Kevin Gibes / Kathryn Gibes / TransSalamander / RageTreb / The Green Salamander - "Am hole:" The epitomized Twitter MtF you thought was just a myth! Donate to his Transformers toy fund today!

I haven't checked in after about a year, and kevin is still coping that his next revision will fix everything. Still lining up to have a completely useless surgery, though this time they are looking to thin his facial bones, so who know might do the undertaker some good at least.

His fashion sense remains nonexistent, his addictions unchanged, and his prospects just as poor. I swear if the farms is still up in thirty years he'll be the next tommy tooter.
 
Kev update:

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Swear this speaks more to the insane larper dude from the Tranch who's living on a reclusive snowy mountain with his dogkin mtf bf and some other tranny than it does to Kevin, but I do like the thought that Kevin thinks his mom at all imagines he "turned out just fine".

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Heh.

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Trannies leave kids the fuck alone challenge.

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Some weird gross porn:
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Degeneracy somehow ensues:
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More troons should use their real faces as pfps, it adds so much flavor.

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More consooming. I swear this Hazbin Hotel arc is the boringest of Kevin's hyperfixations.

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"Gonna do my morning dilation before opening this, because I love to savor the moment~" :cryblood:

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Using kids to validate your larp, #realgorlthings.

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Reee twansphobes not wanting us to groooom.

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It doesn't exist, bud.

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I think this is referring to "Steph" (the Brit troon)?

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"money being tight" says the man who spent like $500+ on random shit over the past month or so?

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Cute cat to cleanse the palate.
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Reee twansphobes not wanting us to groooom.
The truth is, trans does appeal to little kid logic. "Well some people are thought to be girls but want to be boys for the rest of their lives, so they're trans" isn't the hard part. The hard part is explaining why Uncle Marvin became Uncle Marie, why Marie PERSONALLY chose to become a woman when the kid points out all the male things Marie has done and liked, why Marie spends so much money on clothes and nails but doesn't wear them properly, why Aunt Mary is upset about Marie's new life and why their children (the child's cousins) are upset, why are other people uncomfortable around Uncle Marie, why can't Marie stay a man if Marie doesn't like shaving and such, and so on. The problem is kids are good at poking logic if they get a bug in them - once they grow up out of the play pretend age, they'll begin to ask questions about anything that confuses them. What's the uncomfortable truth about cousin Sophie becoming cousin Rowan, why is she so upset all the time and why does everyone hate Uncle Lester so much, with her hating him the most?

Those are personal thing related to family though. Why can a boy wear a skirt but still be a boy yet another boy wearing a skirt be a girl? How do you keep rules like that consistent when Kevin himself said something about how queer logic is inherently contradictory and that's what is beautiful about it? When a kid asks these questions, then decides their friend or family is still a boy even if he wears a skirt because of said trans girl's knobby knees, square jaw, deep voice, and boy hobbies? What the hell are the parents supposed to say without decades of kweer theory under their belt like Kevvie?

The problem is that trans logic is held up by society to a point: IRL people do it out of politeness. They want to get on with their day and usually do it with as little rudeness to others as possible, they don't want to make either party's life difficult, especially their own. Trans logic isn't questioned because people don't want to care about it or be involved in it. Kevin melts down or blocks people when he doesn't have an answer, and other people can't do the same for their children. So confessing to the child "I am not sure how it works, but they get upset if we don't play along since I notice the same things you do" is probably the most honest answer and the one Kevin REALLY DOESN'T WANT SAID. Kevin is lucky most children only go with acceptance in the moment like most normal people, and he doesn't have to deal with them as they age.

I think this is referring to "Steph" (the Brit troon)?
Nah, I forgot the new live-in girlfriend's name but there's a new dude in drag in his house.

"money being tight" says the man who spent like $500+ on random shit over the past month or so
Kevin could run an action figure museum with his dedication to buying each and every single one, as if that's his job and his expenses are normal. And yet he's so stuck on "people give things to me = love???" that hilariously, any present wrapped up and given to him makes him cry. I just can't, man. :story:

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To this day he will get asshurt at buffalo bill comments. :story:

On the state of his chesticles: I am surprised that they aren't worse, the surgeon did his damndest. But this is Kevin squeezing his arms to his side so they don't slide off his chest further. This is what women in a relaxed position would look like but lol, Kevin cannot relax or else the sides slide down like butter.
 
And yet he's so stuck on "people give things to me = love???" that hilariously, any present wrapped up and given to him makes him cry. I just can't, man
Maybe send him a gift wrapped box of shit and see if that makes him cry?

Make sure it is clearly labeled to him though, so that him and Jen fight over it.
 
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The problem is that trans logic is held up by society to a point: IRL people do it out of politeness. They want to get on with their day and usually do it with as little rudeness to others as possible, they don't want to make either party's life difficult, especially their own. Trans logic isn't questioned because people don't want to care about it or be involved in it. Kevin melts down or blocks people when he doesn't have an answer, and other people can't do the same for their children. So confessing to the child "I am not sure how it works, but they get upset if we don't play along since I notice the same things you do" is probably the most honest answer and the one Kevin REALLY DOESN'T WANT SAID. Kevin is lucky most children only go with acceptance in the moment like most normal people, and he doesn't have to deal with them as they age.
Sorry for this insanely long post and so many quotes! You are spot on though. I've seen plenty of angry posts from trannies seething that some kid clocked them and wouldn't play along (usually slightly older kids, middle school age if I had to guess) while small children might see a man in a dress and be willing to play pretend because the 6' gigahon has a bow in his hair and a skirt and to a little kid, those signify "girl" enough to go along. What you've written is an uncomfortable truth for all trannies, and it's sad that people like Kevin see something as relatively innocuous as "kids like playing pretend and are willing to go along with, or (more nefariously) even be groomed into delusional beliefs because they literally don't have the brain development older kids and adults have" and turned it into "akshually that validates my insane beliefs". it also is slightly worrying that in general trannies seem fixated on the idea that kids seem to "accept" them so why can't adults? It reminds me of older "MAPs" using stupid ass teens being stupid ass teens who go along with it as an excuse for their behavior, instead of acknowledging that kids are generally Not That Smart and it's adults' job to not take advantage of that. There is a huge gap between "aw, Timmy thinks he can catch the moon if he jumps high enough!" and "Timmy believes girls can have penises because a 40 year old man who chopped his off has told him so".

Getting this weird validation derived from children specifically, and even more specifically often little girls, really screams pedo energy to me. So many "this little girl validated me and gave me euphoria" posts and obscure trans grooming circles being exposed have turned me very cynical towards any mention of children from a tranny. I don't think Kevin is necessarily getting off on it sexually, but I'm sure he'd loooove to trans some poor kid and I'm sure there are trannies who do ge their rocks off on it who have hitched their wagon to Kevin and his ilk for the easy coom. Gets me MATI sometimes.

Nah, I forgot the new live-in girlfriend's name but there's a new dude in drag in his house.
That makes sense, thanks for the lore :heart-full: I lose track of Kevin's polycule "gfs" as they all are so gd similar and he cycles through lovebombing new ones so often.
And yet he's so stuck on "people give things to me = love???" that hilariously, any present wrapped up and given to him makes him cry. I just can't, man. :story:
What gets me is he hoards all his money for himself to buy shiny toys even when his ✨queer transbian revolutionary polycule✨ is/was in need. He also posts fairly often about receiving X gift from other men but so rarely posts about buying a gift for any of his partners, not even for Penny. For a dude whose love language seems to basically be feeding his consumerism it's sad that he doesn't really seem to care about giving it back to the only people who tolerate him irl. I know it's obvious but especially at a time that's all about gifts and giving, it's remarkable how selfish he can be. (Not even to get into how he ties love to materialism - peak tranny behavior).
On the state of his chesticles: I am surprised that they aren't worse, the surgeon did his damndest. But this is Kevin squeezing his arms to his side so they don't slide off his chest further.
It really isn't as bad as it could be but yeah. Kudos to the surgeon but it's a shame it was paid for by the taxpayers. The weird crease at the top and the pathetic cleavage attempt plus the acne (???) on the bottom of his moob are unfortunate to say the least. At a passing glance it could be boobs, but alas...
 
Sorry for this insanely long post and so many quotes!
No problem, half the post I make on this site are those type of post. :D

Getting this weird validation derived from children specifically, and even more specifically often little girls, really screams pedo energy to me. So many "this little girl validated me and gave me euphoria" posts and obscure trans grooming circles being exposed have turned me very cynical towards any mention of children from a tranny. I don't think Kevin is necessarily getting off on it sexually, but I'm sure he'd loooove to trans some poor kid and I'm sure there are trannies who do ge their rocks off on it who have hitched their wagon to Kevin and his ilk for the easy coom. Gets me MATI sometimes.
I think for Kevin and other stunted adults, it's twofold: he can relate to kids because he has (severe) Peter Pan syndrome like many trans people (not as severe usually), and that kids are the future, and the future will obviously be a step forward to a more progressive better future society. They forget social morals change each century and even by decade, but their memory doesn't go that far back.

Otherwise, pedo vibes is pretty accurate for some. It feels pedo adjacent since it gives a lot of autonomy and authority to children to know the right thing. You CAN know the right thing as a child, but it doesn't mean you can make choices for yourself the way an adult would. It's giving children too much credit on fully making choices for themselves with informed views, which isn't true if you've seen a child. The giving kids more power is creepy because it is a justification pedos use to get children closer to them, eww. For at least half of all troons it is on accident because of their own stunted hurt feelings from childhood and "kids are right and will replace your old ass when you die" imo.

The weird crease at the top and the pathetic cleavage attempt plus the acne (???) on the bottom of his moob are unfortunate to say the least. At a passing glance it could be boobs, but alas...
Alas... Poor Frankenstein's monster probably had a much more normal chest than he does. The surgeon did his damndest and since Kevin doesn't look like a cartoon character/is chasing the ever growing tower of coom, he is disappointed. Shame.
What gets me is he hoards all his money for himself to buy shiny toys even when his ✨queer transbian revolutionary polycule✨ is/was in need. He also posts fairly often about receiving X gift from other men but so rarely posts about buying a gift for any of his partners, not even for Penny.
@glass_houses posted about how people in "dom/dominant" roles in these type of weird relationships insist on always being the one to provide, always being the responsible one, and getting taken advantage of because they refuse any help and are walked on by their subs. Considering Penny is insane enough to do house repair jobs in other people's houses while being armed with his own sidearm (buried in the tranch thread), I wouldn't be surprised. He said he was sexually abused when he was a teen, to the point of needing repair surgery on his lower intestines, and the way he acts I don't doubt him. :( I feel bad, then I remember the 'pacas we lost.

For a dude whose love language seems to basically be feeding his consumerism it's sad that he doesn't really seem to care about giving it back to the only people who tolerate him irl. I know it's obvious but especially at a time that's all about gifts and giving, it's remarkable how selfish he can be. (Not even to get into how he ties love to materialism - peak tranny behavior).
Talking about his love language being sharing all his fandoms and experiencing the joy of it with others makes me think he doesn't really want a loved one, he wants a clone. Someone who agrees with him on all things and gets super excited about the same things he does. You are either his parent like Penny, or his totally awesome nerd friend who is just him but in a different body. Maybe that's why he likes dronification or however you spell it, he wants instant friends he looks cool and always agrees with and a protective figure to make sure he gets tendies and toys. That's fucking depressing, honestly.
 
Some bluesky posts, I'm retarded and can't figure out how to do full size screenshots (they keep breaking) so bear with me.

Kevin being a consoomer:
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(fun fact, if I've got it right this toy is $180)
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Plastering your PC in porn, just smexy kweer gorl things.
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link / archive

He got the bdsm book:
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Donated to some tranny:
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New Kev selfie:
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And some more nsfw ones:
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I love that even literal plastic surgery can't fix his chameleon moobs.

Edit: palate cleanser. Really cute kitties, they don't deserve being holed up in a tranny den :(
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Nigga looks like his surgeon got confused and put knee replacements in instead of implants hahaha

If I was a taxpayer of Colorado I wouldn't even be mad, that troll surgeon has earned his fee
 
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Using kids to validate your larp, #realgorlthings.

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This doesn't prove anything about kids other than they accept simple explanations on face value from adults. Which, yes, everyone knows this. It's why Santa Claus works to pick a recent example. I can also tell them "it's because he's a weirdo boy who wants to sometimes be a girl" and they'll accept it. I can tell them "he's stupid" and they'll accept it.

You're supposed to grow up and realize the world is more nuanced, that limitations exist, not cling to the simple world of possibilities you falsely perceived as a child. The irony is how many of you communists do this while claiming it's actually seeing the real truth of reality. So you start talking about how kids or anyone you can depict as childlike in their ignorance (especially if they aren't white) as being "more knowledgeable" because they're ignorant and you wish that ignorance was the real world. What you're doing is trying to force your own simplistic conception to be real by demanding everyone else operate by it even though the "nuance" is that people believing shit does not determine reality.

To quote something more on your intellectual and emotional level that will still be too intellectual (and emotional) for you to understand: "I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to."

Chase these dreams Kevin.
 
No problem, half the post I make on this site are those type of post. :biggrin:
Extraordinarily late but it's fun to read those types of posts! It's one of the things that makes this fruit farm a special place, lots of room for discussion.
Otherwise, pedo vibes is pretty accurate for some. It feels pedo adjacent since it gives a lot of autonomy and authority to children to know the right thing. You CAN know the right thing as a child, but it doesn't mean you can make choices for yourself the way an adult would.
Totally agree with the first point and this one explained why it comes off so pedo-y very well. Also partially explains to me why so many are all about the PrOtEcT TrAnS KiDs thing - definitely more to it than that alone but there's definitely strong undertones of envy and living vicariously through kids while being an aging balding man. Depressing all around.
Alas... Poor Frankenstein's monster probably had a much more normal chest than he does. The surgeon did his damndest and since Kevin doesn't look like a cartoon character/is chasing the ever growing tower of coom, he is disappointed. Shame.
Forever chasing the dragon :( Genuinely don't think even if he did become a seggsy furry anime girl he'd ever be satisfied, a lot of his kinks seem to center around extremes and pushing boundaries and there doesn't seem to be any particular endgame besides the extremity itself. You can't feasibly go further than turning into a beach ball but even if he did somehow magically end up in his TF fantasy, I can see him chasing the next high rather than living his days as an inflatable furry pool toy (as much as I hate those words). It's just never enough for them.
@glass_houses posted about how people in "dom/dominant" roles in these type of weird relationships insist on always being the one to provide, always being the responsible one, and getting taken advantage of because they refuse any help and are walked on by their subs.
I guess I'll just never understand. I do feel somewhat bad for Penny too but he's been psychoanalyzed to death in the Tranch thread and in a way he's really made his own bed (alpacas notwithstanding, he did literally sign up for this situation with Kevin and shit-eater) but it's still bizarre to me that Kevin would even bother to try to whip out the "oh noes I'm broke" excuse for his other bfs outside of Penny's weird polycule situation if it's a weird kink thing. Not that it's important, it's just pathetic.
Talking about his love language being sharing all his fandoms and experiencing the joy of it with others makes me think he doesn't really want a loved one, he wants a clone. Someone who agrees with him on all things and gets super excited about the same things he does.
AGP to the max, for real. It's amusing in its own right but it really is depressing. An absolutely stunted deviant of a man who's rapidly approaching middle age and yet operates like a selfish kid. What astounds me is that he's held up as some sort of aspirational figure - I know "trans elders" are in short supply but ffs Kevin offers so very little even then. My best guess is he's relatable but it really speaks volumes that this is the among the best of tranny role models, apparently, since he gets referenced so often in terms of "cracking eggs".
 
What astounds me is that he's held up as some sort of aspirational figure - I know "trans elders" are in short supply but ffs Kevin offers so very little even then. My best guess is he's relatable but it really speaks volumes that this is the among the best of tranny role models, apparently, since he gets referenced so often in terms of "cracking eggs".
I don't think he is.

You have to remember a few things, first is that troons on Twitter are not actually a large group they only seem so because our evolutionary understanding of large groups peaks around 1000 people so ~30,000 troons seems like a shitload but it is in fact remarkably small. They wouldn't fill many football stadiums. From that you also have to remember that the 1% (of all people, not just troons) that "drive" Twitter are an additional perceptual mirage, they all amplify each other (even the ones that oppose each other) which is less a function of their true popularity and more a function of their presence. They spend all day on Twitter so they are there all day to say things and have things said about them. What you're really seeing with Twitter, and Facebook/etc., is typical social groupings stripped of their geographical and temporal limitations but which we don't consciously have awareness of this factor. Yes, Kevin seems to have a large following until you stop and look at how the entire group if you double it would still be 1% of 1% of the 1% of Twitter users who use it daily. Adjusted to a population size we're more familiar with, it'd be Kevin and like three other weird dudes in the corner. Like he was at that one convention begging for people to come visit him.

Second, all of this is bad faith in these groups. Kevin is easier to ignore than bring down because he's irrelevant, if he was truly powerful someone would take him down and the mobs would come out. Look at Keffals. The Tranch was instead embarrassing in a way that dictated pretending it never happened, something the Tranch assisted in by fleeing to safe havens to hide rather than continue their Twitter presence. It's not just Kevin's boasting about the Kiwi Farms, remember when he tried to cancel that one Furcon? Tried to wield his power against others adjacent in the pervertsphere? All useless. Kevin is harmless so there's no reason not to dig up his single claim to fame, a narcissistic tweet, for others to tell their own dumb stories.

If you could hypothetically assemble some kind of troon gathering somewhere in the real world and you asked them about "Kathryn Gibes" they'd have no idea who it is. If you said "transsalamander" there'd be a handful. Even the other people there who follow Kevin would recognize him purely as another loser like them on their feed only if you showed them his face. These "brands" are entirely ephemeral, if Twitter stays at the top and BlueSky (or whatever else Kevin gloms onto) is a stillbirth and Kevin never goes back, he'll be forgotten in no time even among the troon circles it seems like he's part of now.

Lastly, Kevin being an "absolutely stunted deviant of a man" is a bonus not a detriment because the target audience is other stunted men who wish to stay kids who are desperate for normal social interaction and the trappings of friendship but too stunted to understand how to achieve these with the non-stunted. Kevin is aspirational because he shows that no, you don't have to do anything and you can still get online friends and real-life friends girlfriends while never having to grow up. Remember, they think their struggles are unique and unprecedented not common things that even the "popular kids" in school will experience as they age. Most of Kevin's audience are shut-ins with literally nobody, Kevin's life being ever so better and much more "liberated" (since he doesn't have to even work or ever leave the house) helps affirm their conviction that they're doing things just fine and the only thing that needs to change is everyone else.
 
I don't think he is.

You have to remember a few things, first is that troons on Twitter are not actually a large group they only seem so because our evolutionary understanding of large groups peaks around 1000 people so ~30,000 troons seems like a shitload but it is in fact remarkably small. They wouldn't fill many football stadiums.
Really solid point and one I hadn't really considered. 30k just seems like a relatively large number but put that way, it really isn't (and that furry con is a great example of how irrelevant he actually is, even as a part of a "charity"). Thanks for putting it in perspective :heart-full:
It's not just Kevin's boasting about the Kiwi Farms, remember when he tried to cancel that one Furcon? Tried to wield his power against others adjacent in the pervertsphere? All useless. Kevin is harmless so there's no reason not to dig up his single claim to fame, a narcissistic tweet, for others to tell their own dumb stories.
It's sort of incredible how little influence he actually has. Thinking on it now, his main relevancy on Bluesky seems to be due to hitching his wagon to some other, more prolific mtf and he clung pretty hard to his "role" in the Tranch when it was still touted as a revolutionary queer commune or whatever.

He doesn't create things, even bad fetish art, and his Hot Trans Takes aren't spicy at all. I shouldn't say I was worried he's too influential or something (lol), but I had overinflated his influence in online tranny spheres a bit too much for his credit.
These "brands" are entirely ephemeral, if Twitter stays at the top and BlueSky (or whatever else Kevin gloms onto) is a stillbirth and Kevin never goes back, he'll be forgotten in no time even among the troon circles it seems like he's part of now.
Kevin is aspirational because he shows that no, you don't have to do anything and you can still get online friends and real-life friends girlfriends while never having to grow up. Remember, they think their struggles are unique and unprecedented not common things that even the "popular kids" in school will experience as they age.
10/10 analysis. I really do appreciate the insight - it's easy to lose the forest for the trees. Monkey brain went off a bit for me there!

Anyways, more Kev!

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MATI moment but trannies keep your hands off Donna ffs, you've done enough as it is :'(

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More Dr. Who sperging.

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Oof.

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Gibes getting the gibs.

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Getting deadnamed by roomba.

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It's like an AGP arms race, I swear I saw a few calling their dicks "princess wands" completely unironically and in (insomuch as it can be) an erotic way, but now it's icky and gross apparently lol.

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Nothing says mentally stable like continuously checking engagement on "skeets".

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Anybody with functioning genitals wouldn't consider it to be sex, either.

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"I merely ASPIRE to be a sex maniac" we know Kevin, we know.
Plus some islamic dilation details I did not need to learn.

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Might be interesting to someone ig?

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It never ceases to amaze how they can act like this and then say it's not a fetish while using literal futa porn as jerkoff fuel. Also, "macaroni sounds".

Some spicier stuff -

Kevin apparently asked to get rizzed up by his followers, and is big mad that he only attracts other uggo troons.
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Half of these sound one step removed from trying to lure a young nerdy boy into a van, christ.
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He also apparently needs a new tablet stand to art, which I am frankly looking forward to.
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Insane levels of cope here. Also how do you know they're cis 🤔
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"oh heck that reminds me I have a new sexy set of tits to piss on" wew lad.
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Yet another timeline, 99.9999% sure these have all been posted upthread so not going to bother with full images:
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Capping it off with an amusing self-own:
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Didn't Kevin cancel a bunch of toy orders, and make another vow to buy less? 'Cause it sure doesn't seem that way.
I swear he did, but I think we all knew that wasn't going to happen. He claims that he doesn't need to obsessively hoard/"collect" toys because something something transition fulfilled him or whatever but it's gotten quite insane. Now that he's fallen into Hazbin Hotel he's, if anything, ramped up because he has another shiny new hyperfixation to spend on (as if he didn't already have his shelves overflowing with Transformers and Pokemon and MTG and Dr. Who and kweer furry trans porn and so on and so on).

IIRC he had only been introduced to HH a week prior to dropping $80 on the full package for it and is now buying merch out the wazoo. Whether it's his money or gibs from his followers or tugboat money, it's still wild to see him spiral so fast into something relatively new to him.
 
Because it's the end of the year, thought I'd check up on some old frenemies: Neck, Wedge and Demodeview! Not archiving this because they're all irrelevant losers, this is purely for nostalgia.

Wedge and Neck still don't have a BlueSky because they're not cool like Kevvy. They seem to still interact but rarely openly online. Wedge stopped tweeting for a bit after November. Neck has a 'puppy' slave that he has sex with and retweets often. He also follows a gross pooner called @CurzyTheClown. He apparently holds down a job, despite coomposting daily.

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But the real suprise is Demodeview aka Ryan, who has not only acquired a Bluesky account but also trooned out. Meet Dina! Of course, all he posts is endless whining, and he is not popular. He does not follow Kevin on Bluesky, which is interesting. Did Kevin finally get sick of him?

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Regardless, for 2024 count yourself lucky that you are not a Z-list participant in the Kevin Gibes Extended Universe!
 
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Wonder if Neck ever regrets leaving his wife and 4 kids to go live in a motel and fuck gay guys…. I mean girl puppies?
Nah, he’s living his best life!
Well, yeah. He doesn't have to parent, take care of a house or work, and he gets to have degrading sex with anyone desperate enough to let him stick it in. He watches children's television alternated with hardcore pornography all day, and sycophants tell him he's hot whenever he posts a photo of his arsehole online.

What's hell on earth to pretty much any sane adult is the perfect life for a narcissistic sex pest like himself.
 
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