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SSj_Ness said:
Next model, as in next-gen or a revision? I'd be pleasantly surprised to see next-gen start that early.
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The way I understood it is that it's more than a revision, but not quite a "next gen" jump either.

I don't know if that is because Microsoft is going to continue this "support the old system alongside it" deal or what. Or even if it's actually true, it's just shit I read.

I think the days of major generation jumps is over after PS5 and Series X tbqh.
 
Asian tech support said:
Was the discless shitbox from the leak a few months back a revision?
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It was a Series X with a new southbridge chip and because of that has USB-C ports.

Current Series X reuses the southbridge from Xbox One and even very prominently says Xbox One on it; I assumed this was done for compatibility but maybe was just a cost saving measure like don't fix what isn't broken.
 
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The Last Stand said:
MS stated they don't need (care) to sell Xboxes for long term success. They have Game Pass to do the heavy lifting.
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Last gen consoles went from 2013 to 2020, so we're about halfway through this gen and CoD will be gone for Sony by the time the PS6 comes out. The FTC trial showed that Sony's entire business strategy for the Playstation has been to lure normies to their platform with their 1st party titles so that when the normies finish Sony's annual 10hr movie game and go back to spending 90% of their time on normiecore shit, Sony gets a cut from those MTX moneyprinters. Microsoft has decided to not even compete with Sony's 1st party titles and instead just cut Sony off at the source and deprive Sony of the normiecore altogether.

Normies aren't going to be excited to buy the console that doesn't have CoD, Diablo, Doom, Fallout, and Skyrim (yes, normies don't even refer to TES as Elder Scrolls). All these games are likely going to be shit but normies don't give a fuck. Microsoft intends to strangle the Playstation out of the market with money, it's why they're so hands off with managing their studios. Sony figured this out and that's why there's a huge push to break into the GaaS market to get people addicted to their shit. It's like 80% of the reason they bought Bungie, they want someone with expertise with GaaS to help them solve this problem.

As an analogy, every time a new console generation starts, a bunch of cows are released into a field between two farms where neither farm is allowed to actually "own" the cows. The faggot from California has tried to lure cows to his farm with tasty hay and carrots so that once the cows are situated on their farms, they can start milking the cows for money. This has worked for years but now that guy just realized the other farm is owned by a turbo rich faggot from Washington that intends to buy the milk industry and deny him from selling any milk. So now the faggot from California is panicking and trying to get into the manure industry and is slowly starting to realize the manure industry is incredibly competitive.
 
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The Last Stand said:
MS stated they don't need (care) to sell Xboxes for long term success. They have Game Pass to do the heavy lifting.
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Thats good for their "planning" but Gamepass is missing growth targets, isn't profitable, is cutting into traditional sales of first party titles and streaming as a whole is in a really shitty place right now. None of that is good for their "long-term success."

xXx: State of the Union said:
I thought this was confirmed to have been cancelled since they're focusing on making their next Xbox model by 2026.
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Not really, this isn't an actual pro-update with more power or anything, under the hood its just a regular X with a bigger hard drive and no disc drive. That seems like an easy way to juice sales in what will be the console's fourth year on the market. And its quite possible that that 2026 stuff turns out to be a big miss, anyways.
 
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Thats good for their "planning" but Gamepass is missing growth targets, isn't profitable, is cutting into traditional sales of first party titles and streaming as a whole is in a really shitty place right now. None of that is good for their "long-term success."
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That's why that very same Xbox leak that's already been mentioned also revealed that if Gamepass doesn't become profitable or successful within a few years (2027 I believe was the target year), Microsoft will dip out of the game industry entirely.
 
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xXx: State of the Union said:
I think the days of major generation jumps is over after PS5 and Series X tbqh.
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I'd say the last time this was clearly noticeable was in the PS3 and 360 era. Quality leaps have been smaller and smaller with each generation, though I'm not sure how much of it is triple A being subjected to full rot and spectacle instead of doing something interesting with the extra power. But I'm one of speds that are more than happy to plat at 1080p a game with Yakuza tier graphical quality.

Only game in recent memory that I was surprised at it's graphical prowess was Horizon, the water effects are fantastic, then I played it and after a while tapped out without missing a beat. So it's not like that pretty water managed to keep me engaged for long.
 
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ShitLurker said:
I'd say the last time this was clearly noticeable was in the PS3 and 360 era.
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It was noticeable, but the jump was still relatively small. Late 6th gen games weren't that far behind 360 launch games. Resident Evil 4 didn't look too shabby compared to Condemned.

There wasn't a single 5th gen game that even came close to any DC launch title. Sonic Adventure and Soulcalibur were a true leap ahead of even games that came later, like Final Fantasy 9.
 
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RE: Xbox upgrade.

Microsoft release several SKU's during the generation lifecycle. From No-HDD having xbox 360's to slim elites, from Xbox One mandatory Kinect, to Xbone SAD.

The chances of the Series S having a revision to make it as powerful as an X, and the X having the equivalent of an X1>X1X upgrade is nailed on.

Phil Spencer promised VR at both X1X and Series X reveals, yet no VR has been announced. A powerful, affordable VR headset would be perfect for MS as VR games are all digital by default.

The PSVR2 is a brilliant VR headset and the controllers are the best controllers i've used on a game (Shame you can use them as standard on flat screen games) but sony abandoning VR2 to chase portal and GAAS is infuriating to no end.
They were on with a genuine winner there
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Microsoft will dip out of the game industry entirely.
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Its for that reason I have been telling people who are unhappy with windows OS to give linux a real try. I hate a lot of linux OS users, they are the worst, but aside from those faggots its looking like the home of PC gaming as home gaming becomes more niche. Even stream gaming is getting pretty well used. Granted its stuck in mostly major cities where the internet can sustain it, but going forward it will become the defacto standard as it allows for the most control.
 
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ShitLurker said:
I'd say the last time this was clearly noticeable was in the PS3 and 360 era.
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Oh, I agree that it ended with PS3 and 360, but I feel like there were some people that thought PS4 and XB1 being weak as shit was just a fluke.

I think PS5 and Series X/S have shown us it's definitely by design. To the point that I don't think there is going to be a "lower model" when it comes to Xbox with the next release, and the Series X will just take that place.
 
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Bog-standard Poster said:
The day that you didn't need new hardware to play new games exclusive to said hardware, is when the console industry become officially irrelevant, and it's MS' fault.

bragging about how current gen games can be played on a last gen console, AND releasing the S was fucking retarded.

New gen should be new hardware and new games. But mS, in their desperation, played to the pauper-fag crowd and Sony, for some retarded reason, decided to do the same and killed their PS5 franchises.

Sure, Horizon looks great on PS4, but because of the hardware limitations, it doesn't play great on either console.
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Unless that one dev complaining about Series S holding them back isn’t full of shit like I suspect they are, I don’t see the problem with letting games run on old hardware and making a lower-end SKU. It’s like playing on an old gaming PC; the cutting edge might run like crap, but if you don’t mind playing at a lower resolution/framerate, and the game is already developed in a way that allows you to turn down the graphical settings, then why restrict it? And simpler games like a lot of indies can still be played on older systems and reach a wider audience.
 
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