US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Constellationzero]

It doesn't matter if people write it in, they will refuse the votes. For starters they will use old trickery to claim "akshually only ONE name is valid" so that Trump, Donald Trump, Donald J. Trump, Donald John Trump are all different "candidates" for the purposes of counting. And then they will make it so the "machines" if they get any to be doing ballot counting just will not be able to tell people's handwriting or simply will not register.

I know that and acknowledged that. Please, doomposting like that solves nothing. We don't KNOW for certain. Hell, I don't know either. But you gotta try.

I know they'll just keep breaking the law, but sometimes shit like this becomes the catalyst for a huge awakening.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

It's not really doomposting because if it gets to that point it means things are so desperate it is likely we will be seeing a complete breakdown of order.

 

[MMS-China]

Did someone say doomposting?

https://twitter.com/realmuckraker/status/1737287243318907334

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

expect more states to be emboldened and follow CO's example.

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[MrJokerRager]

Even if Cali is the bluest state in the Union, this would still deny millions of votes for Trump. Since they don't want to acknowledge the Electoral College, this would preclude the possibility of Trump even winning the popular vote.

In other words, this is blatant election-rigging.

Buy guns, ammo, and Level 4 plates. Your life, liberty, loved ones, and legacy may soon depend on them.

Total California Death.

 

[derpherp2]

If the last month hasn't earned Vivek a cabinet position, I don't know what will. I prefer his talking points to Trump's, but I don't trust that he will stick to it once in office. If he puts in 4 years of cutting bureaucrat throats under a tried and tested administration, I'd be very comfortable voting for him in '28 or later.

When he actually steps down is when he gets trustworthy enough to start listening to. Not before. It's literally his job to talk shit, I'm not going to give him kudos for doing his fucking job just because everyone else in his field isn't.

 

[Gehenna]

Colorado GOP is prepared to move to a caucus system to sidestep this ruling if the supreme court refuses to intervene.

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Also, uh.. someone has been taking caesar's quotes and putting trump headers on them and it's pretty frightening how on point they are.

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Lets start off with... well, was kinda hoping they wouldn't be this god damned stupid but clown world did make me think it was coming. The Colorado GOP does have the right response, to change up a quote ""[The Colorado Supreme Court] has made [their] decision; now let [them] enforce it!""

The only thing this could effect is the general and frankly my bet is on SCOTUS slapping this down. Probably in a 6-3 because this runs counter to even Robert's preferences. Though I am expecting a decision just about in detail as the Colorado Supreme Courts, just a flat "No" with barely any explanation to avoid rocking the boat by setting further precedent.

 

[Meat Target]

Especially due to the fact that we're less than a month away from the start of the primaries, I figured they had let go of the notion that they would keep him from being the nominee.

Which only really makes it that much worse that they're doing it so close to the deadline. There's no possible way to spin this as anything other than a naked attempt to deny the voting populace the choice of a candidate that is overwhelmingly popular with nearly half of the electorate.

Attempting to keep him from even being allowed to be the GOP nominee is arguably more destabilizing than fucking with the general election in some equally blatant manner. It disillusions people from the entirety of the political system, not just pointed anger at one specific party.

They're actively trying to provoke another J6 (or something truly vicious) by being as hateable and dictatorial as possible. They're eager for an excuse to declare martial law nationwide and kill/imprison dissidents.

It's the only thing that can save their regime at this point. And the worst part? There is no doubt at least some Qoomer dipshits out there are dumb enough to take the bait.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

Even if Cali is the bluest state in the Union, this would still deny millions of votes for Trump. Since they don't want to acknowledge the Electoral College, this would preclude the possibility of Trump even winning the popular vote.

In other words, this is blatant election-rigging.

Buy guns, ammo, and Level 4 plates. Your life, liberty, loved ones, and legacy may soon depend on them.

If California does anything this retarded, it'll make its way up to SCOTUS and get overturned.

That's not to say you shouldn't have the goodies you mentioned. Just saying that's not going to be the particular turd that hits the fan.

 

[Betonhaus]

Question.
If California is trying to strike Trump off the ballot, would that mean that they think he has a real chance of winning even that deep blue state?

Deep blue states being so afraid of Trump that they're trying to remove him from their states ballots does imply that they believe he will win even in their state.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

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Also, to no surprise, MSNBC really wants to turn into a popular version of CNN:

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It will be pretty funny if word ever gets out that this network just called black Americans who voted for Trump in 2020 as “Confederates”.

Never change, Fake News.

It is fascinating that this orange man is still not in jail; it’s hilarious.

MSNBC hired a bunch of former Biden staffers: Jen Psaki, that sheboon Symone Sanders, etc. Of course they are.

 

[Meat Target]

Question.
If California is trying to strike Trump off the ballot, would that mean that they think he has a real chance of winning even that deep blue state?

Deep blue states being so afraid of Trump that they're trying to remove him from their states ballots does imply that they believe he will win even in their state.

Like I said, it would still doom him in the national popular vote count. Which Dems are hellbent on being the only one that matters, regardless of what Bush v. Gore decided.

It's the principle of it. They want ritual humiliation of Deplorables. They want to force conservatives to only vote for Uniparty fuckheads.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

if he ends up being the punjabi stephen miller i can vote for him

Small correction. Nikki Haley is the backstabby Punjabi. Vivek is the Tamil Redpill.

Know your pajeet taxonomy. Someday it will matter.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Question.
If California is trying to strike Trump off the ballot, would that mean that they think he has a real chance of winning even that deep blue state?

Deep blue states being so afraid of Trump that they're trying to remove him from their states ballots does imply that they believe he will win even in their state.

Just my gut feeling, but I think you're overthinking it. It isn't so much that they're afraid Trump will win these Blue states, but that they're petty. They deny him just because.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Small correction. Nikki Haley is the backstabby Punjabi. Vivek is the Tamil Redpill.

Know your pajeet taxonomy. Someday it will matter.

if youre pulling this card vivek is a tamil speaking hindi,

 

[St.Davis]

Like I said, it would still doom him in the national popular vote count.

Despite what the Democrats would like to believe, the "popular vote" is completely politically irrelevant. I don't see the point in doing this if that were the primary intent.

 

[Gehenna]

Despite what the Democrats would like to believe, the "popular vote" is completely politically irrelevant. I don't see the point in doing this if that were the primary intent.

If anything it undermines that purpose, as Trump and his supports could happily claim they very well could have won the popular -if not for this action-. It provides plausible deniability.

 

[tehpope]

Biden needs to be tried and then burnt in a Sicilian bull.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I had thought MSNBC WAS the popular version of CNN. It's slightly less biased than CNN, YMMV. Red is not an appealing color for regular news coverage. It feels like somebody is always warning you of SOMETHING.

Its complicated.

MSNBC started as a rip off of CNN but was a fourth rate failure until Keith Olberman convinced station big wig that they should rebrand as an explicitly leftt wing version of Fox, as CNN during the Bush years went out of its way to be as spineless and neutral as it could be to the point of mainly running news magazine shows, celebrity gossip, and true crime shit in order to avoid criticizing Bush.

It took a while but MSNBC eventually overtook CNN and became the second biggest cable news outlet, which in turn is why CNN went full Trump derangement in the 2010s and how they accelerated beyond even what MSNBC was doing TDS since in the end, they were trying to grab lapsed viewers back that would normally just watch MSNBC for their TDS fix.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The 14th argument is weird, because the 14th doesn’t list the president (or vice president) as applicable party.

The 14th applies to “[anyone] who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”

Trump indeed has taken an oath of office, but it was not “as a member of Congress”, an officer of the United States”, a member of any State legislature”, “an executive or judicial officer of any State”. Trump has never been a member of Congress, he is not a member of the State legislature, nor is he an executive or judicial officer of any state.

But what about the part I left out, about an “officer of the United States”? Presidents don’t count, officers are not elected but chosen by the President. This is how the Supreme Court has interpreted that phrase. See Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company, 561 U.S. 477, 130 S. Ct. 3138, 177 L. Ed. 2d 706 (2010)

That’s not counting the theory that the 14 (as it relates to insurrections) was dissolved by the Amnesty Act of 1872

To me it seems obvious that if the Congress, Senate, and the States wanted to punish the President (or the Vice President for that matter) for an insurrection, it would be clearly reflected in the language of the Amendment. As it stands, the President is evidently missing from this. If they want to insurrection-charge him, their only choice (if he hasn’t the Presidential Immunity for actions taken in office) is 18 U.S. Code § 2383 which applies to everyone, but bars no one from office