revolve around being an RA at her college dorms. Basically was just posted as a springboard to talk about other people/a segue between my old Florida set and the new ones I had planned.

She graduated with her masters in hall monitoring in May.
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She’s now a professional hall monitor at University of Central Florida.
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Alice turned 5.
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In August she announced she has tethered cord and is seeing ‘the best [neurosurgeon] in the country for treating TCS and CCI for people with EDS.’ Get that Henderson spine butchery gorl.
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She finally shows us Alice’s tasks and they’re all retrieval tricks to like getting her gatorade or picking up shoes off the floor.
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In her bio Chloe lets us know she’s got a central line and now claims MCAS and Eosinophilic Esophagitis. Whatever munchie. Give up the goods.
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Elisabeth Bise / kenyapluskuzco:
Timeline here
Child of exceptionally wealthy Swiss bankers, grew up on Grand Cayman with an incredible sense of entitlement and an addiction to social media. Her father was murdered, leading to the family’s dirty laundry to be aired in the tiny island they lived on including his homosexuality, casual sex partners, and drug use. Immediately after the trial she started complaining of stomach pains, migraines, and other issues that were obviously anxiety. Regularly jets all over the world for medical treatments and luxury trips. Got MALS surgery because she can’t eat despite being obese. Exposed the scam organization she got her service dog from causing funny haha drama time. I posted her because the org she got the dog from was one of my targets but then I never posted the scam org because I got too tired of watching good dogs get abused.

Posted two pics of her dog in February and nothing since then.
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On her personal she makes posts about her father still.
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She’s active in stories and still just running to pain management clinics and ERs for ketamine infusions all the time.
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She and her sister got VIP tix to Tay swift. Not much else to say about her. From what I can tell her mom bought a house in Winter Park, Colorado and lets her live there while Mom splits time between there and Grand Cayman.
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Mel Lucas / paradigm.canines:
Timeline 1, 2, 3
Mel the fat butch dog trainer. Trevino patient. At the start of her account she was admitting her problems were all fat-related joint issues, hormone imbalances, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease before suddenly announcing she had the skinny princess zebra diseases. Morbidly obese “gastroparesis” munchie who destroyed her colon with opiates so hard she needed multiple ostomies and almost died from complications. Causes drama everywhere she goes. Never stops talking about her shitbag. Burns out all her dogs with brutal training and competition schedules then discards them and buys a new one.

Still showing off her shitbag at any opportunity.


And maintaining her usual training and competition schedule while claiming to be super disabled and unable to do anything.
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My kingdom for this video clip dubbed over with fat tuba sounds


Mel really likes to remind you she shits in a bag.
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Surgery huh? Sounds serious.
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LMAO MUH GASTROPARESIS GASTRIC SLEEVE WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY.
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Social media is scary.
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She has a peristoma hernia. Her colon “fell out” of her abdominal wall and is now trapped between the wall and her belly fat. She has to lose weight because if not she’ll keep herniating her remaining pooper out of her gut wall. She’s at the doctor and feels she’s about to do a number 2 in her bag but oop. Because of the hernia the bag didn’t seal and she shit all over herself which made her instinctively reach down and grab at it. Then she has a handful of her own doodoo gravy and throws it on the floor but it doesn’t get on her dog.
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In November she says she’s down 130 lbs total from her Godric days. Remember when she was a gastroparesis munchie and the weight loss was unintentional, scary, and she desperately needed a feeding tube because of malnutrition? Kate Farms remembers.
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If she’s still on instagram I didn’t find her but also I didn’t look too hard.

Hayden Williams / dropsie.potsie:
Timeline 1, 2, 3
Hilarious helmeted genderperson with Lhasa Apso “service dog” that did nothing and was replaced by an extremely anxious great dane with trick dog titles. Failed twin sister of a conventionally attractive, smart, stable, and successful brother. Wore a helmet everywhere she went and filmed herself going down like a sack of hammers all the time. Runs to the ER once a week for fun. Keeps getting sent to BPD therapy but is now claiming it was autism the whole time. Hayden was posted entirely because Elliot knocked the forum off clearnet during pride month and I wanted to mock a gender person.

She’s long-distance dating that other girl with the great dane who runs her service dog gear shop. There’s something very funny to me about all these munchies in their hugboxes “dating” each other long distance.
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Still just getting trick titles for her dog.
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Dog has a little bug. Vet says he’s fine and can keep working.
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She touches grass and continues to only use the wheelchair when it’s convenient to do so. Otherwise she’s fine to walk around, crouch down on one knee, and hike without it.
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She makes it a whole year since her last hospitalization, when bad negligent nurse infected her line and gave her sepsis. Hoping to make it another year on the outside!
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Proof of life from Max, the first dog she swore was a true n’ honest service dog.
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That hospital pic must have made her itchy because on the 6th she posted that she’s admitted for “confusion and memory loss” and they already ran an EEG that showed nothing. She’s waiting to see what her MRI and bloodwork show.
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Discharged because there’s nothing wrong. She maybe has a mild UTI but that’s probably not what was causing her mysterious condition. They send her home with antibiotics and tell her to follow up with a her GP.
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Fuck that. She goes back to the ER where she spends 12 hours to get no more answers about her new cognitive issues. She forgets where she is, what she’s doing, and can’t complete sentences. She feels angry and alone and confused and frightened. She’s going to see her PCP on Monday. She’s worried about early-onset dementia. Lol, you should be. Luckily for her I don’t think she’s actually testosteroned herself to dementia yet.
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If she updated it was in a story post I missed because I CBA to keep up on any of these girls’ daily bitchings. I did catch this list of sick burns to use against normal people trying to figure out what the fuck you are.
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There is a lot of woo woo nonsense bullshit I could pick apart here. I'll spare y'all cause this is not a thread about hair - But the statement that I simply cannot abide is that this is her first experience with hair coloring.

BITCH, PLEASE! WE CAN SEE YOUR ROOTS LIKE 2 DOZEN TIMES BEFORE THIS! Anyone with eyes that function can see that cheap boxed blonde coming from 3 blocks away! You've got the nerve to act like you care about all this other made up bullshit when you've been soaking your head in Revlon for years - and now you're trying to convince anyone that you naturally have light brown roots with brass colored hair. Sure thing, boo. Makes total sense.

Okay one catty hair sperg and I'll stfu about this: She probably used paper instead of foils (also "paper foils" is nonsense you faux trad retard) because she was afraid her hair was going to melt from all the $5 walmart special she's been putting in there. Paper doesn't insulate like aluminum so the heat generated from the chemical reaction taking place is dissipated.

I sure hope this girl's husband is marginally less stupid than her or that poor baby... I shudder to think.
 
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