Canada is a failed state

[Chandelier]

Most of them vote

Left is men, right is women.

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Heres what seats would look like if only women voted.

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Ask women why they voted for Indians on dating apps if they didn't want Indians on dating apps

From the same Maclean's article. If only men voted:



So you wouldn't even win even if all men voted. This is not divided by race, either: in the US, only white women voted for Trump in large numbers. All other non white women voted for Democrats, in the tune of 90% and above. In the UK the split is similar: conservative women tend to be more anti immigration along with the men vs Labour. This is not similar to the US where if only white men voted, it'd be a slam dunk Republican victory.

I wonder why every successful culture and religion in history, despite vastly different geography, development level, and gene distribution, all converged on not giving women much in the way of direct political power.

Must be patriarchal misogyny.

Before women had the right to vote, you still gave Jews and blacks the vote, and emancipated the former. Since Ellen Fairclough, the first woman to serve as Cabinet Minister ,will get a mention since she liberalized immigration policy, it still had to be signed off by the PM and the Senate - mostly made up of men. John Diefenbaker approved it, and was later reviled for his misdeeds (he also ruined relations between America and the UK). The Senate at that time was around 10% women. In 1953, it was 5%. That means 90% of men were still making the decisions and since the Progressive Cons had the government at the time, they were the ones making the decisions.

If liberal women are becoming aware of predatory Indian men and how backwards they are, that is a win however small it may be. You would NOT be seeing any disparaging of these groups even five years ago. It's gotten bad enough to where college students in 97% Indian Conestoga college are saying 'hey, these Indian men are following me. They're really creepy' even if their NPC programming prevents them from reaching its logical conclusions.

Or it could be that us women are fucking morons and have absolutely destroyed our reputation in the world.

Canadians like to pride themselves and being polite. However, in terms of immigration, same as everyone else, we were never asked. We simply believed that our point-based immigration system would work and would remain so. Besides, Trudeau has aged; he is no longer the 'sexy drama teacher' - who is suspected of fucking his underage students - but a tantrum-throwing old man who is getting beaten by a nerd with a taco wife.

Trudeau hopes he'll win among immigrants because they are his best base. They vote for the Liberals because it gives them free shit, and the Laurentian elites can get their cheap lawnmowers and bakers. I think there was a massive change with the trucker protests, because it really did show plenty of Canadians are tired of this shit. More and more Canadians are being 'openly racist' against Indians on Twitter and Reddit of all places. Take the wins when you can.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

So you wouldn't even win even if all men voted.

I'm not a conservative so its not about my team winning- the point Id highlight is, in a normal democratic process you would expect the two main opposition parties (coalitions, factions, etc) to be relatively even. For men, it largely is.

For women, on the other hand- they just seem to practically give their vote to the liberals en mass.

I'm sure that if we look into it, theres other similar skews with minorities, etc,

But such a skew, Id argue, shows less thought being put into a position, and more just some parochial attitude.

I'd argue the same of white men in the US if they overwhelmingly voted republican. You can criticize their party as well, because both have very, very similar positions on issues and rarely make peoples lives better- while virtue signaling on abortion and other things, continue to ship jobs overseas.

Even then though, a 5% gap for men, vs a 15% gap for women is a very large difference, so its not to say that men vote overwhelmingly republican in the same way that women vote overwhelmingly democratic/liberal.


Seeing a single demographic vote overwhelmingly for a single party does not show a healthy democracy. If anything, the split between liberal and conservatism in men is something that you should want to see, and women overwhelmingly voting liberal is a concern.

Since Ellen Fairclough, the first woman to serve as Cabinet Minister ,will get a mention since she liberalized immigration policy

If we're talking about how immigration policy was liberalized in the 50s, what term would you use to describe immigration policy over the past decade, let alone 5 years- or do you think our immigration policy today is the same as in the 50s? The ultra-liberalization of immigration policy in the mid 2010s I guess? Something has changed from then.

In 1953, it was 5%. That means 90% of men were still making the decisions and since the Progressive Cons had the government at the time, they were the ones making the decisions.

I don't think anyone has a problem with the immigration policy in the 50s except the actual far, far right. I dont think anyone had problems with the immigration policies of the 90s, even the 2000s. Its really the 2010s and the changes during this decade that are the breaking point for pretty much everyone.

However, in terms of immigration, same as everyone else, we were never asked

You were asked. Its called an election. Its called representative democracy. The average person cannot be consulted over, or mindful of bills, policies, economic data, etc. You instead choose someone to represent your voice on the issue. To make decisions on your behalf, because governing by referendum on every issue is impractical.

The question you were asked is "who will make good decisions on our behalf". Many saw Trudeau as vapid, positionless, slimy, and someone with no backbone who was just a front for the liberal party, which constantly preached about the benefits of immigration, spat on the working class, didnt care at the offshoring of jobs, was primarily concerned with the laptop class, etc. It takes about 10 minutes of googling to realize that the cabinet is staffed by inexperienced people just there because of cronyism, full of "activists" whose only experience is protesting climate change (not being in charge of a company, not in law, without prior experience working for a government ministry in a specific area, etc), and people enamored by the "progressive improvements instilled within Europe, and especially Germany, and their approaches to climate change and mass immigration"

You may not have been asked directly in a referendum on "do you want more indians on dating apps", but in all practical terms, you answered that question by voting in the type of people who would add more indians on dating apps. Thats the way representative democracy works.

the Laurentian elites can get their cheap lawnmowers and bakers.

Voting in the Laurentian elites and then saying "well they didn't ask me specifically if I wanted Indians on dating apps" and acting surprised that they were the type of people to do this is the same as the picture above essentially.

 

[Doctor Love]

pathological altruism

This is too nice.

It's more like - an abusive parent, who continually allows boyfriend after boyfriend to molest their children. The government wants to impress other governments, and take money for themselves while leaving the country to suffer.

 

[SilentDuck]

Trudeau hopes he'll win among immigrants because they are his best base. They vote for the Liberals because it gives them free shit, and the Laurentian elites can get their cheap lawnmowers and bakers. I think there was a massive change with the trucker protests, because it really did show plenty of Canadians are tired of this shit. More and more Canadians are being 'openly racist' against Indians on Twitter and Reddit of all places. Take the wins when you can.

Things are fracturing finally in terms of online shouting. Either people have the time now or are finally freaking the fuck out because things are not magically going back to normal and won't. The holiday 'libfag' Canadian subreddit scenes have them splintering into immigrant and non-immigrant camps. It's evident the commenters and mods can only be card carrying liberals or immigrants (or both). Same shit happend with the Canada housing subreddit at the peak of the bubble and it turning out an immigrant and liberal party member owned the sub and was deleting people's posts as 'racisms' and propaganda and banning anyone who questioned the LPC. Now we got even a MassImmigrationCanada sub that is pure doom fuel.

Yet people are still avowed supporters of either party/ideology (liberal, ndp, con). For the scant few, and I am assuming of the "dopey white", shade of liberals they are coming to their senses and part of that 1/3 that now oppose immigration. All it took was being dispossesd of their own country, being unable to afford to buy or even rent property, pursue post-secondary education, being unable to see a doctor, and being unable to get a high, mid or low paying job. Pajeets have all those wagie jobs now. One day gonna be likely unable to leave Canada because every other government is going to stop taking Canadians once the Pajeets start showing up with their citizenship papers. I can even see being unable to relocate within Canada internally on the horizon too since its basically havoc anywhere Pajeets and Ontarians show up. Take it up with MAID I guess, operators are standing by. And who the hell are the 2/3's still supporting mass immigration? Immigrants?

Also I remember one arguement I had with my boomer accountant 20 years ago that all RRSPs did was dump unlimited free capital into Canada's ologopoly's and every Canadian retard is incentivized to do it. I certainly see the taxation advantages, but as a mere 'idiot' I also saw something a bit wrong with showering these enterprises with free capital. And look what they have have used that capital for...

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

One day gonna be likely unable to leave Canada because every other government is going to stop taking Canadians once the Pajeets start showing up with their citizenship papers. I can even see being unable to relocate within Canada internally on the horizon too since its basically havoc anywhere Pajeets and Ontarians show up. Take it up with MAID I guess, operators are standing by. And who the hell are the 2/3's still supporting mass immigration? Immigrants?

Simple solution only accept white Canadians trying to flee Canada.

Also Ontario outside of Toronto is extremely rural. Don’t blame rural Ontario residents who were priced out of their hometowns of packing up and heading west.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

Simple solution only accept white Canadians trying to flee Canada.

White Canadians voted in Trudeau.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

White Canadians voted in Trudeau.

This is true. White Liberals who got everything and have multiple houses plus the worthless white Liberals with dumbfuck degrees and no money.

Once again, no middle class supporting them. Same with NDP.

 

[Troon Meet Noose]

Also Ontario outside of Toronto is extremely rural. Don’t blame rural Ontario residents who were priced out of their hometowns of packing up and heading west.

Ontario isn't that rural outside of the GTA unless you go north of Muskoka. But it really is GTA scum with some BC scum mixed in that is infesting the rest of the country with Liberal nonsense.

Like this cow...

https://torontolife.com/city/i-moved-to-alberta-and-hated-everything-about-it-after-three-months-i-came-back-to-toronto/

For the most part people non-GTA Ontario residents heading west or east are doing it because they're crowded out of their hometowns due to GTA residents moving in and pricing them out of their housing markets.

 

[PhoBingas]

Tangentially related: I am having a very hard time finding a pharmacy that is not primarily staffed by individuals with a tenuous grasp of the English language. I have a lot of experience with interpreting those with very thick accents, but it is getting to a point where they are having a hard time understanding me. Trying to inquire as to why a certain medication wasn't covered by the insurance cunts has taken upwards of an hour and a half, being transferred to numerous members of the staff.

Nothing on that level of potential danger, but I went to a drug store the other day hoping to get a certain type of pop. The store didn't have any, so I tried to ask a couple of the staff when they thought the next order would be in. Nobody there understood what I was asking. Thankfully all I needed was mix, I'd hate to think what would have happened if I was trying to get a prescription filled or something,

Just a random thought. I know that my fellow Kiwis from Leafland are skeptical of Poilievre, but much of his appeal for me is how he gets the shitlib TruAnons to chimp out over nothing. One of the most common refrains I hear from them is the criticism that PP is a career politician. Normally I would say that would be fair considering, that he was elected as the member from Carleton in 2004 when he was 24 years old. However, PP has (at least attempted to) capitalize on his backstory as the adopted son of two teachers who grew up in a time of economic hardship in Calgary so he has at least a basic understanding of working and middle class struggles.

I'm not holding my breath. Poilievre's still going to import half the turd world while gargling Yaniv's nuts out of the medical waste bin. I'm pretty sure his anti WEF talk is just that, talk.

 

[Blackhole]

Heres what seats would look like if only women voted.

now divide that statistic by race. very easy to shit on white women when the numbers are being skewed by shitskins.

Or it could be that us women are fucking morons and have absolutely destroyed our reputation in the world.

pandering to men will get you nowhere, moids will always hate you and see you as subhuman.

I'm not holding my breath. Poilievre's still going to import half the turd world while gargling Yaniv's nuts out of the medical waste bin. I'm pretty sure his anti WEF talk is just that, talk.

his wife is asian, he is never going to do anything about immigration because of that. maybe danielle smith will use the sovereignty act to stop the never ending hordes?

 

[DiscoRodeo]

now divide that statistic by race. very easy to shit on white women when the numbers are being skewed by shitskins.

Yeah, like I said

I'm sure that if we look into it, theres other similar skews with minorities, etc,

Maybe I expect women to be better, maybe you don't.


In other news

https://apnews.com/article/canada-gaza-visas-relatives-752ff63d37b51a5ad3a8620257a9014d

Can we please stop, for the love of God as well

 

[Konig]

New video series being started by Pierre I guess. Style seems good for appealing to normies. I don't care for the guy, but I'll take him over Trudeau any day.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I don't care for the guy, but I'll take him over Trudeau any day.

Trudeau sets the bar so low that it's not that impressive a feat. One of Poilievre's key strengths is that he is able to explain certain concepts so that normies can understand them while Trudeau speaks in platitudes. What I appreciated most about this video is how PP cited past financial crises like the 2008 subprime meltdown in the United States and Greek debt crisis of the same year as examples for what is likely to happen. He made is especially relevant to Canadians by citing the hard austerity of the 1990s. One of the Liberal Party's favorite scare tactics is to claim the PP and the Conservatives will slash spending and social programs. Well, here's a news flash for them: Jean Chretien was the leader of the Liberal Party and he made those kind of cuts after coming to power in 1993 after his predecessors ran nothing but massive deficits throughout the seventies and eighties. Similarly, the video points out that the NDP government of Saskatchewan at the time was closing hospitals because the money simply wasn't there.

The LPC's most notable flaws will always be their hubris, corruption, and willful ignorance. None of them picked up a history text to realize that Canada had been in similar financial straits in 1983 and thus believe that they more knowledgeable than the politicians of forty years ago. However, (again, citing the video) history rhymes because they fail to learn from it. One problem with $10 a day child care that no one discusses are that spaces are limited and there is a waiting list of two to five years so there is no assurance that you will get one. Plus, I doubt that will offset the cost of a mortgage at these interest rates, which will persist long after said child is out of daycare.

You can bet your life that the LPC will only half-heartedly commit to half-measures with their idiot base believing that the problem will correct itself, but that's the thing, the left in this country have no follow through. Trudeau and the Canadian left made a big deal about our peacekeeping mission to Mali, but we quietly pulled out (despite UN requests to stay) after our tour ended because it wasn't "glamorous" anymore. Similarly, the government issues a one-time grocery rebate that doesn't even chip at most families' food bills and yells at the grocery chain CEOs for show, but refuses to do more than that. All the while they bring in boatloads of immigrants despite the lack of housing and infrastructure for them while they chase their crazed green economy scheme, which is they only thing they are wholly committed to. The problem is that they assume that the money and materials is going to appear out of the aether.

It's not just middle age-to senior white women who are the problem here, many of Trudeau's most ardent supporters are old-stock Canadian men who operate under the archaic notion that the Conservatives are MAGA North and the corporate party. Never mind the fact that the Liberals were in bed the pharmaceuticals and bribing Volkswagen and Stellantis to open plants in Ontario. The Canadian left are some of the laziest and most entitled morons on the planet. Poilievre is correct when he says there's no reason why Canada can't build infrastructure or develop our own resources. We have untold mineral wealth that could reduce our dependence on easily-disrupted supply chains, but Trudeau would rather please Uncle Klaus and indulge his white messiah complex. His supporters would rather believe that they are saving the Earth by extracting wealth from the dwindling middle class and exploiting immigrants for cheap labor.

I'm not saying that PP and the Conservatives are the answer. They are just as myopic as the Liberals in many ways because they refuse to look at the big picture. Much of the rot in Canadian politics and the broader culture is much deeper than any party will ever care to admit. It may take nothing short of a revolution to address it. The problem is that decades of prosperity have rendered Canadians lazy and complacent to the point where they believe that world will bend over to satiate their desire for instant gratification. Some may be slowly awakening to this fact, but it's not nearly enough.

 

[wry wrangler]

I just hate all Indians, and I wish they would all be deported.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

I just hate all Indians, and I wish they would all be deported.

Which ones.

 

[Fatboi Gus]

Which ones.

Yes.

 

[wry wrangler]

Which ones.

Correct.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

Correct.

What about niggers? Sand and otherwise?

 

[Kiwisee]

I'm not sure how many of you Leafs are aware of how often violent, murderous schizos get released from prison but it's happens way more often than you think.

At this point, if you know someone with shizophrenia it’s for your own safety to stay the hell away from them. They can murder you and then be released in less than a decade to live a “normal” life, despite being a ticking time bomb.

Until the Justice system stops letting these schizos out, it's one of the few times where “stigma” is well warranted.

I don't care if it makes me “hateful” or whatever. Stigmatizing until life sentences return is a good thing.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Similarly, the government issues a one-time grocery rebate that doesn't even chip at most families' food bills and yells at the grocery chain CEOs for show, but refuses to do more than that.

In some sense, they're structurally unable to do anything other than half measures.

The big problem with being a big tent political party is, and this is quoting Sowell, there's no perfect solutions or magic fixes, everything comes at a cost.

I'll highlight this, as we've discussed prior: Housing is way too much, rent is way too much. What can you do here? Possibly rent control, possibly increasing interest on loans, etc. Everything comes at a cost though and the housing crisis is not like 2008- in Canada, if 2008 was a firecracker, this is basically a nuclear bomb at this point.

It has to go off, but should housing collapse, basically all boomers would lose the vast, vast portion of their savings. The bubble will pop eventually, but I'm sure that they're hoping that more boomers are dead by then.

So, the liberals have to take a half measure in the meantime, because they frankly can't do much on the matter.

Even then though, most Canadians would be irate, but understand. What makes them angry is that, at the least- you want the governing party to not make things worse. I think most people had doomerish views on housing before the mass immigration scheme, but the situation could be marginally accepted. Add that, theyre going to squeeze us more with mass immigration (and also do nothing about Chinese investment scams) and you get where we are currently.

I'm not particularly for half measures, but if you look at the way that Canada is, for example: over here:

Its not an exaggeration to say that the country essentially is run by business cartels, when you also include these parties being in bed with pharmaceuticals, groceries, practically everything

Presidents choice, Shoppers, etc are owned by Loblaw's for example (The Weston family).

The situation should either be viewed as dire, or ironically unchanged from the 19th century. Frankly, we basically still have a family compact running the country, with half of our major business cartels having ties to said group themselves.

The theory was, Canadian companies cannot compete with American ones, so we need to prop up our own companies, instill trade protectionism, and have the government step in time-to-time to give them a cash influx. We've done that, and its made them less globally competitive (they dont even exist outside of Canada) and often prices and procurement prices are drastically higher.

That's besides the point though, when government is in bed with business, let alone business cartels- you can only really ask them for things nicely, and can't rock that relationship too much. I'm not saying that the conservatives are any better, but this is just the structural situation that Canada has that makes anything other than half measures very, very unlikely.

It's not just middle age-to senior white women who are the problem here, many of Trudeau's most ardent supporters are old-stock Canadian men who operate under the archaic notion that the Conservatives are MAGA North and the corporate party.

I agree that its not just women who are the problem (though they contribute the most being over represented in the laptop class and much more likely to cuck for the liberals than men), but you're right- there is a brain rot in Canada. The biggest problem, is said laptop class in my opinion. The people who aren't feeling the squeeze themselves, and the ironic Marie Antoinettes who just can't seem to relate to the Canadian dollar losing 20% of its value internationally, the squeeze on groceries, rent, etc. The people who don't understand that their own politics caused these problems, and who don't have any sort of plan to fix this because theyre actually fine with the status quo, they just want a Frappuccino to be a bit cheaper. The dollar doesnt go as far when theyre on vacation? I cry, the dollar losing its value has much more impact when youre someone working in a company that has to deal with the international supply chain directly.

Their problems are not the same as the average Canadians problems.

Some may be slowly awakening to this fact, but it's not nearly enough.

I think that many are, but theyre not really politically or historically literate to understand the source of these problems, and the solutions proposed, they dont really address the structural damage- or worse, you have outright denial from the liberal party. Thats where I get the most sense of doom.