What is the superior religion? - AKA: KiwiFarms Wars of Religion

[Ewan McGregor]

Let's settle out this.

Inb4 Android Raptor sperging about her unfortunate childhood.

 

[Father Fornicatio]

 

[Ultrapenguin]

As you know, Mormonism has been making a good showing recently here on KF.

The sikhs seem kind of ok for a religion of dirty middle easterners. They carry around fancy knives and do helpful things like feed people as an actual religious tenet.
Sikhism isn't even up on your poll.

Eastern shit like Buddhism or Taoism is nice since they're more a hybrid philosophy and religion, more so than Western religions tend to be. That means if you aren't totally on board with the theistic elements of religion, you can still get something out of it.

Although I'm going to have to go with Occultism since that's a prerequisite if you want to learn to cast magic missile.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

The sikhs seem kind of ok for a religion of dirty middle easterners. They carry around fancy knives and do helpful things like feed people as an actual religious tenet.
Sikhism isn't even up on your poll.

My bad! But I wanted to include jainism too and I reached the KF limits.

If I was to be accurate I would make an option for each of the neopagan spergs, to distinguish african rock worshippers from south american dirt worshippers and to add different fringe, niche shit like Yazidism or Libertarianism.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Protestantism's Calvinist, Anabaptist and Evangelical wings all have good features. After Christianity had been turned into a corrupt monstrosity of the state, they rejected top-down, authoritarian rule. They gave access to the Bible back to common folks instead of keeping them enslaved to their emperors (like Orthodoxy) or proto-Globohomo (like Catholicism). The Lutherans and Anglicans were not significant enough breaks. They purified Christianity of much of its paganized, pompous ritual and mythology. EVROPA that wankers like to jerk off was great because of the achievements of primarily Germanic, Protestant Europe that made the modern world, and Greco-Roman pagans that created philosophy.

The Calvinists were often very ugly in their own day with extremism, but they laid the foundations for Northern Europe's spectacular takeoff and the makings of a decent modern world. The more Calvinist a country went, the more advanced it was and the more contributions to humanity - scientific - it made, as a rule. Swiss, Scots, New English, and Dutch were all high-functioning Calvinist countries. On the modern Far Right people dick suck the Pope because they dick suck any thug with a crown or robe because it baaaaaaaased whether or not it did any good for people. Calvinism eventually morphed, particularly in America, into Evangelicalism which became the core of the American Red State culture. It had its downsides, like the Israel obsession, but that wasn't always a part of it and won't always be.

The Anabaptists didn't have so much of a contribution, but I strongly believe that they are the most credible in terms of personal conduct. Their pacifism was retarded and hypocritical in the sense that they could only survive in a world where other people DON'T share their values - are willing to fight their battles for them - but there is still something deeply principled in their refusal to bend to the world. Their emphasis on kindness and asceticism within a family context offered everything good about Catholic/Orthodox monastic life but in a way that was actually healthy. They are probably one of the finest peoples on Earth.

I like Mormonism's beliefs about the afterlife, its creation stories, basically all of its notions about the soul and the world and its fate, but I dislike its central authority (for the same reason I dislike the other organized churches), its legalistic attitude towards certain things, and many very unfortunate features like it being totally at odds with archaeology and the racist doctrines they retconned out of it. Mormons themselves are incredibly remarkable people and their combination of frontier individualism with Yankee ingenuity and communitarianism make them arguably one of the most civilized people on Earth.

Islam is violent, cruel garbage. It was an improvement on the pagan societies it displaced but has no merit compared to Christianity, other than that I like its monotheism (Christianity is NOT monotheistic, whatever knots they tie themselves into to try to justify it).

I don't actually know a lot about Sikhs, but I admire them as another syncretic ethnoreligion that seems to mostly focus on defending itself. It too is monotheistic. In general, it comes across as a kinder Islam but inaccessible to outsiders and demanding in its rules.

Hinduism is pagan trash. It belongs in the Iron Age with Greco-Roman and Norse. It just happened to get lucky and survive, for some fucking reason.

Buddhism is god-tier in terms of "actually making sense" and having useful lessons, but is an incredibly depressing and pessimistic faith. In Asia it is every bit as mythological as Catholicism is.

Confucianism is great in its emphasis on education, ancestor worship, and civics. It's horrible in that it places TOO much emphasis on social stability to the point where every society that adopts it stagnates.

Judaism, like Sikhism, is just another ethnoreligion, and unlike Sikhism it historically went out of its way to keep to itself while also preaching the superiority of its followers. Its culture ended up spawning most of the subversion and Communism of the modern day, so while not the fault of the Jewish religion itself, there is still a clear connection there. I find the idea of a "Chosen People" chosen by blood vile. Its biggest practicioners seem to show the least respect out of any religion for their own religion, considering that their whole body of law is basically just attempts to scam God out of his own rules.

TIER LIST
Calvinism/Evangelicalism
Anabaptism
Buddhism
Orthodoxy
Mormonism
Lutheranism/Anglicanism (gay and boring)
Confucianism (remove the autistic fixation on keeping things the same and it soars to S-tier)
Sikhism
Hinduism (at least there's no fucking Hindu Pope)
Judaism
Catholicism
Islam (remove the Dark Ages shit and it jumps to the top)

 

[AgendaPoster]

I am a Zensunni wanderer

 

[Schwarzwald]

In an ideal world, Catholicism never splintered and became a den of demons and monsters protecting each other whilst lining their pockets. They have become a tool of the Antichrist in many respects, and certain sects of "Christianity" are even worse than they are.

Considering, nondenominational hardline Christianity is the only sensible path to take in modernity.

 

[FuckMeGentlyWithAChainsaw]

My bad! But I wanted to include jainism too and I reached the KF limits.

You have four options for Judaism, three for Christianity and none at all for Esoteric Hitlerism.
If you had a Wikipedia page what would I find in the early life section, sir?

 

[Named User]

Non-denominational Christianity.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I'm a Catholic yet I hate our pope and much of our current leadership and ways.

 

[BMO_]

1. Sneedism
2. Chris-Chan's spin on Christianity
3. Flying Cheddar Monster

 

[Ewan McGregor]

You have four options for Judaism, three for Christianity and none at all for Esoteric Hitlerism.
If you had a Wikipedia page what would I find in the early life section, sir?

I find the differences between the distinct sects of Judaism fairly relevant.

Esoteric Hitlerism doesn't qualify as an actual religion due to its lack of consistency and body of thought. You probably want to check out 'Neopaganism', 'Gnosticism', 'Occultism' or even Atheism and Christianity, since Positive Christianity was a retrofitting of Christian lore from a national socialist lens and, ultimately, Adolf Hitler himself didn't care at all about religion and only saw it as another tool to build his view of Germany.

But I digress, where's my dreidl?

 

[AgendaPoster]

Esoteric Hitlerism doesn't qualify

Zoomers be like "I see spinning Sonnenrad and dancing anime chicks on a background with pyramids, MY FAITH HAS GROWN"

 

[draggs]

The Greek pantheon

It isn't even close

NOT Neopaganism

The real shit

 

[Ewan McGregor]

zoomewr

Did your brain melt with some synthetic drug?

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Worship of the Chaos undivided. Death to the false emperor.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Did your brain melt with some synthetic drug?

I'm outputting artefacts

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

"Sunny Islam"

hahahahahaha

IT'S SPELT "SUNNI," SIR

 

[SacredChao]

None of them. Not just because I think they're false, but I think spirituality like people is going to be varied. The way we manifest that sense of awe or reverence is as diverse as people are. It speaks to the needs or desires of the people. It's a personal mythos that fills a void people have. For some it'll be a father figure that loves unconditionally, for some it's just a vague force, for some it's some sort of feminine figure, for others it's a need for atonement and peace of mind for past wrongs or guilt, and so on. I could go on all day.

People seek religion and the spiritual for a lot of different reasons. You're never going to get one size fits all. Even if you had all people believing in one nominal religion you'll still get various interpretations and schisms between them. Because people vary and you just cannot (as far as I can see) fulfill all of them with one standardized system of spirituality. It just doesn't work like that. And as long as religion is based on how one feels or vague mental abstractions and word games it'll continue to be a rather fluid concept and largely based on the various fears, feelings, and desires or longing of the people that adhere to it.

 

[Spider Princess Fan]

No Zoroastrianism

Considering, nondenominational hardline Christianity is the only sensible path to take in modernity.

Non-denominational Christianity.

Common Filth's gang gang.