Debate User @Android Raptor If the bible supports abortion

How do you think you came into this world?
A malignant narcissist wanted a small dependant person she could abuse and get away with it
Yes! It's fucking horrible but they are literally made to handle it.
Except when they aren't and they fucking die or make dead baby soup with their kids in the bathtub because the post-partum psychosis voices in their head told them to and other shit pregnancy can result it

It can also rip your taint open, make your teeth fall out, and leave you permanently incontinent.
 
because the post-partum psychosis voices in their head told them to and shit
Yes, some women kill their children, because women are sometimes insane. Like you.

All the more reason to stop them, not give them the knife and say "have at it".

It can also rip your taint open, make your teeth fall out, and leave you permanently incontinent.
OMGSISTA DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN DIE FROM A WATER OVERDOSE???? WATER BAD!!!!!
 
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would like to note most republican anti abortion bills have an EXCEPTION for rape
Exactly. As I pointed out, the rape scenario is a Motte-and-Bailey for abortion advocates.
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They claim that abortion should be completely legalized (the Bailey,) then when you criticize the erasure of female accountability and senseless murder of children they retreat to the Motte, how abortion should be treated in cases of rape.

This way to someone with 70 IQ (the average voter) they haven't lost the argument and to themselves they can escape with their worldview (and by proxy their ego) intact.
 
I wonder if Android Raptor has an argument for abortion being OK outside of cases of rape.
It's called girls and women are people and deserve not to have less bodily autonomy than a corpse
 
People dying horribly: ok Embryos getting yeeted: NOOO Not muh heckin embryorinos!

Which includes not forcing them to give birth
Out of context you dumb dyke. Learn to read.

You support the death of children and beg for immunity from the potential harm of pregnancy in the same breath. That is case study hypocrisy. Your child is statistically worth more than you because it will probably live after you are gone, and reproduce to make more children which will do the same.
 
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I'm not the one that thinks children should be forced to give birth
I'm not the one that values children comparable to sea monkeys. Don't give me another whataboutism, you know that's cherrypicked and you're that much dumber for using it.

You have such strong opinions on the future of your nation, consider investing in it by contributing your fair share. But you can't, because you're insane.
 
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I'm not the one that thinks children should be forced to give birth
If you were certain in your position you'd be able to argue it from the most calm position, not a one surrounded by hysteria like "raped child forced to give birth at gunpoint". Why do you feel the need to glamorize your argument like a Dr Phil episode? Why don't you argue "I should be able to fuck raw and kill the child because I feel like it"? Is it because that's obviously monstrous?
 
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I'm not the one that values children comparable to sea monkeys.
Embryos aren't children and they are pretty comparable to sea monkeys. Probably less sentient actually. Sea monkeys are also way less likely to kill you.

Girls are children however, and forcing them to give birth shows you value them less than a brainless clump of tissue that's functionally a glorified tumor.
Why don't you argue "I should be able to fuck raw and kill the child because I feel like it"?
Because embryos aren't children and killing a child is what I'd do if I got pregnant and couldn't abort
 
Embryos aren't children and they are pretty comparable to sea monkeys. Probably less sentient actually.
You obviously have no concern for the future of your country or species.

Consider finding an equally mentally deranged "life partner" or whatever queer terminology you use now, get on a boat, and live on a deserted island sucking the juices both from the strange fruit you find and each others' birth canals.

Because embryos aren't children and killing a child is what I'd do if I got pregnant and couldn't abort
What are they then?
 
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Because embryos aren't children and killing a child is what I'd do if I got pregnant and couldn't abort
Would you still abort the baby if you were a week away from delivery and it would be a healthy birth with no complications?
edit: wait nvm you'd kill the child out of spite. I see. Very rational and mature response to being told, "No".
 
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It's called girls and women are people and deserve not to have less bodily autonomy than a corpse
Exactly! Bodily autonomy is important, but it also means you get to face the consequences of your actions. It also means you can't infringe on another human's bodily autonomy to get out of those consequences. Since you have such a hard-on for autonomy and all that.
I'm not the one that thinks children should be forced to give birth
That's interesting, and I agree with you don't get me wrong, but why do you think that? After all those children are not fully developed. They can not think, feel, perceive or act in the way a fully grown adult can. This, by the only standard that can make abortion moral, is grounds to make them do it as much as it is grounds to not make them do it, which would make it wrong to take a stance on as fact, after all the child is not yet human.
 
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Exactly! Bodily autonomy is important, but it also means you get to face the consequences of your actions. It also means you can't infringe on another human's bodily autonomy to get out of those consequences. Since you have such a hard-on for autonomy and all that.
Bodily autonomy means no one can use and endanger someone's body without consent. That's why they can't just remove your kidney without permission even if someone will die without it. Though I'm personally all for nonconsensual organ removal from prolifers until they understand how bodily autonomy works (I'm also for forced vasectomies of all prolife moids and moidletts).

Embryos aren't even people. They're nonsentient medical waste. That's like saying a tumor or tapeworm shouldn't be allowed to be removed from someone's body even if it will kill them.
Would you still abort the baby if you were a week away from delivery and it would be a healthy birth with no complications?
edit: wait nvm you'd kill the child out of spite. I see. Very rational and mature response to being told, "No".
No I'd kill it because babies are fucking nasty and pregnancy would probably make me literally psychotic
What are they then?
Medical waste. Ivf clinics destroy thousands daily.
 
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I expected the canned Planned Parenthood "clump of cells" take, but you really doubled down on the antinatalist take here.
They're medical waste the same way a removed tumor is and they end up in the medical incinerator all the same when clinics have no use for them.

It's only when they're in the bodies of people that don't want them there that people start insisting embryos are super spechul unique Jesus babies that should never be destroyed
 
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They're medical waste the same way a removed tumor is and the end up in the medical incinerator all the same when clinics have no use for them.

It's only when they're in the bodies of people that don't want them there that people start insisting embryos are super spechul unique Jesus babies
Unlike tumors, you used to be one of these pieces of "medical waste".

Hint: that's the special part.
 
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