Business Fewer and fewer young men are going to college, now represent only 42% of students at 4-year schools: poll

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College enrollment has been gradually declining over the past ten years, particularly among young men, according to Pew Research Center.
Colleges in America have represented the gateway to elite institutions and upper mobility for generations, but between expensive costs and various controversies, many appear to be second-guessing spending years in academia, especially men, and demographers are starting to notice.
Most of the decline is due to fewer young men pursuing college," Pew reported. "About 1 million fewer young men are in college but only 0.2 million fewer young women. As a result, men make up 44% of young college students today, down from 47% in 2011, according to newly released U.S. Census Bureau data."
The study added further, "This shift is driven entirely by the falling share of men who are students at four-year colleges. Today, men represent only 42% of students ages 18 to 24 at four-year schools, down from 47% in 2011."
Polling from 2021 may explain some of the reasons why, as "Roughly a third (34%) of men without a bachelor’s degree say a major reason they didn’t complete college is that they just didn’t want to" and 26% of them stated they did not need further education for the careers they wanted.

Meanwhile, women argued that the reason was that they were unable to afford colleg

 

[Testacles Maximus]

Pleasant Undertale reference. Also college is bullshit.

 

[The Punished Mitch]

With very few exceptions getting a an advanced indoctrination certificate beyond a high school diploma is a waste of time if you're a white man. They're going to hire a disabled trans pajeet ultranigger over you and if you want to spend 4 years being told what a piece of shit you are just get a subscription to ballbusting dot com

I got a college degree when things were significantly less pozzed and reality is that I've never had a job I couldn't have done when I was 12 with a month or two of on the job training. Many such cases.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

For the college system, this is a catastrophe.

In reality, it's not. Kinda.

The men opting out of College that aren't going straight into the workforce are still having an education, or rather, training. The investment is not as big, but the payback is immediate. Generating money when you're still rather young can help you to to get a family you can support.

The bad side is that these men are rather smart and capable and colleges are only left with the morons and midwits who think that having a diploma means they're smart. Except for very specific careers (think of STEM and perhaps law), most of these men are never getting married, might never afford a home, nor sustain a family. And on top of that, they now will have a debt that many won't be able to ever pay... but they will be out in the world being mediocre employees.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Also college is bullshit.

Hope trades don’t get too popular because of South Park. Tradesmen making a killing in this economy.

 

[Troonos]

Based.

University is a scam, and I have a bachelor's and master's degree that resulted in a career with good middle-class pay.

I wish this meant that more men were going to trade school instead, but I get the feeling most young men who don't go to college are just dropping out of society and becoming NEETs.

 

[northstar747]

eh just open an anime college. you ll get men...trust me

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

All of the replies are exactly what they should be; young men smart for taking a trade and avoiding woke-indoctrination camp

I love the farms.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

I wish this meant that more men were going to trade school instead, but I get the feeling most young men who don't go to college are just dropping out of society and becoming NEETs.

There's no reason not to. People suck. They are criminal, treacherous, looking to take advantage of you however they can and toss you away when you're no longer useful.

Disgusting parasites, the lot of them.

 

[Megaton Punch]

colleges are only left with the morons and midwits who think that having a diploma means they're smart.

Which means that professions that really do need a degree, like doctors and engineers, are composed mostly of said midwits. Hence the competence crisis.

If you find a young male doctor who's Asian or white, keep him forever. Because he had to go through ten times what the rest will do in their entire lives just so he could get to the starting line.

 

[Coptakhenaten]

I have absolutely no aptitude in trade so I kind of have to go to college, but the world would be a better place if half the college curricula gets gutted. Thankfully I managed to bypass all the wokery bullshit by taking all gened shit in community college.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

All of the replies are exactly what they should be; young men smart for taking a trade and avoiding woke-indoctrination camp

I love the farms.

Don't forget the useless degrees like gender studies that might help you to flip burgers.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Which means that professions that really do need a degree, like doctors and engineers, are composed mostly of said midwits. Hence the competence crisis.

If you find a young male doctor who's Asian or white, keep him forever. Because he had to go through ten times what the rest will do in their entire lives just so he could get to the starting line.

I don't think "mostly" yet, but I'd say about 30% to 40% of them are below the minimal required intelligence for college education on certain careers.

Source is "Educational Testing Service", so I dunno how accurate it is, but it looks, to me, that's accurate enough.

Now, anyone below 110 shouldn't be admitted to college.

 

[Sniperwoof]

With very few exceptions getting a an advanced indoctrination certificate beyond a high school diploma is a waste of time if you're a white man. They're going to hire a disabled trans pajeet ultranigger over you and if you want to spend 4 years being told what a piece of shit you are just get a subscription to ballbusting dot com

I got a college degree when things were significantly less pozzed and reality is that I've never had a job I couldn't have done when I was 12 with a month or two of on the job training. Many such cases.

I respectfully disagree, I recommend everyone who has the intellectual capacity for it to go white collar.

Conservative influencers like to fantasize about this wonderful tradcon society where blue collar America is thriving and happy and free from degeneracy.

Blue collar America is not thriving, it is rotting into the ground. I come from a small working class town and everyone who did not have the ability to leave is struggling heavily.

They are addicted to drugs and alcohol, riddled with health problems in their late 20s, and often divorced. All over the country you can find working class towns like these sinking into despair and decay.

And all that aside as Scott Greer correctly points out the right is not going to build a counter elite by encouraging everyone to become plumbers and clean the elite's toilets.

This glorification of poverty, being poorly educated, and downward mobility is why the left controls all our institutions.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Culturally: men build a thing. Women invade thing and thing rots from within.

 

[Loose Goose]

There are multiple unintended consequences here.

• One, this will lock white men out of the elite jobs that actually run things in business and politics. That's a lot of power left to diversity hires, who will be leftists by default or by patronage. There are credentialed professions where you can't just get in without the paper and the connections you make. Expect white mens' political power to diminish further, with all that entails.
• This may be a long term boon to accelerationists due to the competence crisis in white collar jobs (although it is bad enough in the trades too). We are already seeing the beginnings of this. You might argue this will make the system less capable and easier to replace when it is thoroughly weakened. Is it worth the price / risk, though? "Things will get better in 50 years" is not a comforting thought if that's going to be most of your life.
• The likely outcome, though, is the rise of alternative institutions. The current university system will lose a lot of its relevance and be replaced by something else. They will be initially less respectable, and the incumbents will do their best to squash or subvert them, but in the end, there will be a demand for the skills traditional higher education would offer, even if it will not be a formal college.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

Both my boys went right into trades and they are both earning more than me in my degree required white collar job I’ve been doing for 20 years.
Daughter is struggling to finish a useless humanities degree and will likely end up working retail for years before she may breakthrough.
This is Canada which is vastly different in our economy is based on an educational Ponzi scheme, but I would recommend white men do trades if they are capable because as mentioned above, you will be fighting off niggers and pajeets to get a job in your educational field. Not too many diversity hires are mechanics or electricians . It also allows for more mobility to move around to a less pozzed place if such exists.

 

[Odd Opossum]

I respectfully disagree, I recommend everyone who has the intellectual capacity for it to go white collar.

Conservative influencers like to fantasize about this wonderful tradcon society where blue collar America is thriving and happy and free from degeneracy.

Blue collar America is not thriving, it is rotting into the ground. I come from a small working class town and everyone who did not have the ability to leave is struggling heavily.

They are addicted to drugs and alcohol, riddled with health problems in their late 20s, and often divorced. All over the country you can find working class towns like these sinking into despair and decay.

And all that aside as Scott Greer correctly points out the right is not going to build a counter elite by encouraging everyone to become plumbers and clean the elite's toilets.

This glorification of poverty, being poorly educated, and downward mobility is why the left controls all our institutions.

I completely agree with this, the image of some trad-chad dude with a nuclear family is true for some, but not the majority of guys who work in these trades. You're also going to be dealing with a lot of Hispanics because they're the ones who are usually willing to do these types of jobs. Plus, trades aren't some magic fix for employment. A lot of male Zoomers are way too anxious or defiant to properly work within the trades, and trainers would rather have someone with experience then a loser 26 year old who can't even hold a screwdriver correctly.

 

[Sniperwoof]

I completely agree with this, the image of some trad-chad dude with a nuclear family is true for some, but not the majority of guys who work in these trades. You're also going to be dealing with a lot of Hispanics because they're the ones who are usually willing to do these types of jobs. Plus, trades aren't some magic fix for employment. A lot of male Zoomers are way too anxious or defiant to properly work within the trades, and trainers would rather have someone with experience then a loser 26 year old who can't even hold a screwdriver correctly.

Literally not even five minutes ago I got a call saying that someone I knew from my hometown had a heart attack in one of the local bars and died instantly, she was 39 and a high school graduate.

Blue collar America is not fucking ok.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I respectfully disagree, I recommend everyone who has the intellectual capacity for it to go white collar.

Conservative influencers like to fantasize about this wonderful tradcon society where blue collar America is thriving and happy and free from degeneracy.

Blue collar America is not thriving, it is rotting into the ground. I come from a small working class town and everyone who did not have the ability to leave is struggling heavily.

They are addicted to drugs and alcohol, riddled with health problems in their late 20s, and often divorced. All over the country you can find working class towns like these sinking into despair and decay.

And all that aside as Scott Greer correctly points out the right is not going to build a counter elite by encouraging everyone to become plumbers and clean the elite's toilets.

This glorification of poverty, being poorly educated, and downward mobility is why the left controls all our institutions.

This doesn't happen because they're plumbers though. There is a crisis like this is almost all different social groups, except it's a bit easier to be an alcoholic when you have money.

I agree an education is something everybody must aspire, but the reality is that first, not everybody has the intellectual capacity to become a lawyer or an engineer and two, not all education needs to come from college. Technical careers also require certain level of intellectually and smarts, so it's not that these people are dumb.

Someone said everybody's a conservative about what they know best. A lot of right wing thinkers also come from political sciences and many of them wouldn't make it doing blue collar jobs or STEM. They are just defending their own choices because it's personal for them. The truth is that people without college education can reach the same conclusions they came to without a college degree.