Total Retard War: Lessons of War - Taking the tactics of Honeycomb.io's Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones and making them available to everyone.

[François de Braquemont]

My guy... I don't think they're going to arrest you for a comment, that's 1A man

just don't travel or be in any country that has anything to do with English.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I don't understand how people can spend so much time trying to fuck with this website. Literally anything you can say about this site is true for any major social media site.

The crux of the complaint isn't about muh nazis or muh racism or anything similar. Instead it's a very personal issue for LFJ and keffals and other degenerate faggots because KF documents their past misdeeds, rapes, grifts, fraud, porn and more, all of which are either self-published/self-admitted or discovered by kiwis using legal means, and we keep them here to laugh at. Null has published the email Brickface sends to ISPs, you can go read it. It's not about da alt rite, it's about him.

Yeah other sites host plenty of "transphobia" and other imaginary offenses but all it takes to get them taken down is a single whiny report to jannies that anyone can make. But when you want your confession to rape taken off the Farms, you'd best be ready to spend hundreds of thousands and break the law again in the process.

 

[DrNow]

Does anyone have any experience with exodus wallet? Is that safe to transfer from?

 

[dustbuster]

Does anyone have any experience with exodus wallet? Is that safe to transfer from?

Assume any crypto wallet is as unsafe as handing a rando cash in person.
Plan accordingly.

 

[Pee Cola]

I could be late and gay (I've been busy touching grass today)... but it crossed my mind that Cogent's biggest problem with KF might not be purely ideological.

Dave (((Schaeffer))) obviously likes his money, and anything that gets in the way of his money is a problem. Given that he owns a large stake in Cogent (albeit not as much as he did previously), anything that is a drain on Cogent's purse strings is going to be a problem for him.

The ongoing DDoS attacks against KF need bandwidth to happen. Bandwidth costs money to provide, and DDoS attacks chew up a lot of bandwidth for no benefit whatsoever.

If the DDoS attacks subside, Cogent won't need to buy or rent more of the shit they need to provide the bandwidth demanded by its customers (i.e. equipment, transit, data center space etc).
The only way the DDoS attacks will subside (in Dave's mind at least) is if KF is shoah'ed off the clearnet.

LFJ's cabal is bigger than it looks; he has everything ranging from grunts in Discord taking orders to send out complaints to a fully fledged PR department feeding propaganda to sympathetic (((MSM))) outlets. Because he loves what he does, LFJ also gets his hands dirty by personally attending to his early morning Girl Talks.

Another thing to consider: given Cogent's position as one of the world's largest Tier 1 ISPs, I have no doubt that Schaffer has contacts across all sorts of industries, such as cyber security and Three Letter Agencies.

My hypothesis is that the current theatre of Total Retard War is the result of three significant parties colliding (or is that colluding?).

tl;dr: In the Total Retard War, there's a non-zero chance that Null is fighting an Axis of Evil made up of Schaeffer, LFJ and Papa Janke.

Time to dig deep and do what we can for the war effort, frens.

 

[literalwho?]

Just as Hanukkah ends, who would'va thonk.

 

[Crypto Six Gorillionaire]

I AM NULL'S STRONGEST RETARD

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

Does anyone have any experience with exodus wallet? Is that safe to transfer from?

If you don't own the private key it isn't safe. If you do own it, worst case scenario you get b& and can restore the wallet locally using the private key.
I don't use exodus but it seems to be a local wallet with extra steps marketed towards normies so it should be fine.

 

[DrNow]

If you don't own the private key it isn't safe. If you do own it, worst case scenario you get b& and can restore the wallet locally using the private key.
I don't use exodus but it seems to be a local wallet with extra steps marketed towards normies so it should be fine.

I have a fifteen word phrase thing that I’ve used to view my crypto on two different wallets, I’m guessing that’s what that is? I made a point of moving away from coinbase.

 

[The Connected Nose]

youtubers: louis rossman, mental outlaw, seytonic, coldfusion - all cover tech stuff and might be open to giving you a voice if done properly. the reputation of the farms might be in the dirt but that's irrelevant, it's a US legal website and if you hammer that enough you might turn some heads.

Ayy @larossmann would you be down for an interview with our Dear Leader? Seems like "Big Tech company with a personal vendetta breaks the internet to silence someone they don't like" would be right up your alley.

Does the upcoming re-implementation of Net Neutrality work to our benefit in this situation in any way?

If it's anything like the last time there was "Net Neutrality", absolutely not. They weasel-worded it to hell and back to be about "lawful" content, which is a separate definition from "legal." The former means "explicitly allowed by law", while the latter means "not prohibited by law."

Something can be legal, but still not lawful. So if that's the wording used, it would pretty much allow open season on us and sites like us. Because while we're 100% legal, we wouldn't be "lawful."

I wonder if Dave Schaeffer, Brian Royce, and Mike Leber ever visited Epstein Island.

I wonder if the (supposed) upcoming release of "the list" contains any of those names, and that's why they're helping....?

While that is a option, a long term solution would be finding someone that is already a tranny but still has a dick, has a spine, and we don't hate but is a vocal voice in their community. No infiltration needed at that point

Taftaj...?

My guy... I don't think they're going to arrest you for a comment, that's 1A man

It's not about the comment, it's about the comment going into their internal ticketing system. That would be "unauthorized access" (even though they left it publicly indexed). Like if someone left their door unlocked and you went in their house and took a shit on their carpet. Sure, they left the door open, but you still weren't supposed to be in there.

KUSK employs Akiva Cohen

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

and it would be fun to see who could come up with best and most memorable domains/themes and to watch them rise and fall.

JacindasBirdWatchers? Or perhaps NewZealandAvianAgriculture?

 

[BMO_]

@Null is it possible to ask DPRK for kiwifarms.kp?

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I have a fifteen word phrase thing that I’ve used to view my crypto on two different wallets, I’m guessing that’s what that is? I made a point of moving away from coinbase.

It's basically what that is. The private key is a string of random bytes, the phrase of random words you have is generated from your private key via some algorithm so that it's human-readable.

 

[Manimal House]

A lot of these suggestions are interesting and could be solutions, but they sound long-term and will take time.

As for right now or within the next couple of weeks, the only thing I can think of is to maybe just shut the doors temporarily. I'm not sure if this is going to help much, maybe it could cause more issues, but if the site is down for a month or so to sort out problems, it will keep those attacking in the dark about the site status and give them the idea that the hard work is done and to maintain course while work gets handled on the site. This will give Null more time to do work behind the scenes instead of having to manage the forum. I don't know if there's a way for the site to stay up as 'read-only' and allow no one but staff to login, but that might be a way to go so anyone can view the information here.

It's not ideal, and it would mean users are again unable to sneed or share info, but maybe things have changed since the last time the pool was closed. For one thing, Josh is on X. He can bring anything worthy of attention to the public with his account, unlike last time when the site was down he was only able to share info via a handful of avenues. Getting heard on there about all this bullshit might actually be possible. Another thing is that the pendulum is swinging. Twitter, where lgbt, journos and the government had a firm grip on discourse is no more, among other places. For fucks sake, the new Twitter is full of people calling for jewish genocide with rounds of applause in the form of likes....did nazi that coming.

Though it might be a double edged sword if Kiwis went to X, followed Josh and start acting retarded, that could make things worse but he's already got what, 10K followers now? If the interview with Caroline Farrow proved anything, it's that there are a lot more rational thinking people lurking here than most would think. If all the lolcows, trannies, faggots, coombrains and whoever else start shit with us, then shit back. The war is on. I know there's the saying 'don't pozload my neghole', but if the poo touches you, what else can you do?

 

[MeltyTW]

what if we just started a wider campaign to expose cogent and dong gone? made memes and games and even paid advertisements. their whole deal is theyre pissed people can talk about their fucked up misdeeds so why not expand that to the fullest? irl banners and billboards etc. maybe "this man hates your freedom, this man loves rape" captions.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Midway reading the OP, I got the impression this was a call to action with following plan:

"Trawl through all big sites like Facebook for inappropriate content and spam Cogent support for AUP violations."

However, there are few glaring problems with this:
1. Labor-intensive.
2. Concierges sans salaire for big tech.
3. I assume Cogent to be made out of those people who are immune to being called hypocrites because their idea of social contract goes basically "we are samurai, you are peasant."

1. That's an advantage- attrition. Kiwifarms has more useless internet labor than Cogent. It's autistic and free, unlike companies that pay employees.
2. I don't speak surrenderese
3. They're not going to give up because they recognize that they are hypocrites, certainly. Increasing costs (see #1) are potentially a different story, however.

 

[Summer of George]

No, this is not how it works.
I will spend a grand, maybe 2 or even 4, on a lawsuit to take on this glowie-puppeteered censorship.
In order for it not NOT be the equivalent of throwing it out the window on fire, it needs to be matched by others to produce a war chest capable of doing actual work.
This requires coordination and pledging until the goal is met before shelling out.

My brother in Christ, that is exactly the point of my repartee.

Of course most of us aren't drooling retards, and have some semblance of financial responsibility. We've all been burned before and we raise our haunches at the idea of taking such a large risk. None of us want to end up like one of the Catboys from the Ranch, who sent in our money just so it could be snorted up.

But the time is now, and much as we'd not like to admit it, time is of the essence. I'm personally grateful to see you and a couple other people in this thread offering up substantial sums. But with all this BS going on for years now and this particular thread quickly at 25 pages, I'd like to see more than just a handful of posts saying "sure, I'd kick in for it, if everyone goes along". It feels ominously like just another idea that's gonna quietly die in committee. That outcome is unacceptable at this point.

Who steps up to administer this still-theoretical donation drive? (Hypocrite me, I realistically can not. I really don't even have time do some of this other stuff like finding other websites to flood-report. All I have to offer is money.) Is it Null himself, or is there someone else who is able and who he trusts enough? What monetary goal should even be set? These questions all have discrete answers, but I'm not in the position to answer them. Most of us aren't - that's the trouble. The time for theoreticals is over, this ball needs to start rolling right the fuck now.

Maybe Josh's lawfare fails to even launch - well, then, fuck it, let him keep whatever $$'s left for the next rainy day. Worse, maybe a suit proceeds in full, and we lose, and the precedent for our Internet being well and truly fucked is set for years to come. It's all pretty much a gamble no matter how you look at it.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Yeah, I think at the end of the day, the PR war is lost for the most part, and that's the unfortunate truth. There are many people minds that are already made up, and if someone looks up anything up about the farms, then they see a distorted and false narrative about it on Wikipedia.

Lets consider the facts: Kiwifarms hasn't broken the law, yet has had numerous domains suspended, Cloudflare services terminated, and a T1 ISP provider is actively censoring the farms based on a person that probably just wants certain information hid on them. They're literally willing to tear the very fabric of the internet and the foundation that it rests on over a few threads on an obscure gossip forum.

I think #DropKiwiFarms campaign last year showed very clearly that all this censorship comes top-down from people very high who hate this site with passion and it is not something that can be solved through complaints to lower management or by convincing people. These people will never stop trying to censor the site and will never change their minds. The only way as I see it now would be if someone even higher put them in their place like the government, some rival tech company or some rich guy like Musk who also is at odds with the current establishment.

Trying to get US government to help us is in no way guaranteed to work as you said, but might as well try.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Krazy Kiwi Krowdfund!

LFJ admitted that he spent $120K AUD (some $80,000 USD) of his personal stash to win his retarded default judgment against Vincent Zhen. 80k just to "win" an action against someone who literally put up no defense at all? And in a cucked country where victory was easy, at that?

I don't follow that rapist's thread, but I notice a certain Tyler J. Wolff, another Weeb Wars alumni remembered most for looking like the Geico caveman, was involved. Tyler is an Australian lawyer on record saying that buying a billboard with a picture of a Chinese cartoon voice actor he doesn't like with the label "sex pest" underneath is protected free speech. Apparently Tyler does not believe the same applies to his hero Elliot William "Liz" Fong-Jones.

The connections between Weeb Wars and Liz the Rapist Fong Jones is one hell of a rabbit hole. It's also doubly amusing since it makes me think all these lawyers are still seething over posts people made years ago.

 

[BrainProlapse]

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Edit: only the last one is me.

Instead of just forcing them to see what's happening is wrong you retards fling shit at the walls like apes and make them pay less attention. Good job.

 

[Jomi]

Yes, 100%

No, this is not how it works.
I will spend a grand, maybe 2 or even 4, on a lawsuit to take on this glowie-puppeteered censorship.
In order for it not NOT be the equivalent of throwing it out the window on fire, it needs to be matched by others to produce a war chest capable of doing actual work.
This requires coordination and pledging until the goal is met before shelling out.

I agree, I imagine a dedicated fundraiser would be more effective in this case than the "keep drip-feeding the main janny" approach (though it should be noted I've never run a universally despised website).

I would give £10.