Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

[MavisBeaconTeachesSnipin]

 

[An automatic clown]

https://www.youtube.com/live/1sT1XMhJtyM

Dan is about to go live. Is anyone going to archive it ? I am unable to catch it live. He usually scubs it once it's over

 

[I'mThePatMan!]

Dan is about to go live. Is anyone going to archive it ? I am unable to catch it live. He usually scubs it once it's over

I can't do it if it is live, but I can archive it if he doesn't rush to delete it.

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On another topic: Zarbon decided to stop fighting Goku for a while and to devote himself to the literary arts.




The reviews are coming in, and they are pure fire!

"Original and irreplaceable."
"A one of a kind adventure, accept no lazy substitute!."
"Out of this world, and into Elon's!"
"A literary piece that could only come from the fit, normal-headed, big-penised mind of Zarbon".
"No fattys: 10/10"
"Riveting lack of tranny crabs and lesbians space marines: this is one for the ages"

 

[An automatic clown]

I can't do it if it is live, but I can archive it if he doesn't rush to delete it.

Thank you kind farmer. He usually keeps it to an hour or hour n a half as of late. Jackie specifically called him out on Xitter so I want to see what he has to say. He also teased a special guest

 

[Tablet County]

they tire of watching him spam “no stalker.”

Could you imagine following somebody on twitter because you like his books/political takes (hey, it could happen) and the majority of his posts are the same three blurbs about how "you aren't my toilet/liver/back fence/wife's bull"?
Imagine if a credible author like Asimov or somebody was on twitter all the time getting into stupid arguments with somebody pretending to be his bidet. I'd be tempted to set fire to my copy of Caves of Steel.

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Bit off-topic but what's a good rule of thumb for plotting out your novel?.

 

[I'mThePatMan!]

Hey guys, I tried downloading Dan's show as @An automatic clown asked me, but I tried and for some reason, YT is not being very helpful. Can anyone help a farmer and give it a try? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sT1XMhJtyM

 

[rusty shackleford 1]

Could you imagine following somebody on twitter because you like his books/political takes (hey, it could happen) and the majority of his posts are the same three blurbs about how "you aren't my toilet/liver/back fence/wife's bull"?
Imagine if a credible author like Asimov or somebody was on twitter all the time getting into stupid arguments with somebody pretending to be his bidet. I'd be tempted to set fire to my copy of Caves of Steel.

This is credited to user Barry of the Owen forums, who made a post on the second, better forum titled OnA Winning Hearts And Minds in the War On Misinformation. these people watch this bizarre shit spew from Patrick’s twitter and then they encounter a rational and well spoken pest who just does this and uses their retarded lib logic against them. The birth of organic patposters is amazing because it contradicts his narrative that we’re all just basement dwelling shitposters or whatever. This faggot literally responded “but drumpf” and still conceded in the end.

 

[John Flory]

I cant find the thread for the Julays/Lolcow of the year. Hasn't begun yet? If it has please share the link. Need to come up with a proper electoral campaign. Elliot Dong Long-gone ain't funny but might get first place out of spite just like Lucas last year

 

[CansOfCant]

Hey guys, I tried downloading Dan's show as @An automatic clown asked me, but I tried and for some reason, YT is not being very helpful. Can anyone help a farmer and give it a try? Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sT1XMhJtyM

Here's a shit quality local archive cause it's an hour and a half long.

 

[OtherLastTrainHome]

This is credited to user Barry of the Owen forums, who made a post on the second, better forum titled OnA Winning Hearts And Minds in the War On Misinformation. these people watch this bizarre shit spew from Patrick’s twitter and then they encounter a rational and well spoken pest who just does this and uses their retarded lib logic against them. The birth of organic patposters is amazing because it contradicts his narrative that we’re all just basement dwelling shitposters or whatever. This faggot literally responded “but drumpf” and still conceded in the end.
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it really is a Christmas miracle. an actual levelheaded dialogue on the shxitter? goodness.

 

[TurboNAS]

That's only eight books, two unpublished. A "short story" isn't a book... I don't think? It might just a semantic thing.

Semantics and little technicalities are Patrick’s bread and butter. I think your count is correct but maybe that were-rat story is book length. Maybe he’s got another book written that no one has bought.

Anyway, I'd love to hear from anyone here whose read any of these to talk about them

We’ve never talked about his books in here, child. Those are just your delusions. I’m happy to chat about the books in here, they’re just frustrating at the best of times.

There’s a full review of The Ark and Starship Repo in this thread. Both are a good read.

Here are the links for Starship Repo:

I did a five part review earlier in the thread, going through Starship Repo and analyzing precisely how horrible it is in depth. I will not dredge up those traumatizing memories or open the cover of that book again, out of fear for my mental health, but it is documented in the above links if you really want to know

OtherLastTrainHome did a massive effort post/review of The Ark starting here.

Patrick has the germ of a good idea in each of his books but then he fumbles the execution.

Hang on, is this based on the game? I haven't played it but it's a pretty well-regarded space combat sim.

No relation to the game that I can tell. Patrick’s first book in the series was published on November 15, 2015 and the game has a 2016 release date. The game campaign seems to be about warfare in our solar system rather than a generation ship headed to Tau Ceti.

 

[Maude Snew]

Just as a reminder that the non interference policy of this place also applies to you, as in self harm is discouraged. As such reading Rick's books is not recommended and I can't cosign any of it. There are people out there who care for you, you do not have to resort to these drastic measures. Friends do not let friends read Tomlinson books.

 

[cerulean hydra]

Bit off-topic but what's a good rule of thumb for plotting out your novel?.

This is something that is different for everybody, it seems. Admittedly, I am a novice, and others like @WelperHelper99 will be able to give much better advice.

But what works well for me is having a beginning, an end, motivations for the main characters (wants/needs), and then breaking it into four quarters, i.e. W happens in the first quarter, then X happens in the second leading to the mid point, Y leads up to the climax, where Z happens. It's fractal in nature, so if I am uncertain about something, I can just break one of those quarters down into four quarters to flesh it out.

My brain doesn't like detailed outlines, but some people will write every scene they have planned on an index card. Others will write out a list of key moments, like frames on a story board. I think the bare minimum is knowing your beginning, middle, and end. You can often tell when a writer has shit out a first draft without knowing their ending at the start.

For a mystery novel specifically, I've seen advice to map it out. Create tables and timelines that state where characters are at what exact times, because consistency is important. I've never sat down to try and write one, though.

late edit: there isn't anything inherently wrong with discovery writing the way patrick does, just don't consider your first draft a finished product that only needs minor tweaks. Plotting and outlining are just tools to get unstuck and tell better stories.

 

[FinnSven]

Takei was legit funny and lovable at one time. My personal favorite memory of him [aside from “Vishnu bewaaaaaaare!”] was him telling Howard Stern he wasn’t gay circa 1994.

Was this before or after he sucked off Howard Stern?

Or during?

 

[Jeff_the_Thriller]

Enjoy Christmas, stalkers. You have been instructed, many dozens of times, to have a holly jolly Christmas. Failure to do so constitutes felony Humbug.

Thanks. I intend to spend it with loving friends and family. I know that's not nearly as glamorous as getting hammered drunk alone and Xeeting veiled threats at strangers all day.

Your holidays have already begun. Enjoy Christmas, stalkers.

 

[BScCollateral]

I love living in a world where a 90 year old William Shatner literally went to space.

It's silly, but I'm still happy about that.

 

[BScCollateral]

No relation to the game that I can tell. Patrick’s first book in the series was published on November 15, 2015 and the game has a 2016 release date. The game campaign seems to be about warfare in our solar system rather than a generation ship headed to Tau Ceti.

You're correct; the game follows the career of a warship commander within the Solar System.
It is suggested, although not stated, the player is in a Muslim faction which ultimately loses the war.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

When I look at ShinyStar's review of Starship Repo, the general impression I get is that it has some interesting ideas, but the execution is really lazy and unimaginable.

It seems like the general tone he's going for is Futurama, with all the irreverent social commentary and the modern/sci-fi blended setting. But it doesn't feel like there's all that much effort put into it. The main character is called "Firstname Lastname" and the joke is she screwed up her paperwork, but nothing much comes out of that and it just blends into the background. And that kind of summarizes the entire book. There's barely any worldbuilding, everything is just meant to look like the modern world with a bunch of extra sci-fi stuff added. They have the same pop culture, holidays and brands. Not even parodies or anything, just namedrops stuff like McDonalds and Coca Cola. There's no real explanation for why this space station is a 1-1 copy of an American city from the 2010s, it's not supposed to be a theme park or a vacation place or anything.

Futurama had a setting really similar to our world, but it still had pretty cool worldbuilding with the ruins of the old city underground, and the multiple apocalypses that explained why everything was so weird and backwards. They took the time to make everything believable, even though it was silly and meant to be super unrealistic. Repo sorta just half-asses everything and handwaves it away by saying "it's a comedy." The story doesn't really explore what it would be like to live on a space station, or be the only human in a community full of aliens. It just copy+pastes our world and shuffles some things around.

I might be totally wrong with my take, this is all just second-hand from the review I've read. I'd have to read the book myself to see if my impression is correct, but based on just what I've seen I can't say I'm very interested in actually doing that. It just seems like a really disappointing and lazy story.

 

[ZipDisk]

Fatty is the kind of man who turns into a cringing mouse in the presence of actual men, but will aggressively lean into the physical space of a woman he's trying to intimidate.

When I was 14 I started doing "The loom" but I was also in mandatory therapy because my dad died. The Psychologist school forced me to see was utterly unsympathetic and said I was being a pathetic fuck for doing that. She asked if it made me feel like a big strong man. I stopped doing it immediately.

Pat really said “Mien” Kampf. What a great wordsmith.

Lo Mein Kampf. ugh, that joke makes me feel filthy.

I love living in a world where a 90 year old William Shatner literally went to space.

The big takeaway I took from Shatner's Space Odyssee is the death of Scifi. Vulcan isn't out there. Only death and suffocation. All the nerditry about space ships and FTL and aliens, and all that shit amounts to nothing.
NOTHING.

Shat has put Scifi nerds on the same deck as Ren Faire dipshits. You're not building the future, you're masturbating.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This is something that is different for everybody, it seems. Admittedly, I am a novice, and others like @WelperHelper99 will be able to give much better advice.

But what works well for me is having a beginning, an end, motivations for the main characters (wants/needs), and then breaking it into four quarters, i.e. W happens in the first quarter, then X happens in the second leading to the mid point, Y leads up to the climax, where Z happens. It's fractal in nature, so if I am uncertain about something, I can just break one of those quarters down into four quarters to flesh it out.

My brain doesn't like detailed outlines, but some people will write every scene they have planned on an index card. Others will write out a list of key moments, like frames on a story board. I think the bare minimum is knowing your beginning, middle, and end. You can often tell when a writer has shit out a first draft without knowing their ending at the start.

For a mystery novel specifically, I've seen advice to map it out. Create tables and timelines that state where characters are at what exact times, because consistency is important. I've never sat down to try and write one, though.

late edit: there isn't anything inherently wrong with discovery writing the way patrick does, just don't consider your first draft a finished product that only needs minor tweaks. Plotting and outlining are just tools to get unstuck and tell better stories.

It depends on the writer. People write differently. Some people work well with a top down structure with outlines guiding the story the entire way. Others like me go the Valve route, bottom up, where you think "that's cool", plot it in your head for the major events, and let God take the wheel for the middle.

Top down is inherently faster but more rigid. Bottom up leads itself to better charecter interactions and bursts of creativity, but is slow unless your autism is going full throttle for months at a time, and cab wander quite a bit. My two cents