Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Susanna]

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The yanks need to pay for their genocide of Ukrainians. This is utterly devastating to watch.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

A hohol grain ship, Panama flagged, hit a mine in the Black Sea. Well, they were warned:

A civilian ship exploded on a Russian mini (mine) in the Black Sea, two sailors were injured​

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The bulk carrier was sailing under the flag of Panama to load grain into one of the Danube ports, the Southern Defense Forces reported and showed a photo.​

Link to source​

 

[01169]

they'll make it sound like it's a great idea then accuse everyone that disagrees with sending kids to war of being a Nazi....

That's a bit exaggerated. I think we won't see those levels of insanity. And they don't have to either. The main narrative is still muh ebil Putler. If he didn't want this war they wouldn't have to send kids to their death etc.

They're not framing The Unbesiegbare Ukraine anymore but they haven't allowed for any debates whether the reasons for this SMO are more complex than Orks vs. Mankind.

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

Reddittor has a hot take on the counteroffensyiiv.

A hohol grain ship, Panama flagged, hit a mine in the Black Sea. Well, they were warned:

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A civilian ship exploded on a Russian mini (mine) in the Black Sea, two sailors were injured

Is it confirmed to be a Russian mine? There are a lot of Ukrainian ones floating around the area too.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Reddittor has a hot take on the counteroffensyiiv

It it worked, it wasn’t stupid

 

[Halmaz]

Reddittor has a hot take on the counteroffensyiiv.

Uhhh, what? That is some 1984 doublespeak bullshit right there. I don't even understand what he is trying to suggest. How is setting up adequate defenses to repel an enemy offensive silly and stupid? Liberalism is hell of a drug.

 

[sneedpest]

https://english.elpais.com/internat...drain-puts-its-post-war-recovery-at-risk.html

grim out look on the prospect of Ukrainian recovery

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

https://english.elpais.com/internat...drain-puts-its-post-war-recovery-at-risk.html
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grim out look on the prospect of Ukrainian recovery

Fun fact about statistics that have to do with Ukrainian population:

Ukraine has done a census once in 2001. Pretty much all numbers thrown around nowadays are estimates and deduction. The inefficient handling of the mobilization (such as resorting to handing out draft notices randomly in shopping malls) also proved that they have very spotty records to find men of military age. A lot of documentation that people have is also still from the soviet era. My bet is that the demographics are even more dire than usually presented.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Is it confirmed to be a Russian mine? There are a lot of Ukrainian ones floating around the area too.

Either one works for me. Could be a hohol mine as well and if so, that's some choice hohol zarada.

Now for even more zarada:

A very moving video from Vesti; here are a few excerpts from it.​

On the Ugledarsk front, units of the operational and combat tactical formation "Cascade" are entrenched at new firing positions, from which they managed to dislodge Ukrainian militants. For the separate battalion named after Bogdan Khmelnitsky this was the first combat mission. All the fighters here are former AFU servicemen who defected to our side and now fight shoulder to shoulder against Ukrainian militants.​

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"No one's hiding behind anyone, no one pokes anyone anything, does not remember the past. Now tasks are set, we have to fulfill them, and there is trust, we fulfill them."​

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Ukrainians from the battalion named after Bohdan Khmelnitsky took the first battle with the AFU. Link to source​

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

3. Not running an NGO or "charity"

This made me think to go look up the STALKER devs that were based in Ukraine.
Looks like they got the fuck out and went to Prague.

It it worked, it wasn’t stupid

In the land of the retarded, the man who can walk the longest without shitting his pants is king.

"No one's hiding behind anyone, no one pokes anyone anything, does not remember the past. Now tasks are set, we have to fulfill them, and there is trust, we fulfill them."Ukrainians from the battalion named after Bohdan Khmelnitsky took the first battle with the AFU

I can't blame them. Sounds like those guys were put on the front lines to die and goaded into it.
I'd be pissed too.

 

[Kankichi Ryotsu]

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This is fucked. Ukraine's not going to recover from the demographic catastrophe that is taking place and will become a failed state. All for what, gay sex in Kiev and more cocaine shipments to Zelensky's office?

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I hate to post random twitter hot takes but this is really spot on. It's hard to come to any other conclusion than this:

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1740352227720515923

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Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast

I think историк-алкоголик's assessment of recent political events in Ukraine is the most correct so far: “The harsh draft law on mobilization, which includes measures for the forced return of Ukrainians living in Europe, as well as statements that Ukraine will stop paying government employees and halt social welfare payments, including pensions, if there is no help from the West, are all part of a public information campaign aimed at extracting money and weapons from the West. And one can understand the Ukrainian leadership; the situation has reached a dead end, something needs to be done, using the entire arsenal of persuasion. The argument ‘If Ukraine does not stop Russia, then it will attack NATO and EU countries’ has worn itself out and no longer evokes any emotions. They have resorted to the argument ‘Then we will kill another half a million Ukrainians and starve the pensioners to death.’ I don’t know if they realize in Kiev what they have come up with, as usually in a dead end situation people are not capable of a sound assessment of their own actions, but from the outside, it looks as if the Ukrainian authorities have taken the Ukrainians hostage and are demanding a ransom for their lives.”

6:41 AM · Dec 28, 2023
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[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

This is fucked. Ukraine's not going to recover from the demographic catastrophe that is taking place and will become a failed state. All for what, gay sex in Kiev and more cocaine shipments to Zelensky's office?

To stick it to the Russians.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The harsh draft law on mobilization, which includes measures for the forced return of Ukrainians living in Europe, as well as statements that Ukraine will stop paying government employees and halt social welfare payments, including pensions, if there is no help from the West

My conclusion is that its over for the Saloreich and the moment this happens is the moment cities surrender to Russia.

 

[01169]

I can also see more and more defecting. They have to come to this conclusion if they're not ideologically too far gone: Fight for Ukraine, maybe even win a battle or two, then get sent to the next until you die. Fight for Russia. Have a chance of getting out of there alive since at some point you WILL be victorious.

 

[Doctor Love]

I can also see more and more defecting. They have to come to this conclusion if they're not ideologically too far gone: Fight for Ukraine, maybe even win a battle or two, then get sent to the next until you die. Fight for Russia. Have a chance of getting out of there alive since at some point you WILL be victorious.

It would be fucking hilarious if the Ukrainians ended up joining Russia, en masse, taking all the weapons with them.

 

[jeff7989]

Ukrainians from the battalion named after Bohdan Khmelnitsky took the first battle with the AFU.

Why is Poland supporting ukraine again?

 

[Mr Komo]

Why is Poland supporting ukraine again?

To get at the Russians for historical butthurt. That's literally it. They hate Russia more than they love their own countries. They used to have something (Rzeczpospolita, Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Finnish Grand Duchy, etc.) and now they have nothing but the egos of disgraced empires and the earthshatterring buttfucking mad salty loser disposition because they all got owned by people they consider to be subhuman retarded orks at one point or another.

If Russia wins this, and it most likely will, this attitude will spread to all of NATO and US. Imagine making fun of your opponent and making them out to be these barely sapient backwards, barbarian, unwashed, slug people armed with shovels and then you fucking lose to them despite your superior ways and your amazing wonder waffles. Does terrible things to one's feeling of self-worth.

One could argue that this would be their "hit rock bottom, get your head out of your ass and come to Jesus moment", but they are too retarded and too un-self-aware to do that. They'll just double down and try this shit again in another... 10-20 years? In a generation or two? In a century?

 

[The Ugly One]

This is fucked. Ukraine's not going to recover from the demographic catastrophe that is taking place and will become a failed state. All for what, gay sex in Kiev and more cocaine shipments to Zelensky's office?

Oh, didn't you hear? The USA plans to repopulate Ukraine with niggers and Arabs. "Ukraine" will live on! I'm sure that membership to the EU won't be fast-tracked and used as a beachhead for even more Third World immigration into Europe.

 

[Stasi]

They used to have something (Rzeczpospolita, Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth, Finnish Grand Duchy, etc.) and now they have nothing but the egos of disgraced empires and the earthshatterring buttfucking mad salty loser disposition because they all got owned by people they consider to be subhuman retarded orks at one point or another.

You forgot to mention that one time the Poles were dumb enough to enter the Kremlin, were besieged, had to resort to cannibalism and eventually surrendered in disgrace and had to slink back to Poland with their tails between their legs.