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MK8 cheats by counting bundles. So do almost all other games on both lists, to be fair, but MK8 was Nintendo's big Christmas bundle for years and had a much higher rate of bundling than the others.
There's truth to this. if we are calling spades on both sides a good amount of spiderman and god of war sales are bundles as well. Up until recently you couldn't purchase a ps5 without it being a bundle with one of those games. Since the ps5 slim model came out has been the first break since the forced bundle by Sony to inflate sales.

But many of those on that list aren't bundles. Botw and totk were never bundled with a console, neither was animal crossing. Despite them having themed consoles for those games the game was never included in the box.
 
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MK8 cheats by counting bundles. So do almost all other games on both lists, to be fair, but MK8 was Nintendo's big Christmas bundle for years and had a much higher rate of bundling than the others.
True, but if the Switch had to have a single must-buy game that you could recommend to anyone, it would probably be MK8. It has such a universal appeal that I think a lot of people who bought those bundles would have bought the game anyway had they gotten a standalone console instead, compared to something like Spider-Man or God of War. There’s no way to know for sure of course, but that’s what I’d assume.
But many of those on that list aren't bundles. Botw and totk were never bundled with a console, neither was animal crossing. Despite them having themed consoles for those games the game was never included in the box.
Didn’t Animal Crossing recently get a Switch Lite bundle? Though that’s still way after the bulk of its sales.
 
2023 ended and PS5 still has no games.
Nothing at all. But hey, looking forward to that slim model (which doesn't solve any of the cooling issues the fat one has) and the "pro" model.
Even the PS3, which was originally mocked for not having games initially had actual games worth playing at this point (Jan 1, 2010) in it's lifespan.
 
Even the PS3, which was originally mocked for not having games initially had actual games worth playing at this point (Jan 1, 2010) in it's lifespan.
>Uncharted 1 & 2
>Resistance 1 & 2
>Killzone 2
>LBP 1
>GoW 3 (in 2.5 months)
>Heavy Rain (in 1.5 months, not a "real" game)

and that's just off the top of my head
 
>Uncharted 1 & 2
>Resistance 1 & 2
>Killzone 2
>LBP 1
>GoW 3 (in 2.5 months)
>Heavy Rain (in 1.5 months, not a "real" game)

and that's just off the top of my head
Remember the Motorstorm games? Those were fun racing games to play at the gaming kiosk at Target and Gamestop in 2007 when the PS3 was still new.
 
I came up with a few ideas for Wolverine that I thought were kinda neat.

Since he has no way of quick traversal like Spider-Man does, they seem to have given him the ability to jump through rooftops really fast like Talion from the Middle Earth games. It would be fun if they added the odd scenario where Wolverine breaks a limb or two every now and then while zooming around rooftops.

Insomniac incorporating medkits and a health bar into the games is incredibly lazy, and just goes to show that they only chose to make a Wolverine game because he's the only big character Disney would allow them to have. I would instead make the combat more swarm focused instead like Dead Rising. The enemies who are aware of Logan's abilities would try to restrain him instead by any means necessary (ropes, chains, etc). Imagine having enemies cut your arm off and then run off with it, thus forcing you to chase them around so you can reclaim it and reattach it to your body. Now that would make for a fun game.

I am not even a fan of the X-Men or Wolverine and I was never paid to come up with these ideas. Does no one at Insomniac even care about the product that they're making? There is no excuse for butchering Wolverine like this. As a fan of other comic books I am kinda baffled by this. There are people being paid to go through X-Men comics that were unable to come up with literally anything fun to do with the character of Wolverine.
 
I came up with a few ideas for Wolverine that I thought were kinda neat.

Since he has no way of quick traversal like Spider-Man does, they seem to have given him the ability to jump through rooftops really fast like Talion from the Middle Earth games. It would be fun if they added the odd scenario where Wolverine breaks a limb or two every now and then while zooming around rooftops.

Insomniac incorporating medkits and a health bar into the games is incredibly lazy, and just goes to show that they only chose to make a Wolverine game because he's the only big character Disney would allow them to have. I would instead make the combat more swarm focused instead like Dead Rising. The enemies who are aware of Logan's abilities would try to restrain him instead by any means necessary (ropes, chains, etc). Imagine having enemies cut your arm off and then run off with it, thus forcing you to chase them around so you can reclaim it and reattach it to your body. Now that would make for a fun game.

I am not even a fan of the X-Men or Wolverine and I was never paid to come up with these ideas. Does no one at Insomniac even care about the product that they're making? There is no excuse for butchering Wolverine like this. As a fan of other comic books I am kinda baffled by this. There are people being paid to go through X-Men comics that were unable to come up with literally anything fun to do with the character of Wolverine.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's sending them notes to make it "more like God of War". That's the impression I got from what little gameplay I saw.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony's sending them notes to make it "more like God of War". That's the impression I got from what little gameplay I saw.
It makes absolutely no sense to play it safe. What Sony desperately needs now is wild, fun ideas like enemies chopping off Logan's arm off and then running away with it. They need interesting games that attracts the consumer's interest and compels them enough to buy a PS5.

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God of War Ragnarok sold less copies than God of War 2018 which generated $600M of revenue. Using that number and the amount of sales as a point of comparison I have deduced that God of War Ragnarok has generated around $375M of revenue. This would be incredibly good for the game if you ignore the fact that its development costed more than of that and marketing costed Sony even more. I think God of War Ragnarok has barely managed to make its money back so far.

They could literally make more money by investing a tiny fraction of their budgets on creative studios with more original ideas. Watching Sony continue to pursue their "big budget movie-like videogames" strategy is like watching a gambling addict throwing away money after being on a decade long losing streak.
 
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They could literally make more money by investing a tiny fraction of their budgets on creative studios with more original ideas.
This is why I think Insomniac is right to be concerned about Microsoft buying ActivisionBlizzard. Microsoft is at a position to take advantage of all of the IP's they now own and make tons of games that will basically force the consumer come running to the Xbox Goy Pass. The Insomniac leak showed that Sony will continue to make the "premium" exclusive games (movie-like narrative slop) they have been.

I think we are going to see a big shift from the PlayStation to Xbox this year. This is coming from someone who hates both companies and everything that they stand for.
 
Remember the Motorstorm games? Those were fun racing games to play at the gaming kiosk at Target and Gamestop in 2007 when the PS3 was still new.
The kiosks for Motorstorm was a breathtaking experience. I've never seen mud effects or water physics like that at the time.

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Graphics and experience matched the box art. Play it with no HUD, quite immersive. Especially for a tech demo.
 
Imagine having enemies cut your arm off and then run off with it, thus forcing you to chase them around so you can reclaim it and reattach it to your body. Now that would make for a fun game.
NeverDead was like this and it sucked. It sounds interesting but quickly becomes tedious.
Perhaps you could do something like that very sparingly, but I don't trust Insomniac to.
 
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farting rainbows right now, dude
Try to ignore your bias toward the company for a moment. They own the biggest IP's in gaming history. IF their management is competent enough, then the Goy Pass could overtake the PS5.

In my post I never said that their management is competent. I stated that Xbox is at a position to outsell Snoy by a lot. Insomniac's own internal docket said this. I am not going to pretend to know whether or not Microsoft will take advantage of this. I actually hope they don't so Xbots can keep seething and coming up with funny conspiracy theories. But saying that there isn't even a 1% chance that Xbox could make a comeback is not a logical argument to say the least.
 
The real answer is that Sony should have followed the X-Men Origins playbook rather than the nu-God of War one and made an incredibly badass over the top action rip and tear game like that to fill the void classic God of War has left out of their lineup. Imagine getting a game like God of War 3 with next gen graphical fidelity and systems? Would be tight as fuck.
 
made an incredibly badass over the top action rip and tear game like that to fill the void classic God of War has left out of their lineup.
I would honestly be happy with a game similar to Middle-Earth that has a story, but also has good core mechanics such as the Nemesis system that are worth exploring. Literally all they had to do was design a fun combat system and hire a noteworthy comic book writer who has worked on the character before (not a fucking committee).

Instead we're getting more Spider-Man slop except this time he can't websling around the city. Can't throw his web at enemies. Can't do acrobatic moves. Basically the leaked material just shows that they've turned the fucking Wolverine into a downgraded version of Spider-Man. He may kinda kill people though I guess in T-rated lame kill animations.
 
Will Sony and Microsoft let developers make games exclusive for "premium" versions of their consoles? I'm talking about PS4 Pro, XOne X and Series X
 
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The amount of money some GT players spend to set up a racing rig, makes me wonder if they actually can rival mobile racing games (the Asphalt games are a big example), and Sim Racing (since iRacing charges for individual things such as tracks and cars), in terms of being the most Consoomerist racing game franchise out there. You don't hear these stories about people spending that much in Forza, and even though The Crew games have microtransactions, surely people don't whale out in those games as much either.
In defense of IRacing - the entire point is that you buy your series. That's how the service stays afloat, and how it provides what it does. It's the standard for simracing, I don't blame them.

Your $12/mo subscription comes with like 10 cars and all the tracks needed for the rookie/intro series. Then, you decide what series you wanna do, and buy the car(s) and tracks accordingly. That's the point. You don't need to splurge out on every car and track, because that's not the point.

Forza does sell DLC car packs and map expansions, which are worth it for the price. They also constitute a small, small fraction of the car list.

The Crew has "crew credits" but not only did TC2 make it so you could buy the season passes with in game bucks, TC2 and TCM actively give out crew credits for events/rewards. The only thing you'll need them for is vanities, if you want them. The only car in TCM locked behind a pay wall is the chevelle.

GT7 doesn't explicitly lock any cars behind a pay wall, but has created such an insane grind that it may have well for the more expensive cars. Cars that have no events, that is. That's before you get into the people who gloat, again, about buying the branded wheel, PSVR2, Sony TVs, etc etc. You'll even get the occasional "thanks to GT7 I bought a brand new toyota/subaru/honda/insert japshit here"
 
The kiosks for Motorstorm was a breathtaking experience. I've never seen mud effects or water physics like that at the time.

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Graphics and experience matched the box art. Play it with no HUD, quite immersive. Especially for a tech demo.
Tugging at my heart here. Motorstorm and MSPR are in my top 5 of all time. Cult classics. Rip Evo Studios
 
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