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Money well spent. It looks exactly the same.
Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers
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Money well spent. It looks exactly the same.
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Alternate title: "Eunuch cannot stop feeling like something is missing"
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4 months post op, sigmoid vaginoplasty.
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Looks like they stapled his balls upwards.
Never trust a FTMs opinion on anything.
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u/drumroll53
Looks like they stapled his balls upwards.
Never trust a FTMs opinion on anything.
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There's a Surgeon in South Korea called Dr. Kim Jin Hong
His statistics don't get updated much but he has done at least 41 phalloplasties among the usual trans surgeries.
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He has his own technique for phalloplasty called Conjoined Bilateral Pedicled Groin Flap FtM Phalloplasty or more commonly known as Kim FtM Phalloplasty.
Images are mostly one person and I guess represents the best outcome for this procedure.
Kim claims that this procedure is 35% cheaper than other phalloplasties.
He does vaginoplasties too.
He actually has quite a detailed pricing page which gives quite a lot of interesting info.
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General Anesthesia: US$2000
His statistics don't get updated much but he has done at least 41 phalloplasties among the usual trans surgeries.
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He has his own technique for phalloplasty called Conjoined Bilateral Pedicled Groin Flap FtM Phalloplasty or more commonly known as Kim FtM Phalloplasty.
Images are mostly one person and I guess represents the best outcome for this procedure.
Kim claims that this procedure is 35% cheaper than other phalloplasties.
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F2M Top Surgery
- “Extended Keyhole” Mastectomy (small to medium-size breasts): US$3600 (send photos to check suitability)
- Skin Excision Mastectomy (medium to large-size breasts): US$4200
- Skin Excision Mastectomy & Relocation of Nipple & Areola (very large breasts): US$6000
FtM Bottom Surgery
- FtM Phalloplasty: Conjoined Bilateral Pedicled Groin Flap - All Stages: US$30000
- Stage One: US$12000 (phalloplasty using bi-lateral groin flap, 20 ml testicular implants)
- Stage Two: US$10000 (vaginectomy, urethroplasty and glans reconstruction)
- Stage Three: US$8000 (malleable penile prosthesis implantation [German brand Genesis] — see below for inflatable implant price)
- Trans-vaginal Hysterectomy & simultaneous removal of fallopian tubes and ovaries (TVH & BSO): US$3600
- Hours of surgery: 2~3
- Nights in hospital: 1~2
- Minimum Advisable Period of Post-op Care in Seoul: 1 week
- Recommended Period of Post-op Care in Seoul: 2 weeks
- Laparoscopic TVH & BSO: ask, pricefluctuates
- Metoidioplasty with vaginectomy, clitoral release, clitoral lengthening, urethroplasty, and scrotoplasty (including 15~ 20 ml testicular prostheses): US$12000
- Metoidioplasty with TVH & BSO, vaginectomy, clitoral release, clitoral lengthening, urethroplasty, and scrotoplasty (including 15~ 20 ml testicular prostheses): US$15600
- Hours of surgery: 5.5 ~ 8
- Nights in hospital: 3 ~5
- Minimum Advisable Period of Post-op Care in Seoul: 3 weeks
- Recommended Period of Post-op Care in Seoul: 4 weeks
- Only FtM Scrotoplasty under local anesthesia, including testicular implants (20 ml silicone cohesive gel implants from Silimed) US$5000
- Only FtM Inflatable penile prosthesis implantation surgery: US$15000 (implant included)
- Only FtM malleable penile prosthesis implantation: US$8000 (implant included)
- FtM Penis Urethroplasty Upgrade: US$9200
NOTE
Dr Kim reserves the right to require general anesthesia be used when his medical opinion is that it would be in the best interests of the patient.General Anesthesia: US$2000
MtF Bottom Surgery
- Recto-Sigmoid Colon Vaginoplasty, Clitoroplasty, Labiaplasty, etc (complete solution): US$10000 for doctor's surgical fee (no previous bottom surgery)
- National Medical Center fees: less than US$16000 (approximate cost for two weeks stay, depends on strength of patient, speed of recovery, nights in hospital)
- 14-20 days in hospital
- hospital charges payable by credit card with NO surcharge (paid directly to hospital, no markup by surgeon)
- surgeon's fee payable in cash only
- 6-8 hours of surgery
- 4 weeks recovery in Seoul
- Vaginoplasty by Penile Inversion Technique: US$12000
- performed at the clinic
- performed using an epidural
- general anesthesia costs additional US$2000 (not included in package price)
- approximately 4-7 nights stay in clinic
- urinary catheter implanted for 14 days
- orchieotomy is included in this surgical package. (Orchieotomy done separately costs US$1500.)
Options
- Face-to-face consultation with Dr Kim: US$200 (credited towards treatment if person becomes patient)
- One night stay in National Medical Center [NMC] (rarely needed): US$400/night for private room, US$200/night for bed in 6-person ward
- Intravenous, spinal epidural or general anesthesia: US$575
- additional costs for HIV+ patient getting a small procedure (injections only): US$500
- additional costs for HIV+ patient getting any small open surgery: US$1000
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Something about fake surgical vulvas remind me of tarantulas.
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Honestly the most horrific part about stink-ditches for me is the ballsack being used as pussy lips as visible in the pre revision photos.
All Powerful
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Wait, you can get GRS with an epidural or local anesthesia? And general anesthesia costs an extra 2 grand?
Does anyone know if other doctors except that South Korean one that offers epidurals as standard with general anesthesia as a costly “add on”. Is it common?
Damn I never seen or least noticed this mentioned in this thread at least I think. I wonder how many cash strapped troons stay awake for the surgery to save a few grand. Fuck that.
Does anyone know if other doctors except that South Korean one that offers epidurals as standard with general anesthesia as a costly “add on”. Is it common?
Damn I never seen or least noticed this mentioned in this thread at least I think. I wonder how many cash strapped troons stay awake for the surgery to save a few grand. Fuck that.
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If you said this was an islamic acid attack on a vulva, I'd believe you. Pooner is straight up delusional.
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Interesting. Good find. His phalloplasties look better than the average swollen Coke can and look consistent in their results which is a good thing. Still is fake but aesthetically better than most of the Thai and US hacks, not to mention cheaper. Rather impressive how little visible scar tissue there is. Not sure if the patient selection is better for aftercare or just surgeon technique.
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Yeah, big X for doubt on the whole esthetic part.
They select a few good results for advertising, that in no way resembles a typical result.
South Korea is also known for having “celeb doctors” like this one who front the clinic and recruit/meet with patients.
The actual surgery is then done by a rentadoc or student who earns pennies on the dollar.
There was one case in South Korea where someone died from bleeding out after surgery. They had surveillance tapes from the surgery. The celeb doc speaks with them before they go under, and as soon as she’s knocked out, the celeb doc leaves and some rando butcher they hired comes in from a side room to do the actual surgery.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Doc Kim here followed similar practices to keep the price low and the volume high.
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The neophalluses in the photos are ridiculous, yes, but look at how much less pale and dead they look. That's because a pedicle flap has much better blood supply than a graft. This should actually be the only acceptable technique for neophallus creation. I bet he has a significantly lower complication rate than his Western counterparts. The procedure is cheaper because it's much faster and reduces the time the patient requires anesthesia. If he's actually doing SRS with spinal block instead of general anesthesia, that will greatly reduce the price (and risk to the patient), as well. If SRS absolutely needs to be done, a standardized version of this technique is the only method with actual evidence to back it up.
That said, @Fapcop is correct as far as South Korean celebrity surgeons go. Who knows what Dr. Kim's other results look like.
BurningBitch
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Posted by u/boneralert_76 (ew)
Anyone up for some sausage grilling?
User customtop says:
''This looks great and it's so good you had no complications!
What type of phallo did you get?''
It disturbs me how these freaks all seem to encourage this type of mutilation and want the OPs to all seem proud of what they do to themselves.
Anyone up for some sausage grilling?
User customtop says:
''This looks great and it's so good you had no complications!
What type of phallo did you get?''
It disturbs me how these freaks all seem to encourage this type of mutilation and want the OPs to all seem proud of what they do to themselves.
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I think seeing Elephant Dick and the rest of Cetrulo's work would put most people off to that idea very quickly.
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Cuddle Striker said the same thing earlier in the thread, also that zero depth vaginoplasty is probably safest.
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No one is awake for surgery like this.
There are different types of anesthesia.
General anesthesia consists of sedative/hypnotics, paralytics and analgesics. You are kept unconscious and unarousable for the duration of the surgery. But there are risks.
Some studies have shown that general anesthesia outcomes have a prolonged healing time compared to other methods. There’s also the risk of a bad reaction, even if you’ve been fine previously with a general. Post-anesthesia delirium can potentially last for weeks, and some people experience memory loss long term.
An epidural, or spinal anesthesia, is a regional anesthesia. Where the nerve branch is completely numbed and blocked from transmitting pain signals.
With regional anesthesia, some patients are kept awake (such as childbirth with an epidural). Most others (colonoscopies, cardiac catheterization, knee replacement surgery etc.) are sedated. This is also known as “twilight sleep”.
There are different levels of sedation used.
In mild sedation, the patient is awake and responsive, can talk and is just very relaxed.
In moderate sedation, the patient is asleep, but awakens intermittently and easily.
In deep sedation, they are not easily awakened. It’s almost akin to general anesthesia, but their airway remains patent and they are able to breathe on their own. (In general anesthesia, the airway is maintained through intubation - the breathing tube that goes down your throat into your lungs.)
I’ve had both general anesthesia and epidural with deep sedation.
I’ll take general all day any day.
You close your eyes and are out. The next moment you are waking up. There’s no consciousness of the passage of time. You just… blink, and you’re transported into the future where the surgery is over.
I react really well to general. After 5 minutes in recovery I am sitting up, fully lucid and doing crossword puzzles.
Epidural with sedation was hell.
Deep sedation is like a typical dream sleep. Except worse. You are aware of time, and when you wake up you know time passed. Even with deep sedation, you can have different states or levels of it - with periods of being almost awake but not quite.
It was like the worst Lynchian nightmare, with a side of sleep paralysis. And there were periods where I was aware of the voices of the anesthetists and doctors… and in my mind I was having a conversation with them.
Oh, and because deep sedation doesn’t require intubation, I actually had an apneic episode where I stopped breathing for about 30 seconds. (Apparently my awareness of the voices was during this time. I was brought out of sedation very briefly.)
I’ll take general all day any day.
You close your eyes and are out. The next moment you are waking up. There’s no consciousness of the passage of time. You just… blink, and you’re transported into the future where the surgery is over.
I react really well to general. After 5 minutes in recovery I am sitting up, fully lucid and doing crossword puzzles.
Epidural with sedation was hell.
Deep sedation is like a typical dream sleep. Except worse. You are aware of time, and when you wake up you know time passed. Even with deep sedation, you can have different states or levels of it - with periods of being almost awake but not quite.
It was like the worst Lynchian nightmare, with a side of sleep paralysis. And there were periods where I was aware of the voices of the anesthetists and doctors… and in my mind I was having a conversation with them.
Oh, and because deep sedation doesn’t require intubation, I actually had an apneic episode where I stopped breathing for about 30 seconds. (Apparently my awareness of the voices was during this time. I was brought out of sedation very briefly.)
No surgeon is keeping someone awake during their mutilation to hear them all misgender the patient.
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Well, in the hands of an incompetent butcher, there's no acceptable technique. I was speaking theoretically, but I grant that in this thread, it's not reasonable to assume a surgeon's competence.
Edit: An epidural is different than a spinal block.
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Maybe for an actual male who has has lost part of their penis in a traumatic amputation, a pedicle flap would be the best solution, since they would still have the relevant anatomy (blood vessels, ligaments, some erectile tissue, etc.) to anchor the flap. Women have none of this, so the benefits that come with this type of surgery for men (whom it was originally developed for, since men who have lost their penis or been born with severely deformed genitalia like cases of bladder extrophy far outnumbered pooners until roughly 5 years ago) will not apply to pooners.
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The pedicle flap is less likely to rot off than a graft because of the superior perfusion. I'm not talking about function or cosmesis, just safety.
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This makes me think of the "born too late to explore the Earth/born too soon to explore the galaxy" laments. The only field left where a B-student surgeon is going to be able to name a procedure after himself is for-profit troonery.
There's an Oglaf for that:
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I can't find it now, maybe not in this thread, but I remember seeing a "top surgeon" in the US who used working under conscious sedation as a selling point on their professional website. Their clients were mostly black, and the results had a bit of that rushed Civil War surgery about them.
It's a cost savings, but you gotta ask if it's because they can't get an anesthesiologist to work with them--and with plastics, I'd worry who, if anyone, is going to be monitoring the patient while the surgeon is busy trying to remember anatomy. There have been some pretty bad anoxic events with a bargain plastic surgeon in command. ...I bet you could ask them to let your friend scrub into the procedure and just watch the sat monitor.