Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Not at all.
People stopped watching tv cause its either propaganda or like 4 sitcoms with jokes usually about sex. Same with internet sources, but since roskomnadzor is bad at being the ministry of truth, online publications are split into pro/anti edinaya rossiya propaganda with a few tidbits of actual news inbetween.
Atleast we dont got Kardashians.
Which is probably healthy. A lot of problems are because Americans get whipped up in a frenzy about things that don't affect them and never will. Are Russians able to know the relevant truths about what their regional politicians stand for?
 
Which is probably healthy. A lot of problems are because Americans get whipped up in a frenzy about things that don't affect them and never will. Are Russians able to know the relevant truths about what their regional politicians stand for?
Everything good is blown out of proportions by pro side, everything bad is blown out of proportions by the anti side. Everything important you can usually find out by a word of mouth. Basically yes, but not because, in spite.
 
Remember when Poland announced huge arms purchases from South Korea and sane people questioned where they would even get the funding?
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"There was a problem with the Korean purchases... a significant part of the Korean purchases was to be financed by a loan that Korea was to grant," Donald Tusk told a news conference.

"In the end it turned out that there was some misunderstanding... it turned out that there was no Korean loan."


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Time to add Forbes to the Russian propaganda outlets:
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(see the increasingly troubling situation at Robotyne).
Robotyne is a problem for both sides. Every building there has been leveled so occupying the village is basically administering a death sentence by FPV drone to anyone unfortunate enough to be stuck in that hellhole. Its better to just attack around it and have the Ukrainians just abandon it, taking it in a front assault would just be a serious detriment to the integrity of the lines since the Ukrainians would be the harvesting exposed troops. Marinka is effectively the same thing, everything is rubble, its a serious problem for the people tasked to hold it. NATO has to be one of the worst military powers in history, even decayed powers like The Ottomans Empire or Austro-Hungary during WW1 had more fucking sense than NATO planners. Ukraine should have been erecting significant defensive lines the moment the lines started calcifying back in late 2021, this is something that can be done at the same time as preparations for offensive actions and its extremely beneficial for each unit to know where to retreat to in event of a breakthrough or a total failure during the offensive. As it stands now they just have basic trenchworks along the frontlines, there has been absolutely nothing on the order of the Surovikin line far as I've read.
 
Robotyne is a problem for both sides. Every building there has been leveled so occupying the village is basically administering a death sentence by FPV drone to anyone unfortunate enough to be stuck in that hellhole. Its better to just attack around it and have the Ukrainians just abandon it, taking it in a front assault would just be a serious detriment to the integrity of the lines since the Ukrainians would be the harvesting exposed troops. Marinka is effectively the same thing, everything is rubble, its a serious problem for the people tasked to hold it. NATO has to be one of the worst military powers in history, even decayed powers like The Ottomans Empire or Austro-Hungary during WW1 had more fucking sense than NATO planners. Ukraine should have been erecting significant defensive lines the moment the lines started calcifying back in late 2021, this is something that can be done at the same time as preparations for offensive actions and its extremely beneficial for each unit to know where to retreat to in event of a breakthrough or a total failure during the offensive. As it stands now they just have basic trenchworks along the frontlines, there has been absolutely nothing on the order of the Surovikin line far as I've read.
Reminds me of the British during that same WW1...only building basic trenches because they were convinced that ANY DAY NOW they would smash the German defenses, so why bother building better trenches when they'll be occupying the German ones ANY DAY NOW in a glorious offense?

...and thus, they needlessly sacrificed troops pointlessly in said offensives, then had the ones that didn't die suffer pointlessly by living in literal mud holes.

Likewise, the Ukrainian high command believe they'll be back on the offensive ANY DAY NOW. Also, if they build strong static defenses, they'd be silently admitting they can't really reclaim lost territory and that they're just trying to prevent further losses.
 
Russia did a big combined missile and drone strike overnight:
Better video of the Kiev building explosion:


Edit: Ukrainian air defense again: a missile shot down in Kiev hit a multi-story building Judging by the footage, in flight the rocket caught a construction crane and crashed into the roof of a high-rise building.

lol
 
Likewise, the Ukrainian high command believe they'll be back on the offensive ANY DAY NOW.
Now listen here mister, they cannot lose. They are fighting orcs who have never seen a toilet, fight using shovels and will run away at the sight of Bradleys and Leopards, but that is beside the point. They are the GOOD GUYS and the good guys ALWAYS win. They are Harry Potter and the Avengers and Rey Skywalker fighting Death Eaters and Thanos and the Empire. Of couse they will be back on the offensive, heroic President Zelensky said they will not negotiate until Crimea is returned and the 1991 borders are restored.

Now get into the trenches. They have plot armor.
 
Considering Finland is bordering right next to Russia, it screams possible escalation.
>Finland gets dragged into another war because a great power does a false flag incident on its border
When they say "history is like poetry, it rhymes", I wish they didn't mean like this.

Hungary isn't fully infected with globalist shitheels so there is a bit of rationality in their politics, its always been best to play the ends against the middle and Hungary has been doing the right thing such as refusing to fully close off Russia.
Some might think Hungary should be all friendly now that the Soviets are all gone, but I don't think the Hungarians have forgotten how the West broke up Austria-Hungary after ww1 and ceded most of Hungary's land to other nations, never to be returned. Nevermind too the Polish who were "saved" from Hitler's grasp by being thrown immediately into Stalin's grasp.

Oh, didn't you hear? The USA plans to repopulate Ukraine with niggers and Arabs. "Ukraine" will live on! I'm sure that membership to the EU won't be fast-tracked and used as a beachhead for even more Third World immigration into Europe.
>Ukraine becomes the human trafficking gateway for an African wave into Europe
Russia better seize that coastline unless they want the Black Sea to become the Blacked Sea.
 
>Finland gets dragged into another war because a great power does a false flag incident on its border
When they say "history is like poetry, it rhymes", I wish they didn't mean like this.
Finland has been very "LE EVIL RUSSIA PROVES A THREAT AGAINST US. SAVE US, AMERICA-I MEAN NATO" in its politics, screaming for NATO membership because of the false narrative that Putin wants to rebuild the pre-Lenin Russian empire..

Which has never made sense to me. And I can't possibly think of a reason why Putin wants to rebuild Tsarist Russia.

I'm pretty sure we all know that Russia doesn't really give much of a fuck about Finland at the moment considering the shit storm that has been happening in Ukraine for years now. And that's before the war.

I'm just so sick of this war tbh. I'm so over the stubbornness against negotiations and the countless lives lost in this retarded proxy war.
 
Some might think Hungary should be all friendly now that the Soviets are all gone, but I don't think the Hungarians have forgotten how the West broke up Austria-Hungary after ww1 and ceded most of Hungary's land to other nations

Imagine Poland, but buttmad not at just only Russia, but at the entire european, north american, russian and muslim world that way.

6 holocausts and 9 world trade centers hate at everything. We are just smarter than the Poles and know we can't single handedly conquer Europe. Oh and Japs and Chinks are cool they weren't involved much with it.

Perhaps it was Poland's post ww2 gains that made it go " and I just won" like a certain funny internet idiot.
 
How honest do Russians rate their news companies and schools? I'm unders the impression that due to very painful lessons learned from the USSR the country places very high importance on journalistic integrity
Journalistic integrity is an oxymoron everywhere, but in Russia (I would wager) many people understand that journalists exist to be a mouthpiece for either the ruling political party (Putin) or for opposition interests.

The same way most people in Russia understand that the elections are rigged and a farce, they understand that there's no such thing as a "free media". And most are apathetic about that fact because really, who cares? You can't affect anything. You can't fix anything. And you have bills to pay and mouths to feed.

At least I'd hope most people understand that.
 
It would be fucking hilarious if the Ukrainians ended up joining Russia, en masse, taking all the weapons with them.
I mean honestly they don't even have to. They just need to smear Zelensky's brains against the wall and some of the top cabinet with him.
That'd end this fast. I am honestly surprised this hasn't' happened yet. They're running out of people to sacrifice to the meat grinder.
 
I mean honestly they don't even have to. They just need to smear Zelensky's brains against the wall and some of the top cabinet with him.
That'd end this fast. I am honestly surprised this hasn't' happened yet. They're running out of people to sacrifice to the meat grinder.
The "interventionist" crowd are piping up.

In my free time I like to doxx random Redditeurs and bully them for their stupid comments.

There are so many perverted pensioners demanding an invasion of Russia here that I can't help but think "Shipman wasn't enough"
 
It would be fucking hilarious if the Ukrainians ended up joining Russia, en masse, taking all the weapons with them.
Will not happen, not after years of brainwashing and aggravation both from the west and the east, you also have to consider that the rest of remaining oinkers had family relatives who were killed during 8 years of civil war/2 years of SMO. A lot of suxh cases.
Besides, accepting them in our ranks would result in poisoning of the troops operating there.
 
The "interventionist" crowd are piping up.

In my free time I like to doxx random Redditeurs and bully them for their stupid comments.

There are so many perverted pensioners demanding an invasion of Russia here that I can't help but think "Shipman wasn't enough"
The boomers thinking Putin wont stop if he takes Ukraine piss me off.
Big diff between Ukraine and everyone else.
Everyone else is world war 3.
Ukraine is just a shit hole and stopping some US money laundering / worse shit.
 
>Ukraine becomes the human trafficking gateway for an African wave into Europe
Russia better seize that coastline unless they want the Black Sea to become the Blacked Sea.
I’d be in favour of letting them keep Odessa if this is how they would use it. The EU needs to be enriched.
The same way most people in Russia understand that the elections are rigged and a farce, they understand that there's no such thing as a "free media". And most are apathetic about that fact because really, who cares? You can't affect anything. You can't fix anything. And you have bills to pay and mouths to feed.
This idea that Russian elections are blatantly rigged and nobody cares is just western propaganda. Our elections have better integrity than just about all of yours. Putin just has garbage opponents. He might need to cheat one day, if the liberal opposition can scrounge up someone who isn’t a blatantly criminal piece of shit, or the communists can find someone who isn’t on the United Russia payroll. But until he gets a decent opponent, he has no need to cheat. He’s literally the only viable option.
Ukraine is just a shit hole and stopping some US money laundering
Child trafficking. Remember that the US stands for pure evil.
 
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