Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Ashkenazi Porn Actress]

I wouldn't be surprised a bit to find out its basically a situation like balmorra from star wars the old republic. That is to say republic soldiers 'going awol' to 'volunteer' to fight [...]

Pretty sure the video of the Bundeswehr doofus who says "I could take off my uniform, take leave, go to Ukraine and volunteer and this wouldn't be an act against Russia by Germany checkmate ziggers" was posted earlier in the thread. Even some of the facedoxed mercs have been lifers who left their armed forces under murky circumstances only to reappear in Ukropistan. And thats before we get into things like the CIA Memorial Wall suddenly having more stars after the RuAF started lobbing Kalibr and Khinzal missles at "high value targets".

 

[Gondolindrim]

This shit is how things start to spiral out of control. Czech missles, American cluster munitions ending up being used on a civilian area. Putin will be under pressure to respond, and if there's any truth to the story that Zelensky was responsible, then he's getting merked soon.

Putin fucked around and now people on his home soil are dead, while the Ukies cheer about it. Watch Ukraine hit the victim card again once the inevitable retalitation kicks off.

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Putin fucked around and now people on his home soil are dead, while the Ukies cheer about it. Watch Ukraine hit the victim card again once the inevitable retalitation kicks off.

I think a lot of the retaliation this year will depend on how the US elections go.

Option 1: Trump victory
Basically the most boring option. Trump was already an anti-interventionist and his base has moved further in this direction. Most likely a Trump win will equate to both him and Putin coming to a very hasty negotiation in order to end the war as fast as possible. Both sides ultimately want to focus on domestics and not really be involved in foreign drama. NAFO pretty much would have to go along with whatever Trump agrees to because NAFO is a joke without US military backing.

Option 2: Biden victory
Status quo option. Biden isn't really running the show and his handlers want the war to continue, and are fine with losing so there can not be any negotiation. Putin will launch retaliatory attacks, but only within the frame of what wont give NAFO an excuse to kick off WW3 and send millions of golem they want to get rid of anyway to die.

Option 3: US elections turn into a civil war
If this happens, NAFO becomes toothless overnight and you'll see a Russia that does not look all that dissimilar to an angered Roman empire.

 

[White_N]

Russian " Shaheds" destroyed the Shukhevych(UPA leader) museum near Lvov today and damaged the university where Bandera studied. The mayor of Lvov responded to this, and this is just something

On Stepan Bandera's birthday, Muscovites completely destroyed the museum of UPA general Roman Shukhevych in Bilohirsh.

https://t.me/andriysadovyi/1859

Last night, the enemy hit two national memory sites in Lviv:

- The University in Dubliany, where Stepan Bandera studied 100 years ago
- and the Roman Shukhevych Museum in Bilohirsh.

Symbolic and cynical. A war for our history.

https://t.me/andriysadovyi/1861

 

[Mr Komo]

The mayor of Lvov responded to this, and this is just something

"Collaborating with Nazis, as well as killing Jews, Poles and Russians is an immutable part of our culture and tradition. Destroying historical landmarks signifying those things is genocide. Killing a bunch of their kids a couple days ago is therefore retroactively justified. RuZZia is a terrorist state."

Unironically oblivious.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

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[Mr Komo]

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>Terror Alarm
>Based in Israel
>Calling for nuclear war

 

[Fatniggo1488]

>Terror Alarm
>Based in Israel
>Calling for nuclear war

All things considering, (((them))) wanting a nuclear apocalypse shouldn't be much of a stretch

 

[Corn Syrup Connoisseur]

Putin is dead again.

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>Terror Alarm
>Based in Israel
>Calling for nuclear war

Terror Alarm is a troll account. They also claim it is AI generated to create a layer of deniability.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Feliz año nuevo xoxui

 

[MrJokerRager]

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Now the krauts want to make the military service mandatory.

To force the youth to embrace BIG GAY since this is the same military that disbanded their elite units over allegations of appreciation for the most well known German leader in history.

reason(another great example is the gov profile barrel in the A2

I believe the fear was that the pencil barrel would bend. So they made it into a bull barrel.

Though Stoner's original idea, the AR-10, has been heavily modified by the government.

And then they had his family come out recently denouncing the civilian ownership of ARs.

We have not seen any of this from Colt's or Garand's or Browning's descendants doing the same.

While IIRC for Kalashnikov, he was proud of producing the rifle for the motherland.

"Collaborating with Nazis, as well as killing Jews, Poles and Russians is an immutable part of our culture and tradition. Destroying historical landmarks signifying those things is genocide. Killing a bunch of their kids a couple days ago is therefore retroactively justified. RuZZia is a terrorist state."

Unironically oblivious.

Putin fucked around and now people on his home soil are dead, while the Ukies cheer about it. Watch Ukraine hit the victim card again once the inevitable retalitation kicks off.

Lavrov said recently that Russia and Israel have the same goals and motivation.

Time for Lavrov to lobby Putin to give Ukraine the same kind of treatment that the IDF is doing to Gaza with the same intensity.

Give the Amalek treatment to the hohols otherwise Lavrov looks like a pussy if this doesn't happen.

Edit: What is good for the goose, is good for the gander.

Option 3: US elections turn into a civil war
If this happens, NAFO becomes toothless overnight and you'll see a Russia that does not look all that dissimilar to an angered Roman empire.

The plan by Uncle Sam was to keep Europeans weak and feminized.

And Biden and his retarded gang of kikes and libcucks has basically awakened one of the European nations to try to reach the glory days of when they were an empire, rather than be content with Ivy League created Globohomo.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Putin is dead again.

About time. Unbox the next batch of clones, the old ones were starting to smell and get puffy.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Go nigger up another thread if you want to debate "Mikhail v. Eugene"

 

[MrJokerRager]

Go nigger up another thread if you want to debate "Mikhail v. Eugene"

Its a shame since both liked each other.

 

[74164978231]

Most AK platforms can fire shit ammunition without major issues. Most ARs can't.

The early problems of the A1 wherent even about "shitty" ammo, it was simply using the wrong ammo. This is like bitching about how diesel engines are shit when you fill your tank with waste oil instead of diesel and get subpar performance.

I'm going to guess your definition of "many" is not a universal definition

Issued two different A4s and own a number of AR-15s in different configurations. Think I have an understanding of the platform and how reliable it is.

Yeah, you need to clean AKs. You don't ,however, have to spend two hours cleaning them after you take them to a qual range and fire like 3 mags

You really should just point to me on the doll where the AR-15 touched you. This is so insanely nonsensical theres nothing you can say about it other than its simply stupid.

Side note:
I find it very amusing that the fucking French now objectively have a more practical service rifle than the British or American army.


Edit/clarification:

If anyone is wondering what we're sperging about, top is an AR pattern rifle with a piston system, and bottom is a gas system. Top is similar to the AK pattern rifles which have always operated on a piston system.

It took trillions of US dollars and decades to finally understand that blowing carbon back into a receiver that has extremely tight tolerances might cause malfunctions and substantial wear and tear on a rifle's internal parts. This is spite of the fact that the previous generations of US service rifles, the M1, and M14 didn't have this retarded flaw.

Its the same rifle. It has nearly the same bolt, the same chamber, the same fire control group, same magazine, same charging handle, same receiver etc.

You clearly have no idea how firearms actually work. Firearms get fouled with carbon regardless if the design is a gas piston or direct impingement.

I believe the fear was that the pencil barrel would bend. So they made it into a bull barrel.

Kind of.

Cant find the video but essentially what happened was the people in charge of the M-16A2 program where doing testing on A1 rifles and found the barrels wherent passing qc inspections. Without doing any actual investigation or testing on the rifles, they just assumed the barrels where getting bent close to the muzzle due to be using as pry bars or general rough treatment.

So in their infinite wisdom they had the barrels beefed up on the A2 to fix this nonexistant problem. By the time they realized the actual problem was a manufacturing defect on the gas port and the barrels where never bent the A2 was already in production so of course it was easier to just leave that change as is instead of removing it.

Go nigger up another thread if you want to debate "Mikhail v. Eugene"

Hey someone is wrong on the internet and they need to know theyre wrong. I dont pick the time and place.

 

[Male Idiot]

They are just rifles. They need 3 things. Be cheap, be plentiful, be reliable.

The HK one was propably just too expensive for what it did.


This is a real nice one, the manly guy's gun. Sleek, with a dakka barrel and little holes in the barrel to make it look cool.

 

[ForTheHoard]

They are just rifles. They need 3 things. Be cheap, be plentiful, be reliable.

The HK one was propably just too expensive for what it did.

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This is a real nice one, the manly guy's gun. Sleek, with a dakka barrel and little holes in the barrel to make it look cool.

The Sig isn't exactly cheap either. If the Iraq war taught me anything, it was that the only way to win a military contract is through nepotism or corruption. The DoD doesn't want the best possible gear at the best possible price. They want to funnel billions of dollars into an inferior product because it makes one of their friends somewhere very rich.

If Sig is winning a lot of the contracts with debatably inferior platforms, rest assured that there's some backdoor deal with Sig. My guess is that they had to refuse to make a civilian model.

 

[74164978231]

If Sig is winning a lot of the contracts with debatably inferior platforms, rest assured that there's some backdoor deal with Sig. My guess is that they had to refuse to make a civilian model.

Nah not really.

You can buy civilian Spears, they just cost an arm and a leg and you will never find the actual ammo its intended to use because basically no one is making it. But you can find them chambered in 7.62x51.

And the entire reason the thing exists is because some retards at the DoD think you need to be able to defeat body armor at 300m+.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Nah not really.

You can buy civilian Spears, they just cost an arm and a leg and you will never find the actual ammo its intended to use because basically no one is making it. But you can find them chambered in 7.62x51.

And the entire reason the thing exists is because some retards at the DoD think you need to be able to defeat body armor at 300m+.

I don't know. When you get issued a bullet proof vest that the government knows doesn't work while telling you it does, you start changing the way you think about the DCMA and why the DoD buys what it buys. In our case, it was because a retired general invested a bunch of money into a body armor company that made inferior equipment at a premium price. The DoD even went in and fudged the results of the military trials to make the good gear look bad and the bad gear look good. They cared more about one of their friends getting a payday than hundreds of thousands of Marines having functional body armor.

 

[The Ugly One]

When you get issued a bullet proof vest that the government knows doesn't work while telling you it does

Historically, shrapnel killed more soldiers than bullets. Not to be the DoD's #1 defender, but that was the original motivation for body armor. I remember reading about an American (or Canadian?) sniper in Iraq killing 3 guys with a single bullet by waiting until they all passed behind a brick wall, then shooting the wall with a BMG. The explosion of brick & mortar on the other side of the wall took all three of them out.