Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[capitalBBustard]

Why are people still replying to this threadshitting schizo? Literally nothing what this faggot says is based on anything, he just spergs out fanfiction about the games he fanboys over. He's been a wretched plague in every thread he infests.

Western RPGs didn't become mainstream until KOTOR and Oblivion sauntered into the scene, and many RPG-diehards really love to heap praises on 90s CRPGs while ignoring the fact that said games weren't that popular and barely hit over 100K sales

Look at this crap. Fucking Baldur's Gate 1&2 both sold more than a million copies each. It's incredibly easy to verify that they were very popular games, this retard is spewing horseshit. And his paragraphs borne of mental illness are riddled with shit like this. Jesus.

Edit: Nevermind the fact that this unhinged retard is crying about people shitting on certain popular games in the UNPOPULAR OPINIONS thread, and is defending their honor with his autism.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Why are people still replying to this threadshitting schizo? Literally nothing what this faggot says is based on anything, he just spergs out fanfiction about the games he fanboys over. He's been a wretched plague in every thread he infests.

How pathetic. Cry some more if you wish, little one.

Look at this crap. Fucking Baldur's Gate 1&2 both sold more than a million copies each. It's incredibly easy to verify that they were very popular games, this retard is spewing horseshit. And his paragraphs borne of mental illness are riddled with shit like this. Jesus.

A million. Cute. Those are fucking rookiee numbers. FF7 and FF6 sold ten times that each. That, and even Baldur's Gate creators admit their game is trash compared to FF7.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/baldurs-gate-writer-says-the-rpgs-cast-was-a-bunch-of-cardboard-cutouts-compared-to-final-fantasy-7s-and-the-jrpg-drove-bioware-to-step-it-up/ar-AA1hZRUw

Baldur’s Gate 2’s more complicated companion characters were unexpectedly inspired by a JRPG from across the globe: Final Fantasy 7

In an interview with Rock Paper Shotgun, James Ohlen - who was once a veteran developer at BioWare, working on everything from Baldur’s Gate and Dragon Age to Star Wars and Anthem - revealed the unlikely connection between two RPG heavyweights. According to Ohlen, during one freezing winter, a producer at publisher Interplay namedropped the seminal Squaresoft JRPG and said Baldur’s Gate’s characters weren’t half as complex.

“I’m very competitive,” said Ohlen. “I went and played Final Fantasy VII and was like, ‘Oh my good god, these characters make ours look like a bunch of cardboard cutouts. This is terrible.’” Playing Final Fantasy 7 supposedly influenced BioWare as they then developed Baldur’s Gate 2. You can kind of see the similarities between Final Fantasy 7’s Barret and Baldur’s Gate’s Jaheira if you squint: activists forced to put aside their grief for a greater cause.

Squaresoft continued to influence Ohlen, namely with Chrono Cross’ twisting story, although the now famous twist from Knights of the Old Republic actually came from, well, Star Wars itself. “I actually totally, entirely ripped off The Empire Strikes Back in such blatant fashion,” revealed Ohlen. “You basically go to face the dark lord by yourself, and then you get into a lightsaber fight with him, and he kicks your ass. And then, after kicking your ass, he does the big twist. Then you don’t die because you’re rescued by your friends on the Millennium Falcon - I mean, the Ebon Hawk. It’s beat by beat the same thing.”

So basically, we have FF7 to thank, not just for the JRPG rush that people like Spoony hated, but also for the well-written Bioware games like KOTOR, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, and Jade Empire, because Bioware's writers were a bunch of weebs who loved FF7 and wanted to make something that's just as good. Pre-KOTOR Bioware writers admitted their own stories were kinda shit in comparison to FF7, and FF7 being a key game that inspired them to write better characters down the line with games like KOTOR and Mass Effect.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Look at this crap. Fucking Baldur's Gate 1&2 both sold more than a million copies each. It's incredibly easy to verify that they were very popular games, this retard is spewing horseshit. And his paragraphs borne of mental illness are riddled with shit like this. Jesus.

If anything, the original BG games are referenced way more often nowadays than Kotor. Kotor was a fun game, but lol, let's be real.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

If anything, the original BG games are referenced way more often nowadays than Kotor. Kotor was a fun game, but lol, let's be real.

LOL no. KOTOR is basically Bioware's breakout game. Prior to that, very few gamers knew about them. A million sounds like a large number, unless you look at how much other blockbuster games were selling, tens of millions of copies. People reference KOTOR way much more, to the point where Disney kept the SWTOR MMO running despite shitcanning all the old SWEU from the canon, and they're even working on a KOTOR remake because it's that popular.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

LOL no. KOTOR is basically Bioware's breakout game. Prior to that, very few gamers knew about them. A million sounds like a large number, unless you look at how much other blockbuster games were selling, tens of millions of copies. People reference KOTOR way much more, to the point where Disney kept the SWTOR MMO running despite shitcanning all the old SWEU from the canon, and they're even working on a KOTOR remake because it's that popular.

I like how in an "unpopular opinion" thread you do nothing but use lowest common denominator appeal to prove just how popular your opinions are.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I like how in an "unpopular opinion" thread you do nothing but use lowest common denominator appeal to prove just how popular your opinions are.

Er, no. I'm just stating facts. KOTOR is so popular that despite shitcanning the SWEU, Disney kept the Old Republic MMO running and are even working on a KOTOR remake as we speak. It's that universally-loved, to the point where the company that says the SWEU doesn't matter is working to bring it back for modern audiences.

Also, given the WRPG echo chamber, yes I am stating unpopular opinions, since many WRPG fanboys have deceived themselves into thinking that older WRPGs are somehow better than the more ''streamlined'' RPGs like ME2 and FO3, despite the latter two being downright venerated as timeless classics when they first came out.

 

[capitalBBustard]

See? Now the repugnant spaz is moving goalposts and crying that a million copies (10 times as much as he claimed btw) for a fucking PC game in 1998 is not a huge amount.
>Sth sth muh FF7 REEEE

Take your meds, schizo. You're spouting gibberish and shitting up the thread.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Also, given the WRPG echo chamber, yes I am stating unpopular opinions, since many WRPG fanboys have deceived themselves into thinking that older WRPGs are somehow better than the more ''streamlined'' RPGs like ME2 and FO3, despite the latter two being downright venerated as timeless classics when they first came out

"How dare you sweaty nerds maintain an unpopular opinion against my FACTS!"

Lmao.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

See? Now the repugnant spaz is moving goalposts and crying that a million copies (10 times as much as he claimed btw) for a fucking PC game in 1998 is not a huge amount.
>Sth sth muh FF7 REEEE

Again, those are rookiee numbers compared to FF6 and FF7 that each sold 10 million copies. And again, the makers of Baldur's Gate 2 admitted their characters were trash compared to FF7's characters, and that's why they strove to do better. What we got out of that was KOTOR, Mass Effect, and Jade Empire, so FF7 was that necessary kick in the balls that forced WRPG writers to git gud.

Also, 1 million copies isn't that much of a milestone when fucking Starcraft 1 sold 9.5 million copies. That's a PC game that came out in 1998.

Take your meds, schizo. You're spouting gibberish and shitting up the thread.

You're the one shitting up the thread by acting like a child, kiddo.

"How dare you sweaty nerds maintain an unpopular opinion against my FACTS!"

Lmao.

Given how you people react when people tell you facts, it seems like these facts of mine are the unpopular opinions in these parts.

 

[Forgotten Beast]

A million sounds like a large number, unless you look at how much other blockbuster games were selling

The first Baldurs Gate game had better launch sales than Half-life and Doom, so I guess nobody knows about those games either. BG2 sold even better.
You are free to shit the thread with absolute trash opinions, but try to to avoid talking about things that a quick Google search can prove wrong

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

The first Baldurs Gate game had better launch sales than Half-life and Doom, so I guess nobody knows about those games either. BG2 sold even better.

That just means Half-Life and Doom weren't as famous as games like FF6. Again, a million sounds like a big number, unless you look at other games that sold ten times that amount, and Baldur's Gate devs openly admitted they were falling behind when comparing BG to FF7.

You are free to shit the thread with absolute trash opinions, but try to to avoid talking about things that a quick Google search can prove wrong

I'm only stating facts; what these games sold, and what their devs say. It was the BG2 devs who openly said that their characters were trash compared to FF7.

 

[capitalBBustard]

Also, 1 million copies isn't that much of a milestone when fucking SC1 sold 9.5 million copies. That's a PC game that came out in 1998.

By May 2007, StarCraft had sold over 9.5 million copies across the globe.

Might wanna look up how much it sold in '98, you stupid faggot.

StarCraft was released internationally on March 31, 1998, and became the best-selling PC game for that year, selling over 1.5 million copies worldwide.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Might wanna look up how much it sold in '98, you stupid faggot.

I said it came out in 98, dipshit. I didn't say that's what it sold in '98. And again, Bioware's devs openly admitted they were falling behind when they compared their characters to Square Enix's. They're the ones who called their own characters ''cardboard cutouts'' when comparing them to FF7's characters.

Funny enough, the one BG game that DID surpass FF6 and FF7 was BG3. AKA the bear-fucking simulator. It sold over 21 million copies in a matter of months. I'm surprised you didn't mention that. A WRPG curbstomping both FF6 AND FF7 in a matter of months. That's an accomplishment in itself.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

A million. Cute. Those are fucking rookiee numbers. FF7 and FF6 sold ten times that each. That, and even Baldur's Gate creators admit their game is trash compared to FF7.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertain...-jrpg-drove-bioware-to-step-it-up/ar-AA1hZRUw

Your article doesn't say that, you autistic fucknut.

Also: All the lols at someone thinking FF7s characters are deep and original

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Your article doesn't say that, you autistic fucknut.

Also: All the lols at someone thinking FF7s characters are deep and original

I literally quoted the article, pal. Also, Bioware's devs thought that FF7's characters were deep and original. That's not me saying it, that's the BG2 devs saying it.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

I literally quoted the article, pal. Also, Bioware's devs thought that FF7's characters were deep and original. That's not me saying it, that's the BG2 devs saying it.

CTRL+F, "trash", no results found.

You didn't quote shit, you cited an article and gave your own incorrect summary of it.

And I was laughing at the devs for thinking it.

 

[Forgotten Beast]

Read the James Ohlen (A BG2 dev, not THE BG2 devs) interview again, darling, and be prepared to move the goalposts again. I'll ever throw a hint for free: pay attention to WHEN he played FFVII.

Observing your reading comprehension skills makes me understand why you defend ME2 and Fallout 3's writing so much.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Why are people still replying to this threadshitting schizo? Literally nothing what this faggot says is based on anything, he just spergs out fanfiction about the games he fanboys over. He's been a wretched plague in every thread he infests.

I don't know what you mean. Posting gigantic walls of text while refusing to budge an inch in the hope that the other guy will give up out of boredom is a storied tradition that dates back to ancient Rome.

 

[Ser Prize]

Jade Empire is still one of Bioware's best games.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

And I was laughing at the devs for thinking it.

That's what they thought.

Here's literally the quote from the article. Scroll down and you'll find it.

“I’m very competitive,” said Ohlen. “I went and played Final Fantasy VII and was like, ‘Oh my good god, these characters make ours look like a bunch of cardboard cutouts. This is terrible.’” Playing Final Fantasy 7 supposedly influenced BioWare as they then developed Baldur’s Gate 2. You can kind of see the similarities between Final Fantasy 7’s Barret and Baldur’s Gate’s Jaheira if you squint: activists forced to put aside their grief for a greater cause.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/news/baldurs-gate-writer-says-the-rpgs-cast-was-a-bunch-of-cardboard-cutouts-compared-to-final-fantasy-7s-and-the-jrpg-drove-bioware-to-step-it-up/ar-AA1hZRUw

And again, why the hell is nobody talking about Baldur's Gate 3 selling 21 million copies in months? Apparently, all they needed was the power of woke furries to beat the weebs at their own game.

Jade Empire is still one of Bioware's best games.

That it is. The fact that it got no sequel is a tragedy.