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Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.
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Going back to the Skype logs and picking up with Main Chat 3 and 4. We start off with Chelsea and company plotting revenge and cyber stalking people on Christmas Day and go on a slosh through lolmilk that includes Alex Lifschitz's 3-step plan to destroy Gamergate and Chelsea briefly mentioning a "Kill Bill" list (with Eron Gjoni as her 'Bill').
The following was happening on Christmas Day 2014, as the timestamps from the logs should be around 16 hours ahead of where Chelsea was at the time (Seattle). Here we find most of the gang chimping and doing opposition research against Mike Cernovich and 8chan/Brennan on Christmas and planning on getting the media to signal boost their hit piece against 8chan.
On Christmas, we also find Chelsea stalking Eron Gjoni and talking about how she's glad Liftshit is a Jew so she doesn't have to put on pants for Christmas.
Chelsea's family used to refer to transmissions as "trannies," leading to confusion when Chelsea encountered troons later on.
Chelsea was bitter because /pol/ had done a lot of speculation about whether she was a Jew. She also really hates Liana K. and claimed to have "talked with some of her former editors" and Liana is supposedly a "pretty huge misogynist".
Nicholas "Sarah Butts" Nyberg spent years talking about how he was a pedophile and supported pedophilia, among other things. Chelsea claimed she wants nothing to do with pedophiles, despite having Nyberg in her inner circle. Chelsea had bitched about it before, but she again mentioned how she "can't stand" Tumblr because some of them saw her as an abuser for what she did in the zoepost.
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, but this braintrust had pooled their money together on Christmas or Christmas Eve in order to buy an ad for Dan "Foldable Pedophile" Olson's 8chan hitpiece on reddit for le ebin trollin XD of the Gamergate subreddit. They were all also continuing to chimp over Mike Cernovich.
Mercedes Carrera - a porn star who came out in support of Gamergate - was brought up and Chelsea thinks Mercedes is an "asshole". Chelsea also was sperging about something called AbleGamers and said she was arranging things behind the scenes to try to get a stream set up. It appears Mercedes/Gamergate had a donation drive going for AbleGamers and some anti-Gamergaters had chimped out and fucked it up.
Chelsea powerleveled while chimping about JonTron and revealed she had intentionally sabotaged a 'game jam' reality TV show they were on.
Chelsea also talked about wanting to sue TotalBiscuit but decided not to because he has cancer and she didn't "want to go after him financially."
Chelsea supposedly has a "white house contact" which she bitched about Gamergate/Cernovich/whatever to (He is named later on as Mark DeLoura). The Foldable Pedophile claims he found pedophile grooming books and Jake Alley aka SecretGamerGirl said he needed to talk to his therapist about the "snuff stuff" he's seen. Chelsea said her therapist doesn't know what to tell her when she comes sperging about Gamergate and supposedly found Chelsea's Wikipedia page which (despite being run by white knights like Ryulong with nothing negative allowed) allegedly caused the therapist to realize that everything Chelsea had been crying about was "really just that fucked up."
As if you weren't already aware, the anti-Gamergate rat king is full of the mentally ill. They also continued stalking Cernovich's past.
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there was a webcomic called Shredded Moose that made a comic about Blowy Zoe chomping on someone's dick. The creator of the comic had later tweeted at Brad Wardell and asked if Wardell was hiring, and was told to send in a resume if he was interested in working there. The two events were completely unrelated. On Christmas, the rat king was chimping about Wardell, and Lifshit said he wished they had "pocketed the Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory. (They had coordinated harassment of Wardell earlier in the month)
Chelsea went on a chimpout over Eron Gjoni supposedly planning a sequel to the zoepost, and was massively butthurt because people actually read the thing and believed Chelsea to be an abuser.
Chelsea was "so fucking mad" that the hudge at the last Van Valkenburg vs. Gjoni court session had told her to stop sperging out over the internet, which Chelsea says is her "workplace."
Here we have sociopath Awex Lifshit describing his 3-step plan to take down Gamergate, with Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopolous named as their primary targets along with 8chan.
Chelsea also chimped out about TotalBiscuit, again, because he said something negative about Twine once and Chelsea thought she might "take a swing" at him next time she saw him.
Chelsea was writhing something for BoingBoing which meant it "counts like a lot" according to Chelsea. Chelsea planned to include the Foldable Pedo's article and the Southern Poverty Law Center's 'Hatewatch.'
Chelsea clamed to have had C cup breasts since the third grade, which would be around 8-9 years old.
Accorching to Chelsea, Notch of Minecraft fame was at the time giving her $50 a month on Patreon and thought Depression Quest was an "important piece of art."
Chelsea bragged about the games she is supposed to be in and said she was "hyperventilating in starbucks" because the developer of Gone Home had used the name 'Quinn' as part of an Easter egg. This lead to Chelsea sperging out about Eron, again.
Chelsea also claimed to have dated a tranny. Chelsea also thinks everyone should Listen and Believe whatever a troon tells them. She also mentioned that she used to hate furries and was a "total shit" to them.
Chelsea also claimed to have either been on a police force or just had wanted to become an officer who "didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously."
Chelsea really fucking hates wizardchan.
Chelsea said she has a "Kill Bill" list and Eron is her 'Bill'.
You may recall that in the days before Christmas Chelsea was sperging out hard about Patreon. Chelsea was worried because she believed she might be kicked off and wouldn't "have income" next month. On December 27th, Chelsea got the response from Patreon and was told they weren't taking action against her despite all the reports of what a shitbag she is. The staking of Cernovich and Hotwheels was also continuing.
They wanted to get Hotwheels a "lifetime ban" from Patreon for being a "white nationalist." They also celebrated RogueStar being kicked off Patreon and chimped about Mundane Matt.
Chelsea bragged to her rat king that her 'agent' for the Five Guys: The Book could "eat" Milo's agent. Chelsea described the book as a "series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life" and that she would say "how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason" and try to "kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends."
Chelsea said she once dated an "otakukin" and that she used to be an internet tough guy. She also joked about Sonic the Hedgehog being her "husbando" because of course a lolcow would have autismal connections to Sonic.
Chelsea said she would get "horse porn" if holographic data storage tech went mainstream. Chelsea spent $120 for that chip that the Steam game code on it and she said she "jammed" it into herself. She also spent $100 on that magnet she had put in her finger.
Chelsea named the "white house contact" she mentioned before, Mark DeLoura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_DeLoura
This is about the end of the Chelsea content from the 4th Main Chat leak. We'll end it with this:
[28/12/2014, 7:52:07 AM] drinternetphd: internet should be a basic human right the way literacy should be
[26/12/2014, 1:12:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: juicebro, down with the CP since 09!
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/05/criminalizing-comic-book-porn.html
[26/12/2014, 1:12:44 PM] Remy: Oh yeah KiA and GG are still trying to bail out the SS Child Porn
[26/12/2014, 1:12:59 PM] Remy: Uh oh did Chris find another gem?
[26/12/2014, 1:13:08 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's not a slam dunk
[26/12/2014, 1:13:15 PM] drinternetphd: ewwww
[26/12/2014, 1:13:18 PM] drinternetphd: ew ew ew ew ew
[26/12/2014, 1:13:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: but he definitely wants to protect the guy
[26/12/2014, 1:13:22 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck dude
[26/12/2014, 1:13:25 PM] Tesseract: wow what a fucking surprise
[26/12/2014, 1:13:31 PM] Tesseract: how is one person so shitty
[26/12/2014, 1:13:47 PM] Remy: He certainly seemed to think it would have been a great final paper
[26/12/2014, 1:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: god this makes me so fucking mad cause 5 fucking seconds of research and you see that drawn CP is so fucking often used to help actual molestors indoctrinate their victims
[26/12/2014, 1:13:53 PM] Remy: For his Constitutional Law course
[26/12/2014, 1:14:03 PM] Tesseract: does he just use a fucking dartboard with ways to be a shitty person written on it
[26/12/2014, 1:14:11 PM] Chris Kluwe: jiocebro? do research?! SURELY YOU JEST, MADAME
[26/12/2014, 1:14:13 PM] Remy: If only we could find a Constitutional Law professor willing to share a what I assume was a very skeevy final
[26/12/2014, 1:14:17 PM] Tesseract: "oh today I will defend CP"
[26/12/2014, 1:14:18 PM] drinternetphd: good point
[26/12/2014, 1:14:38 PM] drinternetphd: I should really talk to popehat more but I don't wanna bother him with this shit
[26/12/2014, 1:14:51 PM] Remy: I thought Popehat was three people?
[26/12/2014, 1:14:53 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, he was all "LOL NOPE" a couple days ago
[26/12/2014, 1:14:57 PM] Remy: Christian symbolism confuses me
[26/12/2014, 1:15:01 PM] Tesseract: haha
[26/12/2014, 1:15:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, I talk to most of them like, on a casual shooting the shit basis
[26/12/2014, 1:15:18 PM] Remy: lol Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:15:19 PM] drinternetphd: ken really dug Depression Quest so
[26/12/2014, 1:15:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have any major media outlets picked up on the 8chan & CP stuff?
[26/12/2014, 1:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, Ken doesn't like my "sensationalism" :p
[26/12/2014, 1:15:56 PM] Remy: I haven't pitched it to the folks I know at PBS newshour yet
[26/12/2014, 1:16:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: which is fine, you're allowed to not like the way i write things
[26/12/2014, 1:16:15 PM] Remy: B/C that relationship is really tenuous and I prefer to prove my value rather than appear clingy
[26/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Dan Olson: No, but it's starting to get in their ears. It's had enough hang time that they could grab it once the post-Christmas normal sets in
[26/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it is kind of christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:37 PM] drinternetphd: no one wants to write about child porn on christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha. True.
[26/12/2014, 1:16:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Merry Christmas, keep Baby Jesus away from Gaters. (sorry)
[26/12/2014, 1:16:59 PM] Dan Olson: which is basically what Lindsay was saying, too
[26/12/2014, 1:17:12 PM] Remy: What Zoe said
[26/12/2014, 1:17:16 PM] Remy: I actually was going to say
[26/12/2014, 1:17:30 PM] Remy: I pitched it to one of my journo friends and she basically said "I'm really trying not to touch that during the holidays"
[26/12/2014, 1:17:46 PM] Dan Olson: if this had been Jan 3rd or something like that then at least Vox/Slate/Jezzebel level outlets would have grabbed it hard right away
[26/12/2014, 1:18:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm fairly certain the MSM has an idea, i have quite a few people from msnbc, guardian, gawker, and other sites that jump on my feed on a daily basis
[26/12/2014, 1:18:45 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i've posted dan's piece along with "fuck these sick fucks"
[26/12/2014, 1:19:28 PM] drinternetphd: I'll reach out to the bbc/guardian after xmas
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/05/criminalizing-comic-book-porn.html
[26/12/2014, 1:12:44 PM] Remy: Oh yeah KiA and GG are still trying to bail out the SS Child Porn
[26/12/2014, 1:12:59 PM] Remy: Uh oh did Chris find another gem?
[26/12/2014, 1:13:08 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's not a slam dunk
[26/12/2014, 1:13:15 PM] drinternetphd: ewwww
[26/12/2014, 1:13:18 PM] drinternetphd: ew ew ew ew ew
[26/12/2014, 1:13:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: but he definitely wants to protect the guy
[26/12/2014, 1:13:22 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck dude
[26/12/2014, 1:13:25 PM] Tesseract: wow what a fucking surprise
[26/12/2014, 1:13:31 PM] Tesseract: how is one person so shitty
[26/12/2014, 1:13:47 PM] Remy: He certainly seemed to think it would have been a great final paper
[26/12/2014, 1:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: god this makes me so fucking mad cause 5 fucking seconds of research and you see that drawn CP is so fucking often used to help actual molestors indoctrinate their victims
[26/12/2014, 1:13:53 PM] Remy: For his Constitutional Law course
[26/12/2014, 1:14:03 PM] Tesseract: does he just use a fucking dartboard with ways to be a shitty person written on it
[26/12/2014, 1:14:11 PM] Chris Kluwe: jiocebro? do research?! SURELY YOU JEST, MADAME
[26/12/2014, 1:14:13 PM] Remy: If only we could find a Constitutional Law professor willing to share a what I assume was a very skeevy final
[26/12/2014, 1:14:17 PM] Tesseract: "oh today I will defend CP"
[26/12/2014, 1:14:18 PM] drinternetphd: good point
[26/12/2014, 1:14:38 PM] drinternetphd: I should really talk to popehat more but I don't wanna bother him with this shit
[26/12/2014, 1:14:51 PM] Remy: I thought Popehat was three people?
[26/12/2014, 1:14:53 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, he was all "LOL NOPE" a couple days ago
[26/12/2014, 1:14:57 PM] Remy: Christian symbolism confuses me
[26/12/2014, 1:15:01 PM] Tesseract: haha
[26/12/2014, 1:15:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, I talk to most of them like, on a casual shooting the shit basis
[26/12/2014, 1:15:18 PM] Remy: lol Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:15:19 PM] drinternetphd: ken really dug Depression Quest so
[26/12/2014, 1:15:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have any major media outlets picked up on the 8chan & CP stuff?
[26/12/2014, 1:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, Ken doesn't like my "sensationalism" :p
[26/12/2014, 1:15:56 PM] Remy: I haven't pitched it to the folks I know at PBS newshour yet
[26/12/2014, 1:16:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: which is fine, you're allowed to not like the way i write things
[26/12/2014, 1:16:15 PM] Remy: B/C that relationship is really tenuous and I prefer to prove my value rather than appear clingy
[26/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Dan Olson: No, but it's starting to get in their ears. It's had enough hang time that they could grab it once the post-Christmas normal sets in
[26/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it is kind of christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:37 PM] drinternetphd: no one wants to write about child porn on christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha. True.
[26/12/2014, 1:16:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Merry Christmas, keep Baby Jesus away from Gaters. (sorry)
[26/12/2014, 1:16:59 PM] Dan Olson: which is basically what Lindsay was saying, too
[26/12/2014, 1:17:12 PM] Remy: What Zoe said
[26/12/2014, 1:17:16 PM] Remy: I actually was going to say
[26/12/2014, 1:17:30 PM] Remy: I pitched it to one of my journo friends and she basically said "I'm really trying not to touch that during the holidays"
[26/12/2014, 1:17:46 PM] Dan Olson: if this had been Jan 3rd or something like that then at least Vox/Slate/Jezzebel level outlets would have grabbed it hard right away
[26/12/2014, 1:18:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm fairly certain the MSM has an idea, i have quite a few people from msnbc, guardian, gawker, and other sites that jump on my feed on a daily basis
[26/12/2014, 1:18:45 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i've posted dan's piece along with "fuck these sick fucks"
[26/12/2014, 1:19:28 PM] drinternetphd: I'll reach out to the bbc/guardian after xmas
On Christmas, we also find Chelsea stalking Eron Gjoni and talking about how she's glad Liftshit is a Jew so she doesn't have to put on pants for Christmas.
[26/12/2014, 1:18:40 PM] drinternetphd: how the fuck did I not notice my ex was psychotic sooner [26/12/2014, 1:18:54 PM] Remy: The psychos are always the best at hiding it, Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:18:58 PM] Remy: Especially the sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:19:33 PM] Remy: Three things I am terrified of. Heights, the sound of a geiger counter, and sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: what I need is some fuckin sheer white cloth because I built a prototype of a scarf that has LEDs and a color sensor in it and the LEDs change to the color of whatever you put against it
[26/12/2014, 1:26:59 PM] drinternetphd: I am so glad I'm dating someone jewish and I won't get screamed at for not putting on pants during christmas and just ordering chinese food instead
[26/12/2014, 1:30:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seattle folks, did you hear that Chick-fil-a is opening in Bellevue?
[26/12/2014, 1:30:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: i also don't plan on broadcasting the debate to anyone outside ghazi
[26/12/2014, 1:30:18 PM] drinternetphd: fuck chick-fil-a
[26/12/2014, 1:30:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I've never had it. Probably gonna try it out
[26/12/2014, 1:30:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: cool
[26/12/2014, 1:30:41 PM] Remy: Aww nobody is open
[26/12/2014, 1:30:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and donate more than I spent to some charity that supports LGBT*
[26/12/2014, 1:18:58 PM] Remy: Especially the sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:19:33 PM] Remy: Three things I am terrified of. Heights, the sound of a geiger counter, and sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: what I need is some fuckin sheer white cloth because I built a prototype of a scarf that has LEDs and a color sensor in it and the LEDs change to the color of whatever you put against it
[26/12/2014, 1:26:59 PM] drinternetphd: I am so glad I'm dating someone jewish and I won't get screamed at for not putting on pants during christmas and just ordering chinese food instead
[26/12/2014, 1:30:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seattle folks, did you hear that Chick-fil-a is opening in Bellevue?
[26/12/2014, 1:30:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: i also don't plan on broadcasting the debate to anyone outside ghazi
[26/12/2014, 1:30:18 PM] drinternetphd: fuck chick-fil-a
[26/12/2014, 1:30:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I've never had it. Probably gonna try it out
[26/12/2014, 1:30:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: cool
[26/12/2014, 1:30:41 PM] Remy: Aww nobody is open
[26/12/2014, 1:30:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and donate more than I spent to some charity that supports LGBT*
Chelsea's family used to refer to transmissions as "trannies," leading to confusion when Chelsea encountered troons later on.
[26/12/2014, 1:32:17 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's crazy how much you don't realize growing up that you take for granted
[26/12/2014, 1:32:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG & scientology both think psychology isn't science
[26/12/2014, 1:32:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so there's that
[26/12/2014, 1:32:37 PM] Chris Kluwe: GG and Scientology are perfect soul mates
[26/12/2014, 1:32:38 PM] drinternetphd: tell me about it
[26/12/2014, 1:32:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: they should exchange thetans
[26/12/2014, 1:32:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ~
[26/12/2014, 1:32:50 PM] Dan Olson: the Ideology Must Be Pure
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] drinternetphd: when I was a kid growing up in a harley shop, the slur for trans people meant "transmission"
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 1:32:58 PM] Remy: Adam Baldwin would have to hang out with Tom Cruise
[26/12/2014, 1:33:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Next month: TOM CRUISE COMES OUT IN SUPPORT OF GAMERGATE
[26/12/2014, 1:33:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: honestly, i'm surprised there haven't been more recruiting drives going on in KiA from various ne'er'do'wells other than the MRA crowd
[26/12/2014, 1:33:17 PM] drinternetphd: so when I left the small town where no one really knew trans people existed and found out that people were not being called transmissions with that slur it was really confusing
[26/12/2014, 1:32:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG & scientology both think psychology isn't science
[26/12/2014, 1:32:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so there's that
[26/12/2014, 1:32:37 PM] Chris Kluwe: GG and Scientology are perfect soul mates
[26/12/2014, 1:32:38 PM] drinternetphd: tell me about it
[26/12/2014, 1:32:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: they should exchange thetans
[26/12/2014, 1:32:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ~
[26/12/2014, 1:32:50 PM] Dan Olson: the Ideology Must Be Pure
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] drinternetphd: when I was a kid growing up in a harley shop, the slur for trans people meant "transmission"
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 1:32:58 PM] Remy: Adam Baldwin would have to hang out with Tom Cruise
[26/12/2014, 1:33:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Next month: TOM CRUISE COMES OUT IN SUPPORT OF GAMERGATE
[26/12/2014, 1:33:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: honestly, i'm surprised there haven't been more recruiting drives going on in KiA from various ne'er'do'wells other than the MRA crowd
[26/12/2014, 1:33:17 PM] drinternetphd: so when I left the small town where no one really knew trans people existed and found out that people were not being called transmissions with that slur it was really confusing
Chelsea was bitter because /pol/ had done a lot of speculation about whether she was a Jew. She also really hates Liana K. and claimed to have "talked with some of her former editors" and Liana is supposedly a "pretty huge misogynist".
[26/12/2014, 1:33:58 PM] Dan Olson: Most of the organized reactionary groups did some small recruiting then realized that GG is full of morons that resist all organization.
[26/12/2014, 1:34:08 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[26/12/2014, 1:34:15 PM] drinternetphd: ok ground zero before gamergate had a name
[26/12/2014, 1:34:20 PM] drinternetphd: half the shit was organized on/pol/
[26/12/2014, 1:34:31 PM] drinternetphd: there were so many threads dedicated to obsessing over if I was jewish or not
[26/12/2014, 1:35:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: retroactively funny thing- back when I was talking to Liana for my anonymous harassment story thing, she asked me not to mention anything about the anti-semetic stuff GG says
[26/12/2014, 1:35:49 PM] drinternetphd: fuck liana
[26/12/2014, 1:37:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this was back when she was still doing a PRETTY good job of coming off as legitimately clueless/"neutral"
[26/12/2014, 1:37:23 PM] drinternetphd: she was on the anti-anita bandwagon before it was cool too
[26/12/2014, 1:37:31 PM] drinternetphd: I've talked with some of her former editors
26/12/2014, 1:37:44 PM] drinternetphd: she apparently has been a pretty huge misogynist for years and years
[26/12/2014, 1:34:08 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[26/12/2014, 1:34:15 PM] drinternetphd: ok ground zero before gamergate had a name
[26/12/2014, 1:34:20 PM] drinternetphd: half the shit was organized on/pol/
[26/12/2014, 1:34:31 PM] drinternetphd: there were so many threads dedicated to obsessing over if I was jewish or not
[26/12/2014, 1:35:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: retroactively funny thing- back when I was talking to Liana for my anonymous harassment story thing, she asked me not to mention anything about the anti-semetic stuff GG says
[26/12/2014, 1:35:49 PM] drinternetphd: fuck liana
[26/12/2014, 1:37:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this was back when she was still doing a PRETTY good job of coming off as legitimately clueless/"neutral"
[26/12/2014, 1:37:23 PM] drinternetphd: she was on the anti-anita bandwagon before it was cool too
[26/12/2014, 1:37:31 PM] drinternetphd: I've talked with some of her former editors
26/12/2014, 1:37:44 PM] drinternetphd: she apparently has been a pretty huge misogynist for years and years
Nicholas "Sarah Butts" Nyberg spent years talking about how he was a pedophile and supported pedophilia, among other things. Chelsea claimed she wants nothing to do with pedophiles, despite having Nyberg in her inner circle. Chelsea had bitched about it before, but she again mentioned how she "can't stand" Tumblr because some of them saw her as an abuser for what she did in the zoepost.
[26/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] drinternetphd: yo if there was a delicious food and pedos loved it pretty loudly I'd probably stop eating it
[26/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] drinternetphd: just in case
[26/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: along with "and burn it to the ground"
[26/12/2014, 1:38:41 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 1:38:49 PM] drinternetphd: pretty much any time my venn diagram circle gets near one of pedos I go screeching in the other direction
[26/12/2014, 1:43:07 PM] drinternetphd: I can't stand tumblr anymore cause of how many people have latched onto calling me an abuser
[26/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] drinternetphd: just in case
[26/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: along with "and burn it to the ground"
[26/12/2014, 1:38:41 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 1:38:49 PM] drinternetphd: pretty much any time my venn diagram circle gets near one of pedos I go screeching in the other direction
[26/12/2014, 1:43:07 PM] drinternetphd: I can't stand tumblr anymore cause of how many people have latched onto calling me an abuser
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, but this braintrust had pooled their money together on Christmas or Christmas Eve in order to buy an ad for Dan "Foldable Pedophile" Olson's 8chan hitpiece on reddit for le ebin trollin XD of the Gamergate subreddit. They were all also continuing to chimp over Mike Cernovich.
[26/12/2014, 2:13:00 PM] drinternetphd: omg we're laughing about the ad so hard
[26/12/2014, 2:13:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: hola
[26/12/2014, 2:13:02 PM] drinternetphd: alex just woke up
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] Chris Kluwe: this blog title is amazing
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/02/why-i-am-a-eugenicist.html
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] drinternetphd: yknow we were gonna watch mst3k but this pretty much seems like the same thing
[26/12/2014, 2:13:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: hola
[26/12/2014, 2:13:02 PM] drinternetphd: alex just woke up
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] Chris Kluwe: this blog title is amazing
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/02/why-i-am-a-eugenicist.html
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] drinternetphd: yknow we were gonna watch mst3k but this pretty much seems like the same thing
Mercedes Carrera - a porn star who came out in support of Gamergate - was brought up and Chelsea thinks Mercedes is an "asshole". Chelsea also was sperging about something called AbleGamers and said she was arranging things behind the scenes to try to get a stream set up. It appears Mercedes/Gamergate had a donation drive going for AbleGamers and some anti-Gamergaters had chimped out and fucked it up.
[26/12/2014, 3:14:20 PM] Remy: So I've heard that a porn star has thrown their name into supporting GG for publicity
[26/12/2014, 3:14:24 PM] Remy: I wish them the best of luck
[26/12/2014, 3:14:26 PM] Peter Coffin: so ick
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Remy: In all their future stalkers
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] drinternetphd: mercedes carerra
[26/12/2014, 3:14:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that was a while back
[26/12/2014, 3:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and she is an asshole
[26/12/2014, 3:14:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, she's been there for a while
[26/12/2014, 3:14:43 PM] Remy: Oh
[26/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's obvious she's doing it to get money from them
[26/12/2014, 3:14:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: and they're too stupid to notice
[26/12/2014, 3:14:53 PM] Remy: I don't consume as much porn as I do video games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "threw lot in with GG" makes "asshole" a given
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: shes also been taking pot shots at me for having done porn which is just like
[26/12/2014, 3:14:59 PM] drinternetphd: excuse me while I lol to the moon
[26/12/2014, 3:15:09 PM] Remy: srsly?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:15:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: the best was when they tried to do that ablegamers thing
[26/12/2014, 3:15:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also why do all these scumbags have so much spendable cash?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: and she was like "I think i can make it happen, I just can't tell anyone it's for GG"
[26/12/2014, 3:15:30 PM] drinternetphd: actually, chris
[26/12/2014, 3:15:34 PM] Remy: SGG: Parents
[26/12/2014, 3:15:40 PM] drinternetphd: idk if you'd be down for this but you could potentially really help out
[26/12/2014, 3:15:41 PM] Dina : Peter ew
[26/12/2014, 3:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: sure, just lemme know
[26/12/2014, 3:15:50 PM] Remy: OH
[26/12/2014, 3:15:57 PM] drinternetphd: so like I've been quietly talking with ablegamers behind the scenes to try and organize a stream to make up for the shit they lost out on
[26/12/2014, 3:16:02 PM] Remy: SHE'S THE PORN STAR WHO TRIED TO HELP DECEIVE ABLEGAMERS?
[26/12/2014, 3:16:03 PM] drinternetphd: not a porn stream though
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: good plan
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: What a terrible person
[26/12/2014, 3:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: like a charity let's play stream
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Remy: OMG Zoe that's an awesome idea
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, cus i don't think my wife would approve :p
[26/12/2014, 3:16:24 PM] drinternetphd: like one that features work done by devs with disability or games with really good accessibility features
[26/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah, i'm totally down for that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:26 PM] Peter Coffin: nor would mine
[26/12/2014, 3:16:32 PM] Peter Coffin: I love the sound of that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:33 PM] drinternetphd: awesome awesome awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: I'll keep you in the loop then
[26/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they got hit super hard and got really disturbing death threats and shit
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Peter Coffin: chris every time I write your name I fucking say christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i actually did a lot of stuff for kids with Duchenne muscular dystrophy while i was in the league
[26/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i lot of them could really only interact through WoW and stuff like that
[26/12/2014, 3:17:20 PM] drinternetphd: and morale with them is kind of at an all time low which is fucking unacceptable because they do good work and their accesibility guidelines were followed closely when I was doing the DQ steam port
[26/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: so i definitely know where they're coming from
[26/12/2014, 3:17:24 PM] drinternetphd: yeah!
[26/12/2014, 3:17:26 PM] drinternetphd: ok cool
[26/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Dina : <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they are really feeling the pain on that one
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] Dina : ^my contribution
[26/12/2014, 3:17:38 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:39 PM] Peter Coffin: chris to the rescue. not christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Peter Coffin: chris
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Remy: This room is so awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] drinternetphd: so I was letting it be quiet and sort of doing stuff in the background while giving some time to cool down so GG doesn't hit it so hard when I finally launch it
[26/12/2014, 3:18:06 PM] drinternetphd: I got the desert bus streamers on board for helping with infrastructure too
[26/12/2014, 3:18:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: like i said, just lemme know and i'll do whatever i can
[26/12/2014, 3:18:23 PM] drinternetphd: awesome, thank you
[26/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Dan Olson: Oh, sweet, LRR are good folk. Graham's a sweetie.
[26/12/2014, 3:18:41 PM] drinternetphd: also fwiw I don't want to mention anything having to do with gamergate with this stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:18:47 PM] drinternetphd: obviously
[26/12/2014, 3:18:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:18:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's really not about that
[26/12/2014, 3:19:00 PM] drinternetphd: if anything I haven't given enough back to them for what they've done
[26/12/2014, 3:19:04 PM] drinternetphd: and I need to see to that
[26/12/2014, 3:14:24 PM] Remy: I wish them the best of luck
[26/12/2014, 3:14:26 PM] Peter Coffin: so ick
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Remy: In all their future stalkers
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] drinternetphd: mercedes carerra
[26/12/2014, 3:14:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that was a while back
[26/12/2014, 3:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and she is an asshole
[26/12/2014, 3:14:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, she's been there for a while
[26/12/2014, 3:14:43 PM] Remy: Oh
[26/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's obvious she's doing it to get money from them
[26/12/2014, 3:14:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: and they're too stupid to notice
[26/12/2014, 3:14:53 PM] Remy: I don't consume as much porn as I do video games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "threw lot in with GG" makes "asshole" a given
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: shes also been taking pot shots at me for having done porn which is just like
[26/12/2014, 3:14:59 PM] drinternetphd: excuse me while I lol to the moon
[26/12/2014, 3:15:09 PM] Remy: srsly?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:15:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: the best was when they tried to do that ablegamers thing
[26/12/2014, 3:15:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also why do all these scumbags have so much spendable cash?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: and she was like "I think i can make it happen, I just can't tell anyone it's for GG"
[26/12/2014, 3:15:30 PM] drinternetphd: actually, chris
[26/12/2014, 3:15:34 PM] Remy: SGG: Parents
[26/12/2014, 3:15:40 PM] drinternetphd: idk if you'd be down for this but you could potentially really help out
[26/12/2014, 3:15:41 PM] Dina : Peter ew
[26/12/2014, 3:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: sure, just lemme know
[26/12/2014, 3:15:50 PM] Remy: OH
[26/12/2014, 3:15:57 PM] drinternetphd: so like I've been quietly talking with ablegamers behind the scenes to try and organize a stream to make up for the shit they lost out on
[26/12/2014, 3:16:02 PM] Remy: SHE'S THE PORN STAR WHO TRIED TO HELP DECEIVE ABLEGAMERS?
[26/12/2014, 3:16:03 PM] drinternetphd: not a porn stream though
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: good plan
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: What a terrible person
[26/12/2014, 3:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: like a charity let's play stream
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Remy: OMG Zoe that's an awesome idea
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, cus i don't think my wife would approve :p
[26/12/2014, 3:16:24 PM] drinternetphd: like one that features work done by devs with disability or games with really good accessibility features
[26/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah, i'm totally down for that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:26 PM] Peter Coffin: nor would mine
[26/12/2014, 3:16:32 PM] Peter Coffin: I love the sound of that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:33 PM] drinternetphd: awesome awesome awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: I'll keep you in the loop then
[26/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they got hit super hard and got really disturbing death threats and shit
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Peter Coffin: chris every time I write your name I fucking say christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i actually did a lot of stuff for kids with Duchenne muscular dystrophy while i was in the league
[26/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i lot of them could really only interact through WoW and stuff like that
[26/12/2014, 3:17:20 PM] drinternetphd: and morale with them is kind of at an all time low which is fucking unacceptable because they do good work and their accesibility guidelines were followed closely when I was doing the DQ steam port
[26/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: so i definitely know where they're coming from
[26/12/2014, 3:17:24 PM] drinternetphd: yeah!
[26/12/2014, 3:17:26 PM] drinternetphd: ok cool
[26/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Dina : <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they are really feeling the pain on that one
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] Dina : ^my contribution
[26/12/2014, 3:17:38 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:39 PM] Peter Coffin: chris to the rescue. not christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Peter Coffin: chris
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Remy: This room is so awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] drinternetphd: so I was letting it be quiet and sort of doing stuff in the background while giving some time to cool down so GG doesn't hit it so hard when I finally launch it
[26/12/2014, 3:18:06 PM] drinternetphd: I got the desert bus streamers on board for helping with infrastructure too
[26/12/2014, 3:18:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: like i said, just lemme know and i'll do whatever i can
[26/12/2014, 3:18:23 PM] drinternetphd: awesome, thank you
[26/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Dan Olson: Oh, sweet, LRR are good folk. Graham's a sweetie.
[26/12/2014, 3:18:41 PM] drinternetphd: also fwiw I don't want to mention anything having to do with gamergate with this stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:18:47 PM] drinternetphd: obviously
[26/12/2014, 3:18:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:18:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's really not about that
[26/12/2014, 3:19:00 PM] drinternetphd: if anything I haven't given enough back to them for what they've done
[26/12/2014, 3:19:04 PM] drinternetphd: and I need to see to that
Chelsea powerleveled while chimping about JonTron and revealed she had intentionally sabotaged a 'game jam' reality TV show they were on.
26/12/2014, 3:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: the most humiliating moment in that game jam reality show we walked out on was that the guy who made nidhogg was one of the judges for the embarassing challenges they made us do
[26/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] drinternetphd: so i got to meet one of my heros while being forced to fingerpaint with jon tron's idiot ass in the background asking the british member of my team to say words that sounded funny with his accent
[26/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: Coming from the production side, that whole exposé filled me with cringe.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:31 PM] Peter Coffin: okay I have no idea what this reality show is but that sounds ridiculous
[26/12/2014, 3:35:35 PM] drinternetphd: oh god peter
[26/12/2014, 3:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: lemme link you
[26/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Dina : Jontron........
[26/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] drinternetphd: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/214364/Inside_the_disintegration_of_a_game_jam_reality_show.php
[26/12/2014, 3:36:45 PM] drinternetphd: I also wrote about it here http://gamasutra.com/blogs/ZoeQuinn...alking_Off_a_Reality_Show_About_Game_Jams.php
[26/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Peter Coffin: fuck maker studios
[26/12/2014, 3:37:13 PM] drinternetphd: also I contractually could not make fun of mountain dew for several months
[26/12/2014, 3:37:15 PM] Peter Coffin: seriously, I fucking hate them
[26/12/2014, 3:37:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I think everything about maker is disingenuous
[26/12/2014, 3:37:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I have watched it from the day it existed
[26/12/2014, 3:37:45 PM] Dina : I contractually can' talk about Gamergate I think
[26/12/2014, 3:37:48 PM] Dina : it's in Japanese
[26/12/2014, 3:37:52 PM] Dan Olson: How's Game Loading turning out? Anyone seen a current cut?
[26/12/2014, 3:37:57 PM] Dina : not gonna bother reviewing my contract
[26/12/2014, 3:38:05 PM] drinternetphd: when I finally could talk shit about mountain dew again this is what I did: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/488443912424398849
[26/12/2014, 3:38:11 PM] Peter Coffin: what about… mountain dew code red?
[26/12/2014, 3:38:33 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahah mountain poo
[26/12/2014, 3:38:39 PM] drinternetphd: I built it up with like 5 tweets too
[26/12/2014, 3:38:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, every time i had a sponsorship offer in the league, i made sure to tell them "If your product sucks, i'm gonna make fun of it"
[26/12/2014, 3:38:53 PM] drinternetphd: dude that was totally my plan going in
[26/12/2014, 3:38:55 PM] drinternetphd: so
[26/12/2014, 3:39:07 PM] drinternetphd: I did it cause I was the only woman they asked and because I'm a competitive shithead I wanted the only girl to win
[26/12/2014, 3:39:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:27 PM] Peter Coffin: stern but fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:31 PM] drinternetphd: and they clearly had no idea what they were doing or what jam games were so I was like "ok how can I game this system"
[26/12/2014, 3:39:36 PM] drinternetphd: "comedy. everyone gets comedy."
[26/12/2014, 3:39:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: except gators
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] drinternetphd: so I brought on davey wreden from the stanley parable and tom from surgeon simulator for my 2 people I could choose for my team
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] Peter Coffin: but then it turns out not everyone gets comedy
[26/12/2014, 3:39:55 PM] Chris Kluwe: ba dum tish
[26/12/2014, 3:40:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: eeeeesh
[26/12/2014, 3:40:10 PM] drinternetphd: with the arrangement that if it was a shitshow we openly mock it and troll the entire thing
[26/12/2014, 3:40:11 PM] Peter Coffin: haha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: people who don't get comedy are the worst
[26/12/2014, 3:40:23 PM] drinternetphd: we kept sneaking cans into shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:27 PM] drinternetphd: and deadeyeing the cameras
[26/12/2014, 3:40:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:40:30 PM] Peter Coffin: look back through my twitter image feed for that kind of fun
[26/12/2014, 3:40:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I kept switching glasses between shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: CONTINUITY
[26/12/2014, 3:40:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: NOOOOOOOOO
[26/12/2014, 3:40:47 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:48 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:51 PM] Peter Coffin: that is amazing zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] drinternetphd: and we were slowly holding mt dew cans and bringing them up closer to our faces constantly
[26/12/2014, 3:40:59 PM] Peter Coffin: oh my god I would laugh so hard
[26/12/2014, 3:41:01 PM] drinternetphd: till they screamed at us to stop
[26/12/2014, 3:41:04 PM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
[26/12/2014, 3:41:14 PM] Peter Coffin: that is comedy for comedy people though zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:41:16 PM] drinternetphd: davey jumped in with both feet and was constantly chugging till he got sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:21 PM] drinternetphd: like actually sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 3:41:31 PM] Chris Kluwe: this sounds like Tom goes to the Mayor or some shit
[26/12/2014, 3:41:32 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: I snuck into everyone's trailers and hid cans everywhere
[26/12/2014, 3:41:40 PM] Peter Coffin: I was just going to say this is tim and eric
[26/12/2014, 3:41:42 PM] drinternetphd: like in the toilets and under their pillows
[26/12/2014, 3:41:52 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that chris
[26/12/2014, 3:41:53 PM] drinternetphd: (this was before everyone else arrived cause I got there first)
[26/12/2014, 3:42:03 PM] Chris Kluwe: this could have been amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah but it went too far into "total shit" territory
[26/12/2014, 3:42:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, that just sounds amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: ahhh
[26/12/2014, 3:42:19 PM] drinternetphd: we weren't even scheduled to touch our computers till day 5
[26/12/2014, 3:42:20 PM] Remy: hold on I've been AFK lemme read and catch up if everyone is laughing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:24 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s maker doing a reality show
[26/12/2014, 3:42:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:42:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: a game jam
[26/12/2014, 3:42:32 PM] drinternetphd: also jontron was impossible to work with
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Peter Coffin: YOU CAN NOT HAVE A GOOD REALITY SHOW FROM MAKER
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no computers till day 5?
[26/12/2014, 3:42:42 PM] drinternetphd: he screamed at me on camera for like 5 minutes cause I asked if he needed help
[26/12/2014, 3:42:55 PM] Dina : wow
[26/12/2014, 3:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: and a lot of other shit I don't want to get into
[26/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Dina : what a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:43:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: sounds like a douche
[26/12/2014, 3:43:09 PM] drinternetphd: but he made it impossible for me to do anything cause he'd just shout over me
[26/12/2014, 3:43:10 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah he seems like a doucher
[26/12/2014, 3:43:18 PM] Dina : I had to politely email him for work and I cringed the whole way
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] Dina : well, his reps at Normal Boots
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] drinternetphd: and davey, tom, and I came up with our game seperately so when we were explaining shit to him he'd like
[26/12/2014, 3:43:32 PM] drinternetphd: hate everything I said
[26/12/2014, 3:43:36 PM] drinternetphd: but when one of them rephrased it he'd love it
[26/12/2014, 3:43:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: guhhhhhhhh
[26/12/2014, 3:43:47 PM] Peter Coffin: so he’s stupid too?
[26/12/2014, 3:43:49 PM] Peter Coffin: nice
[26/12/2014, 3:43:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "Here, let me put that into Manglish for you"
[26/12/2014, 3:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: and like be sucking their dicks over their games like a total brownoser
[26/12/2014, 3:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: during lunch I got an email from a fan that made me a little emotional
[26/12/2014, 3:44:14 PM] drinternetphd: it was this super sweet thing where they're like "your game saved my life" and stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:44:21 PM] Remy: AWWW ZOE YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MT DEW
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] drinternetphd: and I was talking with davey about it cause that just fucking gets me right in the heart
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] Remy: IT'S GAAAAAAAAMERR FUUUUUUEEEEELL
[26/12/2014, 3:44:39 PM] drinternetphd: and jontron just butts in and is like OH YEAH PEOPLE TELL ME THAT ALL THE TIME BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT
[26/12/2014, 3:44:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] drinternetphd: and we were all like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:48 PM] Chris Kluwe: why would you even say that
[26/12/2014, 3:44:53 PM] Tesseract: GAMER FOOD http://www.gamerfood.com/
[26/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Peter Coffin: your post on it is super interesting zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:45:17 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who worked at maker who was writing about all this as their embedded journalist was like "oh yeah he does that, we call it "jontronning out"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: "HEY I SEE YOU DID SOMETHING GOOD WELL LET ME JUST SHIT ALL OVER THAT GRNKK HNNGHH"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:24 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:45:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no one calls him on his shit?
[26/12/2014, 3:45:37 PM] Remy: So this Jon Tron guy sounds exactly as shitty as I dismissed him as upon first glance
[26/12/2014, 3:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he's just a worthless garbage infant and him tweeting out gangbang comics of me was hardly surprising
[26/12/2014, 3:45:53 PM] drinternetphd: chris: pretty much. big name let's players are allowed to do whatever they want
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
[26/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] drinternetphd: so i got to meet one of my heros while being forced to fingerpaint with jon tron's idiot ass in the background asking the british member of my team to say words that sounded funny with his accent
[26/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: Coming from the production side, that whole exposé filled me with cringe.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:31 PM] Peter Coffin: okay I have no idea what this reality show is but that sounds ridiculous
[26/12/2014, 3:35:35 PM] drinternetphd: oh god peter
[26/12/2014, 3:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: lemme link you
[26/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Dina : Jontron........
[26/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] drinternetphd: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/214364/Inside_the_disintegration_of_a_game_jam_reality_show.php
[26/12/2014, 3:36:45 PM] drinternetphd: I also wrote about it here http://gamasutra.com/blogs/ZoeQuinn...alking_Off_a_Reality_Show_About_Game_Jams.php
[26/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Peter Coffin: fuck maker studios
[26/12/2014, 3:37:13 PM] drinternetphd: also I contractually could not make fun of mountain dew for several months
[26/12/2014, 3:37:15 PM] Peter Coffin: seriously, I fucking hate them
[26/12/2014, 3:37:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I think everything about maker is disingenuous
[26/12/2014, 3:37:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I have watched it from the day it existed
[26/12/2014, 3:37:45 PM] Dina : I contractually can' talk about Gamergate I think
[26/12/2014, 3:37:48 PM] Dina : it's in Japanese
[26/12/2014, 3:37:52 PM] Dan Olson: How's Game Loading turning out? Anyone seen a current cut?
[26/12/2014, 3:37:57 PM] Dina : not gonna bother reviewing my contract
[26/12/2014, 3:38:05 PM] drinternetphd: when I finally could talk shit about mountain dew again this is what I did: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/488443912424398849
[26/12/2014, 3:38:11 PM] Peter Coffin: what about… mountain dew code red?
[26/12/2014, 3:38:33 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahah mountain poo
[26/12/2014, 3:38:39 PM] drinternetphd: I built it up with like 5 tweets too
[26/12/2014, 3:38:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, every time i had a sponsorship offer in the league, i made sure to tell them "If your product sucks, i'm gonna make fun of it"
[26/12/2014, 3:38:53 PM] drinternetphd: dude that was totally my plan going in
[26/12/2014, 3:38:55 PM] drinternetphd: so
[26/12/2014, 3:39:07 PM] drinternetphd: I did it cause I was the only woman they asked and because I'm a competitive shithead I wanted the only girl to win
[26/12/2014, 3:39:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:27 PM] Peter Coffin: stern but fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:31 PM] drinternetphd: and they clearly had no idea what they were doing or what jam games were so I was like "ok how can I game this system"
[26/12/2014, 3:39:36 PM] drinternetphd: "comedy. everyone gets comedy."
[26/12/2014, 3:39:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: except gators
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] drinternetphd: so I brought on davey wreden from the stanley parable and tom from surgeon simulator for my 2 people I could choose for my team
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] Peter Coffin: but then it turns out not everyone gets comedy
[26/12/2014, 3:39:55 PM] Chris Kluwe: ba dum tish
[26/12/2014, 3:40:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: eeeeesh
[26/12/2014, 3:40:10 PM] drinternetphd: with the arrangement that if it was a shitshow we openly mock it and troll the entire thing
[26/12/2014, 3:40:11 PM] Peter Coffin: haha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: people who don't get comedy are the worst
[26/12/2014, 3:40:23 PM] drinternetphd: we kept sneaking cans into shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:27 PM] drinternetphd: and deadeyeing the cameras
[26/12/2014, 3:40:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:40:30 PM] Peter Coffin: look back through my twitter image feed for that kind of fun
[26/12/2014, 3:40:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I kept switching glasses between shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: CONTINUITY
[26/12/2014, 3:40:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: NOOOOOOOOO
[26/12/2014, 3:40:47 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:48 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:51 PM] Peter Coffin: that is amazing zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] drinternetphd: and we were slowly holding mt dew cans and bringing them up closer to our faces constantly
[26/12/2014, 3:40:59 PM] Peter Coffin: oh my god I would laugh so hard
[26/12/2014, 3:41:01 PM] drinternetphd: till they screamed at us to stop
[26/12/2014, 3:41:04 PM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
[26/12/2014, 3:41:14 PM] Peter Coffin: that is comedy for comedy people though zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:41:16 PM] drinternetphd: davey jumped in with both feet and was constantly chugging till he got sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:21 PM] drinternetphd: like actually sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 3:41:31 PM] Chris Kluwe: this sounds like Tom goes to the Mayor or some shit
[26/12/2014, 3:41:32 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: I snuck into everyone's trailers and hid cans everywhere
[26/12/2014, 3:41:40 PM] Peter Coffin: I was just going to say this is tim and eric
[26/12/2014, 3:41:42 PM] drinternetphd: like in the toilets and under their pillows
[26/12/2014, 3:41:52 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that chris
[26/12/2014, 3:41:53 PM] drinternetphd: (this was before everyone else arrived cause I got there first)
[26/12/2014, 3:42:03 PM] Chris Kluwe: this could have been amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah but it went too far into "total shit" territory
[26/12/2014, 3:42:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, that just sounds amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: ahhh
[26/12/2014, 3:42:19 PM] drinternetphd: we weren't even scheduled to touch our computers till day 5
[26/12/2014, 3:42:20 PM] Remy: hold on I've been AFK lemme read and catch up if everyone is laughing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:24 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s maker doing a reality show
[26/12/2014, 3:42:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:42:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: a game jam
[26/12/2014, 3:42:32 PM] drinternetphd: also jontron was impossible to work with
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Peter Coffin: YOU CAN NOT HAVE A GOOD REALITY SHOW FROM MAKER
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no computers till day 5?
[26/12/2014, 3:42:42 PM] drinternetphd: he screamed at me on camera for like 5 minutes cause I asked if he needed help
[26/12/2014, 3:42:55 PM] Dina : wow
[26/12/2014, 3:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: and a lot of other shit I don't want to get into
[26/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Dina : what a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:43:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: sounds like a douche
[26/12/2014, 3:43:09 PM] drinternetphd: but he made it impossible for me to do anything cause he'd just shout over me
[26/12/2014, 3:43:10 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah he seems like a doucher
[26/12/2014, 3:43:18 PM] Dina : I had to politely email him for work and I cringed the whole way
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] Dina : well, his reps at Normal Boots
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] drinternetphd: and davey, tom, and I came up with our game seperately so when we were explaining shit to him he'd like
[26/12/2014, 3:43:32 PM] drinternetphd: hate everything I said
[26/12/2014, 3:43:36 PM] drinternetphd: but when one of them rephrased it he'd love it
[26/12/2014, 3:43:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: guhhhhhhhh
[26/12/2014, 3:43:47 PM] Peter Coffin: so he’s stupid too?
[26/12/2014, 3:43:49 PM] Peter Coffin: nice
[26/12/2014, 3:43:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "Here, let me put that into Manglish for you"
[26/12/2014, 3:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: and like be sucking their dicks over their games like a total brownoser
[26/12/2014, 3:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: during lunch I got an email from a fan that made me a little emotional
[26/12/2014, 3:44:14 PM] drinternetphd: it was this super sweet thing where they're like "your game saved my life" and stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:44:21 PM] Remy: AWWW ZOE YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MT DEW
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] drinternetphd: and I was talking with davey about it cause that just fucking gets me right in the heart
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] Remy: IT'S GAAAAAAAAMERR FUUUUUUEEEEELL
[26/12/2014, 3:44:39 PM] drinternetphd: and jontron just butts in and is like OH YEAH PEOPLE TELL ME THAT ALL THE TIME BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT
[26/12/2014, 3:44:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] drinternetphd: and we were all like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:48 PM] Chris Kluwe: why would you even say that
[26/12/2014, 3:44:53 PM] Tesseract: GAMER FOOD http://www.gamerfood.com/
[26/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Peter Coffin: your post on it is super interesting zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:45:17 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who worked at maker who was writing about all this as their embedded journalist was like "oh yeah he does that, we call it "jontronning out"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: "HEY I SEE YOU DID SOMETHING GOOD WELL LET ME JUST SHIT ALL OVER THAT GRNKK HNNGHH"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:24 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:45:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no one calls him on his shit?
[26/12/2014, 3:45:37 PM] Remy: So this Jon Tron guy sounds exactly as shitty as I dismissed him as upon first glance
[26/12/2014, 3:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he's just a worthless garbage infant and him tweeting out gangbang comics of me was hardly surprising
[26/12/2014, 3:45:53 PM] drinternetphd: chris: pretty much. big name let's players are allowed to do whatever they want
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
Chelsea also talked about wanting to sue TotalBiscuit but decided not to because he has cancer and she didn't "want to go after him financially."
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
[26/12/2014, 3:46:18 PM] Remy: Honestly I'm surprised you can't sue TB
[26/12/2014, 3:46:21 PM] Remy: He's British, right?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: you would be shocked at how many indies have told me during this whole thing they wish they could stand up about it but are afraid to cause they have power.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:28 PM] Remy: He'd have to prove that he HASN'T damaged you
[26/12/2014, 3:46:33 PM] Peter Coffin: TB lives in the US
[26/12/2014, 3:46:37 PM] Remy: Oh.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Dina : um wait what
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Remy: Well fuck me
[26/12/2014, 3:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not suing a dude with cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:44 PM] Dina : Zoe no
[26/12/2014, 3:46:48 PM] Remy: He has cancer?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] Dina : they have no power
[26/12/2014, 3:46:50 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
[26/12/2014, 3:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: really
[26/12/2014, 3:46:55 PM] Peter Coffin: he has fucking cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:47:02 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah no one could win that
[26/12/2014, 3:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: dina they have power because a lot of people think they do and are too afraid to do anything
[26/12/2014, 3:47:07 PM] Dina : wait so what? people with cancer can't be assholes?!
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] drinternetphd: no they can
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] Remy: I hate it when people with cancer are still shitty. The movies never show you that part
[26/12/2014, 3:47:13 PM] Tesseract: does he still have cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] drinternetphd: but they also have medical bills like crazy
[26/12/2014, 3:47:17 PM] Dina : this is the same bullshit as hey let old people be racist
[26/12/2014, 3:47:19 PM] Dina : fuck no
[26/12/2014, 3:47:21 PM] drinternetphd: no no no like
[26/12/2014, 3:47:26 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't want to go after him financially
[26/12/2014, 3:47:36 PM] Quinnae: That's very good of you, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I do agree, that is very admirable
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Dina : You're a better person than me Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Remy: Yeah I'm not gonna talk you outta that one Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:47:49 PM] drinternetphd: like, his family doesn't deserve that and the US medical care system is fucking broken
[26/12/2014, 3:47:58 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s also in public opinion, that’s not a winnable case
[26/12/2014, 3:48:08 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fck yes it is
[26/12/2014, 3:48:09 PM] Remy: But still what's his problem. Other than the cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:24 PM] drinternetphd: right which is why the way to push back is culturally
[26/12/2014, 3:48:26 PM] drinternetphd: not financially.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:30 PM] Remy: Must be affecting his judgement
[26/12/2014, 3:48:35 PM] Peter Coffin: completely agree
[26/12/2014, 3:48:36 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not saying he gets carte blanche at all.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:37 PM] Dina : he's a white male with entitlement issues who doesn't see race but sees people (tm)
[26/12/2014, 3:48:45 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] drinternetphd: but he should absolutely still be called out and have to defend his horseshit
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Peter Coffin: take me to church again
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i have no problem calling an asshole an asshole, even if he has cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:49:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, precisely.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:06 PM] Dina : same
[26/12/2014, 3:49:09 PM] Peter Coffin: samesies
[26/12/2014, 3:49:14 PM] drinternetphd: ugh I actually tried to talk to him privately about all this
[26/12/2014, 3:49:15 PM] Remy: I've already done that? So sure I'm already in this boat.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:19 PM] Dina : this is like the Hotwheels shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:20 PM] drinternetphd: he had a mutual friend reach out
[26/12/2014, 3:49:25 PM] Dina : "but he's disabled!!"
[26/12/2014, 3:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: like one I super respect and trust
[26/12/2014, 3:49:31 PM] Dina : but he's also an asshole.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:36 PM] Remy: Yeah I have no problem feeling like Hotwheels is a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he sent me an email and it was just more BS accusations and thinly veiled threats
[26/12/2014, 3:49:45 PM] Remy: Or whatever his name is
[26/12/2014, 3:50:05 PM] Dina : ugh Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: so I responded being like "Jon, thank you for reaching out, can we talk about this like two people in private trying to get on the same page"
[26/12/2014, 3:50:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Freed Brennan
[26/12/2014, 3:50:17 PM] drinternetphd: and like, trying to set the tone as conversational and sincere
[26/12/2014, 3:50:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Fred even
[26/12/2014, 3:50:29 PM] drinternetphd: and he sent back more fucking accusations including that idiotic "personal paypal" argument
[26/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] drinternetphd: so I just stopped responding.
[26/12/2014, 3:50:35 PM] Dina : NO POOPIHEAD GIRL U HAS COOTIES
[26/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I am very much in favor of using the real names of those who have them out there
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
[26/12/2014, 3:46:18 PM] Remy: Honestly I'm surprised you can't sue TB
[26/12/2014, 3:46:21 PM] Remy: He's British, right?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: you would be shocked at how many indies have told me during this whole thing they wish they could stand up about it but are afraid to cause they have power.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:28 PM] Remy: He'd have to prove that he HASN'T damaged you
[26/12/2014, 3:46:33 PM] Peter Coffin: TB lives in the US
[26/12/2014, 3:46:37 PM] Remy: Oh.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Dina : um wait what
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Remy: Well fuck me
[26/12/2014, 3:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not suing a dude with cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:44 PM] Dina : Zoe no
[26/12/2014, 3:46:48 PM] Remy: He has cancer?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] Dina : they have no power
[26/12/2014, 3:46:50 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
[26/12/2014, 3:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: really
[26/12/2014, 3:46:55 PM] Peter Coffin: he has fucking cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:47:02 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah no one could win that
[26/12/2014, 3:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: dina they have power because a lot of people think they do and are too afraid to do anything
[26/12/2014, 3:47:07 PM] Dina : wait so what? people with cancer can't be assholes?!
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] drinternetphd: no they can
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] Remy: I hate it when people with cancer are still shitty. The movies never show you that part
[26/12/2014, 3:47:13 PM] Tesseract: does he still have cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] drinternetphd: but they also have medical bills like crazy
[26/12/2014, 3:47:17 PM] Dina : this is the same bullshit as hey let old people be racist
[26/12/2014, 3:47:19 PM] Dina : fuck no
[26/12/2014, 3:47:21 PM] drinternetphd: no no no like
[26/12/2014, 3:47:26 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't want to go after him financially
[26/12/2014, 3:47:36 PM] Quinnae: That's very good of you, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I do agree, that is very admirable
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Dina : You're a better person than me Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Remy: Yeah I'm not gonna talk you outta that one Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:47:49 PM] drinternetphd: like, his family doesn't deserve that and the US medical care system is fucking broken
[26/12/2014, 3:47:58 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s also in public opinion, that’s not a winnable case
[26/12/2014, 3:48:08 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fck yes it is
[26/12/2014, 3:48:09 PM] Remy: But still what's his problem. Other than the cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:24 PM] drinternetphd: right which is why the way to push back is culturally
[26/12/2014, 3:48:26 PM] drinternetphd: not financially.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:30 PM] Remy: Must be affecting his judgement
[26/12/2014, 3:48:35 PM] Peter Coffin: completely agree
[26/12/2014, 3:48:36 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not saying he gets carte blanche at all.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:37 PM] Dina : he's a white male with entitlement issues who doesn't see race but sees people (tm)
[26/12/2014, 3:48:45 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] drinternetphd: but he should absolutely still be called out and have to defend his horseshit
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Peter Coffin: take me to church again
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i have no problem calling an asshole an asshole, even if he has cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:49:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, precisely.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:06 PM] Dina : same
[26/12/2014, 3:49:09 PM] Peter Coffin: samesies
[26/12/2014, 3:49:14 PM] drinternetphd: ugh I actually tried to talk to him privately about all this
[26/12/2014, 3:49:15 PM] Remy: I've already done that? So sure I'm already in this boat.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:19 PM] Dina : this is like the Hotwheels shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:20 PM] drinternetphd: he had a mutual friend reach out
[26/12/2014, 3:49:25 PM] Dina : "but he's disabled!!"
[26/12/2014, 3:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: like one I super respect and trust
[26/12/2014, 3:49:31 PM] Dina : but he's also an asshole.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:36 PM] Remy: Yeah I have no problem feeling like Hotwheels is a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he sent me an email and it was just more BS accusations and thinly veiled threats
[26/12/2014, 3:49:45 PM] Remy: Or whatever his name is
[26/12/2014, 3:50:05 PM] Dina : ugh Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: so I responded being like "Jon, thank you for reaching out, can we talk about this like two people in private trying to get on the same page"
[26/12/2014, 3:50:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Freed Brennan
[26/12/2014, 3:50:17 PM] drinternetphd: and like, trying to set the tone as conversational and sincere
[26/12/2014, 3:50:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Fred even
[26/12/2014, 3:50:29 PM] drinternetphd: and he sent back more fucking accusations including that idiotic "personal paypal" argument
[26/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] drinternetphd: so I just stopped responding.
[26/12/2014, 3:50:35 PM] Dina : NO POOPIHEAD GIRL U HAS COOTIES
[26/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I am very much in favor of using the real names of those who have them out there
Chelsea supposedly has a "white house contact" which she bitched about Gamergate/Cernovich/whatever to (He is named later on as Mark DeLoura). The Foldable Pedophile claims he found pedophile grooming books and Jake Alley aka SecretGamerGirl said he needed to talk to his therapist about the "snuff stuff" he's seen. Chelsea said her therapist doesn't know what to tell her when she comes sperging about Gamergate and supposedly found Chelsea's Wikipedia page which (despite being run by white knights like Ryulong with nothing negative allowed) allegedly caused the therapist to realize that everything Chelsea had been crying about was "really just that fucked up."
[26/12/2014, 3:55:40 PM] Dan Olson: When I was researching I found a bunch of stuff that I just couldn't put in the article as examples. I tried to make it remotely palatable and it was impossible.
[26/12/2014, 3:55:57 PM] Dan Olson: It wasn't, like, hardcore CP, but in a way it was almost worse
[26/12/2014, 3:56:06 PM] drinternetphd: dan I feel you. I had a similar experience when I was pulling shit together for patreon and my white house contact
[26/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Dan Olson: someone had written and illustrated this whole series of books written and styled like kids books, Dick and Jane style
[26/12/2014, 3:56:44 PM] Dan Olson: but the whole thing was grooming and pedo normalization
[26/12/2014, 3:56:47 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:57:01 PM] Peter Coffin: I believe it but I don’t want to
[26/12/2014, 3:57:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's part of a fucking horrible part of the human psyche, and sometimes all we can do is hope to be our best so that no one else goes down that hole
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've thankfully managed to generally avoid the child porn for the most part, but one of these days I really do need to break down in front of a therapist about the snuff stuff.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. that's like finding someone's murder tools.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:27 PM] Remy: oof
[26/12/2014, 3:57:31 PM] Remy: That's rough, SGG
[26/12/2014, 3:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: SGG: good luck mine is like "this is too fucked up and I don't know what to tell you sorry here's your adderall"
[26/12/2014, 3:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: well, at first she was like politely nodding but then I came back for a session and she was like "ok so I independently discovered gamergate" (cause I hadn't used the name of it)
[26/12/2014, 3:58:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: particularly the pet related stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: and she found my wikipedia page and was like "jesus fuck that's my client"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:12 PM] drinternetphd: and was like "I couldn't understand before and thought I was missing something but no things are really just that fucked up"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I went to therapy after the fake girlfriend shit and they literally did the whole bootstraps thing with me
[26/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Peter Coffin: and I was like “well fuck this"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: warning, that shit's realllllllllll gross
[26/12/2014, 4:00:24 PM] Peter Coffin: therapy almost pisses me off now, I wanted help. now it’s like “I paid some shithead to not do anything” and they literally were like someone who didn’t believe in medication
[26/12/2014, 4:00:28 PM] Peter Coffin: it pissed me off
[26/12/2014, 4:00:54 PM] drinternetphd: something I cut from Depression Quest: the shit slog of trying to find a therapist that works for you
[26/12/2014, 4:03:20 PM] drinternetphd: what I do is go to a clinic my limited state insurance covers, talk for like 5 minutes, get my adderal prescription (since they can't prescribe more than one month at a time so I have to go back for each renewal) and go get it filled
[26/12/2014, 3:55:57 PM] Dan Olson: It wasn't, like, hardcore CP, but in a way it was almost worse
[26/12/2014, 3:56:06 PM] drinternetphd: dan I feel you. I had a similar experience when I was pulling shit together for patreon and my white house contact
[26/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Dan Olson: someone had written and illustrated this whole series of books written and styled like kids books, Dick and Jane style
[26/12/2014, 3:56:44 PM] Dan Olson: but the whole thing was grooming and pedo normalization
[26/12/2014, 3:56:47 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:57:01 PM] Peter Coffin: I believe it but I don’t want to
[26/12/2014, 3:57:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's part of a fucking horrible part of the human psyche, and sometimes all we can do is hope to be our best so that no one else goes down that hole
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've thankfully managed to generally avoid the child porn for the most part, but one of these days I really do need to break down in front of a therapist about the snuff stuff.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. that's like finding someone's murder tools.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:27 PM] Remy: oof
[26/12/2014, 3:57:31 PM] Remy: That's rough, SGG
[26/12/2014, 3:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: SGG: good luck mine is like "this is too fucked up and I don't know what to tell you sorry here's your adderall"
[26/12/2014, 3:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: well, at first she was like politely nodding but then I came back for a session and she was like "ok so I independently discovered gamergate" (cause I hadn't used the name of it)
[26/12/2014, 3:58:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: particularly the pet related stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: and she found my wikipedia page and was like "jesus fuck that's my client"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:12 PM] drinternetphd: and was like "I couldn't understand before and thought I was missing something but no things are really just that fucked up"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I went to therapy after the fake girlfriend shit and they literally did the whole bootstraps thing with me
[26/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Peter Coffin: and I was like “well fuck this"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: warning, that shit's realllllllllll gross
[26/12/2014, 4:00:24 PM] Peter Coffin: therapy almost pisses me off now, I wanted help. now it’s like “I paid some shithead to not do anything” and they literally were like someone who didn’t believe in medication
[26/12/2014, 4:00:28 PM] Peter Coffin: it pissed me off
[26/12/2014, 4:00:54 PM] drinternetphd: something I cut from Depression Quest: the shit slog of trying to find a therapist that works for you
[26/12/2014, 4:03:20 PM] drinternetphd: what I do is go to a clinic my limited state insurance covers, talk for like 5 minutes, get my adderal prescription (since they can't prescribe more than one month at a time so I have to go back for each renewal) and go get it filled
As if you weren't already aware, the anti-Gamergate rat king is full of the mentally ill. They also continued stalking Cernovich's past.
[26/12/2014, 4:04:01 PM] Peter Coffin: zoe that would be fine with me. I don’t want to fucking talk anymore
[26/12/2014, 4:04:10 PM] Peter Coffin: not to be combative
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I realized that sounded aggressie
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Dina : I believe that, Chris
[26/12/2014, 4:04:18 PM] drinternetphd: no I'm kinda the same
[26/12/2014, 4:04:19 PM] Remy: I just want something for my anxiety
[26/12/2014, 4:04:20 PM] Peter Coffin: aggressive
[26/12/2014, 4:04:23 PM] drinternetphd: talking stopped helping a long time ago
[26/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: And then I wanted to be screened for autism
[26/12/2014, 4:04:45 PM] Dina : and I'm sure none of these people are in Japan ahahahaha Mental stigma in Japan is horrifying
[26/12/2014, 4:04:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[26/12/2014, 4:04:55 PM] Dina : I'm surprised I haven't offed myself
[26/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry dina
[26/12/2014, 4:05:08 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who did JET said that any time he tried to get healthcare on that front they just told him to lose weight
[26/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Dan Olson: I'm aggressive with my Ativan. I just tell the doctor at the clinic what I'm there for, no faffing about talking about my anxiety hoping that they'll feel it merits something that strong.
[26/12/2014, 4:05:14 PM] drinternetphd: (he's not really that big)
[26/12/2014, 4:05:20 PM] Chris Kluwe: whoa. has juicebro ever mentioned being married?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:24 PM] drinternetphd: no?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:28 PM] Dina : Zoe yeah every year in the mandatory health check I was told I'm obese
[26/12/2014, 4:05:30 PM] drinternetphd: I know he says girlfriend a lot
[26/12/2014, 4:05:32 PM] drinternetphd:
[26/12/2014, 4:05:38 PM] Dina : yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Remy: I thought he was divorced?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: he must be
[26/12/2014, 4:05:52 PM] Chris Kluwe: this is from 2008
[26/12/2014, 4:05:53 PM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/12/why-you-should-send-thank-you-notes.html
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Peter Coffin: he has that “no one can handle me” vibe to him
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: and he references his spouse
[26/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Dina : good on her getting out
[26/12/2014, 4:06:16 PM] Peter Coffin: that “oh my god literally anyone would hate me” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:22 PM] Peter Coffin: that “I have raped people” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:28 PM] Remy: I swear he's mentioned being divorced before.
[26/12/2014, 4:06:32 PM] Dina : definitely the I have raped people vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:44 PM] Remy: I almost wanna say he's one of those douchebags that has to have a "Freedom Anniversary Party" on the day of his divorce
[26/12/2014, 4:06:51 PM] Remy: Y'know, to prove he's doing alright
[26/12/2014, 4:06:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "hey now that never went to trial"
[26/12/2014, 4:06:58 PM] Peter Coffin: I agree
[26/12/2014, 4:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that man is disgusting
[26/12/2014, 4:07:14 PM] drinternetphd: literally nothing redeeming
[26/12/2014, 4:04:10 PM] Peter Coffin: not to be combative
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I realized that sounded aggressie
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Dina : I believe that, Chris
[26/12/2014, 4:04:18 PM] drinternetphd: no I'm kinda the same
[26/12/2014, 4:04:19 PM] Remy: I just want something for my anxiety
[26/12/2014, 4:04:20 PM] Peter Coffin: aggressive
[26/12/2014, 4:04:23 PM] drinternetphd: talking stopped helping a long time ago
[26/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: And then I wanted to be screened for autism
[26/12/2014, 4:04:45 PM] Dina : and I'm sure none of these people are in Japan ahahahaha Mental stigma in Japan is horrifying
[26/12/2014, 4:04:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[26/12/2014, 4:04:55 PM] Dina : I'm surprised I haven't offed myself
[26/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry dina
[26/12/2014, 4:05:08 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who did JET said that any time he tried to get healthcare on that front they just told him to lose weight
[26/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Dan Olson: I'm aggressive with my Ativan. I just tell the doctor at the clinic what I'm there for, no faffing about talking about my anxiety hoping that they'll feel it merits something that strong.
[26/12/2014, 4:05:14 PM] drinternetphd: (he's not really that big)
[26/12/2014, 4:05:20 PM] Chris Kluwe: whoa. has juicebro ever mentioned being married?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:24 PM] drinternetphd: no?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:28 PM] Dina : Zoe yeah every year in the mandatory health check I was told I'm obese
[26/12/2014, 4:05:30 PM] drinternetphd: I know he says girlfriend a lot
[26/12/2014, 4:05:32 PM] drinternetphd:
[26/12/2014, 4:05:38 PM] Dina : yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Remy: I thought he was divorced?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: he must be
[26/12/2014, 4:05:52 PM] Chris Kluwe: this is from 2008
[26/12/2014, 4:05:53 PM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/12/why-you-should-send-thank-you-notes.html
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Peter Coffin: he has that “no one can handle me” vibe to him
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: and he references his spouse
[26/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Dina : good on her getting out
[26/12/2014, 4:06:16 PM] Peter Coffin: that “oh my god literally anyone would hate me” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:22 PM] Peter Coffin: that “I have raped people” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:28 PM] Remy: I swear he's mentioned being divorced before.
[26/12/2014, 4:06:32 PM] Dina : definitely the I have raped people vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:44 PM] Remy: I almost wanna say he's one of those douchebags that has to have a "Freedom Anniversary Party" on the day of his divorce
[26/12/2014, 4:06:51 PM] Remy: Y'know, to prove he's doing alright
[26/12/2014, 4:06:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "hey now that never went to trial"
[26/12/2014, 4:06:58 PM] Peter Coffin: I agree
[26/12/2014, 4:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that man is disgusting
[26/12/2014, 4:07:14 PM] drinternetphd: literally nothing redeeming
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there was a webcomic called Shredded Moose that made a comic about Blowy Zoe chomping on someone's dick. The creator of the comic had later tweeted at Brad Wardell and asked if Wardell was hiring, and was told to send in a resume if he was interested in working there. The two events were completely unrelated. On Christmas, the rat king was chimping about Wardell, and Lifshit said he wished they had "pocketed the Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory. (They had coordinated harassment of Wardell earlier in the month)
[26/12/2014, 4:12:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, it's already amazing that we got GG to bed down with Shredded Fucking Moose
[26/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I watched the movie today, thinking I was hate watching it, but laughed a few times. I can still pick it apart with a laundry list of horrible shit but it was less of a shit fest than I expected. that being said, being less of a shit fest is not a desirable thing
[26/12/2014, 4:12:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: i.e. literally the worst webcomic on the entire planet
[26/12/2014, 4:12:59 PM] Remy: Oh my god
[26/12/2014, 4:13:09 PM] Remy: And when Wardell offered him a job and then promptly died on that hill?
[26/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yyyyyyep
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] drinternetphd: wardell talked with my ex about it too.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] Remy: holy shit
[26/12/2014, 4:13:30 PM] drinternetphd: cause my ex can't not jump in and make this all about him
[26/12/2014, 4:13:32 PM] Peter Coffin: wardell seems like a fucking weirdo
[26/12/2014, 4:13:34 PM] Remy: I had zero doubt at that point that he was an eager contributor
[26/12/2014, 4:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: Yeah, I thought I'd bottomed out with crap like Chuggworth and Sexy Losers, but I hadn't heard of Shredded Moose before all this.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:39 PM] Remy: To the vitriol and abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:13:47 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Truth be told, I wish we had pocketed that Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory but that man is a garbage fire
[26/12/2014, 4:14:06 PM] Remy: I hope all of his employees have updated their resumes and sent them out
[26/12/2014, 4:14:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: You can't all go work at Stardock, chucklefucks.
[26/12/2014, 4:14:33 PM] Remy: I can't remember if I went through with it or not
[26/12/2014, 4:14:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Wait Zoe do you have bradwardell.jpeg handy
[26/12/2014, 4:14:46 PM] Remy: But I wanted to try and get Slade Villena hired at Stardock
[26/12/2014, 4:14:54 PM] Remy: Kind of like getting Jar Jar Binks hired at the Death Star?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:02 PM] drinternetphd: lol alex how did you know I was loding it up
[26/12/2014, 4:15:03 PM] Remy: Let the snake eat its own asshole somewhere else
[26/12/2014, 4:15:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: speaking of Slade
[26/12/2014, 4:15:24 PM] Dina : Are you guys sky ping each other from the same location?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: what do you think his reaction would be
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Dan Olson: "People need to be reporting this article, IMO. This is distributing blurred and easily exploitable images. Report it." MORE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE CSI IS A DOCUMENTARY!
[26/12/2014, 4:15:32 PM] Dina : cause that's cute as f
[26/12/2014, 4:15:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: if i linked him this?
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/10/why-im-not-in-t.html
[26/12/2014, 4:15:43 PM] drinternetphd: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2804kef&s=6#.VH97UItC1Po
[26/12/2014, 4:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: wardell.jpg
[26/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Remy: I have to read it first
[26/12/2014, 4:16:04 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 4:16:11 PM] drinternetphd: dina: maybe
[26/12/2014, 4:16:20 PM] Peter Coffin: slide might flip out
[26/12/2014, 4:16:25 PM] Peter Coffin: Slide Villain
[26/12/2014, 4:16:26 PM] Remy: We have to do that when we're ready to release that we know about these blogs
[26/12/2014, 4:16:32 PM] Remy: As soon as we go public with this
[26/12/2014, 4:16:38 PM] Remy: We HAVE to send this blog post to Villena
[26/12/2014, 4:16:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 4:16:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it'llbe so good
[26/12/2014, 4:16:56 PM] Dina : Next you're gonna tell me Alex is your known associate
[26/12/2014, 4:16:59 PM] drinternetphd: never
[26/12/2014, 4:17:10 PM] drinternetphd: never reveal the wutang secret
[26/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I watched the movie today, thinking I was hate watching it, but laughed a few times. I can still pick it apart with a laundry list of horrible shit but it was less of a shit fest than I expected. that being said, being less of a shit fest is not a desirable thing
[26/12/2014, 4:12:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: i.e. literally the worst webcomic on the entire planet
[26/12/2014, 4:12:59 PM] Remy: Oh my god
[26/12/2014, 4:13:09 PM] Remy: And when Wardell offered him a job and then promptly died on that hill?
[26/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yyyyyyep
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] drinternetphd: wardell talked with my ex about it too.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] Remy: holy shit
[26/12/2014, 4:13:30 PM] drinternetphd: cause my ex can't not jump in and make this all about him
[26/12/2014, 4:13:32 PM] Peter Coffin: wardell seems like a fucking weirdo
[26/12/2014, 4:13:34 PM] Remy: I had zero doubt at that point that he was an eager contributor
[26/12/2014, 4:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: Yeah, I thought I'd bottomed out with crap like Chuggworth and Sexy Losers, but I hadn't heard of Shredded Moose before all this.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:39 PM] Remy: To the vitriol and abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:13:47 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Truth be told, I wish we had pocketed that Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory but that man is a garbage fire
[26/12/2014, 4:14:06 PM] Remy: I hope all of his employees have updated their resumes and sent them out
[26/12/2014, 4:14:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: You can't all go work at Stardock, chucklefucks.
[26/12/2014, 4:14:33 PM] Remy: I can't remember if I went through with it or not
[26/12/2014, 4:14:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Wait Zoe do you have bradwardell.jpeg handy
[26/12/2014, 4:14:46 PM] Remy: But I wanted to try and get Slade Villena hired at Stardock
[26/12/2014, 4:14:54 PM] Remy: Kind of like getting Jar Jar Binks hired at the Death Star?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:02 PM] drinternetphd: lol alex how did you know I was loding it up
[26/12/2014, 4:15:03 PM] Remy: Let the snake eat its own asshole somewhere else
[26/12/2014, 4:15:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: speaking of Slade
[26/12/2014, 4:15:24 PM] Dina : Are you guys sky ping each other from the same location?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: what do you think his reaction would be
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Dan Olson: "People need to be reporting this article, IMO. This is distributing blurred and easily exploitable images. Report it." MORE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE CSI IS A DOCUMENTARY!
[26/12/2014, 4:15:32 PM] Dina : cause that's cute as f
[26/12/2014, 4:15:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: if i linked him this?
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/10/why-im-not-in-t.html
[26/12/2014, 4:15:43 PM] drinternetphd: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2804kef&s=6#.VH97UItC1Po
[26/12/2014, 4:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: wardell.jpg
[26/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Remy: I have to read it first
[26/12/2014, 4:16:04 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 4:16:11 PM] drinternetphd: dina: maybe
[26/12/2014, 4:16:20 PM] Peter Coffin: slide might flip out
[26/12/2014, 4:16:25 PM] Peter Coffin: Slide Villain
[26/12/2014, 4:16:26 PM] Remy: We have to do that when we're ready to release that we know about these blogs
[26/12/2014, 4:16:32 PM] Remy: As soon as we go public with this
[26/12/2014, 4:16:38 PM] Remy: We HAVE to send this blog post to Villena
[26/12/2014, 4:16:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 4:16:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it'llbe so good
[26/12/2014, 4:16:56 PM] Dina : Next you're gonna tell me Alex is your known associate
[26/12/2014, 4:16:59 PM] drinternetphd: never
[26/12/2014, 4:17:10 PM] drinternetphd: never reveal the wutang secret
Chelsea went on a chimpout over Eron Gjoni supposedly planning a sequel to the zoepost, and was massively butthurt because people actually read the thing and believed Chelsea to be an abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:16 PM] drinternetphd: like people still believe my ex was an innocent victim of abuse and was shocked when 4chan "found" his post. even though I have the threads he was posting shit in and calling up hotels trying to find out if I had ever stayed there to give them more info.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:56 PM] drinternetphd: people partially still believe it because they don't like the one person who has debunked it
[26/12/2014, 4:20:00 PM] drinternetphd: and I can't do it without risking court issues
[26/12/2014, 4:20:06 PM] drinternetphd: even though I have proof of everything
[26/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Dina : fuck
[26/12/2014, 4:20:46 PM] Dan Olson: They don't want to disbelieve it, so they will, by definition, hate whoever debunks it.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:48 PM] Remy: Zero of that POS's actions have ever provided a scrap of humanity to inspect. I have looked just to entertain the most distant fucking notion and I have found zero reason to believe that he is not an obsessed abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:56 PM] Dina : how about a class action lawsuit from all the people they've hurt?
[26/12/2014, 4:21:16 PM] Dina : so that you're not alone in the line of fire
[26/12/2014, 4:21:19 PM] drinternetphd: like
[26/12/2014, 4:21:20 PM] drinternetphd: https://idledillettante.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/c0deebc4977b41163de1b0eac0e398f5.png
[26/12/2014, 4:21:39 PM] Dina : sigh
[26/12/2014, 4:21:47 PM] Dina : humanity levels depleting
[26/12/2014, 4:22:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m archiving all the links in the juicebro trello card
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] drinternetphd: and since he's working on a fucking sequel I'm like
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] Remy: nice
[26/12/2014, 4:22:19 PM] drinternetphd: kinda pissed no one seems to have gotten the truth out
[26/12/2014, 4:22:32 PM] Dina : uh sequel?
[26/12/2014, 4:22:34 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's gonna fucking suck to have a round 2 of horrific fucking public abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:22:36 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:22:47 PM] Remy: I was disappointed in the "middle-of-the-road" pandering so many journalists took
[26/12/2014, 4:23:05 PM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think we'll see that again
[26/12/2014, 4:23:12 PM] Chris Kluwe: now they know the shit that comes of it
[26/12/2014, 4:23:21 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i'll definitely be calling them out if they try
[26/12/2014, 4:23:31 PM] Remy: Every lukewarm article seemed to add another resinous layer of legitimacy to this awful hate mob
[26/12/2014, 4:23:49 PM] drinternetphd: like fuck I have the 4chan threads he was posting in
[26/12/2014, 4:23:52 PM] drinternetphd: the amas he did on reddit
[26/12/2014, 4:23:56 PM] drinternetphd: the ama he did in the chatroom
[26/12/2014, 4:24:13 PM] Remy: Everyone who wasn't panning it was a two-sided political debate was just throwing up their arms going "Computers? Must be a tech issue"
[26/12/2014, 4:24:15 PM] drinternetphd: and people still believe this "whoopsie abuse victim" shit because he struck first
[26/12/2014, 4:24:41 PM] Dina : uuugh
[26/12/2014, 4:24:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "I'm Mike Cernovich, and it's about ethics in linking to Gawker!"
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-e.html
[26/12/2014, 4:24:58 PM] drinternetphd: like using the fucking right keyword dismisses any observation
[26/12/2014, 4:25:03 PM] Dina : yeah I remember that awful one guy hitting me at the beginning of GG like "how does it feel to support a rapist and abuser?"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:20 PM] Dina : and I was like "I WOULDN'T KNOW SUCK MY DICK CONSENSUALLY"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:23 PM] drinternetphd: which was fucking planned in those threads
[26/12/2014, 4:26:01 PM] Dina : sorry I'm not witty when angry Zoe
[26/12/2014, 4:26:06 PM] Peter Coffin: all juicebro blog posts on trello have been archived
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] Quinnae: I've talked to a lot of people in feminist circles who are very frustrated that some loud "SJWs" have taken Eron at his word because he used the right codewords. It keys into a larger problem I and others have identified in activist communities, where language becomes more important than the thing it describes.
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] drinternetphd: no no it's fine I'm just so fucking angry and let down
[26/12/2014, 4:26:14 PM] Peter Coffin: chris are you adding them to trello or no
[26/12/2014, 4:26:16 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 4:26:17 PM] Dina : also I refused to read your ex's textual masturbation
[26/12/2014, 4:26:26 PM] drinternetphd: thank you...
[26/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] drinternetphd: god that's like the shittiest part of this for me
[26/12/2014, 4:26:57 PM] Dina : I'm really sorry he put you through hell. He should be rotting in jail. I'm so sorry.
[26/12/2014, 4:27:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I haven’t read it either, it just seemed perverse to do. also was way before I knew much about you. there was literally a time I was fighting against these people without even knowing what it was about
[26/12/2014, 4:27:06 PM] drinternetphd: like GG is horrific enough as is but for me particularly it's fucking domestic abuse because I finally cut him out of my life
[26/12/2014, 4:19:56 PM] drinternetphd: people partially still believe it because they don't like the one person who has debunked it
[26/12/2014, 4:20:00 PM] drinternetphd: and I can't do it without risking court issues
[26/12/2014, 4:20:06 PM] drinternetphd: even though I have proof of everything
[26/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Dina : fuck
[26/12/2014, 4:20:46 PM] Dan Olson: They don't want to disbelieve it, so they will, by definition, hate whoever debunks it.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:48 PM] Remy: Zero of that POS's actions have ever provided a scrap of humanity to inspect. I have looked just to entertain the most distant fucking notion and I have found zero reason to believe that he is not an obsessed abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:56 PM] Dina : how about a class action lawsuit from all the people they've hurt?
[26/12/2014, 4:21:16 PM] Dina : so that you're not alone in the line of fire
[26/12/2014, 4:21:19 PM] drinternetphd: like
[26/12/2014, 4:21:20 PM] drinternetphd: https://idledillettante.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/c0deebc4977b41163de1b0eac0e398f5.png
[26/12/2014, 4:21:39 PM] Dina : sigh
[26/12/2014, 4:21:47 PM] Dina : humanity levels depleting
[26/12/2014, 4:22:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m archiving all the links in the juicebro trello card
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] drinternetphd: and since he's working on a fucking sequel I'm like
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] Remy: nice
[26/12/2014, 4:22:19 PM] drinternetphd: kinda pissed no one seems to have gotten the truth out
[26/12/2014, 4:22:32 PM] Dina : uh sequel?
[26/12/2014, 4:22:34 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's gonna fucking suck to have a round 2 of horrific fucking public abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:22:36 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:22:47 PM] Remy: I was disappointed in the "middle-of-the-road" pandering so many journalists took
[26/12/2014, 4:23:05 PM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think we'll see that again
[26/12/2014, 4:23:12 PM] Chris Kluwe: now they know the shit that comes of it
[26/12/2014, 4:23:21 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i'll definitely be calling them out if they try
[26/12/2014, 4:23:31 PM] Remy: Every lukewarm article seemed to add another resinous layer of legitimacy to this awful hate mob
[26/12/2014, 4:23:49 PM] drinternetphd: like fuck I have the 4chan threads he was posting in
[26/12/2014, 4:23:52 PM] drinternetphd: the amas he did on reddit
[26/12/2014, 4:23:56 PM] drinternetphd: the ama he did in the chatroom
[26/12/2014, 4:24:13 PM] Remy: Everyone who wasn't panning it was a two-sided political debate was just throwing up their arms going "Computers? Must be a tech issue"
[26/12/2014, 4:24:15 PM] drinternetphd: and people still believe this "whoopsie abuse victim" shit because he struck first
[26/12/2014, 4:24:41 PM] Dina : uuugh
[26/12/2014, 4:24:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "I'm Mike Cernovich, and it's about ethics in linking to Gawker!"
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-e.html
[26/12/2014, 4:24:58 PM] drinternetphd: like using the fucking right keyword dismisses any observation
[26/12/2014, 4:25:03 PM] Dina : yeah I remember that awful one guy hitting me at the beginning of GG like "how does it feel to support a rapist and abuser?"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:20 PM] Dina : and I was like "I WOULDN'T KNOW SUCK MY DICK CONSENSUALLY"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:23 PM] drinternetphd: which was fucking planned in those threads
[26/12/2014, 4:26:01 PM] Dina : sorry I'm not witty when angry Zoe
[26/12/2014, 4:26:06 PM] Peter Coffin: all juicebro blog posts on trello have been archived
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] Quinnae: I've talked to a lot of people in feminist circles who are very frustrated that some loud "SJWs" have taken Eron at his word because he used the right codewords. It keys into a larger problem I and others have identified in activist communities, where language becomes more important than the thing it describes.
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] drinternetphd: no no it's fine I'm just so fucking angry and let down
[26/12/2014, 4:26:14 PM] Peter Coffin: chris are you adding them to trello or no
[26/12/2014, 4:26:16 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 4:26:17 PM] Dina : also I refused to read your ex's textual masturbation
[26/12/2014, 4:26:26 PM] drinternetphd: thank you...
[26/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] drinternetphd: god that's like the shittiest part of this for me
[26/12/2014, 4:26:57 PM] Dina : I'm really sorry he put you through hell. He should be rotting in jail. I'm so sorry.
[26/12/2014, 4:27:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I haven’t read it either, it just seemed perverse to do. also was way before I knew much about you. there was literally a time I was fighting against these people without even knowing what it was about
[26/12/2014, 4:27:06 PM] drinternetphd: like GG is horrific enough as is but for me particularly it's fucking domestic abuse because I finally cut him out of my life
Chelsea was "so fucking mad" that the hudge at the last Van Valkenburg vs. Gjoni court session had told her to stop sperging out over the internet, which Chelsea says is her "workplace."
[26/12/2014, 4:43:49 PM] drinternetphd: I'm still so fucking mad that the magistrate told me the harassment didn't count cause it was online
[26/12/2014, 4:44:02 PM] drinternetphd: and if I didn't want to get harassed I should get offline forever and switch careers
[26/12/2014, 4:44:06 PM] Dan Olson: I would be livid at that, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: that's something the legal system really needs to get into gear and address
[26/12/2014, 4:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:14 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that makes me mad too. I can’t believe someone said that to you
[26/12/2014, 4:44:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: because the internet isn't going away anytime soon
[26/12/2014, 4:44:19 PM] drinternetphd: nope
[26/12/2014, 4:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: and it's my fucking workplace
[26/12/2014, 4:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: "get a new career" should not be fucking advice
[26/12/2014, 4:44:02 PM] drinternetphd: and if I didn't want to get harassed I should get offline forever and switch careers
[26/12/2014, 4:44:06 PM] Dan Olson: I would be livid at that, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: that's something the legal system really needs to get into gear and address
[26/12/2014, 4:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:14 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that makes me mad too. I can’t believe someone said that to you
[26/12/2014, 4:44:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: because the internet isn't going away anytime soon
[26/12/2014, 4:44:19 PM] drinternetphd: nope
[26/12/2014, 4:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: and it's my fucking workplace
[26/12/2014, 4:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: "get a new career" should not be fucking advice
Here we have sociopath Awex Lifshit describing his 3-step plan to take down Gamergate, with Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopolous named as their primary targets along with 8chan.
[27/12/2014, 2:09:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: As far as the article goes, I'm curious to see if anyone picks it up before anything is said about it. Certainly not an extinction event.
[27/12/2014, 2:11:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: But, if you want to well and truly make it near impossible for them to operate, you gotta
1. Take GG's breeding grounds offline (principally 8chan)
2. Give proverbial black eyes to key figureheads in ways that prevent them from exerting power and
3. Get the entities whose silence enabled GG to finally take a stand.
[27/12/2014, 2:12:08 AM] drinternetphd: that's kind of what we've been working for
[27/12/2014, 2:12:42 AM] drinternetphd: at least now that things are less survival mode (though still fairly in that territory)
[27/12/2014, 2:13:38 AM] Athena Hollow: definitely.
[27/12/2014, 2:15:19 AM] drinternetphd: salt the earth
[27/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It looks more and more like we actually stand a shot at number 1 if Dan's article gets picked up by anyone, but we have to hope it remains evergreen as the holidays wind down.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Number two, well, there are a few key players but plans for each of them.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Three, well, that's longer term.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Ian Cheong: Does number two involve grabbing RogueStar by the scruff of his neck and rubbing his nose in shit?
[27/12/2014, 2:18:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It may involve the FBI paying him a visit (being hopeful here)
[27/12/2014, 2:19:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Roguestar is thoroughly fucked, as is PressFart, both shadows of their former presence and a joke even by GG's standards these days.
[27/12/2014, 2:19:34 AM] Peter Coffin: I played Rogue's demo today
[27/12/2014, 2:19:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Big players in my mind are Cernovich and Milo, both of whom we have vague directions for.
[27/12/2014, 2:11:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: But, if you want to well and truly make it near impossible for them to operate, you gotta
1. Take GG's breeding grounds offline (principally 8chan)
2. Give proverbial black eyes to key figureheads in ways that prevent them from exerting power and
3. Get the entities whose silence enabled GG to finally take a stand.
[27/12/2014, 2:12:08 AM] drinternetphd: that's kind of what we've been working for
[27/12/2014, 2:12:42 AM] drinternetphd: at least now that things are less survival mode (though still fairly in that territory)
[27/12/2014, 2:13:38 AM] Athena Hollow: definitely.
[27/12/2014, 2:15:19 AM] drinternetphd: salt the earth
[27/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It looks more and more like we actually stand a shot at number 1 if Dan's article gets picked up by anyone, but we have to hope it remains evergreen as the holidays wind down.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Number two, well, there are a few key players but plans for each of them.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Three, well, that's longer term.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Ian Cheong: Does number two involve grabbing RogueStar by the scruff of his neck and rubbing his nose in shit?
[27/12/2014, 2:18:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It may involve the FBI paying him a visit (being hopeful here)
[27/12/2014, 2:19:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Roguestar is thoroughly fucked, as is PressFart, both shadows of their former presence and a joke even by GG's standards these days.
[27/12/2014, 2:19:34 AM] Peter Coffin: I played Rogue's demo today
[27/12/2014, 2:19:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Big players in my mind are Cernovich and Milo, both of whom we have vague directions for.
Chelsea also chimped out about TotalBiscuit, again, because he said something negative about Twine once and Chelsea thought she might "take a swing" at him next time she saw him.
[27/12/2014, 9:34:43 PM] Rob: time to scan total biscuit's twitter for stuff to make fun of, because I'm in a mean mood
[27/12/2014, 9:36:03 PM] drinternetphd: I wish I didn't have standards sometimes
[27/12/2014, 9:36:14 PM] drinternetphd: else I would post our email convo
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] drinternetphd: I hate how so many of my friends want to speak out against him but are afraid to
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] Rob: And I'm like "Then why don';t you get the fuck out and go back there?"
[27/12/2014, 9:41:32 PM] drinternetphd: also fuck him for shitting on twine
[27/12/2014, 9:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: fuck him fuck him fuck him
[27/12/2014, 9:41:42 PM] Remy: TB talking about US probably sounds just like American bros talking about Britain. fart sounds
[27/12/2014, 9:41:46 PM] Remy: lol
[27/12/2014, 9:41:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I hate what he said about Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:41:57 PM] Rob: Oh, but see zoe, what he REALLY meant was that greedo shot first and midichlorians are what gives youtube reviewers like him their special powers
[27/12/2014, 9:42:05 PM] drinternetphd: the amount of good twine has done for people makes me worry that the next time I see him I will take a swing
[27/12/2014, 9:42:08 PM] Remy: Of course he can shit on Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:42:11 PM] Remy: He doesn't make anything
[27/12/2014, 9:42:15 PM] Remy: He just has opinions
[27/12/2014, 9:42:22 PM] drinternetphd: I wish this was pre gamergate
[27/12/2014, 9:42:27 PM] drinternetphd: cause I can't say what I want to
[27/12/2014, 9:42:29 PM] Rob: I kind of want to go to MAG since it's near where I live, but I don't think anyone I'd want to meet would go there
[27/12/2014, 9:42:33 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to tweet like
[27/12/2014, 9:42:47 PM] drinternetphd: "if you marginalize a game engine over a stupid grudge with a woman you've never met maybe shut up forever"
[27/12/2014, 9:42:48 PM] drinternetphd: or
[27/12/2014, 9:43:03 PM] drinternetphd: rephrase what he said to me when he first shat the bed and came after me in august
[27/12/2014, 9:43:10 PM] drinternetphd: "you didn't seem to have a problem with it when you were promoting my game"
[27/12/2014, 9:43:20 PM] Rob: HAHAHAH
[27/12/2014, 9:43:33 PM] Rob: Zoe, if you want, if he shittalks twine again
[27/12/2014, 9:43:36 PM] Rob: I could say something like that.
[27/12/2014, 9:43:43 PM] drinternetphd: yeah go nuts I don't fucking care
[27/12/2014, 9:43:45 PM] Rob: "You didn't seem to have a problem with Twine when you were promoting Twine games."
[27/12/2014, 9:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: I can't do it cause my beef bandwidth is maxed
[27/12/2014, 9:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: tho he will likely respond with some variation of calling me a bitch so w/e
[27/12/2014, 9:44:11 PM] Rob: Yeah I don't want to direct more hate your way even by proxy
[27/12/2014, 9:44:25 PM] drinternetphd: fucking youtube
[27/12/2014, 9:44:28 PM] Rob: I can just keep attacking him in general. I find it funny b/c his fans randomly find it and start tagging him in to try to intimidate me.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: making mountains out of molehills just with people
[27/12/2014, 9:44:46 PM] Rob: I need to start making more videos again
[27/12/2014, 9:44:48 PM] Ian Cheong: It's a shitshow.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:52 PM] Rob: Since YT is basically gamergate dominated
[27/12/2014, 9:45:07 PM] Rob: And I feel bad leaving Zennistrad out there all by his lonesome.
[27/12/2014, 9:45:17 PM] Rob: I may turn a small paper I did on gamergate into the basis for a script.
[27/12/2014, 9:47:39 PM] drinternetphd: what's a good synonym for "mob"
[27/12/2014, 9:47:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Hmmm
[27/12/2014, 9:47:48 PM] drinternetphd: yt isn't gg dominated
[27/12/2014, 9:36:03 PM] drinternetphd: I wish I didn't have standards sometimes
[27/12/2014, 9:36:14 PM] drinternetphd: else I would post our email convo
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] drinternetphd: I hate how so many of my friends want to speak out against him but are afraid to
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] Rob: And I'm like "Then why don';t you get the fuck out and go back there?"
[27/12/2014, 9:41:32 PM] drinternetphd: also fuck him for shitting on twine
[27/12/2014, 9:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: fuck him fuck him fuck him
[27/12/2014, 9:41:42 PM] Remy: TB talking about US probably sounds just like American bros talking about Britain. fart sounds
[27/12/2014, 9:41:46 PM] Remy: lol
[27/12/2014, 9:41:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I hate what he said about Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:41:57 PM] Rob: Oh, but see zoe, what he REALLY meant was that greedo shot first and midichlorians are what gives youtube reviewers like him their special powers
[27/12/2014, 9:42:05 PM] drinternetphd: the amount of good twine has done for people makes me worry that the next time I see him I will take a swing
[27/12/2014, 9:42:08 PM] Remy: Of course he can shit on Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:42:11 PM] Remy: He doesn't make anything
[27/12/2014, 9:42:15 PM] Remy: He just has opinions
[27/12/2014, 9:42:22 PM] drinternetphd: I wish this was pre gamergate
[27/12/2014, 9:42:27 PM] drinternetphd: cause I can't say what I want to
[27/12/2014, 9:42:29 PM] Rob: I kind of want to go to MAG since it's near where I live, but I don't think anyone I'd want to meet would go there
[27/12/2014, 9:42:33 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to tweet like
[27/12/2014, 9:42:47 PM] drinternetphd: "if you marginalize a game engine over a stupid grudge with a woman you've never met maybe shut up forever"
[27/12/2014, 9:42:48 PM] drinternetphd: or
[27/12/2014, 9:43:03 PM] drinternetphd: rephrase what he said to me when he first shat the bed and came after me in august
[27/12/2014, 9:43:10 PM] drinternetphd: "you didn't seem to have a problem with it when you were promoting my game"
[27/12/2014, 9:43:20 PM] Rob: HAHAHAH
[27/12/2014, 9:43:33 PM] Rob: Zoe, if you want, if he shittalks twine again
[27/12/2014, 9:43:36 PM] Rob: I could say something like that.
[27/12/2014, 9:43:43 PM] drinternetphd: yeah go nuts I don't fucking care
[27/12/2014, 9:43:45 PM] Rob: "You didn't seem to have a problem with Twine when you were promoting Twine games."
[27/12/2014, 9:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: I can't do it cause my beef bandwidth is maxed
[27/12/2014, 9:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: tho he will likely respond with some variation of calling me a bitch so w/e
[27/12/2014, 9:44:11 PM] Rob: Yeah I don't want to direct more hate your way even by proxy
[27/12/2014, 9:44:25 PM] drinternetphd: fucking youtube
[27/12/2014, 9:44:28 PM] Rob: I can just keep attacking him in general. I find it funny b/c his fans randomly find it and start tagging him in to try to intimidate me.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: making mountains out of molehills just with people
[27/12/2014, 9:44:46 PM] Rob: I need to start making more videos again
[27/12/2014, 9:44:48 PM] Ian Cheong: It's a shitshow.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:52 PM] Rob: Since YT is basically gamergate dominated
[27/12/2014, 9:45:07 PM] Rob: And I feel bad leaving Zennistrad out there all by his lonesome.
[27/12/2014, 9:45:17 PM] Rob: I may turn a small paper I did on gamergate into the basis for a script.
[27/12/2014, 9:47:39 PM] drinternetphd: what's a good synonym for "mob"
[27/12/2014, 9:47:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Hmmm
[27/12/2014, 9:47:48 PM] drinternetphd: yt isn't gg dominated
Chelsea was writhing something for BoingBoing which meant it "counts like a lot" according to Chelsea. Chelsea planned to include the Foldable Pedo's article and the Southern Poverty Law Center's 'Hatewatch.'
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] drinternetphd: I only touch on gg to make a point about the culture at large but I like having a lot of synonyms
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] Remy: host* not hose BTW
[27/12/2014, 9:51:05 PM] drinternetphd: I don't like repeating words
[27/12/2014, 9:51:15 PM] Remy: I don't know if Skype or Apple hates me, but fuck both of them without lube
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: super rough thing I read once and haven't done a thing about
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: Over the last few months, the struggle for the culture surrounding the production and enjoyment of video games that has been bubbling under the surface for years has seemingly come to a head. For the uninitiated, an online mob so bad it has been followed as a hate group has been raging against progressive voices in the industry hiding behind the dogwhistle politic of “ethics in games journalism”. I’ve watched it do so firsthand as the horde made me their Franz Ferdinand of their culture war. All of the abuse, conservative grandstanding, and defense of child pornography aside, one of the more unfortunate elements of this whole debacule has been that they’ve been able to sweep up otherwise well-meaning, functional people with a salient point: there are massive problems within the games industry, but none of them are being addressed by the throng of screaming 4channers.
[27/12/2014, 9:52:05 PM] drinternetphd: god I forgot how much beer helps me write I am like a fucking drunken monk but with living instead of fighting
[27/12/2014, 9:52:39 PM] drinternetphd: paragraph 2 is touching on some of the issues that have arisen as a result of a bloated and garbage mainstream games industry
[27/12/2014, 9:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: and then paragraph 3 starts drawing comparisons between that and the music industry of the 1970s and 1980s that grave rise to the punk scene
[27/12/2014, 9:53:01 PM] drinternetphd: and why games needs more of that
[27/12/2014, 9:57:11 PM] drinternetphd: also adding this to the first paragraph
[27/12/2014, 9:57:12 PM] drinternetphd: "What these people don’t realize, largely due to the opaqueness that has been fostered by the industry, is that they’re laughably late on the scene and are even attacking those who have been fighting against harmful industry standards."
[27/12/2014, 9:57:25 PM] drinternetphd: I am on fire
[27/12/2014, 9:57:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, this is good.
[27/12/2014, 9:57:36 PM] drinternetphd: this is for boingboing
[27/12/2014, 9:57:37 PM] drinternetphd: so it counts
[27/12/2014, 9:57:39 PM] drinternetphd: like a lot
[27/12/2014, 9:57:43 PM] Rob: Oh, hm, noticed this - "so bad it has been followed as a hate group" do you mean that people are joining it as a hate group, or people are declaring it a hate group
[27/12/2014, 9:58:03 PM] drinternetphd: people are declaring it as a hategroup and I am going to link to southern poverty law center's hatewatch
[27/12/2014, 9:58:24 PM] Rob: Kk, that was gonna be my next question ("who are you referencing")
[27/12/2014, 9:58:29 PM] drinternetphd: there's gonna be links to dan's article for the CP thing, and an undecided article for the abuse thing
[27/12/2014, 9:58:35 PM] drinternetphd: cause there are so many to choose from
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] Remy: host* not hose BTW
[27/12/2014, 9:51:05 PM] drinternetphd: I don't like repeating words
[27/12/2014, 9:51:15 PM] Remy: I don't know if Skype or Apple hates me, but fuck both of them without lube
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: super rough thing I read once and haven't done a thing about
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: Over the last few months, the struggle for the culture surrounding the production and enjoyment of video games that has been bubbling under the surface for years has seemingly come to a head. For the uninitiated, an online mob so bad it has been followed as a hate group has been raging against progressive voices in the industry hiding behind the dogwhistle politic of “ethics in games journalism”. I’ve watched it do so firsthand as the horde made me their Franz Ferdinand of their culture war. All of the abuse, conservative grandstanding, and defense of child pornography aside, one of the more unfortunate elements of this whole debacule has been that they’ve been able to sweep up otherwise well-meaning, functional people with a salient point: there are massive problems within the games industry, but none of them are being addressed by the throng of screaming 4channers.
[27/12/2014, 9:52:05 PM] drinternetphd: god I forgot how much beer helps me write I am like a fucking drunken monk but with living instead of fighting
[27/12/2014, 9:52:39 PM] drinternetphd: paragraph 2 is touching on some of the issues that have arisen as a result of a bloated and garbage mainstream games industry
[27/12/2014, 9:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: and then paragraph 3 starts drawing comparisons between that and the music industry of the 1970s and 1980s that grave rise to the punk scene
[27/12/2014, 9:53:01 PM] drinternetphd: and why games needs more of that
[27/12/2014, 9:57:11 PM] drinternetphd: also adding this to the first paragraph
[27/12/2014, 9:57:12 PM] drinternetphd: "What these people don’t realize, largely due to the opaqueness that has been fostered by the industry, is that they’re laughably late on the scene and are even attacking those who have been fighting against harmful industry standards."
[27/12/2014, 9:57:25 PM] drinternetphd: I am on fire
[27/12/2014, 9:57:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, this is good.
[27/12/2014, 9:57:36 PM] drinternetphd: this is for boingboing
[27/12/2014, 9:57:37 PM] drinternetphd: so it counts
[27/12/2014, 9:57:39 PM] drinternetphd: like a lot
[27/12/2014, 9:57:43 PM] Rob: Oh, hm, noticed this - "so bad it has been followed as a hate group" do you mean that people are joining it as a hate group, or people are declaring it a hate group
[27/12/2014, 9:58:03 PM] drinternetphd: people are declaring it as a hategroup and I am going to link to southern poverty law center's hatewatch
[27/12/2014, 9:58:24 PM] Rob: Kk, that was gonna be my next question ("who are you referencing")
[27/12/2014, 9:58:29 PM] drinternetphd: there's gonna be links to dan's article for the CP thing, and an undecided article for the abuse thing
[27/12/2014, 9:58:35 PM] drinternetphd: cause there are so many to choose from
Chelsea clamed to have had C cup breasts since the third grade, which would be around 8-9 years old.
[27/12/2014, 10:10:29 PM] drinternetphd: to be fair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:38 PM] drinternetphd: I did start dying my hair to spite men who hate dyed hair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:51 PM] drinternetphd: I didn't want anyone to talk to me if they were the sort who would care about such a thign
[27/12/2014, 10:10:53 PM] drinternetphd: *thing
[27/12/2014, 10:11:02 PM] drinternetphd: I called it my "asshole filter"
[27/12/2014, 10:11:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Keeps the jerks out of your way.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:11 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: plus being a blonde teen who was 13 but looked 18 made me kind of hate a lot of people very early on
[27/12/2014, 10:13:39 PM] Rob: Oh god, I could imagine
[27/12/2014, 10:13:42 PM] drinternetphd: espeically growing up in a biker club where when you're a girl, your path is very clearly laid out
[27/12/2014, 10:13:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Ugh, yeah.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: yeah I got a c cup in 3rd grade too
[27/12/2014, 10:13:53 PM] drinternetphd: I had people creeping on me my whole life
[27/12/2014, 10:14:05 PM] Ian Cheong: That's incredibly shitty.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:13 PM] drinternetphd: it is and it isn't.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: my mom was hyper gender essentialist too
[27/12/2014, 10:14:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I think she knew I was kinda off
[27/12/2014, 10:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and kinda queer
[27/12/2014, 10:14:37 PM] drinternetphd: and panicked
[27/12/2014, 10:15:01 PM] drinternetphd: my childhood was kind of horrific in ways I won't ever talk about but it did teach me who I was and what I wanted at an accelerated pace
[27/12/2014, 10:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I got so into riot grrrl
[27/12/2014, 10:15:26 PM] drinternetphd: it was a rejection of everything violently forced upon me since I was born
[27/12/2014, 10:15:52 PM] Remy: Having to grow up fast in order to stay alive didn't really feel like it taught me who I was so much as it taught me how to recognize what i wasn't
[27/12/2014, 10:15:59 PM] drinternetphd: it's why leaving that small town behind and risking being a creator was the single most important thing that I've done in my life, and the thing that made me stop sucking so goddamned much
[27/12/2014, 10:16:04 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:16:07 PM] Remy: I grew up striving not to be like the negative people around in lie
[27/12/2014, 10:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's a better way to put it
[27/12/2014, 10:16:10 PM] Remy: life*
[27/12/2014, 10:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: places like that have an inertia to them, I think
[27/12/2014, 10:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: people rarely get out, for good reason. the deck is very stacked against you
[27/12/2014, 10:16:55 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I can forgive a lot
[27/12/2014, 10:17:13 PM] drinternetphd: even basic awareness becomes challenging
[27/12/2014, 10:17:18 PM] Remy: To this day I don't know what made me the personality type to swim against the tide instead of bend and become your tormentors or their accomplices
[27/12/2014, 10:17:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. I feel the same.
[27/12/2014, 10:17:34 PM] Remy: your* in the generic sense, not to anyone specific in this room
[27/12/2014, 10:17:44 PM] Remy: I communicate myself poorly v.v
[27/12/2014, 10:17:53 PM] drinternetphd: freak chaotic incidentialness is what I chalk it up to in my case
[27/12/2014, 10:10:38 PM] drinternetphd: I did start dying my hair to spite men who hate dyed hair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:51 PM] drinternetphd: I didn't want anyone to talk to me if they were the sort who would care about such a thign
[27/12/2014, 10:10:53 PM] drinternetphd: *thing
[27/12/2014, 10:11:02 PM] drinternetphd: I called it my "asshole filter"
[27/12/2014, 10:11:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Keeps the jerks out of your way.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:11 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: plus being a blonde teen who was 13 but looked 18 made me kind of hate a lot of people very early on
[27/12/2014, 10:13:39 PM] Rob: Oh god, I could imagine
[27/12/2014, 10:13:42 PM] drinternetphd: espeically growing up in a biker club where when you're a girl, your path is very clearly laid out
[27/12/2014, 10:13:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Ugh, yeah.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: yeah I got a c cup in 3rd grade too
[27/12/2014, 10:13:53 PM] drinternetphd: I had people creeping on me my whole life
[27/12/2014, 10:14:05 PM] Ian Cheong: That's incredibly shitty.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:13 PM] drinternetphd: it is and it isn't.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: my mom was hyper gender essentialist too
[27/12/2014, 10:14:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I think she knew I was kinda off
[27/12/2014, 10:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and kinda queer
[27/12/2014, 10:14:37 PM] drinternetphd: and panicked
[27/12/2014, 10:15:01 PM] drinternetphd: my childhood was kind of horrific in ways I won't ever talk about but it did teach me who I was and what I wanted at an accelerated pace
[27/12/2014, 10:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I got so into riot grrrl
[27/12/2014, 10:15:26 PM] drinternetphd: it was a rejection of everything violently forced upon me since I was born
[27/12/2014, 10:15:52 PM] Remy: Having to grow up fast in order to stay alive didn't really feel like it taught me who I was so much as it taught me how to recognize what i wasn't
[27/12/2014, 10:15:59 PM] drinternetphd: it's why leaving that small town behind and risking being a creator was the single most important thing that I've done in my life, and the thing that made me stop sucking so goddamned much
[27/12/2014, 10:16:04 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:16:07 PM] Remy: I grew up striving not to be like the negative people around in lie
[27/12/2014, 10:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's a better way to put it
[27/12/2014, 10:16:10 PM] Remy: life*
[27/12/2014, 10:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: places like that have an inertia to them, I think
[27/12/2014, 10:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: people rarely get out, for good reason. the deck is very stacked against you
[27/12/2014, 10:16:55 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I can forgive a lot
[27/12/2014, 10:17:13 PM] drinternetphd: even basic awareness becomes challenging
[27/12/2014, 10:17:18 PM] Remy: To this day I don't know what made me the personality type to swim against the tide instead of bend and become your tormentors or their accomplices
[27/12/2014, 10:17:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. I feel the same.
[27/12/2014, 10:17:34 PM] Remy: your* in the generic sense, not to anyone specific in this room
[27/12/2014, 10:17:44 PM] Remy: I communicate myself poorly v.v
[27/12/2014, 10:17:53 PM] drinternetphd: freak chaotic incidentialness is what I chalk it up to in my case
Accorching to Chelsea, Notch of Minecraft fame was at the time giving her $50 a month on Patreon and thought Depression Quest was an "important piece of art."
[27/12/2014, 10:32:55 PM] Rob: I mean, Notch owns the most expensive house in... what, Malibu? or whatever? now?
[27/12/2014, 10:32:57 PM] drinternetphd: but I decided at GameCity I am dedicating myself to this path of promoting altgames
[27/12/2014, 10:33:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Beverly Hills, Rob.
[27/12/2014, 10:33:13 PM] drinternetphd: idk, I adore markus but I don't ask him these things
[27/12/2014, 10:33:23 PM] Rob: ah, Beverly hills
[27/12/2014, 10:33:28 PM] Rob: And it's public record stuff
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] drinternetphd: that's irrelelvant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] Rob: Like he bought the most expensive house, I saw a few articles
[27/12/2014, 10:33:39 PM] drinternetphd: *irrelevant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:45 PM] Rob: No, I just mean that indie games are a path to success, obv
[27/12/2014, 10:33:48 PM] drinternetphd: right
[27/12/2014, 10:33:53 PM] drinternetphd: hmm hmm hmm
[27/12/2014, 10:34:01 PM] Rob: And Notch funds other people making games now too, IIRC
[27/12/2014, 10:34:09 PM] Rob: So it's becoming increasingly viable
[27/12/2014, 10:34:17 PM] drinternetphd: he funds me.
[27/12/2014, 10:34:18 PM] Rob: Or like, the No Man's Sky team will probably make $$$
[27/12/2014, 10:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: not to that degree
[27/12/2014, 10:34:51 PM] drinternetphd: $50 a month on patreon tho
[27/12/2014, 10:35:00 PM] Rob: Rob nods.
[27/12/2014, 10:35:04 PM] drinternetphd: all my big supporters are similarly successsful indies
[27/12/2014, 10:35:14 PM] drinternetphd: that I have done a lot for behind scenes
[27/12/2014, 10:35:25 PM] drinternetphd: (I am so good at promoting other people's shit but garbage at my own)
[27/12/2014, 10:35:31 PM] drinternetphd: it's always funny when that happens cause like
[27/12/2014, 10:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: I don't promote people based on my relationship with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:47 PM] drinternetphd: so a lot of the time I won't have even talked with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:59 PM] drinternetphd: so when they're suddenly supportive I'm like "oshit they noticed me"
[27/12/2014, 10:36:04 PM] Rob:
[27/12/2014, 10:36:10 PM] drinternetphd: #shitgamergatewouldneverbelieve
[27/12/2014, 10:36:13 PM] Ian Cheong: That must come as a pleasant surprise.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it's nice
[27/12/2014, 10:36:24 PM] drinternetphd: like I met markus after he'd played my game
[27/12/2014, 10:36:39 PM] drinternetphd: and it broke my brain. he told me it mattered to him and that he thought it was an important piece of art
[27/12/2014, 10:36:48 PM] Rob: That's awesome.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:36:54 PM] drinternetphd: he's a really sweet guy
[27/12/2014, 10:37:00 PM] drinternetphd: who wasn't expecting to get rich
[27/12/2014, 10:37:16 PM] drinternetphd: like you can still find the original tigsource threads from when he was prototypin
[27/12/2014, 10:32:57 PM] drinternetphd: but I decided at GameCity I am dedicating myself to this path of promoting altgames
[27/12/2014, 10:33:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Beverly Hills, Rob.
[27/12/2014, 10:33:13 PM] drinternetphd: idk, I adore markus but I don't ask him these things
[27/12/2014, 10:33:23 PM] Rob: ah, Beverly hills
[27/12/2014, 10:33:28 PM] Rob: And it's public record stuff
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] drinternetphd: that's irrelelvant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] Rob: Like he bought the most expensive house, I saw a few articles
[27/12/2014, 10:33:39 PM] drinternetphd: *irrelevant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:45 PM] Rob: No, I just mean that indie games are a path to success, obv
[27/12/2014, 10:33:48 PM] drinternetphd: right
[27/12/2014, 10:33:53 PM] drinternetphd: hmm hmm hmm
[27/12/2014, 10:34:01 PM] Rob: And Notch funds other people making games now too, IIRC
[27/12/2014, 10:34:09 PM] Rob: So it's becoming increasingly viable
[27/12/2014, 10:34:17 PM] drinternetphd: he funds me.
[27/12/2014, 10:34:18 PM] Rob: Or like, the No Man's Sky team will probably make $$$
[27/12/2014, 10:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: not to that degree
[27/12/2014, 10:34:51 PM] drinternetphd: $50 a month on patreon tho
[27/12/2014, 10:35:00 PM] Rob: Rob nods.
[27/12/2014, 10:35:04 PM] drinternetphd: all my big supporters are similarly successsful indies
[27/12/2014, 10:35:14 PM] drinternetphd: that I have done a lot for behind scenes
[27/12/2014, 10:35:25 PM] drinternetphd: (I am so good at promoting other people's shit but garbage at my own)
[27/12/2014, 10:35:31 PM] drinternetphd: it's always funny when that happens cause like
[27/12/2014, 10:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: I don't promote people based on my relationship with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:47 PM] drinternetphd: so a lot of the time I won't have even talked with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:59 PM] drinternetphd: so when they're suddenly supportive I'm like "oshit they noticed me"
[27/12/2014, 10:36:04 PM] Rob:
[27/12/2014, 10:36:10 PM] drinternetphd: #shitgamergatewouldneverbelieve
[27/12/2014, 10:36:13 PM] Ian Cheong: That must come as a pleasant surprise.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it's nice
[27/12/2014, 10:36:24 PM] drinternetphd: like I met markus after he'd played my game
[27/12/2014, 10:36:39 PM] drinternetphd: and it broke my brain. he told me it mattered to him and that he thought it was an important piece of art
[27/12/2014, 10:36:48 PM] Rob: That's awesome.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:36:54 PM] drinternetphd: he's a really sweet guy
[27/12/2014, 10:37:00 PM] drinternetphd: who wasn't expecting to get rich
[27/12/2014, 10:37:16 PM] drinternetphd: like you can still find the original tigsource threads from when he was prototypin
Chelsea bragged about the games she is supposed to be in and said she was "hyperventilating in starbucks" because the developer of Gone Home had used the name 'Quinn' as part of an Easter egg. This lead to Chelsea sperging out about Eron, again.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:42 PM] Ian Cheong: That's why I liked gone home so much. It subverted a lot of my expectations.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:48 PM] drinternetphd: gone home was beautiful
[27/12/2014, 10:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: yknow I'm in that game right
[27/12/2014, 10:44:04 PM] Ian Cheong: You are???
[27/12/2014, 10:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: mhmm
[27/12/2014, 10:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: the final book in the pentagram room
[27/12/2014, 10:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: was written by "christine quinn"
[27/12/2014, 10:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: karla mashed christine and I together
[27/12/2014, 10:44:25 PM] Ian Cheong: oh shit.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:29 PM] Ian Cheong: that's right.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:35 PM] drinternetphd: she reached out after to tell me and I started hyperventilating in a starbucks
[27/12/2014, 10:44:47 PM] drinternetphd: (cause I didn't know the team at all)
[27/12/2014, 10:45:09 PM] drinternetphd: games I am in that no one knows about: fez, they bleed pixels, jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:45:28 PM] drinternetphd: my illuminati shit rings true a little just because I have been nice to cool people for 3 yearas
[27/12/2014, 10:45:30 PM] drinternetphd: *years
[27/12/2014, 10:45:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm in Hellgate London.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:34 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[27/12/2014, 10:45:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup!
[27/12/2014, 10:45:39 PM] Ian Cheong: as a piece of armor.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: that rules
[27/12/2014, 10:46:00 PM] drinternetphd: I'm most of the voices of the women in jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:46:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Ian Cheong: I need to play that game.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:13 PM] drinternetphd: that's cause I am good at voice acting haha
[27/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't dedicate enough time to properly do it
[27/12/2014, 10:46:30 PM] Ian Cheong: I just knew Jim Sterling was in it.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: I like jim quite a lot.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:05 PM] drinternetphd: I like anyone that grows up and owns that
[27/12/2014, 10:47:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, he's great like that.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:17 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:47:29 PM] drinternetphd: everyone fucks up. there's not enough talk around the fact that fucking up is inevitable
[27/12/2014, 10:47:46 PM] drinternetphd: the "you fuck up once and you're banned forever" rhetoric in social justice pisses me off
[27/12/2014, 10:47:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup, no one's a saint, and part of growing up means making many mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] Rob: Agreed
[27/12/2014, 10:48:03 PM] drinternetphd: and that's what is so frustrating about gamergate
[27/12/2014, 10:48:10 PM] drinternetphd: I will never be allowed to make mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:18 PM] drinternetphd: I am not allowed to have character development
[27/12/2014, 10:48:25 PM] Ian Cheong: You are not allowed agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:28 PM] drinternetphd: I am denied a fundamental part of my humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:48:38 PM] drinternetphd: cause god, I am so far from perfect it's laughable
[27/12/2014, 10:48:54 PM] drinternetphd: the fact that Eron said in his shit that "I make people think I'm perfect and beyond criticism" is so insulting
[27/12/2014, 10:49:00 PM] drinternetphd: it's like, no, that's not me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that did not ring true to me at all.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:09 PM] drinternetphd: that's you and your weird purity standard you superimposed on me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:17 PM] drinternetphd: I've tried so hard to advocate for humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:49:18 PM] drinternetphd: and fucking up
[27/12/2014, 10:49:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It seemed like much of what he wrote was projection.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:26 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: he's a literal sociopath
[27/12/2014, 10:49:33 PM] Ian Cheong: He is.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:34 PM] drinternetphd: sociopaths tend to not fall in love
[27/12/2014, 10:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he fell in love with some weird idea of me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:59 PM] drinternetphd: ok
[27/12/2014, 10:50:05 PM] drinternetphd: say 100% of his post was true, which it isn't
[27/12/2014, 10:50:20 PM] drinternetphd: then at most, at it's basic facts, I'm accused of sleeping with people on tour.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:36 PM] drinternetphd: then owning up to it when called on it, and leaving.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Right.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:46 PM] drinternetphd: if I was a dude
[27/12/2014, 10:50:54 PM] drinternetphd: I don't think I even have to finish that statement
[27/12/2014, 10:50:58 PM] Ian Cheong: If you were a dude you would be forgiven by the masses in a heartbeat.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:08 PM] Ian Cheong: "Musicians do it all the time" they'd say.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: it is the last thing that is anyone's fucking business regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:51:43 PM] drinternetphd: the takeaway would be "maybe don't date her"
[27/12/2014, 10:51:44 PM] Rob: Pretty much.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I really don't know why it's such a big deal to people. Well, I have some ideas, but really, it's none of their business and they should feel ashamed for making it their business.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:59 PM] drinternetphd: which is fine. who I am currently with has known me better than him regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] drinternetphd: and I've not and never will give my side of things
[27/12/2014, 10:52:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you don't have to.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Ian Cheong: It's bullshit that anyone thinks to put you on the spot by forcing you to give a confession.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:45 PM] drinternetphd: just on principle I refuse to. I don't want the young girls I've taught how to make games to look at me and see me do that and take notes.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:55 PM] Rob: Even if everything in that post was true, the only person with any sort of public responsibility potentially would be NG if he had actually written a review.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:03 PM] drinternetphd: I think if you've cheated on people or not, that has nothing to do with your career
[27/12/2014, 10:53:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's denying you your agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:11 PM] Rob: This whole thing is fucking bullshit.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:14 PM] drinternetphd: see
[27/12/2014, 10:53:18 PM] drinternetphd: nathan and I were dating
[27/12/2014, 10:53:20 PM] drinternetphd: and told everyone
[27/12/2014, 10:53:28 PM] drinternetphd: and he specifically didn't cover my shit because of it.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:35 PM] drinternetphd: we had that conversation BEFORE we decided to date
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] drinternetphd: ironically.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Nathan's a great journalist. He's written for me a few times.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:49 PM] Rob: If a male game dev had done the exact same shit you were accused of, the response would have been HIGH FIVES
[27/12/2014, 10:53:52 PM] Rob: Right
[27/12/2014, 10:53:56 PM] drinternetphd: oh they have and they do.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:00 PM] Rob: Oh, I'm sure
[27/12/2014, 10:54:16 PM] Rob: It's disgusting.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It's double standards.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:24 PM] Ian Cheong: One for women and one for men.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:26 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Men get to keep a harem, if they want.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: women get to if you're a lesbian or trans because people already go "eww" and hate you anyway
[27/12/2014, 10:55:18 PM] drinternetphd: or you're already irrelevant for being a woman so who cares
[27/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Rob: I find it amusing that a lot of the people I know who are in gamergate now who are like 'ZOE'S A WHOOOOR' used to make fun of me for being a virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:55:34 PM] Rob: lolol double standards. fuck patriarchy.
[27/12/2014, 10:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: things I will never care about:
- other people fucking
-
[27/12/2014, 10:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: like to any degree
[27/12/2014, 10:55:53 PM] Rob: +1
[27/12/2014, 10:55:59 PM] drinternetphd: one of my closest friends is a 28 year old virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] drinternetphd: I've known him for like over a decade now
[27/12/2014, 10:56:25 PM] Rob: Yeah, I was that, basically. it was no one's business but my own. I'm not anymore, but w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: the only thing it effects for him, personally? WHEN PEOPLE ACT SHITTY CAUSE HE'S A VIRGIN
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why people make such a big deal about virginity, and at the same time shame people for having sex.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:59 PM] Rob: Like, w/e, I waited until I found someone I really liked and when I was mature enough and stable enough to have a relationship
[27/12/2014, 10:57:08 PM] drinternetphd: like I don't care if you haven't eaten a specific food. I don't care if you haven't been to a specific country. I don't care if you haven't seen a specific movie. why would I care if you have had sex or not
[27/12/2014, 10:57:17 PM] Rob: exactly
[27/12/2014, 10:57:28 PM] Rob: It literally does not affect me in any way whatsoever if someone else is having lots of sex or no sex or w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:57:35 PM] drinternetphd: I care that you're a good person who is healthy and happy and safe.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:43 PM] Rob: As long as it's consenting adults, have a blast or don't do anything, IDGAF
[27/12/2014, 10:57:47 PM] Ian Cheong: People make it their business because they want to assert control over your identity.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:48 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:57:56 PM] drinternetphd: it's the same people who police other people's pronouns
[27/12/2014, 10:58:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Correct.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:17 PM] drinternetphd: just give everyone a hyper basic level of humanity and respect
[27/12/2014, 10:58:20 PM] drinternetphd: it costs you nothing
[27/12/2014, 10:58:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Seriously. It's not that hard.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: like I got mad when people started going after cernovich cause of his skin condition and balls
[27/12/2014, 10:58:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah as far as I'm concerned, that's off limits.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:53 PM] drinternetphd: cause he is top 10 one of the worst people I've ever met
[27/12/2014, 10:58:56 PM] drinternetphd: but you don't do that to people, period
[27/12/2014, 10:59:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's like going after me because I'm Asian, you know?
[27/12/2014, 10:59:07 PM] drinternetphd: yea
[27/12/2014, 10:59:33 PM] Rob: It's far more satisfying to go after people for the shit they do, too, IMO
[27/12/2014, 10:59:41 PM] drinternetphd: it's more relevant and fixable too
[27/12/2014, 10:59:43 PM] Rob: yep
[27/12/2014, 10:59:44 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup.
[27/12/2014, 11:00:04 PM] drinternetphd: if you have control over something and you still choose to be an ass? if that effects me or humanity at large then we have beef
[27/12/2014, 11:00:13 PM] Rob: But even if you just want to be mean, it's far more fun to fuck with chuck c. Johnson shitting on the floor than insert whatever condition he may have
[27/12/2014, 11:00:23 PM] Rob: (assuming he has one, just for sake of argument)
[27/12/2014, 11:00:30 PM] drinternetphd: if you made a mistake or were thoughtless or it's not a pattern? Say you're sorry, don't let it happen again, and we are cool forever
[27/12/2014, 10:43:48 PM] drinternetphd: gone home was beautiful
[27/12/2014, 10:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: yknow I'm in that game right
[27/12/2014, 10:44:04 PM] Ian Cheong: You are???
[27/12/2014, 10:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: mhmm
[27/12/2014, 10:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: the final book in the pentagram room
[27/12/2014, 10:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: was written by "christine quinn"
[27/12/2014, 10:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: karla mashed christine and I together
[27/12/2014, 10:44:25 PM] Ian Cheong: oh shit.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:29 PM] Ian Cheong: that's right.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:35 PM] drinternetphd: she reached out after to tell me and I started hyperventilating in a starbucks
[27/12/2014, 10:44:47 PM] drinternetphd: (cause I didn't know the team at all)
[27/12/2014, 10:45:09 PM] drinternetphd: games I am in that no one knows about: fez, they bleed pixels, jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:45:28 PM] drinternetphd: my illuminati shit rings true a little just because I have been nice to cool people for 3 yearas
[27/12/2014, 10:45:30 PM] drinternetphd: *years
[27/12/2014, 10:45:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm in Hellgate London.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:34 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[27/12/2014, 10:45:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup!
[27/12/2014, 10:45:39 PM] Ian Cheong: as a piece of armor.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: that rules
[27/12/2014, 10:46:00 PM] drinternetphd: I'm most of the voices of the women in jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:46:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Ian Cheong: I need to play that game.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:13 PM] drinternetphd: that's cause I am good at voice acting haha
[27/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't dedicate enough time to properly do it
[27/12/2014, 10:46:30 PM] Ian Cheong: I just knew Jim Sterling was in it.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: I like jim quite a lot.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:05 PM] drinternetphd: I like anyone that grows up and owns that
[27/12/2014, 10:47:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, he's great like that.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:17 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:47:29 PM] drinternetphd: everyone fucks up. there's not enough talk around the fact that fucking up is inevitable
[27/12/2014, 10:47:46 PM] drinternetphd: the "you fuck up once and you're banned forever" rhetoric in social justice pisses me off
[27/12/2014, 10:47:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup, no one's a saint, and part of growing up means making many mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] Rob: Agreed
[27/12/2014, 10:48:03 PM] drinternetphd: and that's what is so frustrating about gamergate
[27/12/2014, 10:48:10 PM] drinternetphd: I will never be allowed to make mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:18 PM] drinternetphd: I am not allowed to have character development
[27/12/2014, 10:48:25 PM] Ian Cheong: You are not allowed agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:28 PM] drinternetphd: I am denied a fundamental part of my humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:48:38 PM] drinternetphd: cause god, I am so far from perfect it's laughable
[27/12/2014, 10:48:54 PM] drinternetphd: the fact that Eron said in his shit that "I make people think I'm perfect and beyond criticism" is so insulting
[27/12/2014, 10:49:00 PM] drinternetphd: it's like, no, that's not me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that did not ring true to me at all.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:09 PM] drinternetphd: that's you and your weird purity standard you superimposed on me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:17 PM] drinternetphd: I've tried so hard to advocate for humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:49:18 PM] drinternetphd: and fucking up
[27/12/2014, 10:49:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It seemed like much of what he wrote was projection.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:26 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: he's a literal sociopath
[27/12/2014, 10:49:33 PM] Ian Cheong: He is.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:34 PM] drinternetphd: sociopaths tend to not fall in love
[27/12/2014, 10:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he fell in love with some weird idea of me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:59 PM] drinternetphd: ok
[27/12/2014, 10:50:05 PM] drinternetphd: say 100% of his post was true, which it isn't
[27/12/2014, 10:50:20 PM] drinternetphd: then at most, at it's basic facts, I'm accused of sleeping with people on tour.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:36 PM] drinternetphd: then owning up to it when called on it, and leaving.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Right.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:46 PM] drinternetphd: if I was a dude
[27/12/2014, 10:50:54 PM] drinternetphd: I don't think I even have to finish that statement
[27/12/2014, 10:50:58 PM] Ian Cheong: If you were a dude you would be forgiven by the masses in a heartbeat.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:08 PM] Ian Cheong: "Musicians do it all the time" they'd say.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: it is the last thing that is anyone's fucking business regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:51:43 PM] drinternetphd: the takeaway would be "maybe don't date her"
[27/12/2014, 10:51:44 PM] Rob: Pretty much.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I really don't know why it's such a big deal to people. Well, I have some ideas, but really, it's none of their business and they should feel ashamed for making it their business.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:59 PM] drinternetphd: which is fine. who I am currently with has known me better than him regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] drinternetphd: and I've not and never will give my side of things
[27/12/2014, 10:52:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you don't have to.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Ian Cheong: It's bullshit that anyone thinks to put you on the spot by forcing you to give a confession.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:45 PM] drinternetphd: just on principle I refuse to. I don't want the young girls I've taught how to make games to look at me and see me do that and take notes.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:55 PM] Rob: Even if everything in that post was true, the only person with any sort of public responsibility potentially would be NG if he had actually written a review.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:03 PM] drinternetphd: I think if you've cheated on people or not, that has nothing to do with your career
[27/12/2014, 10:53:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's denying you your agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:11 PM] Rob: This whole thing is fucking bullshit.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:14 PM] drinternetphd: see
[27/12/2014, 10:53:18 PM] drinternetphd: nathan and I were dating
[27/12/2014, 10:53:20 PM] drinternetphd: and told everyone
[27/12/2014, 10:53:28 PM] drinternetphd: and he specifically didn't cover my shit because of it.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:35 PM] drinternetphd: we had that conversation BEFORE we decided to date
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] drinternetphd: ironically.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Nathan's a great journalist. He's written for me a few times.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:49 PM] Rob: If a male game dev had done the exact same shit you were accused of, the response would have been HIGH FIVES
[27/12/2014, 10:53:52 PM] Rob: Right
[27/12/2014, 10:53:56 PM] drinternetphd: oh they have and they do.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:00 PM] Rob: Oh, I'm sure
[27/12/2014, 10:54:16 PM] Rob: It's disgusting.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It's double standards.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:24 PM] Ian Cheong: One for women and one for men.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:26 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Men get to keep a harem, if they want.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: women get to if you're a lesbian or trans because people already go "eww" and hate you anyway
[27/12/2014, 10:55:18 PM] drinternetphd: or you're already irrelevant for being a woman so who cares
[27/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Rob: I find it amusing that a lot of the people I know who are in gamergate now who are like 'ZOE'S A WHOOOOR' used to make fun of me for being a virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:55:34 PM] Rob: lolol double standards. fuck patriarchy.
[27/12/2014, 10:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: things I will never care about:
- other people fucking
-
[27/12/2014, 10:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: like to any degree
[27/12/2014, 10:55:53 PM] Rob: +1
[27/12/2014, 10:55:59 PM] drinternetphd: one of my closest friends is a 28 year old virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] drinternetphd: I've known him for like over a decade now
[27/12/2014, 10:56:25 PM] Rob: Yeah, I was that, basically. it was no one's business but my own. I'm not anymore, but w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: the only thing it effects for him, personally? WHEN PEOPLE ACT SHITTY CAUSE HE'S A VIRGIN
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why people make such a big deal about virginity, and at the same time shame people for having sex.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:59 PM] Rob: Like, w/e, I waited until I found someone I really liked and when I was mature enough and stable enough to have a relationship
[27/12/2014, 10:57:08 PM] drinternetphd: like I don't care if you haven't eaten a specific food. I don't care if you haven't been to a specific country. I don't care if you haven't seen a specific movie. why would I care if you have had sex or not
[27/12/2014, 10:57:17 PM] Rob: exactly
[27/12/2014, 10:57:28 PM] Rob: It literally does not affect me in any way whatsoever if someone else is having lots of sex or no sex or w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:57:35 PM] drinternetphd: I care that you're a good person who is healthy and happy and safe.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:43 PM] Rob: As long as it's consenting adults, have a blast or don't do anything, IDGAF
[27/12/2014, 10:57:47 PM] Ian Cheong: People make it their business because they want to assert control over your identity.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:48 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:57:56 PM] drinternetphd: it's the same people who police other people's pronouns
[27/12/2014, 10:58:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Correct.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:17 PM] drinternetphd: just give everyone a hyper basic level of humanity and respect
[27/12/2014, 10:58:20 PM] drinternetphd: it costs you nothing
[27/12/2014, 10:58:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Seriously. It's not that hard.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: like I got mad when people started going after cernovich cause of his skin condition and balls
[27/12/2014, 10:58:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah as far as I'm concerned, that's off limits.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:53 PM] drinternetphd: cause he is top 10 one of the worst people I've ever met
[27/12/2014, 10:58:56 PM] drinternetphd: but you don't do that to people, period
[27/12/2014, 10:59:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's like going after me because I'm Asian, you know?
[27/12/2014, 10:59:07 PM] drinternetphd: yea
[27/12/2014, 10:59:33 PM] Rob: It's far more satisfying to go after people for the shit they do, too, IMO
[27/12/2014, 10:59:41 PM] drinternetphd: it's more relevant and fixable too
[27/12/2014, 10:59:43 PM] Rob: yep
[27/12/2014, 10:59:44 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup.
[27/12/2014, 11:00:04 PM] drinternetphd: if you have control over something and you still choose to be an ass? if that effects me or humanity at large then we have beef
[27/12/2014, 11:00:13 PM] Rob: But even if you just want to be mean, it's far more fun to fuck with chuck c. Johnson shitting on the floor than insert whatever condition he may have
[27/12/2014, 11:00:23 PM] Rob: (assuming he has one, just for sake of argument)
[27/12/2014, 11:00:30 PM] drinternetphd: if you made a mistake or were thoughtless or it's not a pattern? Say you're sorry, don't let it happen again, and we are cool forever
Chelsea also claimed to have dated a tranny. Chelsea also thinks everyone should Listen and Believe whatever a troon tells them. She also mentioned that she used to hate furries and was a "total shit" to them.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:40 PM] drinternetphd: it takes active effort on my part to remember gender is a thing to people
[27/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] Remy: I was raised by... the worst people.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:47 PM] Rob: I didn't really know anyone who was trans (at least, that I was aware of), so I never had the opportunity to say that sort of stuff, so I don't know if I would have.
[27/12/2014, 11:03:02 PM] drinternetphd: for me it changed when I started dating a transwoman
[27/12/2014, 11:04:58 PM] drinternetphd: I do think there's more grey in gender than society currently effectively allows for
[27/12/2014, 11:04:59 PM] Rob: Agreed w/ zoe, Stephen.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:12 PM] Rob: I do think English needs to standardize like... more pronouns.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:23 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I try and promote the use of "y'all" and "folks"
[27/12/2014, 11:07:35 PM] drinternetphd: one of the things I think a lot of trans phobes and their ilk don't realize is like
[27/12/2014, 11:07:44 PM] drinternetphd: you do 0 disservice to anyone by just fucking listening
[27/12/2014, 11:07:54 PM] drinternetphd: and believing that someone is more of an expert on themselves than you are
[27/12/2014, 11:07:59 PM] Rob: yep. listening is what changed my mind
[27/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] drinternetphd: and believing in people
[27/12/2014, 11:08:11 PM] Rob: and it takes like 0 effort to do
[27/12/2014, 11:08:13 PM] Ian Cheong: They try to uphold the status quo because it offers them power over marginalized individuals.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:15 PM] drinternetphd: like I used to be a total shit to furries
[27/12/2014, 11:08:20 PM] drinternetphd: but like
[27/12/2014, 11:08:23 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck does it matter
[27/12/2014, 11:08:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Same.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:27 PM] drinternetphd: (not to compare the two mind you)
[27/12/2014, 11:08:30 PM] Rob: That's what pisses me off, Ian.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:32 PM] drinternetphd: but what the absolute fuck does it matter
[27/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] Remy: I was raised by... the worst people.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:47 PM] Rob: I didn't really know anyone who was trans (at least, that I was aware of), so I never had the opportunity to say that sort of stuff, so I don't know if I would have.
[27/12/2014, 11:03:02 PM] drinternetphd: for me it changed when I started dating a transwoman
[27/12/2014, 11:04:58 PM] drinternetphd: I do think there's more grey in gender than society currently effectively allows for
[27/12/2014, 11:04:59 PM] Rob: Agreed w/ zoe, Stephen.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:12 PM] Rob: I do think English needs to standardize like... more pronouns.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:23 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I try and promote the use of "y'all" and "folks"
[27/12/2014, 11:07:35 PM] drinternetphd: one of the things I think a lot of trans phobes and their ilk don't realize is like
[27/12/2014, 11:07:44 PM] drinternetphd: you do 0 disservice to anyone by just fucking listening
[27/12/2014, 11:07:54 PM] drinternetphd: and believing that someone is more of an expert on themselves than you are
[27/12/2014, 11:07:59 PM] Rob: yep. listening is what changed my mind
[27/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] drinternetphd: and believing in people
[27/12/2014, 11:08:11 PM] Rob: and it takes like 0 effort to do
[27/12/2014, 11:08:13 PM] Ian Cheong: They try to uphold the status quo because it offers them power over marginalized individuals.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:15 PM] drinternetphd: like I used to be a total shit to furries
[27/12/2014, 11:08:20 PM] drinternetphd: but like
[27/12/2014, 11:08:23 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck does it matter
[27/12/2014, 11:08:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Same.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:27 PM] drinternetphd: (not to compare the two mind you)
[27/12/2014, 11:08:30 PM] Rob: That's what pisses me off, Ian.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:32 PM] drinternetphd: but what the absolute fuck does it matter
Chelsea also claimed to have either been on a police force or just had wanted to become an officer who "didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously."
[27/12/2014, 11:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: the same shit's been happening during the ferguson protests. a few of my black friends have reached out and been like "thank you for caring and being vocal"
[27/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Ian Cheong: I just want to shake them!
[27/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] drinternetphd: and I'm like
[27/12/2014, 11:12:38 PM] drinternetphd: NO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS BARE MINIMUM
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] Remy: ME TOO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:51 PM] drinternetphd: WHAT I AM DOING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] drinternetphd: CARING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Remy: I'm like "THIS IS SMALL POTATOS THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING TEAR GASSED AND SHOT AT"
[27/12/2014, 11:13:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you're just being a human being.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:05 PM] drinternetphd: OUR BARS SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN LESS THAN NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:13:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Empathy should be the base minimum for human behavior.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:13:15 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why sociopathy has become the base minimum on the internet.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so fucking uncomfortable and wrong for being praised at all for that
[27/12/2014, 11:13:27 PM] Remy: Although I feel like a dick
[27/12/2014, 11:13:32 PM] Ian Cheong: Maybe it's easy for people to distance themselves from these issues, and paint anyone with empathy as an SJW.
[27/12/2014, 11:14:06 PM] drinternetphd: I think it has to be at least partly a perspective thing
[27/12/2014, 11:14:12 PM] Remy: Because every now and then I will still get a RT on this one tweet I put out... basically like a couple weeks ago this one cop tweeted out shit like "If any of you feel like you can't breathe or your lives matter I'll be [at some place off duty] with my [firearm]"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: they probably don't know how shit looks like when you haven't been given so many advantages
[27/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] Remy: And I tweeted him like "Hey dude come threaten me with your gun. I wanna see if you scare me"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:34 PM] Remy: I was just mad
[27/12/2014, 11:14:41 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:14:47 PM] Remy: But people are still laughing and shit
[27/12/2014, 11:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: tbh that's why I didn't stick it out and pursue trying to be a detective like I wanted to
[27/12/2014, 11:14:56 PM] Ian Cheong: People fail to recognize their privilege.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:06 PM] drinternetphd: I couldn't be around those peoepl
[27/12/2014, 11:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: *people
[27/12/2014, 11:15:13 PM] Remy: When I first joined the army it was going to be as a stepping stone to become a detective
[27/12/2014, 11:15:26 PM] Remy: I wanted to pursue online crimes and sexual predators
[27/12/2014, 11:15:35 PM] Remy: But the Army took out all of my tolerance for the US government
[27/12/2014, 11:15:41 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to be someone on the force who didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously
[27/12/2014, 11:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: yeahhhh
[27/12/2014, 11:15:53 PM] Ian Cheong: We're all a bunch of idealists.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] Remy: So I went back to my childhood dream of being a storyteller/novelist
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] drinternetphd: working with other people in law enforcement did the same
[27/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Ian Cheong: I just want to shake them!
[27/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] drinternetphd: and I'm like
[27/12/2014, 11:12:38 PM] drinternetphd: NO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS BARE MINIMUM
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] Remy: ME TOO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:51 PM] drinternetphd: WHAT I AM DOING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] drinternetphd: CARING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Remy: I'm like "THIS IS SMALL POTATOS THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING TEAR GASSED AND SHOT AT"
[27/12/2014, 11:13:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you're just being a human being.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:05 PM] drinternetphd: OUR BARS SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN LESS THAN NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:13:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Empathy should be the base minimum for human behavior.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:13:15 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why sociopathy has become the base minimum on the internet.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so fucking uncomfortable and wrong for being praised at all for that
[27/12/2014, 11:13:27 PM] Remy: Although I feel like a dick
[27/12/2014, 11:13:32 PM] Ian Cheong: Maybe it's easy for people to distance themselves from these issues, and paint anyone with empathy as an SJW.
[27/12/2014, 11:14:06 PM] drinternetphd: I think it has to be at least partly a perspective thing
[27/12/2014, 11:14:12 PM] Remy: Because every now and then I will still get a RT on this one tweet I put out... basically like a couple weeks ago this one cop tweeted out shit like "If any of you feel like you can't breathe or your lives matter I'll be [at some place off duty] with my [firearm]"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: they probably don't know how shit looks like when you haven't been given so many advantages
[27/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] Remy: And I tweeted him like "Hey dude come threaten me with your gun. I wanna see if you scare me"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:34 PM] Remy: I was just mad
[27/12/2014, 11:14:41 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:14:47 PM] Remy: But people are still laughing and shit
[27/12/2014, 11:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: tbh that's why I didn't stick it out and pursue trying to be a detective like I wanted to
[27/12/2014, 11:14:56 PM] Ian Cheong: People fail to recognize their privilege.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:06 PM] drinternetphd: I couldn't be around those peoepl
[27/12/2014, 11:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: *people
[27/12/2014, 11:15:13 PM] Remy: When I first joined the army it was going to be as a stepping stone to become a detective
[27/12/2014, 11:15:26 PM] Remy: I wanted to pursue online crimes and sexual predators
[27/12/2014, 11:15:35 PM] Remy: But the Army took out all of my tolerance for the US government
[27/12/2014, 11:15:41 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to be someone on the force who didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously
[27/12/2014, 11:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: yeahhhh
[27/12/2014, 11:15:53 PM] Ian Cheong: We're all a bunch of idealists.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] Remy: So I went back to my childhood dream of being a storyteller/novelist
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] drinternetphd: working with other people in law enforcement did the same
Chelsea really fucking hates wizardchan.
[27/12/2014, 11:30:58 PM] Ian Cheong: William Usher wrote a new piece about 'ethics in game journalism'
[27/12/2014, 11:31:19 PM] Ian Cheong: And in it, he talks about how Wizardchan had its "reputation damaged" by improper reportage into their harassment of Zoe Quinn.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Like hello this is the same Wizardchan that spawned Elliot Rodger.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:56 PM] Remy: I get the feeling that's like Hitler claiming his reputation was damaged by The Producers
[27/12/2014, 11:32:07 PM] Remy: like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[27/12/2014, 11:32:10 PM] Remy: If you say so
[27/12/2014, 11:32:28 PM] drinternetphd: yo wizardchan can fuck off
[27/12/2014, 11:32:45 PM] drinternetphd: like the fact that what they'd done to me in december was in question because of an idiot's crazy ass conspiracy jpeg is moronic
[27/12/2014, 11:43:14 PM] drinternetphd: yo
[27/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] drinternetphd: considering I have had a spade of cool friends who are virgins with depression
[27/12/2014, 11:43:45 PM] drinternetphd: and don't say shit like "women can't be depressed they can just go in the middle of the road with their hole open and a man will solve their problems"
[27/12/2014, 11:43:50 PM] drinternetphd: that is p much verbatim btw
[27/12/2014, 11:43:56 PM] Ian Cheong: so fucking gross.
[27/12/2014, 11:44:04 PM] drinternetphd: fuck wizardchan for pretending they're the definitive voice on being a depressed virgin
[27/12/2014, 11:44:09 PM] Rob: SERIOUSLY.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:19 PM] Rob: Yeah, I got brutalized on YT for admitting to being a virgin.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:29 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because people still attack me for that even though I'm not anymore.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] Ian Cheong: That's fucked.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Rob: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] drinternetphd: it super sucks
[27/12/2014, 11:46:04 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because most of these people are MRAs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:11 PM] Rob: or MGTOWs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:21 PM] drinternetphd: yeah if you actually cared about mens rights you wouldn't be a fucking prick to male virgins
[27/12/2014, 11:46:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Clearly they do not give a shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:32 PM] Rob: Or male rape victims.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:38 PM] drinternetphd: you'd be pushing against the societal pressure that makes them feel shitty about it
[27/12/2014, 11:46:42 PM] drinternetphd: and not
[27/12/2014, 11:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: yknow
[27/12/2014, 11:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: making them feel shitty about it
[27/12/2014, 11:31:19 PM] Ian Cheong: And in it, he talks about how Wizardchan had its "reputation damaged" by improper reportage into their harassment of Zoe Quinn.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Like hello this is the same Wizardchan that spawned Elliot Rodger.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:56 PM] Remy: I get the feeling that's like Hitler claiming his reputation was damaged by The Producers
[27/12/2014, 11:32:07 PM] Remy: like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[27/12/2014, 11:32:10 PM] Remy: If you say so
[27/12/2014, 11:32:28 PM] drinternetphd: yo wizardchan can fuck off
[27/12/2014, 11:32:45 PM] drinternetphd: like the fact that what they'd done to me in december was in question because of an idiot's crazy ass conspiracy jpeg is moronic
[27/12/2014, 11:43:14 PM] drinternetphd: yo
[27/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] drinternetphd: considering I have had a spade of cool friends who are virgins with depression
[27/12/2014, 11:43:45 PM] drinternetphd: and don't say shit like "women can't be depressed they can just go in the middle of the road with their hole open and a man will solve their problems"
[27/12/2014, 11:43:50 PM] drinternetphd: that is p much verbatim btw
[27/12/2014, 11:43:56 PM] Ian Cheong: so fucking gross.
[27/12/2014, 11:44:04 PM] drinternetphd: fuck wizardchan for pretending they're the definitive voice on being a depressed virgin
[27/12/2014, 11:44:09 PM] Rob: SERIOUSLY.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:19 PM] Rob: Yeah, I got brutalized on YT for admitting to being a virgin.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:29 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because people still attack me for that even though I'm not anymore.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] Ian Cheong: That's fucked.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Rob: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] drinternetphd: it super sucks
[27/12/2014, 11:46:04 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because most of these people are MRAs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:11 PM] Rob: or MGTOWs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:21 PM] drinternetphd: yeah if you actually cared about mens rights you wouldn't be a fucking prick to male virgins
[27/12/2014, 11:46:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Clearly they do not give a shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:32 PM] Rob: Or male rape victims.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:38 PM] drinternetphd: you'd be pushing against the societal pressure that makes them feel shitty about it
[27/12/2014, 11:46:42 PM] drinternetphd: and not
[27/12/2014, 11:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: yknow
[27/12/2014, 11:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: making them feel shitty about it
Chelsea said she has a "Kill Bill" list and Eron is her 'Bill'.
[27/12/2014, 11:48:55 PM] Rob: My rape stuff is in an ED article about me
[27/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Rob: and Tf00t did that whole shit encouraging dogpiling of me. They'd definitely do the same to you, or worse.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:29 PM] drinternetphd: fucking ED
[27/12/2014, 11:49:40 PM] drinternetphd: that site needs to go
[27/12/2014, 11:49:48 PM] Rob: agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:49:50 PM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
[27/12/2014, 11:49:51 PM] Ian Cheong: It went offline once. Not sure where it's hosted now.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:53 PM] Peter Coffin: and agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:51:16 PM] drinternetphd: milo links to it in articles about me
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] drinternetphd: I think
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] Peter Coffin: shouldn’t that stop someone from being considered a journalist
[27/12/2014, 11:52:07 PM] drinternetphd: a large % of my life is going to be dedicated to my kill bill list
[27/12/2014, 11:52:19 PM] Peter Coffin: who is bill
[27/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: eron
[27/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Peter Coffin: out of the lot
[27/12/2014, 11:52:27 PM] Peter Coffin: ah
[27/12/2014, 11:52:35 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who started all this.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:36 PM] Remy: Yup
[27/12/2014, 11:52:38 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one I once loved
[27/12/2014, 11:52:43 PM] Ian Cheong: I saw a whole bunch of Repubs laughing at him
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] Rob: Ian, it's 100% true.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who tried to control me via pregnancy shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] drinternetphd: eron is my bill.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] Remy: Def's writing under pseudonyms after this one contest
[27/12/2014, 11:53:13 PM] Remy: They really fucked with the wrong cyborg
[27/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Rob: Even most conservatives I know consider breitbart to be a joke, and Milo to be the worst of the bunch
[27/12/2014, 11:53:26 PM] Peter Coffin: you know what is really weird, I don’t even think of him. Every time I have thought of him he had disgusted me in some way or another. I don’t know if that is weird, my brain avoids it. the story of him is so fucked
[27/12/2014, 11:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: I clawed my way out of a childhood of poverty and violence.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] drinternetphd: these people? ants, comparitively.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:54 PM] drinternetphd: the only difference is they came after me once I had found my happy ending.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] drinternetphd: they came after me once I actually had something to lose.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:16 PM] drinternetphd: and peter: most people are like that.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:20 PM] drinternetphd: eron deliberately distanced himself.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] drinternetphd: the story of what he's done to me is lost even though it's what gg is founded on.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:42 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I’m sorry about him. one time he started talking to me without me even saying literally anything about him
[27/12/2014, 11:54:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll never forget what he did to you.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I was like “noooooooooope"
[27/12/2014, 11:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: even though it contextualizes this fucking nightmare.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. he registered a twitter account purely to stalk my friends an I
[27/12/2014, 11:55:07 PM] drinternetphd: *and
[27/12/2014, 11:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: and effectively he's gotten away with it pre-restraining order.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:35 PM] Ian Cheong: He puts on a friendly face when interacting with people, as a sociopath often does, to make people think he isn't the monster that he truly is.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:45 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I think you’re right about that ian
[27/12/2014, 11:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: he convinced me.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: they can
[27/12/2014, 11:56:04 PM] drinternetphd: even though once it was too late I caught on
[27/12/2014, 11:56:12 PM] drinternetphd: asked him to his face, no judgement, if he might be a sociopath
[27/12/2014, 11:56:15 PM] drinternetphd: told me no, it was something else.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:17 PM] Ian Cheong: At least you caught on, some people never do.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: I thought I could love him regardless.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:36 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm sorry.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m sorry too zoe
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] drinternetphd: and deal with the isolation and weirdness and controlling issues that came with it.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] Peter Coffin: geez
[27/12/2014, 11:57:05 PM] drinternetphd: I thought love was bigger than that because of my own bullshit history of being raised in abusive situations
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] drinternetphd: and I think he knew that and used it, honestly.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Now he paints himself as an abuse survivor. That mother fucker.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:25 PM] Peter Coffin: he is gamer gate, if you think about it
[27/12/2014, 11:57:32 PM] drinternetphd: he is. and no one knows.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:36 PM] Peter Coffin: he is co-opting in the same way they are
[27/12/2014, 11:57:37 PM] Remy: So I guess the first name on the Bill List is GamerGate. Sink the ship that is bombarding you. And now that ship is forever tied to CP and we just need to get that story out there and gaining traction
[27/12/2014, 11:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: I get "five guys" messages constantly and no one knows my ex made it up to hurt me
[27/12/2014, 11:57:51 PM] Ian Cheong: I called out Eron's bullshit on Twitter when he was on a stream once and gators rallied to defend him on the stream and on Twitter like I was abusing an abuse victim.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:58 PM] drinternetphd: I hear that.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:01 PM] Ian Cheong: A woman literally yelled at me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:02 PM] drinternetphd: I listened to it in realtime.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:08 PM] drinternetphd: I have to record those things.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:10 PM] drinternetphd: for court.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, it's still on Youtube probably.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: to know what he's feeding these people about me. so I can prepare.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:36 PM] drinternetphd: I can't get away from him because he refuses to stop dogging me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:42 PM] Peter Coffin: are you still stuck with the same shitty magistrate
[27/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: likely.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:49 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:50 PM] Remy: There has to be a way to occupy his attention to get some heat off of you...
[27/12/2014, 11:59:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubtful. he has been single minded for 5 months
[27/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: Sure this means he's been neglecting something.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:17 PM] drinternetphd: even before that when I tried to leave him a bunch of times he wouldn't let me leave.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 PM] drinternetphd: he had nothing else.
[28/12/2014, 12:03:21 AM] drinternetphd: lol he didn't even bother deleting his blogs from when I kept trying to get away from him
[28/12/2014, 12:03:22 AM] drinternetphd: sent a file to this group:
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[28/12/2014, 12:03:35 AM] drinternetphd: [28/12/2014, 12:03:50 AM] Ian Cheong: "How many memes did I cause, anyway?"
[28/12/2014, 12:04:00 AM] drinternetphd: he's a monster and no one knows.
[28/12/2014, 12:05:02 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[28/12/2014, 12:05:42 AM] Ian Cheong: You have twice as many tabs open as I do.
[28/12/2014, 12:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: this is not my only window
[27/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Rob: and Tf00t did that whole shit encouraging dogpiling of me. They'd definitely do the same to you, or worse.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:29 PM] drinternetphd: fucking ED
[27/12/2014, 11:49:40 PM] drinternetphd: that site needs to go
[27/12/2014, 11:49:48 PM] Rob: agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:49:50 PM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
[27/12/2014, 11:49:51 PM] Ian Cheong: It went offline once. Not sure where it's hosted now.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:53 PM] Peter Coffin: and agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:51:16 PM] drinternetphd: milo links to it in articles about me
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] drinternetphd: I think
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] Peter Coffin: shouldn’t that stop someone from being considered a journalist
[27/12/2014, 11:52:07 PM] drinternetphd: a large % of my life is going to be dedicated to my kill bill list
[27/12/2014, 11:52:19 PM] Peter Coffin: who is bill
[27/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: eron
[27/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Peter Coffin: out of the lot
[27/12/2014, 11:52:27 PM] Peter Coffin: ah
[27/12/2014, 11:52:35 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who started all this.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:36 PM] Remy: Yup
[27/12/2014, 11:52:38 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one I once loved
[27/12/2014, 11:52:43 PM] Ian Cheong: I saw a whole bunch of Repubs laughing at him
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] Rob: Ian, it's 100% true.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who tried to control me via pregnancy shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] drinternetphd: eron is my bill.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] Remy: Def's writing under pseudonyms after this one contest
[27/12/2014, 11:53:13 PM] Remy: They really fucked with the wrong cyborg
[27/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Rob: Even most conservatives I know consider breitbart to be a joke, and Milo to be the worst of the bunch
[27/12/2014, 11:53:26 PM] Peter Coffin: you know what is really weird, I don’t even think of him. Every time I have thought of him he had disgusted me in some way or another. I don’t know if that is weird, my brain avoids it. the story of him is so fucked
[27/12/2014, 11:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: I clawed my way out of a childhood of poverty and violence.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] drinternetphd: these people? ants, comparitively.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:54 PM] drinternetphd: the only difference is they came after me once I had found my happy ending.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] drinternetphd: they came after me once I actually had something to lose.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:16 PM] drinternetphd: and peter: most people are like that.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:20 PM] drinternetphd: eron deliberately distanced himself.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] drinternetphd: the story of what he's done to me is lost even though it's what gg is founded on.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:42 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I’m sorry about him. one time he started talking to me without me even saying literally anything about him
[27/12/2014, 11:54:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll never forget what he did to you.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I was like “noooooooooope"
[27/12/2014, 11:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: even though it contextualizes this fucking nightmare.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. he registered a twitter account purely to stalk my friends an I
[27/12/2014, 11:55:07 PM] drinternetphd: *and
[27/12/2014, 11:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: and effectively he's gotten away with it pre-restraining order.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:35 PM] Ian Cheong: He puts on a friendly face when interacting with people, as a sociopath often does, to make people think he isn't the monster that he truly is.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:45 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I think you’re right about that ian
[27/12/2014, 11:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: he convinced me.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: they can
[27/12/2014, 11:56:04 PM] drinternetphd: even though once it was too late I caught on
[27/12/2014, 11:56:12 PM] drinternetphd: asked him to his face, no judgement, if he might be a sociopath
[27/12/2014, 11:56:15 PM] drinternetphd: told me no, it was something else.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:17 PM] Ian Cheong: At least you caught on, some people never do.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: I thought I could love him regardless.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:36 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm sorry.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m sorry too zoe
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] drinternetphd: and deal with the isolation and weirdness and controlling issues that came with it.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] Peter Coffin: geez
[27/12/2014, 11:57:05 PM] drinternetphd: I thought love was bigger than that because of my own bullshit history of being raised in abusive situations
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] drinternetphd: and I think he knew that and used it, honestly.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Now he paints himself as an abuse survivor. That mother fucker.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:25 PM] Peter Coffin: he is gamer gate, if you think about it
[27/12/2014, 11:57:32 PM] drinternetphd: he is. and no one knows.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:36 PM] Peter Coffin: he is co-opting in the same way they are
[27/12/2014, 11:57:37 PM] Remy: So I guess the first name on the Bill List is GamerGate. Sink the ship that is bombarding you. And now that ship is forever tied to CP and we just need to get that story out there and gaining traction
[27/12/2014, 11:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: I get "five guys" messages constantly and no one knows my ex made it up to hurt me
[27/12/2014, 11:57:51 PM] Ian Cheong: I called out Eron's bullshit on Twitter when he was on a stream once and gators rallied to defend him on the stream and on Twitter like I was abusing an abuse victim.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:58 PM] drinternetphd: I hear that.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:01 PM] Ian Cheong: A woman literally yelled at me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:02 PM] drinternetphd: I listened to it in realtime.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:08 PM] drinternetphd: I have to record those things.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:10 PM] drinternetphd: for court.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, it's still on Youtube probably.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: to know what he's feeding these people about me. so I can prepare.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:36 PM] drinternetphd: I can't get away from him because he refuses to stop dogging me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:42 PM] Peter Coffin: are you still stuck with the same shitty magistrate
[27/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: likely.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:49 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:50 PM] Remy: There has to be a way to occupy his attention to get some heat off of you...
[27/12/2014, 11:59:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubtful. he has been single minded for 5 months
[27/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: Sure this means he's been neglecting something.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:17 PM] drinternetphd: even before that when I tried to leave him a bunch of times he wouldn't let me leave.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 PM] drinternetphd: he had nothing else.
[28/12/2014, 12:03:21 AM] drinternetphd: lol he didn't even bother deleting his blogs from when I kept trying to get away from him
[28/12/2014, 12:03:22 AM] drinternetphd: sent a file to this group:
IMG_27122014_080304.png
[28/12/2014, 12:03:35 AM] drinternetphd: [28/12/2014, 12:03:50 AM] Ian Cheong: "How many memes did I cause, anyway?"
[28/12/2014, 12:04:00 AM] drinternetphd: he's a monster and no one knows.
[28/12/2014, 12:05:02 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[28/12/2014, 12:05:42 AM] Ian Cheong: You have twice as many tabs open as I do.
[28/12/2014, 12:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: this is not my only window
You may recall that in the days before Christmas Chelsea was sperging out hard about Patreon. Chelsea was worried because she believed she might be kicked off and wouldn't "have income" next month. On December 27th, Chelsea got the response from Patreon and was told they weren't taking action against her despite all the reports of what a shitbag she is. The staking of Cernovich and Hotwheels was also continuing.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: it'd be really nice if patreon would email me back at all
[27/12/2014, 2:24:56 AM] Ian Cheong: BTW, I notice that a lot of people refer to GGers by the names they use on their profiles, like "Eleanor Varrot". That's not a real name. That's a character from Valkyria Chronicles.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:59 AM] drinternetphd: and let me know if I have income or not next month
[27/12/2014, 2:26:42 AM] Peter Coffin: patreon is believing numbers/males over a harassed woman, thats how
[27/12/2014, 2:26:59 AM] Peter Coffin: or maybe isn't
[27/12/2014, 2:27:02 AM] Peter Coffin: but it seems like it right now
[27/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] drinternetphd: idk literally any fucking response right now would be nice
[27/12/2014, 2:27:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So frustrating to see them basically court Mike C and give him so much attention/validation
[27/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 2:27:38 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah
[27/12/2014, 2:27:51 AM] Peter Coffin: it proves they are at best clueless and I don't really want to say what at worst
[28/12/2014, 5:45:23 AM] drinternetphd: Patreon just cleared me. No action taken from cernovichs bs raid
[27/12/2014, 11:58:34 AM] Tesseract: well he also said he spent a shitload of money to win a rape case, is a fan of return of kings, and has said shit like "the better the sex the more it feels like rape"
[27/12/2014, 11:58:37 AM] Tesseract: so uh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:43 AM] Tesseract: preeeeeeeeeeeety fucking sure he's a rapist
[27/12/2014, 11:59:00 AM] drinternetphd: jesus christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus fucking christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's an early juicebro post on consent
[27/12/2014, 11:59:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2005/11/sexlaw_and_cons.html
[27/12/2014, 11:59:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's from 2005
[27/12/2014, 11:59:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Cern says women can't "not consent" for being passed out
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 AM] drinternetphd: I can't keep going down this particular rabbit hole right now so
[27/12/2014, 11:59:22 AM] drinternetphd: cause reasons
[27/12/2014, 11:59:39 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to go play pokemon and try to readjust
[28/12/2014, 5:45:47 AM] drinternetphd: Kluwe he did respond
[28/12/2014, 5:45:51 AM] Remy: Remy throws a :3 cat at Zoe
[28/12/2014, 5:45:52 AM] drinternetphd: But he deleted it
[28/12/2014, 5:45:56 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH
[28/12/2014, 5:45:58 AM] drinternetphd: But I screencapped it
[28/12/2014, 5:46:00 AM] drinternetphd: So
[28/12/2014, 5:49:22 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: http://i.gyazo.com/df66043cf9be9c2904b800654484d6d3.png
[28/12/2014, 5:49:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: "That's not yes or no question, as you know. Is a kawyer who draws up a contract for you still your lawyer? It depends."
[28/12/2014, 5:49:48 AM] Remy: oh wow
[28/12/2014, 5:49:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, saw that one
[28/12/2014, 5:50:01 AM] drinternetphd: this is the url if it helps https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547947529300480000
[28/12/2014, 5:50:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm trying to pin him down on representing hotwheels right now for the CP stuff
[28/12/2014, 5:50:13 AM] drinternetphd: ahh
[27/12/2014, 2:24:56 AM] Ian Cheong: BTW, I notice that a lot of people refer to GGers by the names they use on their profiles, like "Eleanor Varrot". That's not a real name. That's a character from Valkyria Chronicles.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:59 AM] drinternetphd: and let me know if I have income or not next month
[27/12/2014, 2:26:42 AM] Peter Coffin: patreon is believing numbers/males over a harassed woman, thats how
[27/12/2014, 2:26:59 AM] Peter Coffin: or maybe isn't
[27/12/2014, 2:27:02 AM] Peter Coffin: but it seems like it right now
[27/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] drinternetphd: idk literally any fucking response right now would be nice
[27/12/2014, 2:27:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So frustrating to see them basically court Mike C and give him so much attention/validation
[27/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 2:27:38 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah
[27/12/2014, 2:27:51 AM] Peter Coffin: it proves they are at best clueless and I don't really want to say what at worst
[28/12/2014, 5:45:23 AM] drinternetphd: Patreon just cleared me. No action taken from cernovichs bs raid
[27/12/2014, 11:58:34 AM] Tesseract: well he also said he spent a shitload of money to win a rape case, is a fan of return of kings, and has said shit like "the better the sex the more it feels like rape"
[27/12/2014, 11:58:37 AM] Tesseract: so uh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:43 AM] Tesseract: preeeeeeeeeeeety fucking sure he's a rapist
[27/12/2014, 11:59:00 AM] drinternetphd: jesus christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus fucking christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's an early juicebro post on consent
[27/12/2014, 11:59:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2005/11/sexlaw_and_cons.html
[27/12/2014, 11:59:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's from 2005
[27/12/2014, 11:59:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Cern says women can't "not consent" for being passed out
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 AM] drinternetphd: I can't keep going down this particular rabbit hole right now so
[27/12/2014, 11:59:22 AM] drinternetphd: cause reasons
[27/12/2014, 11:59:39 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to go play pokemon and try to readjust
[28/12/2014, 5:45:47 AM] drinternetphd: Kluwe he did respond
[28/12/2014, 5:45:51 AM] Remy: Remy throws a :3 cat at Zoe
[28/12/2014, 5:45:52 AM] drinternetphd: But he deleted it
[28/12/2014, 5:45:56 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH
[28/12/2014, 5:45:58 AM] drinternetphd: But I screencapped it
[28/12/2014, 5:46:00 AM] drinternetphd: So
[28/12/2014, 5:49:22 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: http://i.gyazo.com/df66043cf9be9c2904b800654484d6d3.png
[28/12/2014, 5:49:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: "That's not yes or no question, as you know. Is a kawyer who draws up a contract for you still your lawyer? It depends."
[28/12/2014, 5:49:48 AM] Remy: oh wow
[28/12/2014, 5:49:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, saw that one
[28/12/2014, 5:50:01 AM] drinternetphd: this is the url if it helps https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547947529300480000
[28/12/2014, 5:50:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm trying to pin him down on representing hotwheels right now for the CP stuff
[28/12/2014, 5:50:13 AM] drinternetphd: ahh
They wanted to get Hotwheels a "lifetime ban" from Patreon for being a "white nationalist." They also celebrated RogueStar being kicked off Patreon and chimped about Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Hotwheels outing himself as a hardline white nationalist is pretty great.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:30 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 5:52:31 AM] drinternetphd: where
[28/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] drinternetphd: cause that's a lifetime ban from patreon
[28/12/2014, 5:52:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the whole problem with this thing though, is that none of them can admit they may have made a mistake
[28/12/2014, 5:52:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: sec, i linked it earlier
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Remy: It's on his 8chan page
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Ian Cheong: http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
[28/12/2014, 5:52:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: some nice person in Ghazi found the 8chan thread
[28/12/2014, 5:52:52 AM] Ian Cheong: There.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun with that Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's honestly kind of sad. Seems that he is for Eugenics because he thinks it would have prevented his disability
[28/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] drinternetphd: submit that to their hello@patreon.com email
[28/12/2014, 5:53:33 AM] Ian Cheong: He's an idiot. It would have prevented his very existence.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:36 AM] drinternetphd: with a link to his patreon page
[28/12/2014, 5:53:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian, of course
[28/12/2014, 5:53:47 AM] Peter Coffin: exactly ian
[28/12/2014, 5:53:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's the archived thread
[28/12/2014, 5:53:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
[28/12/2014, 5:53:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: standard chan warning of stupidity
[28/12/2014, 5:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: thank you thank you thank you
[28/12/2014, 5:54:07 AM] Ian Cheong: let's all email PAtreon
[28/12/2014, 5:54:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm writing one up now
[28/12/2014, 5:54:19 AM] drinternetphd: don't
[28/12/2014, 5:54:29 AM] drinternetphd: maybe do it if they don't respond to the first thing
[28/12/2014, 5:54:34 AM] Ian Cheong: ahh yeah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] drinternetphd: but just one person send one email
[28/12/2014, 5:54:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok
[28/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] drinternetphd: I'm still a little jittery from all this so if someone else could take this I'd be greatful
[28/12/2014, 5:54:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, looking like we're brigading is bad juju
[28/12/2014, 5:55:01 AM] Ian Cheong: who wants to do it? I've already reported other people so i don't think they want to hear from me too much.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:09 AM] drinternetphd: but they're kind of leery of getting hit with massive outcry because that's what GG does
[28/12/2014, 5:55:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can do it, i've been pretty active about it on twitter today
[28/12/2014, 5:55:21 AM] Ian Cheong: great.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:22 AM] drinternetphd: thanks man
[28/12/2014, 5:58:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's what i wrote
[28/12/2014, 5:58:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: Hello, it has come to my attention that one of your Patreon members, Fredrick Brennan, aka Hotwheels (the owner of 8chan) has written an article for the Daily Stormer (a neo-Nazi site), and has expressed a wish to write more articles for that site. I believe that this violates the terms of services of Patreon, and hope that this information proves useful to your company in protecting its image.
Archived link of the entire thread here, Brennan is the moderator with the wheelchair symbol
https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
Screenshot here
http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
Thank you, and have a nice day!
-Chris
[28/12/2014, 5:58:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Looks good.
[28/12/2014, 5:58:36 AM] Athena Hollow: (y)
[28/12/2014, 5:58:42 AM] drinternetphd: very good.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: and sent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:09 AM] Peter Coffin: Excellent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Today really delivered.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: automated reply sent back, would imagine they won't get back to me for a couple hours or so
[28/12/2014, 5:59:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Indeed
[28/12/2014, 5:59:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, their automated reply image is great
[28/12/2014, 6:00:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I cannot with this today.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:14 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It has been five hours.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:18 AM] Ian Cheong: RogueStar's patreon is gone.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha
[28/12/2014, 6:00:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: but how will he finish his game?
[28/12/2014, 6:00:34 AM] Athena Hollow: They essentially implemented a "Rogue Rule" XD
[28/12/2014, 6:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:00:43 AM] Ian Cheong: Sorry Veerender.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fuck Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:02 AM] Remy: lol I leave my twitter for five minutes
[28/12/2014, 6:01:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: that guy's such a fucking douche
[28/12/2014, 6:02:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Well, Mundane Matt--made everyone attack me, since last night.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:43 AM] drinternetphd: : ( oh no you too?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have been dealing with garbage for five hours right now.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] drinternetphd: are you documenting all that?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero 5m5 minutes ago
@ChrisWarcraft @playdangerously Catching up on stuff. Is this the founder of 8chan talking about writing for the Daily Stormer? Not cool.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[28/12/2014, 6:03:16 AM] Ian Cheong: YES
[28/12/2014, 6:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: oh my~
[28/12/2014, 6:03:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/mundanematt/status/548712926853742592
[28/12/2014, 6:03:23 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It was from that.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:24 AM] Remy: wow nice
[28/12/2014, 6:03:27 AM] Remy: Sorry
[28/12/2014, 6:03:32 AM] Remy: I'm just shocked to hear that coming from Mil
[28/12/2014, 6:03:33 AM] Remy: Milo*
[28/12/2014, 6:03:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Zoe, he is bothering you, too?
[28/12/2014, 6:03:42 AM] Remy: lIke is Milo being the voice of reason today?
[28/12/2014, 6:04:05 AM] drinternetphd: veerender: he made the first accusations about me banging nathan for coverage
[28/12/2014, 6:05:08 AM] drinternetphd: veerender - if you screenshot all of the shit you have the gumption to from MundaneMatt, send it to patreon
[28/12/2014, 6:05:13 AM] drinternetphd: he is not allowed to do this
[28/12/2014, 5:52:30 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 5:52:31 AM] drinternetphd: where
[28/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] drinternetphd: cause that's a lifetime ban from patreon
[28/12/2014, 5:52:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the whole problem with this thing though, is that none of them can admit they may have made a mistake
[28/12/2014, 5:52:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: sec, i linked it earlier
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Remy: It's on his 8chan page
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Ian Cheong: http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
[28/12/2014, 5:52:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: some nice person in Ghazi found the 8chan thread
[28/12/2014, 5:52:52 AM] Ian Cheong: There.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun with that Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's honestly kind of sad. Seems that he is for Eugenics because he thinks it would have prevented his disability
[28/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] drinternetphd: submit that to their hello@patreon.com email
[28/12/2014, 5:53:33 AM] Ian Cheong: He's an idiot. It would have prevented his very existence.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:36 AM] drinternetphd: with a link to his patreon page
[28/12/2014, 5:53:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian, of course
[28/12/2014, 5:53:47 AM] Peter Coffin: exactly ian
[28/12/2014, 5:53:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's the archived thread
[28/12/2014, 5:53:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
[28/12/2014, 5:53:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: standard chan warning of stupidity
[28/12/2014, 5:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: thank you thank you thank you
[28/12/2014, 5:54:07 AM] Ian Cheong: let's all email PAtreon
[28/12/2014, 5:54:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm writing one up now
[28/12/2014, 5:54:19 AM] drinternetphd: don't
[28/12/2014, 5:54:29 AM] drinternetphd: maybe do it if they don't respond to the first thing
[28/12/2014, 5:54:34 AM] Ian Cheong: ahh yeah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] drinternetphd: but just one person send one email
[28/12/2014, 5:54:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok
[28/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] drinternetphd: I'm still a little jittery from all this so if someone else could take this I'd be greatful
[28/12/2014, 5:54:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, looking like we're brigading is bad juju
[28/12/2014, 5:55:01 AM] Ian Cheong: who wants to do it? I've already reported other people so i don't think they want to hear from me too much.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:09 AM] drinternetphd: but they're kind of leery of getting hit with massive outcry because that's what GG does
[28/12/2014, 5:55:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can do it, i've been pretty active about it on twitter today
[28/12/2014, 5:55:21 AM] Ian Cheong: great.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:22 AM] drinternetphd: thanks man
[28/12/2014, 5:58:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's what i wrote
[28/12/2014, 5:58:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: Hello, it has come to my attention that one of your Patreon members, Fredrick Brennan, aka Hotwheels (the owner of 8chan) has written an article for the Daily Stormer (a neo-Nazi site), and has expressed a wish to write more articles for that site. I believe that this violates the terms of services of Patreon, and hope that this information proves useful to your company in protecting its image.
Archived link of the entire thread here, Brennan is the moderator with the wheelchair symbol
https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
Screenshot here
http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
Thank you, and have a nice day!
-Chris
[28/12/2014, 5:58:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Looks good.
[28/12/2014, 5:58:36 AM] Athena Hollow: (y)
[28/12/2014, 5:58:42 AM] drinternetphd: very good.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: and sent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:09 AM] Peter Coffin: Excellent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Today really delivered.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: automated reply sent back, would imagine they won't get back to me for a couple hours or so
[28/12/2014, 5:59:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Indeed
[28/12/2014, 5:59:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, their automated reply image is great
[28/12/2014, 6:00:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I cannot with this today.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:14 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It has been five hours.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:18 AM] Ian Cheong: RogueStar's patreon is gone.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha
[28/12/2014, 6:00:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: but how will he finish his game?
[28/12/2014, 6:00:34 AM] Athena Hollow: They essentially implemented a "Rogue Rule" XD
[28/12/2014, 6:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:00:43 AM] Ian Cheong: Sorry Veerender.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fuck Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:02 AM] Remy: lol I leave my twitter for five minutes
[28/12/2014, 6:01:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: that guy's such a fucking douche
[28/12/2014, 6:02:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Well, Mundane Matt--made everyone attack me, since last night.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:43 AM] drinternetphd: : ( oh no you too?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have been dealing with garbage for five hours right now.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] drinternetphd: are you documenting all that?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero 5m5 minutes ago
@ChrisWarcraft @playdangerously Catching up on stuff. Is this the founder of 8chan talking about writing for the Daily Stormer? Not cool.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[28/12/2014, 6:03:16 AM] Ian Cheong: YES
[28/12/2014, 6:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: oh my~
[28/12/2014, 6:03:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/mundanematt/status/548712926853742592
[28/12/2014, 6:03:23 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It was from that.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:24 AM] Remy: wow nice
[28/12/2014, 6:03:27 AM] Remy: Sorry
[28/12/2014, 6:03:32 AM] Remy: I'm just shocked to hear that coming from Mil
[28/12/2014, 6:03:33 AM] Remy: Milo*
[28/12/2014, 6:03:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Zoe, he is bothering you, too?
[28/12/2014, 6:03:42 AM] Remy: lIke is Milo being the voice of reason today?
[28/12/2014, 6:04:05 AM] drinternetphd: veerender: he made the first accusations about me banging nathan for coverage
[28/12/2014, 6:05:08 AM] drinternetphd: veerender - if you screenshot all of the shit you have the gumption to from MundaneMatt, send it to patreon
[28/12/2014, 6:05:13 AM] drinternetphd: he is not allowed to do this
Chelsea bragged to her rat king that her 'agent' for the Five Guys: The Book could "eat" Milo's agent. Chelsea described the book as a "series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life" and that she would say "how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason" and try to "kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends."
[28/12/2014, 6:06:15 AM] drinternetphd: hahaha milo is gonna be pissed when he sees my agent can eat his agent
[28/12/2014, 6:06:31 AM] drinternetphd: when I announce the book I'm recreating his stupid photo
[28/12/2014, 6:06:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[28/12/2014, 6:07:00 AM] drinternetphd: also my agent? don't leak cause I am not sure when we're announcing but
[28/12/2014, 6:07:03 AM] drinternetphd: it's Ross-Yoon
[28/12/2014, 6:07:27 AM] Ian Cheong: That's awesome Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:07:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: and congrats zoe
[28/12/2014, 6:07:35 AM] Rob: Awesome, zoe!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:46 AM] drinternetphd: my agent only really represents pulitzer winners and nyt bestsellers
[28/12/2014, 6:07:52 AM] drinternetphd: she hasn't NOT sold a pitch ever
[28/12/2014, 6:07:56 AM] Athena Hollow: awesome!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:58 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder
[28/12/2014, 6:08:04 AM] drinternetphd: also she is fun to drink with and "gets" my approach to creativity
[28/12/2014, 6:08:06 AM] Peter Coffin: That's bad as Fuck
[28/12/2014, 6:08:08 AM] Ian Cheong: What if you won a Pulitzer.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:11 AM] drinternetphd: lol shut up
[28/12/2014, 6:08:18 AM] Ian Cheong: hehe
[28/12/2014, 6:08:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: hahaha, the gross parts of the internet would implode
[28/12/2014, 6:08:35 AM] Athena Hollow: MUST. MAKE. HAPPEN.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:08:46 AM] drinternetphd: the way I'm doing it makes it unlikely probably
[28/12/2014, 6:09:00 AM] Peter Coffin: How so
[28/12/2014, 6:09:02 AM] drinternetphd: my longform shit borrows super heavily from david sedaris, format-wise
[28/12/2014, 6:09:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
[28/12/2014, 6:09:26 AM] drinternetphd: so it'll be a series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life
[28/12/2014, 6:09:39 AM] drinternetphd: and how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason
[28/12/2014, 6:09:44 AM] Peter Coffin: That doesn't mean it can't win a Pulitzer. No pressure.
[28/12/2014, 6:09:48 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:49 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:53 AM] drinternetphd: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:55 AM] drinternetphd: fuck you guys
[28/12/2014, 6:09:59 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to dedicate the book to farts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] Ian Cheong: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] Ian Cheong: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:08 AM] drinternetphd: then it will never win anything
[28/12/2014, 6:10:12 AM] Athena Hollow: Kav will love it.
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Peter Coffin: Haha
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Remy: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:24 AM] Remy: I thought you were going to dedicated it to butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Yes she will
[28/12/2014, 6:10:28 AM] Remy: Not Sarah, just, y'know, butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:32 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 6:10:35 AM] drinternetphd: butts might be better
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Remy:
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:40 AM] drinternetphd: don't want fart to continue thinking it was a shoutout
[28/12/2014, 6:14:18 AM] Quinnae: Just catching up with all this.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:29 AM] Quinnae: From the way you described it, Zoe, I do think you have a best seller on your hands.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:43 AM] drinternetphd: aaaa idk
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] drinternetphd: the goal is like
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This could be the book that defines what it's like to live on the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:51 AM] drinternetphd: start out with some sweet internet stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:14:56 AM] drinternetphd: how it gave me pretty much everything I have
[28/12/2014, 6:15:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm playing Halo 4 right now. IDK why I get so scared over these kind of games with aliens and stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:15:14 AM] drinternetphd: try and kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends
[28/12/2014, 6:15:20 AM] Ian Cheong: I have the internet to thank for all that I have, too.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:26 AM] Athena Hollow: Same.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:27 AM] drinternetphd: start out in the shirt
[28/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: *shire
[28/12/2014, 6:15:35 AM] drinternetphd: lead them through mordor that is gamergate
[28/12/2014, 6:15:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:15:40 AM] Ian Cheong: Be they friends, professional success, or whatever. It's the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 9m 9 minutes ago
@The_TimelessOne @PlayDangerously @ChrisWarcraft @infinitechan Yes, fine. Can’t really avoid addressing this in the book now I’ve seen it.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:57 AM] drinternetphd: juxtaposing the small moments of GG so they feel like they're traveling through my story with me
[28/12/2014, 6:16:06 AM] drinternetphd: using selected anecdotes to make specific points about all this
[28/12/2014, 6:16:10 AM] SF: Dedicate it to Sonic with a really divisive comment that the community disagrees with so it goes viral.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:11 AM] Athena Hollow: Pretty much all of the people who are my friends, I met online, including my husband.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: omg
[28/12/2014, 6:16:18 AM] SF: Like say you like the American soundtrack to CD better.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: these arguments
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] drinternetphd: leading up to the judge telling me none of it mattered because internet
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:16:35 AM] drinternetphd: and probably wrapping up with the conversation I had with Anita before getting on a plane to come here
[28/12/2014, 6:16:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If I write an opinion piece for Time Magazine does that mean I agree with Time Magazine?"
[28/12/2014, 6:16:57 AM] drinternetphd: so basically get really friendly with the reader, completely crush their spirits, and then lead them back out of it with an eye for rebuilding and reform
[28/12/2014, 6:06:31 AM] drinternetphd: when I announce the book I'm recreating his stupid photo
[28/12/2014, 6:06:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[28/12/2014, 6:07:00 AM] drinternetphd: also my agent? don't leak cause I am not sure when we're announcing but
[28/12/2014, 6:07:03 AM] drinternetphd: it's Ross-Yoon
[28/12/2014, 6:07:27 AM] Ian Cheong: That's awesome Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:07:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: and congrats zoe
[28/12/2014, 6:07:35 AM] Rob: Awesome, zoe!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:46 AM] drinternetphd: my agent only really represents pulitzer winners and nyt bestsellers
[28/12/2014, 6:07:52 AM] drinternetphd: she hasn't NOT sold a pitch ever
[28/12/2014, 6:07:56 AM] Athena Hollow: awesome!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:58 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder
[28/12/2014, 6:08:04 AM] drinternetphd: also she is fun to drink with and "gets" my approach to creativity
[28/12/2014, 6:08:06 AM] Peter Coffin: That's bad as Fuck
[28/12/2014, 6:08:08 AM] Ian Cheong: What if you won a Pulitzer.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:11 AM] drinternetphd: lol shut up
[28/12/2014, 6:08:18 AM] Ian Cheong: hehe
[28/12/2014, 6:08:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: hahaha, the gross parts of the internet would implode
[28/12/2014, 6:08:35 AM] Athena Hollow: MUST. MAKE. HAPPEN.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:08:46 AM] drinternetphd: the way I'm doing it makes it unlikely probably
[28/12/2014, 6:09:00 AM] Peter Coffin: How so
[28/12/2014, 6:09:02 AM] drinternetphd: my longform shit borrows super heavily from david sedaris, format-wise
[28/12/2014, 6:09:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
[28/12/2014, 6:09:26 AM] drinternetphd: so it'll be a series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life
[28/12/2014, 6:09:39 AM] drinternetphd: and how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason
[28/12/2014, 6:09:44 AM] Peter Coffin: That doesn't mean it can't win a Pulitzer. No pressure.
[28/12/2014, 6:09:48 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:49 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:53 AM] drinternetphd: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:55 AM] drinternetphd: fuck you guys
[28/12/2014, 6:09:59 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to dedicate the book to farts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] Ian Cheong: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] Ian Cheong: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:08 AM] drinternetphd: then it will never win anything
[28/12/2014, 6:10:12 AM] Athena Hollow: Kav will love it.
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Peter Coffin: Haha
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Remy: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:24 AM] Remy: I thought you were going to dedicated it to butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Yes she will
[28/12/2014, 6:10:28 AM] Remy: Not Sarah, just, y'know, butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:32 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 6:10:35 AM] drinternetphd: butts might be better
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Remy:
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:40 AM] drinternetphd: don't want fart to continue thinking it was a shoutout
[28/12/2014, 6:14:18 AM] Quinnae: Just catching up with all this.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:29 AM] Quinnae: From the way you described it, Zoe, I do think you have a best seller on your hands.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:43 AM] drinternetphd: aaaa idk
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] drinternetphd: the goal is like
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This could be the book that defines what it's like to live on the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:51 AM] drinternetphd: start out with some sweet internet stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:14:56 AM] drinternetphd: how it gave me pretty much everything I have
[28/12/2014, 6:15:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm playing Halo 4 right now. IDK why I get so scared over these kind of games with aliens and stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:15:14 AM] drinternetphd: try and kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends
[28/12/2014, 6:15:20 AM] Ian Cheong: I have the internet to thank for all that I have, too.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:26 AM] Athena Hollow: Same.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:27 AM] drinternetphd: start out in the shirt
[28/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: *shire
[28/12/2014, 6:15:35 AM] drinternetphd: lead them through mordor that is gamergate
[28/12/2014, 6:15:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:15:40 AM] Ian Cheong: Be they friends, professional success, or whatever. It's the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 9m 9 minutes ago
@The_TimelessOne @PlayDangerously @ChrisWarcraft @infinitechan Yes, fine. Can’t really avoid addressing this in the book now I’ve seen it.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:57 AM] drinternetphd: juxtaposing the small moments of GG so they feel like they're traveling through my story with me
[28/12/2014, 6:16:06 AM] drinternetphd: using selected anecdotes to make specific points about all this
[28/12/2014, 6:16:10 AM] SF: Dedicate it to Sonic with a really divisive comment that the community disagrees with so it goes viral.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:11 AM] Athena Hollow: Pretty much all of the people who are my friends, I met online, including my husband.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: omg
[28/12/2014, 6:16:18 AM] SF: Like say you like the American soundtrack to CD better.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: these arguments
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] drinternetphd: leading up to the judge telling me none of it mattered because internet
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:16:35 AM] drinternetphd: and probably wrapping up with the conversation I had with Anita before getting on a plane to come here
[28/12/2014, 6:16:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If I write an opinion piece for Time Magazine does that mean I agree with Time Magazine?"
[28/12/2014, 6:16:57 AM] drinternetphd: so basically get really friendly with the reader, completely crush their spirits, and then lead them back out of it with an eye for rebuilding and reform
Chelsea said she once dated an "otakukin" and that she used to be an internet tough guy. She also joked about Sonic the Hedgehog being her "husbando" because of course a lolcow would have autismal connections to Sonic.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:26 AM] SF: I was lucky enough to fall in with people that believed they were literal werewolves or whatever. Same kind of teenage passion, but a significantly less sticky topic. I bet I could have fallen in with worse people and teen me wouldn't have understood the difference, just seen a fast track to identity-having.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:33 AM] drinternetphd: oh god
[28/12/2014, 6:21:38 AM] drinternetphd: I dated an otakukin once
[28/12/2014, 6:21:46 AM] drinternetphd: so I feel ya
[28/12/2014, 6:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, if half the shit i said on the old ream forum boards was still around
[28/12/2014, 6:22:07 AM] SF: Now I just want to fuck werewolves because I am a mature adult.
[28/12/2014, 6:22:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:22:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, it wasn't 8chan levels of degeneracy, but i went in the paint pretty hard
[28/12/2014, 6:22:57 AM] drinternetphd: i had a bad case of internet toughguy bullshit before I moved out of the small town I lived in
[28/12/2014, 6:23:08 AM] drinternetphd: sf: he thought he was sailor uranus reincarnated and I was sailor neptune
[28/12/2014, 6:23:20 AM] Athena Hollow: ....
[28/12/2014, 6:23:23 AM] Ian Cheong: So that's what an otakukin isl.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:25 AM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: everyone's gotta have a dream
[28/12/2014, 6:23:32 AM] drinternetphd: saw him years later (I was like 14 at the time) and kinda asked about it and he was like "yeah no I'm over that. I figured out I'm really Cloud."
[28/12/2014, 6:23:48 AM] drinternetphd: he is a manager at a best buy these days
[28/12/2014, 6:23:51 AM] SF: I wonder how many Shadow the Hedgehogs there are.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:54 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[28/12/2014, 6:23:55 AM] Remy: "otakukin"?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:00 AM] drinternetphd: yeah like otherkin
[28/12/2014, 6:24:01 AM] Peter Coffin: cloud is a manager at best buy?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Believe they are reincarnated anime style characters.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:08 AM] drinternetphd: but anime
[28/12/2014, 6:24:43 AM] drinternetphd: as long as we're all clear on one thing
[28/12/2014, 6:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey, hey, folks, I used to think I was a psychic vampire when I was like 14.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:48 AM] drinternetphd: sonic is my husband and not yours
[28/12/2014, 6:24:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:24:52 AM] SF: Whether you are or are not literally a particular anime character is IN MY HUMBLE OPINION not a social construct.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: (I am not being serious)
[28/12/2014, 6:25:04 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck off, sonic's mine.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:12 AM] drinternetphd: that's a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:15 AM] SF: You can have him. I'm over him. He's hurt me too many times.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:18 AM] drinternetphd: your sonic is a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:25:25 AM] drinternetphd: only my husbando is the real article
[28/12/2014, 6:21:33 AM] drinternetphd: oh god
[28/12/2014, 6:21:38 AM] drinternetphd: I dated an otakukin once
[28/12/2014, 6:21:46 AM] drinternetphd: so I feel ya
[28/12/2014, 6:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, if half the shit i said on the old ream forum boards was still around
[28/12/2014, 6:22:07 AM] SF: Now I just want to fuck werewolves because I am a mature adult.
[28/12/2014, 6:22:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:22:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, it wasn't 8chan levels of degeneracy, but i went in the paint pretty hard
[28/12/2014, 6:22:57 AM] drinternetphd: i had a bad case of internet toughguy bullshit before I moved out of the small town I lived in
[28/12/2014, 6:23:08 AM] drinternetphd: sf: he thought he was sailor uranus reincarnated and I was sailor neptune
[28/12/2014, 6:23:20 AM] Athena Hollow: ....
[28/12/2014, 6:23:23 AM] Ian Cheong: So that's what an otakukin isl.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:25 AM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: everyone's gotta have a dream
[28/12/2014, 6:23:32 AM] drinternetphd: saw him years later (I was like 14 at the time) and kinda asked about it and he was like "yeah no I'm over that. I figured out I'm really Cloud."
[28/12/2014, 6:23:48 AM] drinternetphd: he is a manager at a best buy these days
[28/12/2014, 6:23:51 AM] SF: I wonder how many Shadow the Hedgehogs there are.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:54 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[28/12/2014, 6:23:55 AM] Remy: "otakukin"?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:00 AM] drinternetphd: yeah like otherkin
[28/12/2014, 6:24:01 AM] Peter Coffin: cloud is a manager at best buy?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Believe they are reincarnated anime style characters.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:08 AM] drinternetphd: but anime
[28/12/2014, 6:24:43 AM] drinternetphd: as long as we're all clear on one thing
[28/12/2014, 6:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey, hey, folks, I used to think I was a psychic vampire when I was like 14.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:48 AM] drinternetphd: sonic is my husband and not yours
[28/12/2014, 6:24:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:24:52 AM] SF: Whether you are or are not literally a particular anime character is IN MY HUMBLE OPINION not a social construct.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: (I am not being serious)
[28/12/2014, 6:25:04 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck off, sonic's mine.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:12 AM] drinternetphd: that's a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:15 AM] SF: You can have him. I'm over him. He's hurt me too many times.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:18 AM] drinternetphd: your sonic is a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:25:25 AM] drinternetphd: only my husbando is the real article
Chelsea said she would get "horse porn" if holographic data storage tech went mainstream. Chelsea spent $120 for that chip that the Steam game code on it and she said she "jammed" it into herself. She also spent $100 on that magnet she had put in her finger.
28/12/2014, 6:26:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Once holographic data storage tech becomes mainstream you might be able to inject a terabyte of data into your hand, Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:29 AM] Peter Coffin: "hand" led
[28/12/2014, 6:26:37 AM] Remy: okay I finally broke down and Googled "waif"
[28/12/2014, 6:26:39 AM] SF: That storage sounds
[28/12/2014, 6:26:40 AM] SF: handy
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] drinternetphd: i am going to fill it with horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I just want a cure for whatever the fuck cold thing I have -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:26:45 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm waiting for augmented reality to really take off.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:47 AM] Remy: and no wonder I couldn't figure out what it means, it's not a real word
[28/12/2014, 6:26:48 AM] drinternetphd: a hand full of horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:29:17 AM] SF: They're going to use it for harvesting people's biometric data, mark my words.
[28/12/2014, 6:29:50 AM] drinternetphd: sf actually the lab I was part of pre-gamergate totalling my life was doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: we're already doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] drinternetphd: we're just a bunch of grinders but we've got a chip almost finished that will take longterm biodata and upload it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:11 AM] drinternetphd: yeah but this is with open hardware
[28/12/2014, 6:30:17 AM] drinternetphd: and with body mod practitioners
[28/12/2014, 6:30:26 AM] drinternetphd: so you don't need to have a ton of cash to get it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: a lot of people also don't understand we're already living in the panopticon, it's just not evenly distributed yet :p
[28/12/2014, 6:30:36 AM] drinternetphd: yeah see
[28/12/2014, 6:30:38 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep Chris.
[28/12/2014, 6:30:40 AM] drinternetphd: that's why I was part of my lab
[28/12/2014, 6:30:54 AM] drinternetphd: tired of this technoutopian vision where only rich people get to party
[28/12/2014, 6:31:04 AM] SF: Neat. I'm all for people taking control of their bodies like that. What scares me is places like Facebook doing it implicitly and on an opt-out model.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:09 AM] drinternetphd: yknow how much the chip in my hand cost? $120
[28/12/2014, 6:31:10 AM] Ian Cheong: I want to live in a world where everyone gets to have access to biotech.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: basically I want Iain Banks' Culture
[28/12/2014, 6:31:23 AM] drinternetphd: jammed it in there myself
[28/12/2014, 6:31:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: but human nature tends to push towards dystopia
[28/12/2014, 6:31:29 AM] Athena Hollow: We got a long time till that one. We don't even live in a world where everyone has access to healthcare yet -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:31:32 AM] drinternetphd: my magnetic implant was only $100
[28/12/2014, 6:26:29 AM] Peter Coffin: "hand" led
[28/12/2014, 6:26:37 AM] Remy: okay I finally broke down and Googled "waif"
[28/12/2014, 6:26:39 AM] SF: That storage sounds
[28/12/2014, 6:26:40 AM] SF: handy
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] drinternetphd: i am going to fill it with horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I just want a cure for whatever the fuck cold thing I have -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:26:45 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm waiting for augmented reality to really take off.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:47 AM] Remy: and no wonder I couldn't figure out what it means, it's not a real word
[28/12/2014, 6:26:48 AM] drinternetphd: a hand full of horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:29:17 AM] SF: They're going to use it for harvesting people's biometric data, mark my words.
[28/12/2014, 6:29:50 AM] drinternetphd: sf actually the lab I was part of pre-gamergate totalling my life was doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: we're already doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] drinternetphd: we're just a bunch of grinders but we've got a chip almost finished that will take longterm biodata and upload it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:11 AM] drinternetphd: yeah but this is with open hardware
[28/12/2014, 6:30:17 AM] drinternetphd: and with body mod practitioners
[28/12/2014, 6:30:26 AM] drinternetphd: so you don't need to have a ton of cash to get it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: a lot of people also don't understand we're already living in the panopticon, it's just not evenly distributed yet :p
[28/12/2014, 6:30:36 AM] drinternetphd: yeah see
[28/12/2014, 6:30:38 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep Chris.
[28/12/2014, 6:30:40 AM] drinternetphd: that's why I was part of my lab
[28/12/2014, 6:30:54 AM] drinternetphd: tired of this technoutopian vision where only rich people get to party
[28/12/2014, 6:31:04 AM] SF: Neat. I'm all for people taking control of their bodies like that. What scares me is places like Facebook doing it implicitly and on an opt-out model.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:09 AM] drinternetphd: yknow how much the chip in my hand cost? $120
[28/12/2014, 6:31:10 AM] Ian Cheong: I want to live in a world where everyone gets to have access to biotech.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: basically I want Iain Banks' Culture
[28/12/2014, 6:31:23 AM] drinternetphd: jammed it in there myself
[28/12/2014, 6:31:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: but human nature tends to push towards dystopia
[28/12/2014, 6:31:29 AM] Athena Hollow: We got a long time till that one. We don't even live in a world where everyone has access to healthcare yet -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:31:32 AM] drinternetphd: my magnetic implant was only $100
Chelsea named the "white house contact" she mentioned before, Mark DeLoura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_DeLoura
[28/12/2014, 7:48:21 AM] drinternetphd: mark deloura's my whitehouse contact dude - if he ever ends up reaching out to you too just fyi he's good people
[28/12/2014, 7:48:22 AM] Randi Harper: squeee
[28/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Remy: RANDI CRACKIN THE CODE OVER HERE
[28/12/2014, 7:48:29 AM] Randi Harper: gotcha.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:30 AM] Remy: (ninja)
[28/12/2014, 7:48:38 AM] Randi Harper: man this is going to be intense.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm sure they'd love to be able to use this to actively identify and track harassers
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] drinternetphd: he's on the white house subcomittee for tech and I know he's been pushing GG shit up there
[28/12/2014, 7:48:22 AM] Randi Harper: squeee
[28/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Remy: RANDI CRACKIN THE CODE OVER HERE
[28/12/2014, 7:48:29 AM] Randi Harper: gotcha.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:30 AM] Remy: (ninja)
[28/12/2014, 7:48:38 AM] Randi Harper: man this is going to be intense.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm sure they'd love to be able to use this to actively identify and track harassers
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] drinternetphd: he's on the white house subcomittee for tech and I know he's been pushing GG shit up there
This is about the end of the Chelsea content from the 4th Main Chat leak. We'll end it with this:
[28/12/2014, 7:52:07 AM] drinternetphd: internet should be a basic human right the way literacy should be
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Going back to the Skype logs and picking up with Main Chat 3 and 4. We start off with Chelsea and company plotting revenge and cyber stalking people on Christmas Day and go on a slosh through lolmilk that includes Alex Lifschitz's 3-step plan to destroy Gamergate and Chelsea briefly mentioning a "Kill Bill" list (with Eron Gjoni as her 'Bill').
The following was happening on Christmas Day 2014, as the timestamps from the logs should be around 16 hours ahead of where Chelsea was at the time (Seattle). Here we find most of the gang chimping and doing opposition research against Mike Cernovich and 8chan/Brennan on Christmas and planning on getting the media to signal boost their hit piece against 8chan.
[26/12/2014, 1:12:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: juicebro, down with the CP since 09!
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/05/criminalizing-comic-book-porn.html
[26/12/2014, 1:12:44 PM] Remy: Oh yeah KiA and GG are still trying to bail out the SS Child Porn
[26/12/2014, 1:12:59 PM] Remy: Uh oh did Chris find another gem?
[26/12/2014, 1:13:08 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's not a slam dunk
[26/12/2014, 1:13:15 PM] drinternetphd: ewwww
[26/12/2014, 1:13:18 PM] drinternetphd: ew ew ew ew ew
[26/12/2014, 1:13:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: but he definitely wants to protect the guy
[26/12/2014, 1:13:22 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck dude
[26/12/2014, 1:13:25 PM] Tesseract: wow what a fucking surprise
[26/12/2014, 1:13:31 PM] Tesseract: how is one person so shitty
[26/12/2014, 1:13:47 PM] Remy: He certainly seemed to think it would have been a great final paper
[26/12/2014, 1:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: god this makes me so fucking mad cause 5 fucking seconds of research and you see that drawn CP is so fucking often used to help actual molestors indoctrinate their victims
[26/12/2014, 1:13:53 PM] Remy: For his Constitutional Law course
[26/12/2014, 1:14:03 PM] Tesseract: does he just use a fucking dartboard with ways to be a shitty person written on it
[26/12/2014, 1:14:11 PM] Chris Kluwe: jiocebro? do research?! SURELY YOU JEST, MADAME
[26/12/2014, 1:14:13 PM] Remy: If only we could find a Constitutional Law professor willing to share a what I assume was a very skeevy final
[26/12/2014, 1:14:17 PM] Tesseract: "oh today I will defend CP"
[26/12/2014, 1:14:18 PM] drinternetphd: good point
[26/12/2014, 1:14:38 PM] drinternetphd: I should really talk to popehat more but I don't wanna bother him with this shit
[26/12/2014, 1:14:51 PM] Remy: I thought Popehat was three people?
[26/12/2014, 1:14:53 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, he was all "LOL NOPE" a couple days ago
[26/12/2014, 1:14:57 PM] Remy: Christian symbolism confuses me
[26/12/2014, 1:15:01 PM] Tesseract: haha
[26/12/2014, 1:15:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, I talk to most of them like, on a casual shooting the shit basis
[26/12/2014, 1:15:18 PM] Remy: lol Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:15:19 PM] drinternetphd: ken really dug Depression Quest so
[26/12/2014, 1:15:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have any major media outlets picked up on the 8chan & CP stuff?
[26/12/2014, 1:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, Ken doesn't like my "sensationalism" :p
[26/12/2014, 1:15:56 PM] Remy: I haven't pitched it to the folks I know at PBS newshour yet
[26/12/2014, 1:16:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: which is fine, you're allowed to not like the way i write things
[26/12/2014, 1:16:15 PM] Remy: B/C that relationship is really tenuous and I prefer to prove my value rather than appear clingy
[26/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Dan Olson: No, but it's starting to get in their ears. It's had enough hang time that they could grab it once the post-Christmas normal sets in
[26/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it is kind of christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:37 PM] drinternetphd: no one wants to write about child porn on christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha. True.
[26/12/2014, 1:16:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Merry Christmas, keep Baby Jesus away from Gaters. (sorry)
[26/12/2014, 1:16:59 PM] Dan Olson: which is basically what Lindsay was saying, too
[26/12/2014, 1:17:12 PM] Remy: What Zoe said
[26/12/2014, 1:17:16 PM] Remy: I actually was going to say
[26/12/2014, 1:17:30 PM] Remy: I pitched it to one of my journo friends and she basically said "I'm really trying not to touch that during the holidays"
[26/12/2014, 1:17:46 PM] Dan Olson: if this had been Jan 3rd or something like that then at least Vox/Slate/Jezzebel level outlets would have grabbed it hard right away
[26/12/2014, 1:18:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm fairly certain the MSM has an idea, i have quite a few people from msnbc, guardian, gawker, and other sites that jump on my feed on a daily basis
[26/12/2014, 1:18:45 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i've posted dan's piece along with "fuck these sick fucks"
[26/12/2014, 1:19:28 PM] drinternetphd: I'll reach out to the bbc/guardian after xmas
On Christmas, we also find Chelsea stalking Eron Gjoni and talking about how she's glad Liftshit is a Jew so she doesn't have to put on pants for Christmas.
[26/12/2014, 1:18:40 PM] drinternetphd: how the fuck did I not notice my ex was psychotic sooner [26/12/2014, 1:18:54 PM] Remy: The psychos are always the best at hiding it, Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:18:58 PM] Remy: Especially the sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:19:33 PM] Remy: Three things I am terrified of. Heights, the sound of a geiger counter, and sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: what I need is some fuckin sheer white cloth because I built a prototype of a scarf that has LEDs and a color sensor in it and the LEDs change to the color of whatever you put against it
[26/12/2014, 1:26:59 PM] drinternetphd: I am so glad I'm dating someone jewish and I won't get screamed at for not putting on pants during christmas and just ordering chinese food instead
[26/12/2014, 1:30:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seattle folks, did you hear that Chick-fil-a is opening in Bellevue?
[26/12/2014, 1:30:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: i also don't plan on broadcasting the debate to anyone outside ghazi
[26/12/2014, 1:30:18 PM] drinternetphd: fuck chick-fil-a
[26/12/2014, 1:30:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I've never had it. Probably gonna try it out
[26/12/2014, 1:30:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: cool
[26/12/2014, 1:30:41 PM] Remy: Aww nobody is open
[26/12/2014, 1:30:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and donate more than I spent to some charity that supports LGBT*
Chelsea's family used to refer to transmissions as "trannies," leading to confusion when Chelsea encountered troons later on.
[26/12/2014, 1:32:17 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's crazy how much you don't realize growing up that you take for granted
[26/12/2014, 1:32:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG & scientology both think psychology isn't science
[26/12/2014, 1:32:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so there's that
[26/12/2014, 1:32:37 PM] Chris Kluwe: GG and Scientology are perfect soul mates
[26/12/2014, 1:32:38 PM] drinternetphd: tell me about it
[26/12/2014, 1:32:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: they should exchange thetans
[26/12/2014, 1:32:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ~
[26/12/2014, 1:32:50 PM] Dan Olson: the Ideology Must Be Pure
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] drinternetphd: when I was a kid growing up in a harley shop, the slur for trans people meant "transmission"
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 1:32:58 PM] Remy: Adam Baldwin would have to hang out with Tom Cruise
[26/12/2014, 1:33:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Next month: TOM CRUISE COMES OUT IN SUPPORT OF GAMERGATE
[26/12/2014, 1:33:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: honestly, i'm surprised there haven't been more recruiting drives going on in KiA from various ne'er'do'wells other than the MRA crowd
[26/12/2014, 1:33:17 PM] drinternetphd: so when I left the small town where no one really knew trans people existed and found out that people were not being called transmissions with that slur it was really confusing
Chelsea was bitter because /pol/ had done a lot of speculation about whether she was a Jew. She also really hates Liana K. and claimed to have "talked with some of her former editors" and Liana is supposedly a "pretty huge misogynist".
[26/12/2014, 1:33:58 PM] Dan Olson: Most of the organized reactionary groups did some small recruiting then realized that GG is full of morons that resist all organization.
[26/12/2014, 1:34:08 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[26/12/2014, 1:34:15 PM] drinternetphd: ok ground zero before gamergate had a name
[26/12/2014, 1:34:20 PM] drinternetphd: half the shit was organized on/pol/
[26/12/2014, 1:34:31 PM] drinternetphd: there were so many threads dedicated to obsessing over if I was jewish or not
[26/12/2014, 1:35:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: retroactively funny thing- back when I was talking to Liana for my anonymous harassment story thing, she asked me not to mention anything about the anti-semetic stuff GG says
[26/12/2014, 1:35:49 PM] drinternetphd: fuck liana
[26/12/2014, 1:37:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this was back when she was still doing a PRETTY good job of coming off as legitimately clueless/"neutral"
[26/12/2014, 1:37:23 PM] drinternetphd: she was on the anti-anita bandwagon before it was cool too
[26/12/2014, 1:37:31 PM] drinternetphd: I've talked with some of her former editors
26/12/2014, 1:37:44 PM] drinternetphd: she apparently has been a pretty huge misogynist for years and years
Nicholas "Sarah Butts" Nyberg spent years talking about how he was a pedophile and supported pedophilia, among other things. Chelsea claimed she wants nothing to do with pedophiles, despite having Nyberg in her inner circle. Chelsea had bitched about it before, but she again mentioned how she "can't stand" Tumblr because some of them saw her as an abuser for what she did in the zoepost.
[26/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] drinternetphd: yo if there was a delicious food and pedos loved it pretty loudly I'd probably stop eating it
[26/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] drinternetphd: just in case
[26/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: along with "and burn it to the ground"
[26/12/2014, 1:38:41 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 1:38:49 PM] drinternetphd: pretty much any time my venn diagram circle gets near one of pedos I go screeching in the other direction
[26/12/2014, 1:43:07 PM] drinternetphd: I can't stand tumblr anymore cause of how many people have latched onto calling me an abuser
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, but this braintrust had pooled their money together on Christmas or Christmas Eve in order to buy an ad for Dan "Foldable Pedophile" Olson's 8chan hitpiece on reddit for le ebin trollin XD of the Gamergate subreddit. They were all also continuing to chimp over Mike Cernovich.
[26/12/2014, 2:13:00 PM] drinternetphd: omg we're laughing about the ad so hard
[26/12/2014, 2:13:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: hola
[26/12/2014, 2:13:02 PM] drinternetphd: alex just woke up
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] Chris Kluwe: this blog title is amazing
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/02/why-i-am-a-eugenicist.html
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] drinternetphd: yknow we were gonna watch mst3k but this pretty much seems like the same thing
Mercedes Carrera - a porn star who came out in support of Gamergate - was brought up and Chelsea thinks Mercedes is an "asshole". Chelsea also was sperging about something called AbleGamers and said she was arranging things behind the scenes to try to get a stream set up. It appears Mercedes/Gamergate had a donation drive going for AbleGamers and some anti-Gamergaters had chimped out and fucked it up.
[26/12/2014, 3:14:20 PM] Remy: So I've heard that a porn star has thrown their name into supporting GG for publicity
[26/12/2014, 3:14:24 PM] Remy: I wish them the best of luck
[26/12/2014, 3:14:26 PM] Peter Coffin: so ick
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Remy: In all their future stalkers
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] drinternetphd: mercedes carerra
[26/12/2014, 3:14:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that was a while back
[26/12/2014, 3:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and she is an asshole
[26/12/2014, 3:14:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, she's been there for a while
[26/12/2014, 3:14:43 PM] Remy: Oh
[26/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's obvious she's doing it to get money from them
[26/12/2014, 3:14:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: and they're too stupid to notice
[26/12/2014, 3:14:53 PM] Remy: I don't consume as much porn as I do video games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "threw lot in with GG" makes "asshole" a given
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: shes also been taking pot shots at me for having done porn which is just like
[26/12/2014, 3:14:59 PM] drinternetphd: excuse me while I lol to the moon
[26/12/2014, 3:15:09 PM] Remy: srsly?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:15:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: the best was when they tried to do that ablegamers thing
[26/12/2014, 3:15:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also why do all these scumbags have so much spendable cash?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: and she was like "I think i can make it happen, I just can't tell anyone it's for GG"
[26/12/2014, 3:15:30 PM] drinternetphd: actually, chris
[26/12/2014, 3:15:34 PM] Remy: SGG: Parents
[26/12/2014, 3:15:40 PM] drinternetphd: idk if you'd be down for this but you could potentially really help out
[26/12/2014, 3:15:41 PM] Dina : Peter ew
[26/12/2014, 3:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: sure, just lemme know
[26/12/2014, 3:15:50 PM] Remy: OH
[26/12/2014, 3:15:57 PM] drinternetphd: so like I've been quietly talking with ablegamers behind the scenes to try and organize a stream to make up for the shit they lost out on
[26/12/2014, 3:16:02 PM] Remy: SHE'S THE PORN STAR WHO TRIED TO HELP DECEIVE ABLEGAMERS?
[26/12/2014, 3:16:03 PM] drinternetphd: not a porn stream though
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: good plan
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: What a terrible person
[26/12/2014, 3:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: like a charity let's play stream
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Remy: OMG Zoe that's an awesome idea
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, cus i don't think my wife would approve :p
[26/12/2014, 3:16:24 PM] drinternetphd: like one that features work done by devs with disability or games with really good accessibility features
[26/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah, i'm totally down for that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:26 PM] Peter Coffin: nor would mine
[26/12/2014, 3:16:32 PM] Peter Coffin: I love the sound of that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:33 PM] drinternetphd: awesome awesome awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: I'll keep you in the loop then
[26/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they got hit super hard and got really disturbing death threats and shit
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Peter Coffin: chris every time I write your name I fucking say christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i actually did a lot of stuff for kids with Duchenne muscular dystrophy while i was in the league
[26/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i lot of them could really only interact through WoW and stuff like that
[26/12/2014, 3:17:20 PM] drinternetphd: and morale with them is kind of at an all time low which is fucking unacceptable because they do good work and their accesibility guidelines were followed closely when I was doing the DQ steam port
[26/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: so i definitely know where they're coming from
[26/12/2014, 3:17:24 PM] drinternetphd: yeah!
[26/12/2014, 3:17:26 PM] drinternetphd: ok cool
[26/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Dina : <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they are really feeling the pain on that one
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] Dina : ^my contribution
[26/12/2014, 3:17:38 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:39 PM] Peter Coffin: chris to the rescue. not christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Peter Coffin: chris
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Remy: This room is so awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] drinternetphd: so I was letting it be quiet and sort of doing stuff in the background while giving some time to cool down so GG doesn't hit it so hard when I finally launch it
[26/12/2014, 3:18:06 PM] drinternetphd: I got the desert bus streamers on board for helping with infrastructure too
[26/12/2014, 3:18:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: like i said, just lemme know and i'll do whatever i can
[26/12/2014, 3:18:23 PM] drinternetphd: awesome, thank you
[26/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Dan Olson: Oh, sweet, LRR are good folk. Graham's a sweetie.
[26/12/2014, 3:18:41 PM] drinternetphd: also fwiw I don't want to mention anything having to do with gamergate with this stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:18:47 PM] drinternetphd: obviously
[26/12/2014, 3:18:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:18:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's really not about that
[26/12/2014, 3:19:00 PM] drinternetphd: if anything I haven't given enough back to them for what they've done
[26/12/2014, 3:19:04 PM] drinternetphd: and I need to see to that
Chelsea powerleveled while chimping about JonTron and revealed she had intentionally sabotaged a 'game jam' reality TV show they were on.
26/12/2014, 3:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: the most humiliating moment in that game jam reality show we walked out on was that the guy who made nidhogg was one of the judges for the embarassing challenges they made us do
[26/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] drinternetphd: so i got to meet one of my heros while being forced to fingerpaint with jon tron's idiot ass in the background asking the british member of my team to say words that sounded funny with his accent
[26/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: Coming from the production side, that whole exposé filled me with cringe.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:31 PM] Peter Coffin: okay I have no idea what this reality show is but that sounds ridiculous
[26/12/2014, 3:35:35 PM] drinternetphd: oh god peter
[26/12/2014, 3:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: lemme link you
[26/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Dina : Jontron........
[26/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] drinternetphd: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/214364/Inside_the_disintegration_of_a_game_jam_reality_show.php
[26/12/2014, 3:36:45 PM] drinternetphd: I also wrote about it here http://gamasutra.com/blogs/ZoeQuinn...alking_Off_a_Reality_Show_About_Game_Jams.php
[26/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Peter Coffin: fuck maker studios
[26/12/2014, 3:37:13 PM] drinternetphd: also I contractually could not make fun of mountain dew for several months
[26/12/2014, 3:37:15 PM] Peter Coffin: seriously, I fucking hate them
[26/12/2014, 3:37:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I think everything about maker is disingenuous
[26/12/2014, 3:37:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I have watched it from the day it existed
[26/12/2014, 3:37:45 PM] Dina : I contractually can' talk about Gamergate I think
[26/12/2014, 3:37:48 PM] Dina : it's in Japanese
[26/12/2014, 3:37:52 PM] Dan Olson: How's Game Loading turning out? Anyone seen a current cut?
[26/12/2014, 3:37:57 PM] Dina : not gonna bother reviewing my contract
[26/12/2014, 3:38:05 PM] drinternetphd: when I finally could talk shit about mountain dew again this is what I did: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/488443912424398849
[26/12/2014, 3:38:11 PM] Peter Coffin: what about… mountain dew code red?
[26/12/2014, 3:38:33 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahah mountain poo
[26/12/2014, 3:38:39 PM] drinternetphd: I built it up with like 5 tweets too
[26/12/2014, 3:38:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, every time i had a sponsorship offer in the league, i made sure to tell them "If your product sucks, i'm gonna make fun of it"
[26/12/2014, 3:38:53 PM] drinternetphd: dude that was totally my plan going in
[26/12/2014, 3:38:55 PM] drinternetphd: so
[26/12/2014, 3:39:07 PM] drinternetphd: I did it cause I was the only woman they asked and because I'm a competitive shithead I wanted the only girl to win
[26/12/2014, 3:39:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:27 PM] Peter Coffin: stern but fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:31 PM] drinternetphd: and they clearly had no idea what they were doing or what jam games were so I was like "ok how can I game this system"
[26/12/2014, 3:39:36 PM] drinternetphd: "comedy. everyone gets comedy."
[26/12/2014, 3:39:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: except gators
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] drinternetphd: so I brought on davey wreden from the stanley parable and tom from surgeon simulator for my 2 people I could choose for my team
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] Peter Coffin: but then it turns out not everyone gets comedy
[26/12/2014, 3:39:55 PM] Chris Kluwe: ba dum tish
[26/12/2014, 3:40:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: eeeeesh
[26/12/2014, 3:40:10 PM] drinternetphd: with the arrangement that if it was a shitshow we openly mock it and troll the entire thing
[26/12/2014, 3:40:11 PM] Peter Coffin: haha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: people who don't get comedy are the worst
[26/12/2014, 3:40:23 PM] drinternetphd: we kept sneaking cans into shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:27 PM] drinternetphd: and deadeyeing the cameras
[26/12/2014, 3:40:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:40:30 PM] Peter Coffin: look back through my twitter image feed for that kind of fun
[26/12/2014, 3:40:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I kept switching glasses between shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: CONTINUITY
[26/12/2014, 3:40:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: NOOOOOOOOO
[26/12/2014, 3:40:47 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:48 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:51 PM] Peter Coffin: that is amazing zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] drinternetphd: and we were slowly holding mt dew cans and bringing them up closer to our faces constantly
[26/12/2014, 3:40:59 PM] Peter Coffin: oh my god I would laugh so hard
[26/12/2014, 3:41:01 PM] drinternetphd: till they screamed at us to stop
[26/12/2014, 3:41:04 PM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
[26/12/2014, 3:41:14 PM] Peter Coffin: that is comedy for comedy people though zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:41:16 PM] drinternetphd: davey jumped in with both feet and was constantly chugging till he got sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:21 PM] drinternetphd: like actually sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 3:41:31 PM] Chris Kluwe: this sounds like Tom goes to the Mayor or some shit
[26/12/2014, 3:41:32 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: I snuck into everyone's trailers and hid cans everywhere
[26/12/2014, 3:41:40 PM] Peter Coffin: I was just going to say this is tim and eric
[26/12/2014, 3:41:42 PM] drinternetphd: like in the toilets and under their pillows
[26/12/2014, 3:41:52 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that chris
[26/12/2014, 3:41:53 PM] drinternetphd: (this was before everyone else arrived cause I got there first)
[26/12/2014, 3:42:03 PM] Chris Kluwe: this could have been amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah but it went too far into "total shit" territory
[26/12/2014, 3:42:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, that just sounds amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: ahhh
[26/12/2014, 3:42:19 PM] drinternetphd: we weren't even scheduled to touch our computers till day 5
[26/12/2014, 3:42:20 PM] Remy: hold on I've been AFK lemme read and catch up if everyone is laughing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:24 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s maker doing a reality show
[26/12/2014, 3:42:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:42:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: a game jam
[26/12/2014, 3:42:32 PM] drinternetphd: also jontron was impossible to work with
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Peter Coffin: YOU CAN NOT HAVE A GOOD REALITY SHOW FROM MAKER
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no computers till day 5?
[26/12/2014, 3:42:42 PM] drinternetphd: he screamed at me on camera for like 5 minutes cause I asked if he needed help
[26/12/2014, 3:42:55 PM] Dina : wow
[26/12/2014, 3:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: and a lot of other shit I don't want to get into
[26/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Dina : what a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:43:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: sounds like a douche
[26/12/2014, 3:43:09 PM] drinternetphd: but he made it impossible for me to do anything cause he'd just shout over me
[26/12/2014, 3:43:10 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah he seems like a doucher
[26/12/2014, 3:43:18 PM] Dina : I had to politely email him for work and I cringed the whole way
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] Dina : well, his reps at Normal Boots
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] drinternetphd: and davey, tom, and I came up with our game seperately so when we were explaining shit to him he'd like
[26/12/2014, 3:43:32 PM] drinternetphd: hate everything I said
[26/12/2014, 3:43:36 PM] drinternetphd: but when one of them rephrased it he'd love it
[26/12/2014, 3:43:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: guhhhhhhhh
[26/12/2014, 3:43:47 PM] Peter Coffin: so he’s stupid too?
[26/12/2014, 3:43:49 PM] Peter Coffin: nice
[26/12/2014, 3:43:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "Here, let me put that into Manglish for you"
[26/12/2014, 3:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: and like be sucking their dicks over their games like a total brownoser
[26/12/2014, 3:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: during lunch I got an email from a fan that made me a little emotional
[26/12/2014, 3:44:14 PM] drinternetphd: it was this super sweet thing where they're like "your game saved my life" and stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:44:21 PM] Remy: AWWW ZOE YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MT DEW
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] drinternetphd: and I was talking with davey about it cause that just fucking gets me right in the heart
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] Remy: IT'S GAAAAAAAAMERR FUUUUUUEEEEELL
[26/12/2014, 3:44:39 PM] drinternetphd: and jontron just butts in and is like OH YEAH PEOPLE TELL ME THAT ALL THE TIME BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT
[26/12/2014, 3:44:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] drinternetphd: and we were all like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:48 PM] Chris Kluwe: why would you even say that
[26/12/2014, 3:44:53 PM] Tesseract: GAMER FOOD http://www.gamerfood.com/
[26/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Peter Coffin: your post on it is super interesting zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:45:17 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who worked at maker who was writing about all this as their embedded journalist was like "oh yeah he does that, we call it "jontronning out"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: "HEY I SEE YOU DID SOMETHING GOOD WELL LET ME JUST SHIT ALL OVER THAT GRNKK HNNGHH"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:24 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:45:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no one calls him on his shit?
[26/12/2014, 3:45:37 PM] Remy: So this Jon Tron guy sounds exactly as shitty as I dismissed him as upon first glance
[26/12/2014, 3:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he's just a worthless garbage infant and him tweeting out gangbang comics of me was hardly surprising
[26/12/2014, 3:45:53 PM] drinternetphd: chris: pretty much. big name let's players are allowed to do whatever they want
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
Chelsea also talked about wanting to sue TotalBiscuit but decided not to because he has cancer and she didn't "want to go after him financially."
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
[26/12/2014, 3:46:18 PM] Remy: Honestly I'm surprised you can't sue TB
[26/12/2014, 3:46:21 PM] Remy: He's British, right?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: you would be shocked at how many indies have told me during this whole thing they wish they could stand up about it but are afraid to cause they have power.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:28 PM] Remy: He'd have to prove that he HASN'T damaged you
[26/12/2014, 3:46:33 PM] Peter Coffin: TB lives in the US
[26/12/2014, 3:46:37 PM] Remy: Oh.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Dina : um wait what
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Remy: Well fuck me
[26/12/2014, 3:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not suing a dude with cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:44 PM] Dina : Zoe no
[26/12/2014, 3:46:48 PM] Remy: He has cancer?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] Dina : they have no power
[26/12/2014, 3:46:50 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
[26/12/2014, 3:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: really
[26/12/2014, 3:46:55 PM] Peter Coffin: he has fucking cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:47:02 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah no one could win that
[26/12/2014, 3:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: dina they have power because a lot of people think they do and are too afraid to do anything
[26/12/2014, 3:47:07 PM] Dina : wait so what? people with cancer can't be assholes?!
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] drinternetphd: no they can
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] Remy: I hate it when people with cancer are still shitty. The movies never show you that part
[26/12/2014, 3:47:13 PM] Tesseract: does he still have cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] drinternetphd: but they also have medical bills like crazy
[26/12/2014, 3:47:17 PM] Dina : this is the same bullshit as hey let old people be racist
[26/12/2014, 3:47:19 PM] Dina : fuck no
[26/12/2014, 3:47:21 PM] drinternetphd: no no no like
[26/12/2014, 3:47:26 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't want to go after him financially
[26/12/2014, 3:47:36 PM] Quinnae: That's very good of you, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I do agree, that is very admirable
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Dina : You're a better person than me Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Remy: Yeah I'm not gonna talk you outta that one Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:47:49 PM] drinternetphd: like, his family doesn't deserve that and the US medical care system is fucking broken
[26/12/2014, 3:47:58 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s also in public opinion, that’s not a winnable case
[26/12/2014, 3:48:08 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fck yes it is
[26/12/2014, 3:48:09 PM] Remy: But still what's his problem. Other than the cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:24 PM] drinternetphd: right which is why the way to push back is culturally
[26/12/2014, 3:48:26 PM] drinternetphd: not financially.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:30 PM] Remy: Must be affecting his judgement
[26/12/2014, 3:48:35 PM] Peter Coffin: completely agree
[26/12/2014, 3:48:36 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not saying he gets carte blanche at all.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:37 PM] Dina : he's a white male with entitlement issues who doesn't see race but sees people (tm)
[26/12/2014, 3:48:45 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] drinternetphd: but he should absolutely still be called out and have to defend his horseshit
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Peter Coffin: take me to church again
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i have no problem calling an asshole an asshole, even if he has cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:49:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, precisely.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:06 PM] Dina : same
[26/12/2014, 3:49:09 PM] Peter Coffin: samesies
[26/12/2014, 3:49:14 PM] drinternetphd: ugh I actually tried to talk to him privately about all this
[26/12/2014, 3:49:15 PM] Remy: I've already done that? So sure I'm already in this boat.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:19 PM] Dina : this is like the Hotwheels shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:20 PM] drinternetphd: he had a mutual friend reach out
[26/12/2014, 3:49:25 PM] Dina : "but he's disabled!!"
[26/12/2014, 3:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: like one I super respect and trust
[26/12/2014, 3:49:31 PM] Dina : but he's also an asshole.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:36 PM] Remy: Yeah I have no problem feeling like Hotwheels is a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he sent me an email and it was just more BS accusations and thinly veiled threats
[26/12/2014, 3:49:45 PM] Remy: Or whatever his name is
[26/12/2014, 3:50:05 PM] Dina : ugh Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: so I responded being like "Jon, thank you for reaching out, can we talk about this like two people in private trying to get on the same page"
[26/12/2014, 3:50:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Freed Brennan
[26/12/2014, 3:50:17 PM] drinternetphd: and like, trying to set the tone as conversational and sincere
[26/12/2014, 3:50:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Fred even
[26/12/2014, 3:50:29 PM] drinternetphd: and he sent back more fucking accusations including that idiotic "personal paypal" argument
[26/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] drinternetphd: so I just stopped responding.
[26/12/2014, 3:50:35 PM] Dina : NO POOPIHEAD GIRL U HAS COOTIES
[26/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I am very much in favor of using the real names of those who have them out there
Chelsea supposedly has a "white house contact" which she bitched about Gamergate/Cernovich/whatever to (He is named later on as Mark DeLoura). The Foldable Pedophile claims he found pedophile grooming books and Jake Alley aka SecretGamerGirl said he needed to talk to his therapist about the "snuff stuff" he's seen. Chelsea said her therapist doesn't know what to tell her when she comes sperging about Gamergate and supposedly found Chelsea's Wikipedia page which (despite being run by white knights like Ryulong with nothing negative allowed) allegedly caused the therapist to realize that everything Chelsea had been crying about was "really just that fucked up."
[26/12/2014, 3:55:40 PM] Dan Olson: When I was researching I found a bunch of stuff that I just couldn't put in the article as examples. I tried to make it remotely palatable and it was impossible.
[26/12/2014, 3:55:57 PM] Dan Olson: It wasn't, like, hardcore CP, but in a way it was almost worse
[26/12/2014, 3:56:06 PM] drinternetphd: dan I feel you. I had a similar experience when I was pulling shit together for patreon and my white house contact
[26/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Dan Olson: someone had written and illustrated this whole series of books written and styled like kids books, Dick and Jane style
[26/12/2014, 3:56:44 PM] Dan Olson: but the whole thing was grooming and pedo normalization
[26/12/2014, 3:56:47 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:57:01 PM] Peter Coffin: I believe it but I don’t want to
[26/12/2014, 3:57:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's part of a fucking horrible part of the human psyche, and sometimes all we can do is hope to be our best so that no one else goes down that hole
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've thankfully managed to generally avoid the child porn for the most part, but one of these days I really do need to break down in front of a therapist about the snuff stuff.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. that's like finding someone's murder tools.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:27 PM] Remy: oof
[26/12/2014, 3:57:31 PM] Remy: That's rough, SGG
[26/12/2014, 3:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: SGG: good luck mine is like "this is too fucked up and I don't know what to tell you sorry here's your adderall"
[26/12/2014, 3:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: well, at first she was like politely nodding but then I came back for a session and she was like "ok so I independently discovered gamergate" (cause I hadn't used the name of it)
[26/12/2014, 3:58:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: particularly the pet related stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: and she found my wikipedia page and was like "jesus fuck that's my client"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:12 PM] drinternetphd: and was like "I couldn't understand before and thought I was missing something but no things are really just that fucked up"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I went to therapy after the fake girlfriend shit and they literally did the whole bootstraps thing with me
[26/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Peter Coffin: and I was like “well fuck this"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: warning, that shit's realllllllllll gross
[26/12/2014, 4:00:24 PM] Peter Coffin: therapy almost pisses me off now, I wanted help. now it’s like “I paid some shithead to not do anything” and they literally were like someone who didn’t believe in medication
[26/12/2014, 4:00:28 PM] Peter Coffin: it pissed me off
[26/12/2014, 4:00:54 PM] drinternetphd: something I cut from Depression Quest: the shit slog of trying to find a therapist that works for you
[26/12/2014, 4:03:20 PM] drinternetphd: what I do is go to a clinic my limited state insurance covers, talk for like 5 minutes, get my adderal prescription (since they can't prescribe more than one month at a time so I have to go back for each renewal) and go get it filled
As if you weren't already aware, the anti-Gamergate rat king is full of the mentally ill. They also continued stalking Cernovich's past.
[26/12/2014, 4:04:01 PM] Peter Coffin: zoe that would be fine with me. I don’t want to fucking talk anymore
[26/12/2014, 4:04:10 PM] Peter Coffin: not to be combative
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I realized that sounded aggressie
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Dina : I believe that, Chris
[26/12/2014, 4:04:18 PM] drinternetphd: no I'm kinda the same
[26/12/2014, 4:04:19 PM] Remy: I just want something for my anxiety
[26/12/2014, 4:04:20 PM] Peter Coffin: aggressive
[26/12/2014, 4:04:23 PM] drinternetphd: talking stopped helping a long time ago
[26/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: And then I wanted to be screened for autism
[26/12/2014, 4:04:45 PM] Dina : and I'm sure none of these people are in Japan ahahahaha Mental stigma in Japan is horrifying
[26/12/2014, 4:04:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[26/12/2014, 4:04:55 PM] Dina : I'm surprised I haven't offed myself
[26/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry dina
[26/12/2014, 4:05:08 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who did JET said that any time he tried to get healthcare on that front they just told him to lose weight
[26/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Dan Olson: I'm aggressive with my Ativan. I just tell the doctor at the clinic what I'm there for, no faffing about talking about my anxiety hoping that they'll feel it merits something that strong.
[26/12/2014, 4:05:14 PM] drinternetphd: (he's not really that big)
[26/12/2014, 4:05:20 PM] Chris Kluwe: whoa. has juicebro ever mentioned being married?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:24 PM] drinternetphd: no?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:28 PM] Dina : Zoe yeah every year in the mandatory health check I was told I'm obese
[26/12/2014, 4:05:30 PM] drinternetphd: I know he says girlfriend a lot
[26/12/2014, 4:05:32 PM] drinternetphd:
[26/12/2014, 4:05:38 PM] Dina : yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Remy: I thought he was divorced?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: he must be
[26/12/2014, 4:05:52 PM] Chris Kluwe: this is from 2008
[26/12/2014, 4:05:53 PM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/12/why-you-should-send-thank-you-notes.html
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Peter Coffin: he has that “no one can handle me” vibe to him
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: and he references his spouse
[26/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Dina : good on her getting out
[26/12/2014, 4:06:16 PM] Peter Coffin: that “oh my god literally anyone would hate me” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:22 PM] Peter Coffin: that “I have raped people” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:28 PM] Remy: I swear he's mentioned being divorced before.
[26/12/2014, 4:06:32 PM] Dina : definitely the I have raped people vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:44 PM] Remy: I almost wanna say he's one of those douchebags that has to have a "Freedom Anniversary Party" on the day of his divorce
[26/12/2014, 4:06:51 PM] Remy: Y'know, to prove he's doing alright
[26/12/2014, 4:06:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "hey now that never went to trial"
[26/12/2014, 4:06:58 PM] Peter Coffin: I agree
[26/12/2014, 4:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that man is disgusting
[26/12/2014, 4:07:14 PM] drinternetphd: literally nothing redeeming
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there was a webcomic called Shredded Moose that made a comic about Blowy Zoe chomping on someone's dick. The creator of the comic had later tweeted at Brad Wardell and asked if Wardell was hiring, and was told to send in a resume if he was interested in working there. The two events were completely unrelated. On Christmas, the rat king was chimping about Wardell, and Lifshit said he wished they had "pocketed the Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory. (They had coordinated harassment of Wardell earlier in the month)
[26/12/2014, 4:12:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, it's already amazing that we got GG to bed down with Shredded Fucking Moose
[26/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I watched the movie today, thinking I was hate watching it, but laughed a few times. I can still pick it apart with a laundry list of horrible shit but it was less of a shit fest than I expected. that being said, being less of a shit fest is not a desirable thing
[26/12/2014, 4:12:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: i.e. literally the worst webcomic on the entire planet
[26/12/2014, 4:12:59 PM] Remy: Oh my god
[26/12/2014, 4:13:09 PM] Remy: And when Wardell offered him a job and then promptly died on that hill?
[26/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yyyyyyep
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] drinternetphd: wardell talked with my ex about it too.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] Remy: holy shit
[26/12/2014, 4:13:30 PM] drinternetphd: cause my ex can't not jump in and make this all about him
[26/12/2014, 4:13:32 PM] Peter Coffin: wardell seems like a fucking weirdo
[26/12/2014, 4:13:34 PM] Remy: I had zero doubt at that point that he was an eager contributor
[26/12/2014, 4:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: Yeah, I thought I'd bottomed out with crap like Chuggworth and Sexy Losers, but I hadn't heard of Shredded Moose before all this.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:39 PM] Remy: To the vitriol and abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:13:47 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Truth be told, I wish we had pocketed that Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory but that man is a garbage fire
[26/12/2014, 4:14:06 PM] Remy: I hope all of his employees have updated their resumes and sent them out
[26/12/2014, 4:14:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: You can't all go work at Stardock, chucklefucks.
[26/12/2014, 4:14:33 PM] Remy: I can't remember if I went through with it or not
[26/12/2014, 4:14:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Wait Zoe do you have bradwardell.jpeg handy
[26/12/2014, 4:14:46 PM] Remy: But I wanted to try and get Slade Villena hired at Stardock
[26/12/2014, 4:14:54 PM] Remy: Kind of like getting Jar Jar Binks hired at the Death Star?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:02 PM] drinternetphd: lol alex how did you know I was loding it up
[26/12/2014, 4:15:03 PM] Remy: Let the snake eat its own asshole somewhere else
[26/12/2014, 4:15:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: speaking of Slade
[26/12/2014, 4:15:24 PM] Dina : Are you guys sky ping each other from the same location?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: what do you think his reaction would be
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Dan Olson: "People need to be reporting this article, IMO. This is distributing blurred and easily exploitable images. Report it." MORE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE CSI IS A DOCUMENTARY!
[26/12/2014, 4:15:32 PM] Dina : cause that's cute as f
[26/12/2014, 4:15:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: if i linked him this?
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/10/why-im-not-in-t.html
[26/12/2014, 4:15:43 PM] drinternetphd: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2804kef&s=6#.VH97UItC1Po
[26/12/2014, 4:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: wardell.jpg
[26/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Remy: I have to read it first
[26/12/2014, 4:16:04 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 4:16:11 PM] drinternetphd: dina: maybe
[26/12/2014, 4:16:20 PM] Peter Coffin: slide might flip out
[26/12/2014, 4:16:25 PM] Peter Coffin: Slide Villain
[26/12/2014, 4:16:26 PM] Remy: We have to do that when we're ready to release that we know about these blogs
[26/12/2014, 4:16:32 PM] Remy: As soon as we go public with this
[26/12/2014, 4:16:38 PM] Remy: We HAVE to send this blog post to Villena
[26/12/2014, 4:16:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 4:16:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it'llbe so good
[26/12/2014, 4:16:56 PM] Dina : Next you're gonna tell me Alex is your known associate
[26/12/2014, 4:16:59 PM] drinternetphd: never
[26/12/2014, 4:17:10 PM] drinternetphd: never reveal the wutang secret
Chelsea went on a chimpout over Eron Gjoni supposedly planning a sequel to the zoepost, and was massively butthurt because people actually read the thing and believed Chelsea to be an abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:16 PM] drinternetphd: like people still believe my ex was an innocent victim of abuse and was shocked when 4chan "found" his post. even though I have the threads he was posting shit in and calling up hotels trying to find out if I had ever stayed there to give them more info.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:56 PM] drinternetphd: people partially still believe it because they don't like the one person who has debunked it
[26/12/2014, 4:20:00 PM] drinternetphd: and I can't do it without risking court issues
[26/12/2014, 4:20:06 PM] drinternetphd: even though I have proof of everything
[26/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Dina : fuck
[26/12/2014, 4:20:46 PM] Dan Olson: They don't want to disbelieve it, so they will, by definition, hate whoever debunks it.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:48 PM] Remy: Zero of that POS's actions have ever provided a scrap of humanity to inspect. I have looked just to entertain the most distant fucking notion and I have found zero reason to believe that he is not an obsessed abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:56 PM] Dina : how about a class action lawsuit from all the people they've hurt?
[26/12/2014, 4:21:16 PM] Dina : so that you're not alone in the line of fire
[26/12/2014, 4:21:19 PM] drinternetphd: like
[26/12/2014, 4:21:20 PM] drinternetphd: https://idledillettante.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/c0deebc4977b41163de1b0eac0e398f5.png
[26/12/2014, 4:21:39 PM] Dina : sigh
[26/12/2014, 4:21:47 PM] Dina : humanity levels depleting
[26/12/2014, 4:22:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m archiving all the links in the juicebro trello card
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] drinternetphd: and since he's working on a fucking sequel I'm like
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] Remy: nice
[26/12/2014, 4:22:19 PM] drinternetphd: kinda pissed no one seems to have gotten the truth out
[26/12/2014, 4:22:32 PM] Dina : uh sequel?
[26/12/2014, 4:22:34 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's gonna fucking suck to have a round 2 of horrific fucking public abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:22:36 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:22:47 PM] Remy: I was disappointed in the "middle-of-the-road" pandering so many journalists took
[26/12/2014, 4:23:05 PM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think we'll see that again
[26/12/2014, 4:23:12 PM] Chris Kluwe: now they know the shit that comes of it
[26/12/2014, 4:23:21 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i'll definitely be calling them out if they try
[26/12/2014, 4:23:31 PM] Remy: Every lukewarm article seemed to add another resinous layer of legitimacy to this awful hate mob
[26/12/2014, 4:23:49 PM] drinternetphd: like fuck I have the 4chan threads he was posting in
[26/12/2014, 4:23:52 PM] drinternetphd: the amas he did on reddit
[26/12/2014, 4:23:56 PM] drinternetphd: the ama he did in the chatroom
[26/12/2014, 4:24:13 PM] Remy: Everyone who wasn't panning it was a two-sided political debate was just throwing up their arms going "Computers? Must be a tech issue"
[26/12/2014, 4:24:15 PM] drinternetphd: and people still believe this "whoopsie abuse victim" shit because he struck first
[26/12/2014, 4:24:41 PM] Dina : uuugh
[26/12/2014, 4:24:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "I'm Mike Cernovich, and it's about ethics in linking to Gawker!"
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-e.html
[26/12/2014, 4:24:58 PM] drinternetphd: like using the fucking right keyword dismisses any observation
[26/12/2014, 4:25:03 PM] Dina : yeah I remember that awful one guy hitting me at the beginning of GG like "how does it feel to support a rapist and abuser?"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:20 PM] Dina : and I was like "I WOULDN'T KNOW SUCK MY DICK CONSENSUALLY"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:23 PM] drinternetphd: which was fucking planned in those threads
[26/12/2014, 4:26:01 PM] Dina : sorry I'm not witty when angry Zoe
[26/12/2014, 4:26:06 PM] Peter Coffin: all juicebro blog posts on trello have been archived
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] Quinnae: I've talked to a lot of people in feminist circles who are very frustrated that some loud "SJWs" have taken Eron at his word because he used the right codewords. It keys into a larger problem I and others have identified in activist communities, where language becomes more important than the thing it describes.
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] drinternetphd: no no it's fine I'm just so fucking angry and let down
[26/12/2014, 4:26:14 PM] Peter Coffin: chris are you adding them to trello or no
[26/12/2014, 4:26:16 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 4:26:17 PM] Dina : also I refused to read your ex's textual masturbation
[26/12/2014, 4:26:26 PM] drinternetphd: thank you...
[26/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] drinternetphd: god that's like the shittiest part of this for me
[26/12/2014, 4:26:57 PM] Dina : I'm really sorry he put you through hell. He should be rotting in jail. I'm so sorry.
[26/12/2014, 4:27:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I haven’t read it either, it just seemed perverse to do. also was way before I knew much about you. there was literally a time I was fighting against these people without even knowing what it was about
[26/12/2014, 4:27:06 PM] drinternetphd: like GG is horrific enough as is but for me particularly it's fucking domestic abuse because I finally cut him out of my life
Chelsea was "so fucking mad" that the hudge at the last Van Valkenburg vs. Gjoni court session had told her to stop sperging out over the internet, which Chelsea says is her "workplace."
[26/12/2014, 4:43:49 PM] drinternetphd: I'm still so fucking mad that the magistrate told me the harassment didn't count cause it was online
[26/12/2014, 4:44:02 PM] drinternetphd: and if I didn't want to get harassed I should get offline forever and switch careers
[26/12/2014, 4:44:06 PM] Dan Olson: I would be livid at that, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: that's something the legal system really needs to get into gear and address
[26/12/2014, 4:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:14 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that makes me mad too. I can’t believe someone said that to you
[26/12/2014, 4:44:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: because the internet isn't going away anytime soon
[26/12/2014, 4:44:19 PM] drinternetphd: nope
[26/12/2014, 4:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: and it's my fucking workplace
[26/12/2014, 4:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: "get a new career" should not be fucking advice
Here we have sociopath Awex Lifshit describing his 3-step plan to take down Gamergate, with Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopolous named as their primary targets along with 8chan.
[27/12/2014, 2:09:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: As far as the article goes, I'm curious to see if anyone picks it up before anything is said about it. Certainly not an extinction event.
[27/12/2014, 2:11:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: But, if you want to well and truly make it near impossible for them to operate, you gotta
1. Take GG's breeding grounds offline (principally 8chan)
2. Give proverbial black eyes to key figureheads in ways that prevent them from exerting power and
3. Get the entities whose silence enabled GG to finally take a stand.
[27/12/2014, 2:12:08 AM] drinternetphd: that's kind of what we've been working for
[27/12/2014, 2:12:42 AM] drinternetphd: at least now that things are less survival mode (though still fairly in that territory)
[27/12/2014, 2:13:38 AM] Athena Hollow: definitely.
[27/12/2014, 2:15:19 AM] drinternetphd: salt the earth
[27/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It looks more and more like we actually stand a shot at number 1 if Dan's article gets picked up by anyone, but we have to hope it remains evergreen as the holidays wind down.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Number two, well, there are a few key players but plans for each of them.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Three, well, that's longer term.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Ian Cheong: Does number two involve grabbing RogueStar by the scruff of his neck and rubbing his nose in shit?
[27/12/2014, 2:18:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It may involve the FBI paying him a visit (being hopeful here)
[27/12/2014, 2:19:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Roguestar is thoroughly fucked, as is PressFart, both shadows of their former presence and a joke even by GG's standards these days.
[27/12/2014, 2:19:34 AM] Peter Coffin: I played Rogue's demo today
[27/12/2014, 2:19:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Big players in my mind are Cernovich and Milo, both of whom we have vague directions for.
Chelsea also chimped out about TotalBiscuit, again, because he said something negative about Twine once and Chelsea thought she might "take a swing" at him next time she saw him.
[27/12/2014, 9:34:43 PM] Rob: time to scan total biscuit's twitter for stuff to make fun of, because I'm in a mean mood
[27/12/2014, 9:36:03 PM] drinternetphd: I wish I didn't have standards sometimes
[27/12/2014, 9:36:14 PM] drinternetphd: else I would post our email convo
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] drinternetphd: I hate how so many of my friends want to speak out against him but are afraid to
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] Rob: And I'm like "Then why don';t you get the fuck out and go back there?"
[27/12/2014, 9:41:32 PM] drinternetphd: also fuck him for shitting on twine
[27/12/2014, 9:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: fuck him fuck him fuck him
[27/12/2014, 9:41:42 PM] Remy: TB talking about US probably sounds just like American bros talking about Britain. fart sounds
[27/12/2014, 9:41:46 PM] Remy: lol
[27/12/2014, 9:41:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I hate what he said about Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:41:57 PM] Rob: Oh, but see zoe, what he REALLY meant was that greedo shot first and midichlorians are what gives youtube reviewers like him their special powers
[27/12/2014, 9:42:05 PM] drinternetphd: the amount of good twine has done for people makes me worry that the next time I see him I will take a swing
[27/12/2014, 9:42:08 PM] Remy: Of course he can shit on Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:42:11 PM] Remy: He doesn't make anything
[27/12/2014, 9:42:15 PM] Remy: He just has opinions
[27/12/2014, 9:42:22 PM] drinternetphd: I wish this was pre gamergate
[27/12/2014, 9:42:27 PM] drinternetphd: cause I can't say what I want to
[27/12/2014, 9:42:29 PM] Rob: I kind of want to go to MAG since it's near where I live, but I don't think anyone I'd want to meet would go there
[27/12/2014, 9:42:33 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to tweet like
[27/12/2014, 9:42:47 PM] drinternetphd: "if you marginalize a game engine over a stupid grudge with a woman you've never met maybe shut up forever"
[27/12/2014, 9:42:48 PM] drinternetphd: or
[27/12/2014, 9:43:03 PM] drinternetphd: rephrase what he said to me when he first shat the bed and came after me in august
[27/12/2014, 9:43:10 PM] drinternetphd: "you didn't seem to have a problem with it when you were promoting my game"
[27/12/2014, 9:43:20 PM] Rob: HAHAHAH
[27/12/2014, 9:43:33 PM] Rob: Zoe, if you want, if he shittalks twine again
[27/12/2014, 9:43:36 PM] Rob: I could say something like that.
[27/12/2014, 9:43:43 PM] drinternetphd: yeah go nuts I don't fucking care
[27/12/2014, 9:43:45 PM] Rob: "You didn't seem to have a problem with Twine when you were promoting Twine games."
[27/12/2014, 9:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: I can't do it cause my beef bandwidth is maxed
[27/12/2014, 9:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: tho he will likely respond with some variation of calling me a bitch so w/e
[27/12/2014, 9:44:11 PM] Rob: Yeah I don't want to direct more hate your way even by proxy
[27/12/2014, 9:44:25 PM] drinternetphd: fucking youtube
[27/12/2014, 9:44:28 PM] Rob: I can just keep attacking him in general. I find it funny b/c his fans randomly find it and start tagging him in to try to intimidate me.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: making mountains out of molehills just with people
[27/12/2014, 9:44:46 PM] Rob: I need to start making more videos again
[27/12/2014, 9:44:48 PM] Ian Cheong: It's a shitshow.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:52 PM] Rob: Since YT is basically gamergate dominated
[27/12/2014, 9:45:07 PM] Rob: And I feel bad leaving Zennistrad out there all by his lonesome.
[27/12/2014, 9:45:17 PM] Rob: I may turn a small paper I did on gamergate into the basis for a script.
[27/12/2014, 9:47:39 PM] drinternetphd: what's a good synonym for "mob"
[27/12/2014, 9:47:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Hmmm
[27/12/2014, 9:47:48 PM] drinternetphd: yt isn't gg dominated
Chelsea was writhing something for BoingBoing which meant it "counts like a lot" according to Chelsea. Chelsea planned to include the Foldable Pedo's article and the Southern Poverty Law Center's 'Hatewatch.'
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] drinternetphd: I only touch on gg to make a point about the culture at large but I like having a lot of synonyms
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] Remy: host* not hose BTW
[27/12/2014, 9:51:05 PM] drinternetphd: I don't like repeating words
[27/12/2014, 9:51:15 PM] Remy: I don't know if Skype or Apple hates me, but fuck both of them without lube
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: super rough thing I read once and haven't done a thing about
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: Over the last few months, the struggle for the culture surrounding the production and enjoyment of video games that has been bubbling under the surface for years has seemingly come to a head. For the uninitiated, an online mob so bad it has been followed as a hate group has been raging against progressive voices in the industry hiding behind the dogwhistle politic of “ethics in games journalism”. I’ve watched it do so firsthand as the horde made me their Franz Ferdinand of their culture war. All of the abuse, conservative grandstanding, and defense of child pornography aside, one of the more unfortunate elements of this whole debacule has been that they’ve been able to sweep up otherwise well-meaning, functional people with a salient point: there are massive problems within the games industry, but none of them are being addressed by the throng of screaming 4channers.
[27/12/2014, 9:52:05 PM] drinternetphd: god I forgot how much beer helps me write I am like a fucking drunken monk but with living instead of fighting
[27/12/2014, 9:52:39 PM] drinternetphd: paragraph 2 is touching on some of the issues that have arisen as a result of a bloated and garbage mainstream games industry
[27/12/2014, 9:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: and then paragraph 3 starts drawing comparisons between that and the music industry of the 1970s and 1980s that grave rise to the punk scene
[27/12/2014, 9:53:01 PM] drinternetphd: and why games needs more of that
[27/12/2014, 9:57:11 PM] drinternetphd: also adding this to the first paragraph
[27/12/2014, 9:57:12 PM] drinternetphd: "What these people don’t realize, largely due to the opaqueness that has been fostered by the industry, is that they’re laughably late on the scene and are even attacking those who have been fighting against harmful industry standards."
[27/12/2014, 9:57:25 PM] drinternetphd: I am on fire
[27/12/2014, 9:57:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, this is good.
[27/12/2014, 9:57:36 PM] drinternetphd: this is for boingboing
[27/12/2014, 9:57:37 PM] drinternetphd: so it counts
[27/12/2014, 9:57:39 PM] drinternetphd: like a lot
[27/12/2014, 9:57:43 PM] Rob: Oh, hm, noticed this - "so bad it has been followed as a hate group" do you mean that people are joining it as a hate group, or people are declaring it a hate group
[27/12/2014, 9:58:03 PM] drinternetphd: people are declaring it as a hategroup and I am going to link to southern poverty law center's hatewatch
[27/12/2014, 9:58:24 PM] Rob: Kk, that was gonna be my next question ("who are you referencing")
[27/12/2014, 9:58:29 PM] drinternetphd: there's gonna be links to dan's article for the CP thing, and an undecided article for the abuse thing
[27/12/2014, 9:58:35 PM] drinternetphd: cause there are so many to choose from
Chelsea clamed to have had C cup breasts since the third grade, which would be around 8-9 years old.
[27/12/2014, 10:10:29 PM] drinternetphd: to be fair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:38 PM] drinternetphd: I did start dying my hair to spite men who hate dyed hair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:51 PM] drinternetphd: I didn't want anyone to talk to me if they were the sort who would care about such a thign
[27/12/2014, 10:10:53 PM] drinternetphd: *thing
[27/12/2014, 10:11:02 PM] drinternetphd: I called it my "asshole filter"
[27/12/2014, 10:11:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Keeps the jerks out of your way.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:11 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: plus being a blonde teen who was 13 but looked 18 made me kind of hate a lot of people very early on
[27/12/2014, 10:13:39 PM] Rob: Oh god, I could imagine
[27/12/2014, 10:13:42 PM] drinternetphd: espeically growing up in a biker club where when you're a girl, your path is very clearly laid out
[27/12/2014, 10:13:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Ugh, yeah.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: yeah I got a c cup in 3rd grade too
[27/12/2014, 10:13:53 PM] drinternetphd: I had people creeping on me my whole life
[27/12/2014, 10:14:05 PM] Ian Cheong: That's incredibly shitty.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:13 PM] drinternetphd: it is and it isn't.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: my mom was hyper gender essentialist too
[27/12/2014, 10:14:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I think she knew I was kinda off
[27/12/2014, 10:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and kinda queer
[27/12/2014, 10:14:37 PM] drinternetphd: and panicked
[27/12/2014, 10:15:01 PM] drinternetphd: my childhood was kind of horrific in ways I won't ever talk about but it did teach me who I was and what I wanted at an accelerated pace
[27/12/2014, 10:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I got so into riot grrrl
[27/12/2014, 10:15:26 PM] drinternetphd: it was a rejection of everything violently forced upon me since I was born
[27/12/2014, 10:15:52 PM] Remy: Having to grow up fast in order to stay alive didn't really feel like it taught me who I was so much as it taught me how to recognize what i wasn't
[27/12/2014, 10:15:59 PM] drinternetphd: it's why leaving that small town behind and risking being a creator was the single most important thing that I've done in my life, and the thing that made me stop sucking so goddamned much
[27/12/2014, 10:16:04 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:16:07 PM] Remy: I grew up striving not to be like the negative people around in lie
[27/12/2014, 10:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's a better way to put it
[27/12/2014, 10:16:10 PM] Remy: life*
[27/12/2014, 10:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: places like that have an inertia to them, I think
[27/12/2014, 10:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: people rarely get out, for good reason. the deck is very stacked against you
[27/12/2014, 10:16:55 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I can forgive a lot
[27/12/2014, 10:17:13 PM] drinternetphd: even basic awareness becomes challenging
[27/12/2014, 10:17:18 PM] Remy: To this day I don't know what made me the personality type to swim against the tide instead of bend and become your tormentors or their accomplices
[27/12/2014, 10:17:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. I feel the same.
[27/12/2014, 10:17:34 PM] Remy: your* in the generic sense, not to anyone specific in this room
[27/12/2014, 10:17:44 PM] Remy: I communicate myself poorly v.v
[27/12/2014, 10:17:53 PM] drinternetphd: freak chaotic incidentialness is what I chalk it up to in my case
Accorching to Chelsea, Notch of Minecraft fame was at the time giving her $50 a month on Patreon and thought Depression Quest was an "important piece of art."
[27/12/2014, 10:32:55 PM] Rob: I mean, Notch owns the most expensive house in... what, Malibu? or whatever? now?
[27/12/2014, 10:32:57 PM] drinternetphd: but I decided at GameCity I am dedicating myself to this path of promoting altgames
[27/12/2014, 10:33:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Beverly Hills, Rob.
[27/12/2014, 10:33:13 PM] drinternetphd: idk, I adore markus but I don't ask him these things
[27/12/2014, 10:33:23 PM] Rob: ah, Beverly hills
[27/12/2014, 10:33:28 PM] Rob: And it's public record stuff
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] drinternetphd: that's irrelelvant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] Rob: Like he bought the most expensive house, I saw a few articles
[27/12/2014, 10:33:39 PM] drinternetphd: *irrelevant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:45 PM] Rob: No, I just mean that indie games are a path to success, obv
[27/12/2014, 10:33:48 PM] drinternetphd: right
[27/12/2014, 10:33:53 PM] drinternetphd: hmm hmm hmm
[27/12/2014, 10:34:01 PM] Rob: And Notch funds other people making games now too, IIRC
[27/12/2014, 10:34:09 PM] Rob: So it's becoming increasingly viable
[27/12/2014, 10:34:17 PM] drinternetphd: he funds me.
[27/12/2014, 10:34:18 PM] Rob: Or like, the No Man's Sky team will probably make $$$
[27/12/2014, 10:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: not to that degree
[27/12/2014, 10:34:51 PM] drinternetphd: $50 a month on patreon tho
[27/12/2014, 10:35:00 PM] Rob: Rob nods.
[27/12/2014, 10:35:04 PM] drinternetphd: all my big supporters are similarly successsful indies
[27/12/2014, 10:35:14 PM] drinternetphd: that I have done a lot for behind scenes
[27/12/2014, 10:35:25 PM] drinternetphd: (I am so good at promoting other people's shit but garbage at my own)
[27/12/2014, 10:35:31 PM] drinternetphd: it's always funny when that happens cause like
[27/12/2014, 10:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: I don't promote people based on my relationship with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:47 PM] drinternetphd: so a lot of the time I won't have even talked with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:59 PM] drinternetphd: so when they're suddenly supportive I'm like "oshit they noticed me"
[27/12/2014, 10:36:04 PM] Rob:
[27/12/2014, 10:36:10 PM] drinternetphd: #shitgamergatewouldneverbelieve
[27/12/2014, 10:36:13 PM] Ian Cheong: That must come as a pleasant surprise.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it's nice
[27/12/2014, 10:36:24 PM] drinternetphd: like I met markus after he'd played my game
[27/12/2014, 10:36:39 PM] drinternetphd: and it broke my brain. he told me it mattered to him and that he thought it was an important piece of art
[27/12/2014, 10:36:48 PM] Rob: That's awesome.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:36:54 PM] drinternetphd: he's a really sweet guy
[27/12/2014, 10:37:00 PM] drinternetphd: who wasn't expecting to get rich
[27/12/2014, 10:37:16 PM] drinternetphd: like you can still find the original tigsource threads from when he was prototypin
Chelsea bragged about the games she is supposed to be in and said she was "hyperventilating in starbucks" because the developer of Gone Home had used the name 'Quinn' as part of an Easter egg. This lead to Chelsea sperging out about Eron, again.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:42 PM] Ian Cheong: That's why I liked gone home so much. It subverted a lot of my expectations.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:48 PM] drinternetphd: gone home was beautiful
[27/12/2014, 10:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: yknow I'm in that game right
[27/12/2014, 10:44:04 PM] Ian Cheong: You are???
[27/12/2014, 10:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: mhmm
[27/12/2014, 10:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: the final book in the pentagram room
[27/12/2014, 10:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: was written by "christine quinn"
[27/12/2014, 10:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: karla mashed christine and I together
[27/12/2014, 10:44:25 PM] Ian Cheong: oh shit.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:29 PM] Ian Cheong: that's right.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:35 PM] drinternetphd: she reached out after to tell me and I started hyperventilating in a starbucks
[27/12/2014, 10:44:47 PM] drinternetphd: (cause I didn't know the team at all)
[27/12/2014, 10:45:09 PM] drinternetphd: games I am in that no one knows about: fez, they bleed pixels, jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:45:28 PM] drinternetphd: my illuminati shit rings true a little just because I have been nice to cool people for 3 yearas
[27/12/2014, 10:45:30 PM] drinternetphd: *years
[27/12/2014, 10:45:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm in Hellgate London.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:34 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[27/12/2014, 10:45:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup!
[27/12/2014, 10:45:39 PM] Ian Cheong: as a piece of armor.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: that rules
[27/12/2014, 10:46:00 PM] drinternetphd: I'm most of the voices of the women in jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:46:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Ian Cheong: I need to play that game.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:13 PM] drinternetphd: that's cause I am good at voice acting haha
[27/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't dedicate enough time to properly do it
[27/12/2014, 10:46:30 PM] Ian Cheong: I just knew Jim Sterling was in it.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: I like jim quite a lot.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:05 PM] drinternetphd: I like anyone that grows up and owns that
[27/12/2014, 10:47:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, he's great like that.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:17 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:47:29 PM] drinternetphd: everyone fucks up. there's not enough talk around the fact that fucking up is inevitable
[27/12/2014, 10:47:46 PM] drinternetphd: the "you fuck up once and you're banned forever" rhetoric in social justice pisses me off
[27/12/2014, 10:47:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup, no one's a saint, and part of growing up means making many mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] Rob: Agreed
[27/12/2014, 10:48:03 PM] drinternetphd: and that's what is so frustrating about gamergate
[27/12/2014, 10:48:10 PM] drinternetphd: I will never be allowed to make mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:18 PM] drinternetphd: I am not allowed to have character development
[27/12/2014, 10:48:25 PM] Ian Cheong: You are not allowed agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:28 PM] drinternetphd: I am denied a fundamental part of my humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:48:38 PM] drinternetphd: cause god, I am so far from perfect it's laughable
[27/12/2014, 10:48:54 PM] drinternetphd: the fact that Eron said in his shit that "I make people think I'm perfect and beyond criticism" is so insulting
[27/12/2014, 10:49:00 PM] drinternetphd: it's like, no, that's not me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that did not ring true to me at all.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:09 PM] drinternetphd: that's you and your weird purity standard you superimposed on me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:17 PM] drinternetphd: I've tried so hard to advocate for humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:49:18 PM] drinternetphd: and fucking up
[27/12/2014, 10:49:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It seemed like much of what he wrote was projection.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:26 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: he's a literal sociopath
[27/12/2014, 10:49:33 PM] Ian Cheong: He is.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:34 PM] drinternetphd: sociopaths tend to not fall in love
[27/12/2014, 10:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he fell in love with some weird idea of me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:59 PM] drinternetphd: ok
[27/12/2014, 10:50:05 PM] drinternetphd: say 100% of his post was true, which it isn't
[27/12/2014, 10:50:20 PM] drinternetphd: then at most, at it's basic facts, I'm accused of sleeping with people on tour.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:36 PM] drinternetphd: then owning up to it when called on it, and leaving.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Right.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:46 PM] drinternetphd: if I was a dude
[27/12/2014, 10:50:54 PM] drinternetphd: I don't think I even have to finish that statement
[27/12/2014, 10:50:58 PM] Ian Cheong: If you were a dude you would be forgiven by the masses in a heartbeat.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:08 PM] Ian Cheong: "Musicians do it all the time" they'd say.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: it is the last thing that is anyone's fucking business regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:51:43 PM] drinternetphd: the takeaway would be "maybe don't date her"
[27/12/2014, 10:51:44 PM] Rob: Pretty much.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I really don't know why it's such a big deal to people. Well, I have some ideas, but really, it's none of their business and they should feel ashamed for making it their business.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:59 PM] drinternetphd: which is fine. who I am currently with has known me better than him regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] drinternetphd: and I've not and never will give my side of things
[27/12/2014, 10:52:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you don't have to.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Ian Cheong: It's bullshit that anyone thinks to put you on the spot by forcing you to give a confession.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:45 PM] drinternetphd: just on principle I refuse to. I don't want the young girls I've taught how to make games to look at me and see me do that and take notes.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:55 PM] Rob: Even if everything in that post was true, the only person with any sort of public responsibility potentially would be NG if he had actually written a review.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:03 PM] drinternetphd: I think if you've cheated on people or not, that has nothing to do with your career
[27/12/2014, 10:53:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's denying you your agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:11 PM] Rob: This whole thing is fucking bullshit.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:14 PM] drinternetphd: see
[27/12/2014, 10:53:18 PM] drinternetphd: nathan and I were dating
[27/12/2014, 10:53:20 PM] drinternetphd: and told everyone
[27/12/2014, 10:53:28 PM] drinternetphd: and he specifically didn't cover my shit because of it.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:35 PM] drinternetphd: we had that conversation BEFORE we decided to date
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] drinternetphd: ironically.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Nathan's a great journalist. He's written for me a few times.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:49 PM] Rob: If a male game dev had done the exact same shit you were accused of, the response would have been HIGH FIVES
[27/12/2014, 10:53:52 PM] Rob: Right
[27/12/2014, 10:53:56 PM] drinternetphd: oh they have and they do.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:00 PM] Rob: Oh, I'm sure
[27/12/2014, 10:54:16 PM] Rob: It's disgusting.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It's double standards.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:24 PM] Ian Cheong: One for women and one for men.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:26 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Men get to keep a harem, if they want.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: women get to if you're a lesbian or trans because people already go "eww" and hate you anyway
[27/12/2014, 10:55:18 PM] drinternetphd: or you're already irrelevant for being a woman so who cares
[27/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Rob: I find it amusing that a lot of the people I know who are in gamergate now who are like 'ZOE'S A WHOOOOR' used to make fun of me for being a virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:55:34 PM] Rob: lolol double standards. fuck patriarchy.
[27/12/2014, 10:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: things I will never care about:
- other people fucking
-
[27/12/2014, 10:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: like to any degree
[27/12/2014, 10:55:53 PM] Rob: +1
[27/12/2014, 10:55:59 PM] drinternetphd: one of my closest friends is a 28 year old virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] drinternetphd: I've known him for like over a decade now
[27/12/2014, 10:56:25 PM] Rob: Yeah, I was that, basically. it was no one's business but my own. I'm not anymore, but w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: the only thing it effects for him, personally? WHEN PEOPLE ACT SHITTY CAUSE HE'S A VIRGIN
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why people make such a big deal about virginity, and at the same time shame people for having sex.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:59 PM] Rob: Like, w/e, I waited until I found someone I really liked and when I was mature enough and stable enough to have a relationship
[27/12/2014, 10:57:08 PM] drinternetphd: like I don't care if you haven't eaten a specific food. I don't care if you haven't been to a specific country. I don't care if you haven't seen a specific movie. why would I care if you have had sex or not
[27/12/2014, 10:57:17 PM] Rob: exactly
[27/12/2014, 10:57:28 PM] Rob: It literally does not affect me in any way whatsoever if someone else is having lots of sex or no sex or w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:57:35 PM] drinternetphd: I care that you're a good person who is healthy and happy and safe.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:43 PM] Rob: As long as it's consenting adults, have a blast or don't do anything, IDGAF
[27/12/2014, 10:57:47 PM] Ian Cheong: People make it their business because they want to assert control over your identity.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:48 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:57:56 PM] drinternetphd: it's the same people who police other people's pronouns
[27/12/2014, 10:58:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Correct.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:17 PM] drinternetphd: just give everyone a hyper basic level of humanity and respect
[27/12/2014, 10:58:20 PM] drinternetphd: it costs you nothing
[27/12/2014, 10:58:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Seriously. It's not that hard.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: like I got mad when people started going after cernovich cause of his skin condition and balls
[27/12/2014, 10:58:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah as far as I'm concerned, that's off limits.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:53 PM] drinternetphd: cause he is top 10 one of the worst people I've ever met
[27/12/2014, 10:58:56 PM] drinternetphd: but you don't do that to people, period
[27/12/2014, 10:59:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's like going after me because I'm Asian, you know?
[27/12/2014, 10:59:07 PM] drinternetphd: yea
[27/12/2014, 10:59:33 PM] Rob: It's far more satisfying to go after people for the shit they do, too, IMO
[27/12/2014, 10:59:41 PM] drinternetphd: it's more relevant and fixable too
[27/12/2014, 10:59:43 PM] Rob: yep
[27/12/2014, 10:59:44 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup.
[27/12/2014, 11:00:04 PM] drinternetphd: if you have control over something and you still choose to be an ass? if that effects me or humanity at large then we have beef
[27/12/2014, 11:00:13 PM] Rob: But even if you just want to be mean, it's far more fun to fuck with chuck c. Johnson shitting on the floor than insert whatever condition he may have
[27/12/2014, 11:00:23 PM] Rob: (assuming he has one, just for sake of argument)
[27/12/2014, 11:00:30 PM] drinternetphd: if you made a mistake or were thoughtless or it's not a pattern? Say you're sorry, don't let it happen again, and we are cool forever
Chelsea also claimed to have dated a tranny. Chelsea also thinks everyone should Listen and Believe whatever a troon tells them. She also mentioned that she used to hate furries and was a "total shit" to them.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:40 PM] drinternetphd: it takes active effort on my part to remember gender is a thing to people
[27/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] Remy: I was raised by... the worst people.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:47 PM] Rob: I didn't really know anyone who was trans (at least, that I was aware of), so I never had the opportunity to say that sort of stuff, so I don't know if I would have.
[27/12/2014, 11:03:02 PM] drinternetphd: for me it changed when I started dating a transwoman
[27/12/2014, 11:04:58 PM] drinternetphd: I do think there's more grey in gender than society currently effectively allows for
[27/12/2014, 11:04:59 PM] Rob: Agreed w/ zoe, Stephen.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:12 PM] Rob: I do think English needs to standardize like... more pronouns.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:23 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I try and promote the use of "y'all" and "folks"
[27/12/2014, 11:07:35 PM] drinternetphd: one of the things I think a lot of trans phobes and their ilk don't realize is like
[27/12/2014, 11:07:44 PM] drinternetphd: you do 0 disservice to anyone by just fucking listening
[27/12/2014, 11:07:54 PM] drinternetphd: and believing that someone is more of an expert on themselves than you are
[27/12/2014, 11:07:59 PM] Rob: yep. listening is what changed my mind
[27/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] drinternetphd: and believing in people
[27/12/2014, 11:08:11 PM] Rob: and it takes like 0 effort to do
[27/12/2014, 11:08:13 PM] Ian Cheong: They try to uphold the status quo because it offers them power over marginalized individuals.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:15 PM] drinternetphd: like I used to be a total shit to furries
[27/12/2014, 11:08:20 PM] drinternetphd: but like
[27/12/2014, 11:08:23 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck does it matter
[27/12/2014, 11:08:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Same.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:27 PM] drinternetphd: (not to compare the two mind you)
[27/12/2014, 11:08:30 PM] Rob: That's what pisses me off, Ian.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:32 PM] drinternetphd: but what the absolute fuck does it matter
Chelsea also claimed to have either been on a police force or just had wanted to become an officer who "didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously."
[27/12/2014, 11:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: the same shit's been happening during the ferguson protests. a few of my black friends have reached out and been like "thank you for caring and being vocal"
[27/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Ian Cheong: I just want to shake them!
[27/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] drinternetphd: and I'm like
[27/12/2014, 11:12:38 PM] drinternetphd: NO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS BARE MINIMUM
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] Remy: ME TOO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:51 PM] drinternetphd: WHAT I AM DOING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] drinternetphd: CARING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Remy: I'm like "THIS IS SMALL POTATOS THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING TEAR GASSED AND SHOT AT"
[27/12/2014, 11:13:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you're just being a human being.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:05 PM] drinternetphd: OUR BARS SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN LESS THAN NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:13:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Empathy should be the base minimum for human behavior.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:13:15 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why sociopathy has become the base minimum on the internet.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so fucking uncomfortable and wrong for being praised at all for that
[27/12/2014, 11:13:27 PM] Remy: Although I feel like a dick
[27/12/2014, 11:13:32 PM] Ian Cheong: Maybe it's easy for people to distance themselves from these issues, and paint anyone with empathy as an SJW.
[27/12/2014, 11:14:06 PM] drinternetphd: I think it has to be at least partly a perspective thing
[27/12/2014, 11:14:12 PM] Remy: Because every now and then I will still get a RT on this one tweet I put out... basically like a couple weeks ago this one cop tweeted out shit like "If any of you feel like you can't breathe or your lives matter I'll be [at some place off duty] with my [firearm]"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: they probably don't know how shit looks like when you haven't been given so many advantages
[27/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] Remy: And I tweeted him like "Hey dude come threaten me with your gun. I wanna see if you scare me"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:34 PM] Remy: I was just mad
[27/12/2014, 11:14:41 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:14:47 PM] Remy: But people are still laughing and shit
[27/12/2014, 11:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: tbh that's why I didn't stick it out and pursue trying to be a detective like I wanted to
[27/12/2014, 11:14:56 PM] Ian Cheong: People fail to recognize their privilege.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:06 PM] drinternetphd: I couldn't be around those peoepl
[27/12/2014, 11:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: *people
[27/12/2014, 11:15:13 PM] Remy: When I first joined the army it was going to be as a stepping stone to become a detective
[27/12/2014, 11:15:26 PM] Remy: I wanted to pursue online crimes and sexual predators
[27/12/2014, 11:15:35 PM] Remy: But the Army took out all of my tolerance for the US government
[27/12/2014, 11:15:41 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to be someone on the force who didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously
[27/12/2014, 11:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: yeahhhh
[27/12/2014, 11:15:53 PM] Ian Cheong: We're all a bunch of idealists.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] Remy: So I went back to my childhood dream of being a storyteller/novelist
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] drinternetphd: working with other people in law enforcement did the same
Chelsea really fucking hates wizardchan.
[27/12/2014, 11:30:58 PM] Ian Cheong: William Usher wrote a new piece about 'ethics in game journalism'
[27/12/2014, 11:31:19 PM] Ian Cheong: And in it, he talks about how Wizardchan had its "reputation damaged" by improper reportage into their harassment of Zoe Quinn.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Like hello this is the same Wizardchan that spawned Elliot Rodger.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:56 PM] Remy: I get the feeling that's like Hitler claiming his reputation was damaged by The Producers
[27/12/2014, 11:32:07 PM] Remy: like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[27/12/2014, 11:32:10 PM] Remy: If you say so
[27/12/2014, 11:32:28 PM] drinternetphd: yo wizardchan can fuck off
[27/12/2014, 11:32:45 PM] drinternetphd: like the fact that what they'd done to me in december was in question because of an idiot's crazy ass conspiracy jpeg is moronic
[27/12/2014, 11:43:14 PM] drinternetphd: yo
[27/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] drinternetphd: considering I have had a spade of cool friends who are virgins with depression
[27/12/2014, 11:43:45 PM] drinternetphd: and don't say shit like "women can't be depressed they can just go in the middle of the road with their hole open and a man will solve their problems"
[27/12/2014, 11:43:50 PM] drinternetphd: that is p much verbatim btw
[27/12/2014, 11:43:56 PM] Ian Cheong: so fucking gross.
[27/12/2014, 11:44:04 PM] drinternetphd: fuck wizardchan for pretending they're the definitive voice on being a depressed virgin
[27/12/2014, 11:44:09 PM] Rob: SERIOUSLY.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:19 PM] Rob: Yeah, I got brutalized on YT for admitting to being a virgin.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:29 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because people still attack me for that even though I'm not anymore.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] Ian Cheong: That's fucked.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Rob: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] drinternetphd: it super sucks
[27/12/2014, 11:46:04 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because most of these people are MRAs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:11 PM] Rob: or MGTOWs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:21 PM] drinternetphd: yeah if you actually cared about mens rights you wouldn't be a fucking prick to male virgins
[27/12/2014, 11:46:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Clearly they do not give a shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:32 PM] Rob: Or male rape victims.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:38 PM] drinternetphd: you'd be pushing against the societal pressure that makes them feel shitty about it
[27/12/2014, 11:46:42 PM] drinternetphd: and not
[27/12/2014, 11:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: yknow
[27/12/2014, 11:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: making them feel shitty about it
Chelsea said she has a "Kill Bill" list and Eron is her 'Bill'.
[27/12/2014, 11:48:55 PM] Rob: My rape stuff is in an ED article about me
[27/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Rob: and Tf00t did that whole shit encouraging dogpiling of me. They'd definitely do the same to you, or worse.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:29 PM] drinternetphd: fucking ED
[27/12/2014, 11:49:40 PM] drinternetphd: that site needs to go
[27/12/2014, 11:49:48 PM] Rob: agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:49:50 PM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
[27/12/2014, 11:49:51 PM] Ian Cheong: It went offline once. Not sure where it's hosted now.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:53 PM] Peter Coffin: and agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:51:16 PM] drinternetphd: milo links to it in articles about me
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] drinternetphd: I think
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] Peter Coffin: shouldn’t that stop someone from being considered a journalist
[27/12/2014, 11:52:07 PM] drinternetphd: a large % of my life is going to be dedicated to my kill bill list
[27/12/2014, 11:52:19 PM] Peter Coffin: who is bill
[27/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: eron
[27/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Peter Coffin: out of the lot
[27/12/2014, 11:52:27 PM] Peter Coffin: ah
[27/12/2014, 11:52:35 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who started all this.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:36 PM] Remy: Yup
[27/12/2014, 11:52:38 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one I once loved
[27/12/2014, 11:52:43 PM] Ian Cheong: I saw a whole bunch of Repubs laughing at him
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] Rob: Ian, it's 100% true.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who tried to control me via pregnancy shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] drinternetphd: eron is my bill.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] Remy: Def's writing under pseudonyms after this one contest
[27/12/2014, 11:53:13 PM] Remy: They really fucked with the wrong cyborg
[27/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Rob: Even most conservatives I know consider breitbart to be a joke, and Milo to be the worst of the bunch
[27/12/2014, 11:53:26 PM] Peter Coffin: you know what is really weird, I don’t even think of him. Every time I have thought of him he had disgusted me in some way or another. I don’t know if that is weird, my brain avoids it. the story of him is so fucked
[27/12/2014, 11:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: I clawed my way out of a childhood of poverty and violence.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] drinternetphd: these people? ants, comparitively.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:54 PM] drinternetphd: the only difference is they came after me once I had found my happy ending.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] drinternetphd: they came after me once I actually had something to lose.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:16 PM] drinternetphd: and peter: most people are like that.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:20 PM] drinternetphd: eron deliberately distanced himself.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] drinternetphd: the story of what he's done to me is lost even though it's what gg is founded on.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:42 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I’m sorry about him. one time he started talking to me without me even saying literally anything about him
[27/12/2014, 11:54:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll never forget what he did to you.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I was like “noooooooooope"
[27/12/2014, 11:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: even though it contextualizes this fucking nightmare.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. he registered a twitter account purely to stalk my friends an I
[27/12/2014, 11:55:07 PM] drinternetphd: *and
[27/12/2014, 11:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: and effectively he's gotten away with it pre-restraining order.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:35 PM] Ian Cheong: He puts on a friendly face when interacting with people, as a sociopath often does, to make people think he isn't the monster that he truly is.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:45 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I think you’re right about that ian
[27/12/2014, 11:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: he convinced me.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: they can
[27/12/2014, 11:56:04 PM] drinternetphd: even though once it was too late I caught on
[27/12/2014, 11:56:12 PM] drinternetphd: asked him to his face, no judgement, if he might be a sociopath
[27/12/2014, 11:56:15 PM] drinternetphd: told me no, it was something else.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:17 PM] Ian Cheong: At least you caught on, some people never do.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: I thought I could love him regardless.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:36 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm sorry.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m sorry too zoe
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] drinternetphd: and deal with the isolation and weirdness and controlling issues that came with it.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] Peter Coffin: geez
[27/12/2014, 11:57:05 PM] drinternetphd: I thought love was bigger than that because of my own bullshit history of being raised in abusive situations
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] drinternetphd: and I think he knew that and used it, honestly.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Now he paints himself as an abuse survivor. That mother fucker.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:25 PM] Peter Coffin: he is gamer gate, if you think about it
[27/12/2014, 11:57:32 PM] drinternetphd: he is. and no one knows.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:36 PM] Peter Coffin: he is co-opting in the same way they are
[27/12/2014, 11:57:37 PM] Remy: So I guess the first name on the Bill List is GamerGate. Sink the ship that is bombarding you. And now that ship is forever tied to CP and we just need to get that story out there and gaining traction
[27/12/2014, 11:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: I get "five guys" messages constantly and no one knows my ex made it up to hurt me
[27/12/2014, 11:57:51 PM] Ian Cheong: I called out Eron's bullshit on Twitter when he was on a stream once and gators rallied to defend him on the stream and on Twitter like I was abusing an abuse victim.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:58 PM] drinternetphd: I hear that.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:01 PM] Ian Cheong: A woman literally yelled at me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:02 PM] drinternetphd: I listened to it in realtime.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:08 PM] drinternetphd: I have to record those things.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:10 PM] drinternetphd: for court.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, it's still on Youtube probably.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: to know what he's feeding these people about me. so I can prepare.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:36 PM] drinternetphd: I can't get away from him because he refuses to stop dogging me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:42 PM] Peter Coffin: are you still stuck with the same shitty magistrate
[27/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: likely.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:49 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:50 PM] Remy: There has to be a way to occupy his attention to get some heat off of you...
[27/12/2014, 11:59:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubtful. he has been single minded for 5 months
[27/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: Sure this means he's been neglecting something.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:17 PM] drinternetphd: even before that when I tried to leave him a bunch of times he wouldn't let me leave.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 PM] drinternetphd: he had nothing else.
[28/12/2014, 12:03:21 AM] drinternetphd: lol he didn't even bother deleting his blogs from when I kept trying to get away from him
[28/12/2014, 12:03:22 AM] drinternetphd: sent a file to this group:
IMG_27122014_080304.png
[28/12/2014, 12:03:35 AM] drinternetphd: [28/12/2014, 12:03:50 AM] Ian Cheong: "How many memes did I cause, anyway?"
[28/12/2014, 12:04:00 AM] drinternetphd: he's a monster and no one knows.
[28/12/2014, 12:05:02 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[28/12/2014, 12:05:42 AM] Ian Cheong: You have twice as many tabs open as I do.
[28/12/2014, 12:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: this is not my only window
You may recall that in the days before Christmas Chelsea was sperging out hard about Patreon. Chelsea was worried because she believed she might be kicked off and wouldn't "have income" next month. On December 27th, Chelsea got the response from Patreon and was told they weren't taking action against her despite all the reports of what a shitbag she is. The staking of Cernovich and Hotwheels was also continuing.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: it'd be really nice if patreon would email me back at all
[27/12/2014, 2:24:56 AM] Ian Cheong: BTW, I notice that a lot of people refer to GGers by the names they use on their profiles, like "Eleanor Varrot". That's not a real name. That's a character from Valkyria Chronicles.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:59 AM] drinternetphd: and let me know if I have income or not next month
[27/12/2014, 2:26:42 AM] Peter Coffin: patreon is believing numbers/males over a harassed woman, thats how
[27/12/2014, 2:26:59 AM] Peter Coffin: or maybe isn't
[27/12/2014, 2:27:02 AM] Peter Coffin: but it seems like it right now
[27/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] drinternetphd: idk literally any fucking response right now would be nice
[27/12/2014, 2:27:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So frustrating to see them basically court Mike C and give him so much attention/validation
[27/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 2:27:38 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah
[27/12/2014, 2:27:51 AM] Peter Coffin: it proves they are at best clueless and I don't really want to say what at worst
[28/12/2014, 5:45:23 AM] drinternetphd: Patreon just cleared me. No action taken from cernovichs bs raid
[27/12/2014, 11:58:34 AM] Tesseract: well he also said he spent a shitload of money to win a rape case, is a fan of return of kings, and has said shit like "the better the sex the more it feels like rape"
[27/12/2014, 11:58:37 AM] Tesseract: so uh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:43 AM] Tesseract: preeeeeeeeeeeety fucking sure he's a rapist
[27/12/2014, 11:59:00 AM] drinternetphd: jesus christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus fucking christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's an early juicebro post on consent
[27/12/2014, 11:59:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2005/11/sexlaw_and_cons.html
[27/12/2014, 11:59:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's from 2005
[27/12/2014, 11:59:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Cern says women can't "not consent" for being passed out
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 AM] drinternetphd: I can't keep going down this particular rabbit hole right now so
[27/12/2014, 11:59:22 AM] drinternetphd: cause reasons
[27/12/2014, 11:59:39 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to go play pokemon and try to readjust
[28/12/2014, 5:45:47 AM] drinternetphd: Kluwe he did respond
[28/12/2014, 5:45:51 AM] Remy: Remy throws a :3 cat at Zoe
[28/12/2014, 5:45:52 AM] drinternetphd: But he deleted it
[28/12/2014, 5:45:56 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH
[28/12/2014, 5:45:58 AM] drinternetphd: But I screencapped it
[28/12/2014, 5:46:00 AM] drinternetphd: So
[28/12/2014, 5:49:22 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: http://i.gyazo.com/df66043cf9be9c2904b800654484d6d3.png
[28/12/2014, 5:49:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: "That's not yes or no question, as you know. Is a kawyer who draws up a contract for you still your lawyer? It depends."
[28/12/2014, 5:49:48 AM] Remy: oh wow
[28/12/2014, 5:49:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, saw that one
[28/12/2014, 5:50:01 AM] drinternetphd: this is the url if it helps https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547947529300480000
[28/12/2014, 5:50:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm trying to pin him down on representing hotwheels right now for the CP stuff
[28/12/2014, 5:50:13 AM] drinternetphd: ahh
They wanted to get Hotwheels a "lifetime ban" from Patreon for being a "white nationalist." They also celebrated RogueStar being kicked off Patreon and chimped about Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Hotwheels outing himself as a hardline white nationalist is pretty great.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:30 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 5:52:31 AM] drinternetphd: where
[28/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] drinternetphd: cause that's a lifetime ban from patreon
[28/12/2014, 5:52:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the whole problem with this thing though, is that none of them can admit they may have made a mistake
[28/12/2014, 5:52:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: sec, i linked it earlier
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Remy: It's on his 8chan page
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Ian Cheong: http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
[28/12/2014, 5:52:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: some nice person in Ghazi found the 8chan thread
[28/12/2014, 5:52:52 AM] Ian Cheong: There.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun with that Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's honestly kind of sad. Seems that he is for Eugenics because he thinks it would have prevented his disability
[28/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] drinternetphd: submit that to their hello@patreon.com email
[28/12/2014, 5:53:33 AM] Ian Cheong: He's an idiot. It would have prevented his very existence.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:36 AM] drinternetphd: with a link to his patreon page
[28/12/2014, 5:53:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian, of course
[28/12/2014, 5:53:47 AM] Peter Coffin: exactly ian
[28/12/2014, 5:53:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's the archived thread
[28/12/2014, 5:53:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
[28/12/2014, 5:53:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: standard chan warning of stupidity
[28/12/2014, 5:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: thank you thank you thank you
[28/12/2014, 5:54:07 AM] Ian Cheong: let's all email PAtreon
[28/12/2014, 5:54:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm writing one up now
[28/12/2014, 5:54:19 AM] drinternetphd: don't
[28/12/2014, 5:54:29 AM] drinternetphd: maybe do it if they don't respond to the first thing
[28/12/2014, 5:54:34 AM] Ian Cheong: ahh yeah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] drinternetphd: but just one person send one email
[28/12/2014, 5:54:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok
[28/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] drinternetphd: I'm still a little jittery from all this so if someone else could take this I'd be greatful
[28/12/2014, 5:54:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, looking like we're brigading is bad juju
[28/12/2014, 5:55:01 AM] Ian Cheong: who wants to do it? I've already reported other people so i don't think they want to hear from me too much.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:09 AM] drinternetphd: but they're kind of leery of getting hit with massive outcry because that's what GG does
[28/12/2014, 5:55:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can do it, i've been pretty active about it on twitter today
[28/12/2014, 5:55:21 AM] Ian Cheong: great.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:22 AM] drinternetphd: thanks man
[28/12/2014, 5:58:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's what i wrote
[28/12/2014, 5:58:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: Hello, it has come to my attention that one of your Patreon members, Fredrick Brennan, aka Hotwheels (the owner of 8chan) has written an article for the Daily Stormer (a neo-Nazi site), and has expressed a wish to write more articles for that site. I believe that this violates the terms of services of Patreon, and hope that this information proves useful to your company in protecting its image.
Archived link of the entire thread here, Brennan is the moderator with the wheelchair symbol
https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
Screenshot here
http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
Thank you, and have a nice day!
-Chris
[28/12/2014, 5:58:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Looks good.
[28/12/2014, 5:58:36 AM] Athena Hollow: (y)
[28/12/2014, 5:58:42 AM] drinternetphd: very good.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: and sent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:09 AM] Peter Coffin: Excellent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Today really delivered.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: automated reply sent back, would imagine they won't get back to me for a couple hours or so
[28/12/2014, 5:59:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Indeed
[28/12/2014, 5:59:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, their automated reply image is great
[28/12/2014, 6:00:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I cannot with this today.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:14 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It has been five hours.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:18 AM] Ian Cheong: RogueStar's patreon is gone.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha
[28/12/2014, 6:00:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: but how will he finish his game?
[28/12/2014, 6:00:34 AM] Athena Hollow: They essentially implemented a "Rogue Rule" XD
[28/12/2014, 6:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:00:43 AM] Ian Cheong: Sorry Veerender.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fuck Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:02 AM] Remy: lol I leave my twitter for five minutes
[28/12/2014, 6:01:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: that guy's such a fucking douche
[28/12/2014, 6:02:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Well, Mundane Matt--made everyone attack me, since last night.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:43 AM] drinternetphd: : ( oh no you too?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have been dealing with garbage for five hours right now.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] drinternetphd: are you documenting all that?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero 5m5 minutes ago
@ChrisWarcraft @playdangerously Catching up on stuff. Is this the founder of 8chan talking about writing for the Daily Stormer? Not cool.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[28/12/2014, 6:03:16 AM] Ian Cheong: YES
[28/12/2014, 6:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: oh my~
[28/12/2014, 6:03:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/mundanematt/status/548712926853742592
[28/12/2014, 6:03:23 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It was from that.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:24 AM] Remy: wow nice
[28/12/2014, 6:03:27 AM] Remy: Sorry
[28/12/2014, 6:03:32 AM] Remy: I'm just shocked to hear that coming from Mil
[28/12/2014, 6:03:33 AM] Remy: Milo*
[28/12/2014, 6:03:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Zoe, he is bothering you, too?
[28/12/2014, 6:03:42 AM] Remy: lIke is Milo being the voice of reason today?
[28/12/2014, 6:04:05 AM] drinternetphd: veerender: he made the first accusations about me banging nathan for coverage
[28/12/2014, 6:05:08 AM] drinternetphd: veerender - if you screenshot all of the shit you have the gumption to from MundaneMatt, send it to patreon
[28/12/2014, 6:05:13 AM] drinternetphd: he is not allowed to do this
Chelsea bragged to her rat king that her 'agent' for the Five Guys: The Book could "eat" Milo's agent. Chelsea described the book as a "series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life" and that she would say "how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason" and try to "kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends."
[28/12/2014, 6:06:15 AM] drinternetphd: hahaha milo is gonna be pissed when he sees my agent can eat his agent
[28/12/2014, 6:06:31 AM] drinternetphd: when I announce the book I'm recreating his stupid photo
[28/12/2014, 6:06:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[28/12/2014, 6:07:00 AM] drinternetphd: also my agent? don't leak cause I am not sure when we're announcing but
[28/12/2014, 6:07:03 AM] drinternetphd: it's Ross-Yoon
[28/12/2014, 6:07:27 AM] Ian Cheong: That's awesome Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:07:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: and congrats zoe
[28/12/2014, 6:07:35 AM] Rob: Awesome, zoe!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:46 AM] drinternetphd: my agent only really represents pulitzer winners and nyt bestsellers
[28/12/2014, 6:07:52 AM] drinternetphd: she hasn't NOT sold a pitch ever
[28/12/2014, 6:07:56 AM] Athena Hollow: awesome!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:58 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder
[28/12/2014, 6:08:04 AM] drinternetphd: also she is fun to drink with and "gets" my approach to creativity
[28/12/2014, 6:08:06 AM] Peter Coffin: That's bad as Fuck
[28/12/2014, 6:08:08 AM] Ian Cheong: What if you won a Pulitzer.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:11 AM] drinternetphd: lol shut up
[28/12/2014, 6:08:18 AM] Ian Cheong: hehe
[28/12/2014, 6:08:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: hahaha, the gross parts of the internet would implode
[28/12/2014, 6:08:35 AM] Athena Hollow: MUST. MAKE. HAPPEN.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:08:46 AM] drinternetphd: the way I'm doing it makes it unlikely probably
[28/12/2014, 6:09:00 AM] Peter Coffin: How so
[28/12/2014, 6:09:02 AM] drinternetphd: my longform shit borrows super heavily from david sedaris, format-wise
[28/12/2014, 6:09:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
[28/12/2014, 6:09:26 AM] drinternetphd: so it'll be a series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life
[28/12/2014, 6:09:39 AM] drinternetphd: and how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason
[28/12/2014, 6:09:44 AM] Peter Coffin: That doesn't mean it can't win a Pulitzer. No pressure.
[28/12/2014, 6:09:48 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:49 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:53 AM] drinternetphd: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:55 AM] drinternetphd: fuck you guys
[28/12/2014, 6:09:59 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to dedicate the book to farts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] Ian Cheong: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] Ian Cheong: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:08 AM] drinternetphd: then it will never win anything
[28/12/2014, 6:10:12 AM] Athena Hollow: Kav will love it.
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Peter Coffin: Haha
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Remy: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:24 AM] Remy: I thought you were going to dedicated it to butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Yes she will
[28/12/2014, 6:10:28 AM] Remy: Not Sarah, just, y'know, butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:32 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 6:10:35 AM] drinternetphd: butts might be better
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Remy:
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:40 AM] drinternetphd: don't want fart to continue thinking it was a shoutout
[28/12/2014, 6:14:18 AM] Quinnae: Just catching up with all this.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:29 AM] Quinnae: From the way you described it, Zoe, I do think you have a best seller on your hands.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:43 AM] drinternetphd: aaaa idk
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] drinternetphd: the goal is like
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This could be the book that defines what it's like to live on the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:51 AM] drinternetphd: start out with some sweet internet stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:14:56 AM] drinternetphd: how it gave me pretty much everything I have
[28/12/2014, 6:15:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm playing Halo 4 right now. IDK why I get so scared over these kind of games with aliens and stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:15:14 AM] drinternetphd: try and kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends
[28/12/2014, 6:15:20 AM] Ian Cheong: I have the internet to thank for all that I have, too.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:26 AM] Athena Hollow: Same.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:27 AM] drinternetphd: start out in the shirt
[28/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: *shire
[28/12/2014, 6:15:35 AM] drinternetphd: lead them through mordor that is gamergate
[28/12/2014, 6:15:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:15:40 AM] Ian Cheong: Be they friends, professional success, or whatever. It's the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 9m 9 minutes ago
@The_TimelessOne @PlayDangerously @ChrisWarcraft @infinitechan Yes, fine. Can’t really avoid addressing this in the book now I’ve seen it.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:57 AM] drinternetphd: juxtaposing the small moments of GG so they feel like they're traveling through my story with me
[28/12/2014, 6:16:06 AM] drinternetphd: using selected anecdotes to make specific points about all this
[28/12/2014, 6:16:10 AM] SF: Dedicate it to Sonic with a really divisive comment that the community disagrees with so it goes viral.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:11 AM] Athena Hollow: Pretty much all of the people who are my friends, I met online, including my husband.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: omg
[28/12/2014, 6:16:18 AM] SF: Like say you like the American soundtrack to CD better.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: these arguments
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] drinternetphd: leading up to the judge telling me none of it mattered because internet
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:16:35 AM] drinternetphd: and probably wrapping up with the conversation I had with Anita before getting on a plane to come here
[28/12/2014, 6:16:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If I write an opinion piece for Time Magazine does that mean I agree with Time Magazine?"
[28/12/2014, 6:16:57 AM] drinternetphd: so basically get really friendly with the reader, completely crush their spirits, and then lead them back out of it with an eye for rebuilding and reform
Chelsea said she once dated an "otakukin" and that she used to be an internet tough guy. She also joked about Sonic the Hedgehog being her "husbando" because of course a lolcow would have autismal connections to Sonic.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:26 AM] SF: I was lucky enough to fall in with people that believed they were literal werewolves or whatever. Same kind of teenage passion, but a significantly less sticky topic. I bet I could have fallen in with worse people and teen me wouldn't have understood the difference, just seen a fast track to identity-having.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:33 AM] drinternetphd: oh god
[28/12/2014, 6:21:38 AM] drinternetphd: I dated an otakukin once
[28/12/2014, 6:21:46 AM] drinternetphd: so I feel ya
[28/12/2014, 6:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, if half the shit i said on the old ream forum boards was still around
[28/12/2014, 6:22:07 AM] SF: Now I just want to fuck werewolves because I am a mature adult.
[28/12/2014, 6:22:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:22:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, it wasn't 8chan levels of degeneracy, but i went in the paint pretty hard
[28/12/2014, 6:22:57 AM] drinternetphd: i had a bad case of internet toughguy bullshit before I moved out of the small town I lived in
[28/12/2014, 6:23:08 AM] drinternetphd: sf: he thought he was sailor uranus reincarnated and I was sailor neptune
[28/12/2014, 6:23:20 AM] Athena Hollow: ....
[28/12/2014, 6:23:23 AM] Ian Cheong: So that's what an otakukin isl.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:25 AM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: everyone's gotta have a dream
[28/12/2014, 6:23:32 AM] drinternetphd: saw him years later (I was like 14 at the time) and kinda asked about it and he was like "yeah no I'm over that. I figured out I'm really Cloud."
[28/12/2014, 6:23:48 AM] drinternetphd: he is a manager at a best buy these days
[28/12/2014, 6:23:51 AM] SF: I wonder how many Shadow the Hedgehogs there are.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:54 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[28/12/2014, 6:23:55 AM] Remy: "otakukin"?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:00 AM] drinternetphd: yeah like otherkin
[28/12/2014, 6:24:01 AM] Peter Coffin: cloud is a manager at best buy?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Believe they are reincarnated anime style characters.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:08 AM] drinternetphd: but anime
[28/12/2014, 6:24:43 AM] drinternetphd: as long as we're all clear on one thing
[28/12/2014, 6:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey, hey, folks, I used to think I was a psychic vampire when I was like 14.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:48 AM] drinternetphd: sonic is my husband and not yours
[28/12/2014, 6:24:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:24:52 AM] SF: Whether you are or are not literally a particular anime character is IN MY HUMBLE OPINION not a social construct.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: (I am not being serious)
[28/12/2014, 6:25:04 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck off, sonic's mine.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:12 AM] drinternetphd: that's a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:15 AM] SF: You can have him. I'm over him. He's hurt me too many times.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:18 AM] drinternetphd: your sonic is a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:25:25 AM] drinternetphd: only my husbando is the real article
Chelsea said she would get "horse porn" if holographic data storage tech went mainstream. Chelsea spent $120 for that chip that the Steam game code on it and she said she "jammed" it into herself. She also spent $100 on that magnet she had put in her finger.
28/12/2014, 6:26:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Once holographic data storage tech becomes mainstream you might be able to inject a terabyte of data into your hand, Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:29 AM] Peter Coffin: "hand" led
[28/12/2014, 6:26:37 AM] Remy: okay I finally broke down and Googled "waif"
[28/12/2014, 6:26:39 AM] SF: That storage sounds
[28/12/2014, 6:26:40 AM] SF: handy
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] drinternetphd: i am going to fill it with horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I just want a cure for whatever the fuck cold thing I have -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:26:45 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm waiting for augmented reality to really take off.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:47 AM] Remy: and no wonder I couldn't figure out what it means, it's not a real word
[28/12/2014, 6:26:48 AM] drinternetphd: a hand full of horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:29:17 AM] SF: They're going to use it for harvesting people's biometric data, mark my words.
[28/12/2014, 6:29:50 AM] drinternetphd: sf actually the lab I was part of pre-gamergate totalling my life was doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: we're already doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] drinternetphd: we're just a bunch of grinders but we've got a chip almost finished that will take longterm biodata and upload it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:11 AM] drinternetphd: yeah but this is with open hardware
[28/12/2014, 6:30:17 AM] drinternetphd: and with body mod practitioners
[28/12/2014, 6:30:26 AM] drinternetphd: so you don't need to have a ton of cash to get it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: a lot of people also don't understand we're already living in the panopticon, it's just not evenly distributed yet :p
[28/12/2014, 6:30:36 AM] drinternetphd: yeah see
[28/12/2014, 6:30:38 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep Chris.
[28/12/2014, 6:30:40 AM] drinternetphd: that's why I was part of my lab
[28/12/2014, 6:30:54 AM] drinternetphd: tired of this technoutopian vision where only rich people get to party
[28/12/2014, 6:31:04 AM] SF: Neat. I'm all for people taking control of their bodies like that. What scares me is places like Facebook doing it implicitly and on an opt-out model.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:09 AM] drinternetphd: yknow how much the chip in my hand cost? $120
[28/12/2014, 6:31:10 AM] Ian Cheong: I want to live in a world where everyone gets to have access to biotech.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: basically I want Iain Banks' Culture
[28/12/2014, 6:31:23 AM] drinternetphd: jammed it in there myself
[28/12/2014, 6:31:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: but human nature tends to push towards dystopia
[28/12/2014, 6:31:29 AM] Athena Hollow: We got a long time till that one. We don't even live in a world where everyone has access to healthcare yet -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:31:32 AM] drinternetphd: my magnetic implant was only $100
Chelsea named the "white house contact" she mentioned before, Mark DeLoura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_DeLoura
[28/12/2014, 7:48:21 AM] drinternetphd: mark deloura's my whitehouse contact dude - if he ever ends up reaching out to you too just fyi he's good people
[28/12/2014, 7:48:22 AM] Randi Harper: squeee
[28/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Remy: RANDI CRACKIN THE CODE OVER HERE
[28/12/2014, 7:48:29 AM] Randi Harper: gotcha.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:30 AM] Remy: (ninja)
[28/12/2014, 7:48:38 AM] Randi Harper: man this is going to be intense.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm sure they'd love to be able to use this to actively identify and track harassers
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] drinternetphd: he's on the white house subcomittee for tech and I know he's been pushing GG shit up there
This is about the end of the Chelsea content from the 4th Main Chat leak. We'll end it with this:
[28/12/2014, 7:52:07 AM] drinternetphd: internet should be a basic human right the way literacy should be
I seriously don't get her beef with WizardChan. Did someone know what was up and refuse to fuck her or what?
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Worse, they independently said her game was shit. Before all the gamergate gayness happened.
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I might be able to shine light on that. As Albert Schweitzer once put it: "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight."
Wizardchan, despite its reputation, is one of the most harmless chans on the entire fucking internet, comprising NEETs and shut-ins who are essentially too socially fucked to be able to function in society much - if at all. Its population is most often content to sit in its corner of the Internet and be left alone. The most they ever do is have spergfests over the normies and these never amount to much more than impotent rage.
It's no stretch to point out the obvious: Quinn targeted them because they wouldn't fight back. We already know from Wizardchan staff that one of Quinn's buddies - if not Quinn herself - distributed her old Locke Valentine shit on there and she later claimed they had been harassing her because of it.
You know, a board full of people so socially awkward that most of them can barely manage a phone call or the like.
In truth, their only crime was discussing Quinn's game - and some of her all-too-questionable connections. You know how this clique reacts to exposure by now, so the Wizards were the canaries in the mine. Quinn was very successful in getting the Wizards painted with the same brush normally reserved for the Sluthate crowd, and they sure as shit weren't going to speak up in their own defense. Those who would and could were easily dealt with using the "LISTEN AND BELIEVE THEY HARASSED ME" tactic used by these cretins a thousand times hence.
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Well this just brings me to my ultimate question: why do they care?
Why do they care that some anons on WizardChan didn't like the game? Why do they give a rats ass about Chelsea's past?
I've just never once seen why they give any amount of a fuck about any of this. Even if it was a coordinated series of events, why WizardChan? Nobody gave a fuck about them.
I mean "Ooh no muh harassment" has amounted to little more than a minimum wage life for Chelsea. Nobody in the gaming industry that has any desire to work in it will touch her next game with a 10 foot pole. She alienated herself from the minor celebrities she managed to schmooze with.
To top it all off there's been so many leaks of all the crazy behaviour that you'd be fucking psychotic to ever go near this woman.
Seriously, what was the fucking point of any of this? Where did she think being a human trash fire was going to take her?
That's the thing that bothers me. You spend all this time putting Phil Fish's dick in your asshole so you can develop some industry connections, then immediately burn it all the fuck down by acting like a 14 year old on Microsoft Comic Chat.
The fuck.
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It all makes sense if you're retarded.
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Chelsea is obsessed with her ex. If Eron ever dates anyone with an Internet presence they're getting dog shit on their doorstep.
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I haven't been following this thread so this may be a useless addition. What would the design work she needs done be for?
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In the end, it hasn't worked out for her, but I think at least some of her motivation at the time was to do a repeat of what Anita Sarkeesian had done seven months earlier; get a large amount of "harassment" from a chan (considered to be the hive of scum and villainy by the ignorant) and profit. The problem was unlike raking in money hand over fist like Anita did, Quinn got small amounts of attention instead, which eventually peaked when the Zoe Post went live six months later. Sure, she did eventually get increased income from all of the attention but it was by starting brushfire after brushfire, and now it's increasingly questionable if the profit was worth the losses. Anita stayed out of pretty much any form of scandal or drama with only the occasional interview with someone who would not ask her hard questions while Quinn has been little but drama in one form or another.
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You're trying to use conventional logic here. That's why it's not making sense to you.
To understand this, you have to use insane professional victim logic.
The ultimate reason for this is that they wanted a footprint in the industry.
I have yet to figure out why they want it, but the evidence of them wanting it is more than sufficient for now.
Quinn has powerful ties. Before Gamergate ever happened, she was huge in the Indie Circuit (despite accomplishing fuck all), and she had direct ties to Maya Kramer, Katherine Cross, Brandon Boyer, and more. You can see her in photos of Phil Fish's wedding and at least one case of her being in a photo with the Chucklefuck Used-to-be-on-the-Escapist Brothers (Bob Chipman and Jim Sterling who both left The Escapist because Gamergate. Jim Quit and went full Patreon; Bob Chipman got his ass fired after the FTC locked onto his actions). There was an agenda that these fucks wanted to push, and they didn't care how they got it.
They wanted a footprint in video game development, and they were going to have a say, no matter how it was done. This was covered by the content of the DIGRA reports, which basically meant that they weren't going to be able to "capture" video game development by going through the diversity angle:
There's plenty of exampes that show how Quinn was part of this madness. She's personal friends with multiple people who work in or run Feminist Frequency, including Maya Kramer (works for its corporate parent) and Devin Faraci (ditto). A lot of these people have direct ties to the DIGRA group that was responsible for the initial "Gamers are Dead" article data citations, which, in turn, was all about trying to establish a need for "diversity in gaming" despite their own research seeing no desire for what they were selling.
If I had to establish a motive, it was the fact that they have no skills and want desperately to be considered the new face of video gaming, but they have no marketable skills and no real accomplishments to speak of, so I'm curious as to how the fuck they thought that was going to fly, but there I am using not-insane logic again.
Here's her and her joy-boy. Look what site he's on.
The most obvious path for these fucks to get what they wanted was a second Anita Sarkeesian. Rather than simply go for a Kickstarter and let the gravy train roll in though, like they did last time, this one was for all the proverbial marbles. You can see this from Quinn's ongoing memes in the CON logs about how she had big backers supporting her, and how, miraculously, Katherine Cross, FemFreq's secretary, just happened to mysteriously be there.
Look, after two years of analyzing these depraved fucksteaks, I no longer believe in coincidence. It's very easy to dismiss the more conspiratorial memes passed around in Gamergate circles as being a bit too far-fetched, but we have the CON Leaks and Trello Leaks to now show that if anything a lot of those suspicions were anything but crazy.
They had everything in place - massive connections on Social Media, the activist community, even the Chans, mainstream media support, and tons of online Journalists ready to parrot their same attack plans. All they had to do was shut up everyone who could discuss it and shout down the rest and they'd be good to go for the foreseeable future. So Quinn locked down Eron and hoped, by using the harassment angle, she could shut down discussion on other angles.
And we all know how badly that blew up in their face.
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You're trying to use conventional logic here. That's why it's not making sense to you.
To understand this, you have to use insane professional victim logic.
The ultimate reason for this is that they wanted a footprint in the industry.
I have yet to figure out why they want it, but the evidence of them wanting it is more than sufficient for now.
Quinn has powerful ties. Before Gamergate ever happened, she was huge in the Indie Circuit (despite accomplishing fuck all), and she had direct ties to Maya Kramer, Katherine Cross, Brandon Boyer, and more. You can see her in photos of Phil Fish's wedding and at least one case of her being in a photo with the Chucklefuck Used-to-be-on-the-Escapist Brothers (Bob Chipman and Jim Sterling who both left The Escapist because Gamergate. Jim Quit and went full Patreon; Bob Chipman got his ass fired after the FTC locked onto his actions). There was an agenda that these fucks wanted to push, and they didn't care how they got it.
They wanted a footprint in video game development, and they were going to have a say, no matter how it was done. This was covered by the content of the DIGRA reports, which basically meant that they weren't going to be able to "capture" video game development by going through the diversity angle:
There's plenty of exampes that show how Quinn was part of this madness. She's personal friends with multiple people who work in or run Feminist Frequency, including Maya Kramer (works for its corporate parent) and Devin Faraci (ditto). A lot of these people have direct ties to the DIGRA group that was responsible for the initial "Gamers are Dead" article data citations, which, in turn, was all about trying to establish a need for "diversity in gaming" despite their own research seeing no desire for what they were selling.
If I had to establish a motive, it was the fact that they have no skills and want desperately to be considered the new face of video gaming, but they have no marketable skills and no real accomplishments to speak of, so I'm curious as to how the fuck they thought that was going to fly, but there I am using not-insane logic again.
Here's her and her joy-boy. Look what site he's on.
The most obvious path for these fucks to get what they wanted was a second Anita Sarkeesian. Rather than simply go for a Kickstarter and let the gravy train roll in though, like they did last time, this one was for all the proverbial marbles. You can see this from Quinn's ongoing memes in the CON logs about how she had big backers supporting her, and how, miraculously, Katherine Cross, FemFreq's secretary, just happened to mysteriously be there.
Look, after two years of analyzing these depraved fucksteaks, I no longer believe in coincidence. It's very easy to dismiss the more conspiratorial memes passed around in Gamergate circles as being a bit too far-fetched, but we have the CON Leaks and Trello Leaks to now show that if anything a lot of those suspicions were anything but crazy.
They had everything in place - massive connections on Social Media, the activist community, even the Chans, mainstream media support, and tons of online Journalists ready to parrot their same attack plans. All they had to do was shut up everyone who could discuss it and shout down the rest and they'd be good to go for the foreseeable future. So Quinn locked down Eron and hoped, by using the harassment angle, she could shut down discussion on other angles.
And we all know how badly that blew up in their face.
Yes, I agree, but why?
This is obviously not coincidence, and it was very obviously some kind of power play at work, but to what ends?
I mean, it just doesn't look like it was ever about money. Which is what confuses me - if it's not about money then what dynamic is at play that they needed to change for their benefit?
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Now, this is conjecture, but what I believe was the intent was to give them a footprint on "the industry" in an attempt to have a bigger slice of the pie and ergo, control over what games could hit. We see this and we see an impossible goal, but to these fuckers, it's not as crazy as that. Look at how hard they push to try to stop titles they personally don't like.
First,, look at Lifschitz' little sperg-out that resulted in him losing pretty much all of his AAA developer contacts:
During this, you see three specific lines of demarcation emerge in Lifschitz' sperging:
1. "AAA Games" are the devil and must be ended
2. Depression Quest is the bestest game ever you guys
3. Gaming needs to be guided by people like us who can hipster the fun out of the whole thing
A few in this thread have established that Quinn's a known cultural marxist, and Lifschitz certainly doesn't fall far from that tree.
What about DIGRA? Well, about that:
DIGRA repeatedly bemoans the "plurality of markets" that Gaming has and tries to make it out to be this big problem that they never quite can explain why is a problem. Lo and behold, same cultural marxist attitudes at the core, with pretty much analogous objectives. Gaming must change, because we say it does.
This literally is the case with 100% of the big-name Anti-GGers. Look at the huge number of them that bemoan some stupid weeb game that appeals only to a weeb market, will use any argument to claim that the west losing these games isn't a loss, and then when those get disproven, get pissy about it. I could write a fucking doctoral thesis over Bob Chipman and Andrew Dobson doing this alone.
Brianna Wu is the same way, but happens to be way less subtle about it:
I have no idea why the fuck they think they're entitled to this level of control, but they clearly think they are, and they're fucking pissed that their own shit is about as popular as a fucking-your-own-ass-with-a-pineapple contest. Fact is, their movement is a supremacist and arguably Imperialistic one.
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I think Chelsea's clique expected money to roll in at some point. If she could bill herself as the "revolutionary feminist game developer," she may have hoped that some major studio would give her a budget and allow her to form a production company under their umbrella with few strings attached. She could crank out some games, ghostwrite some books about the challenges she's overcome, form some non-profit organization and start making income from all those channels. But that's not how it shook out.
On a broader scale, the question is: what do DIGRA, Silverstring Media and similar organizations want to do by raising up people like Chelsea? Diversity initiatives happen in many fields, and they often serve as a means for people with political connections to land cushy sinecure jobs and trade favors with powerful people. Just like religious leaders, diversity campaigners are seen as having an elevated level of virtue that protects them from criticism. The game industry was a place where they saw an opening and moved to capitalize on it, with Anita having the most success.
Here's another interesting question: did Chelsea get the amount of influence she had by herself or did someone hand-pick and groom her? It's surprising that someone with so few accomplishments managed to get so much pull with the media, and the chatlogs don't suggest that she has that much organizational skill. Something about it just doesn't add up for me, so I wonder if someone or some group decided that she would be a good poster child. If so, it doesn't say much for their powers of judgment.
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it'll always amaze me how these people had all the connections they needed, and were actively plotting together, but were defeated by a bunch of autistic neckbeards, shut-ins, and NEETs who just wanted to be left alone and play video games.You're trying to use conventional logic here. That's why it's not making sense to you.
To understand this, you have to use insane professional victim logic.
The ultimate reason for this is that they wanted a footprint in the industry.
I have yet to figure out why they want it, but the evidence of them wanting it is more than sufficient for now.
Quinn has powerful ties. Before Gamergate ever happened, she was huge in the Indie Circuit (despite accomplishing fuck all), and she had direct ties to Maya Kramer, Katherine Cross, Brandon Boyer, and more. You can see her in photos of Phil Fish's wedding and at least one case of her being in a photo with the Chucklefuck Used-to-be-on-the-Escapist Brothers (Bob Chipman and Jim Sterling who both left The Escapist because Gamergate. Jim Quit and went full Patreon; Bob Chipman got his ass fired after the FTC locked onto his actions). There was an agenda that these fucks wanted to push, and they didn't care how they got it.
They wanted a footprint in video game development, and they were going to have a say, no matter how it was done. This was covered by the content of the DIGRA reports, which basically meant that they weren't going to be able to "capture" video game development by going through the diversity angle:
There's plenty of exampes that show how Quinn was part of this madness. She's personal friends with multiple people who work in or run Feminist Frequency, including Maya Kramer (works for its corporate parent) and Devin Faraci (ditto). A lot of these people have direct ties to the DIGRA group that was responsible for the initial "Gamers are Dead" article data citations, which, in turn, was all about trying to establish a need for "diversity in gaming" despite their own research seeing no desire for what they were selling.
If I had to establish a motive, it was the fact that they have no skills and want desperately to be considered the new face of video gaming, but they have no marketable skills and no real accomplishments to speak of, so I'm curious as to how the fuck they thought that was going to fly, but there I am using not-insane logic again.
Here's her and her joy-boy. Look what site he's on.
The most obvious path for these fucks to get what they wanted was a second Anita Sarkeesian. Rather than simply go for a Kickstarter and let the gravy train roll in though, like they did last time, this one was for all the proverbial marbles. You can see this from Quinn's ongoing memes in the CON logs about how she had big backers supporting her, and how, miraculously, Katherine Cross, FemFreq's secretary, just happened to mysteriously be there.
Look, after two years of analyzing these depraved fucksteaks, I no longer believe in coincidence. It's very easy to dismiss the more conspiratorial memes passed around in Gamergate circles as being a bit too far-fetched, but we have the CON Leaks and Trello Leaks to now show that if anything a lot of those suspicions were anything but crazy.
They had everything in place - massive connections on Social Media, the activist community, even the Chans, mainstream media support, and tons of online Journalists ready to parrot their same attack plans. All they had to do was shut up everyone who could discuss it and shout down the rest and they'd be good to go for the foreseeable future. So Quinn locked down Eron and hoped, by using the harassment angle, she could shut down discussion on other angles.
And we all know how badly that blew up in their face.
Like, I remember the initial reaction to the zoe post. It was a bunch of retards gossiping about other retards fucking each other. It was a tabloid level sex scandal, and would've gotten forgotten about (outside of 'point and laugh at gaming journos' threads) in a week. But then they had to piss of the collective autism of multiple sites, and almost universally committed career suicide.
Literally all they had to do was leave the autists alone and play their video games, and they would've gotten away with it.
And I'm wondering how the fuck none of these people- including multiple people who work in PR- thought of this?
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Going back to the Skype logs and picking up with Main Chat 3 and 4. We start off with Chelsea and company plotting revenge and cyber stalking people on Christmas Day and go on a slosh through lolmilk that includes Alex Lifschitz's 3-step plan to destroy Gamergate and Chelsea briefly mentioning a "Kill Bill" list (with Eron Gjoni as her 'Bill').
The following was happening on Christmas Day 2014, as the timestamps from the logs should be around 16 hours ahead of where Chelsea was at the time (Seattle). Here we find most of the gang chimping and doing opposition research against Mike Cernovich and 8chan/Brennan on Christmas and planning on getting the media to signal boost their hit piece against 8chan.
[26/12/2014, 1:12:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: juicebro, down with the CP since 09!
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/05/criminalizing-comic-book-porn.html
[26/12/2014, 1:12:44 PM] Remy: Oh yeah KiA and GG are still trying to bail out the SS Child Porn
[26/12/2014, 1:12:59 PM] Remy: Uh oh did Chris find another gem?
[26/12/2014, 1:13:08 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's not a slam dunk
[26/12/2014, 1:13:15 PM] drinternetphd: ewwww
[26/12/2014, 1:13:18 PM] drinternetphd: ew ew ew ew ew
[26/12/2014, 1:13:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: but he definitely wants to protect the guy
[26/12/2014, 1:13:22 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck dude
[26/12/2014, 1:13:25 PM] Tesseract: wow what a fucking surprise
[26/12/2014, 1:13:31 PM] Tesseract: how is one person so shitty
[26/12/2014, 1:13:47 PM] Remy: He certainly seemed to think it would have been a great final paper
[26/12/2014, 1:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: god this makes me so fucking mad cause 5 fucking seconds of research and you see that drawn CP is so fucking often used to help actual molestors indoctrinate their victims
[26/12/2014, 1:13:53 PM] Remy: For his Constitutional Law course
[26/12/2014, 1:14:03 PM] Tesseract: does he just use a fucking dartboard with ways to be a shitty person written on it
[26/12/2014, 1:14:11 PM] Chris Kluwe: jiocebro? do research?! SURELY YOU JEST, MADAME
[26/12/2014, 1:14:13 PM] Remy: If only we could find a Constitutional Law professor willing to share a what I assume was a very skeevy final
[26/12/2014, 1:14:17 PM] Tesseract: "oh today I will defend CP"
[26/12/2014, 1:14:18 PM] drinternetphd: good point
[26/12/2014, 1:14:38 PM] drinternetphd: I should really talk to popehat more but I don't wanna bother him with this shit
[26/12/2014, 1:14:51 PM] Remy: I thought Popehat was three people?
[26/12/2014, 1:14:53 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, he was all "LOL NOPE" a couple days ago
[26/12/2014, 1:14:57 PM] Remy: Christian symbolism confuses me
[26/12/2014, 1:15:01 PM] Tesseract: haha
[26/12/2014, 1:15:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, I talk to most of them like, on a casual shooting the shit basis
[26/12/2014, 1:15:18 PM] Remy: lol Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:15:19 PM] drinternetphd: ken really dug Depression Quest so
[26/12/2014, 1:15:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have any major media outlets picked up on the 8chan & CP stuff?
[26/12/2014, 1:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, Ken doesn't like my "sensationalism" :p
[26/12/2014, 1:15:56 PM] Remy: I haven't pitched it to the folks I know at PBS newshour yet
[26/12/2014, 1:16:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: which is fine, you're allowed to not like the way i write things
[26/12/2014, 1:16:15 PM] Remy: B/C that relationship is really tenuous and I prefer to prove my value rather than appear clingy
[26/12/2014, 1:16:17 PM] Dan Olson: No, but it's starting to get in their ears. It's had enough hang time that they could grab it once the post-Christmas normal sets in
[26/12/2014, 1:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it is kind of christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:37 PM] drinternetphd: no one wants to write about child porn on christmas
[26/12/2014, 1:16:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha. True.
[26/12/2014, 1:16:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Merry Christmas, keep Baby Jesus away from Gaters. (sorry)
[26/12/2014, 1:16:59 PM] Dan Olson: which is basically what Lindsay was saying, too
[26/12/2014, 1:17:12 PM] Remy: What Zoe said
[26/12/2014, 1:17:16 PM] Remy: I actually was going to say
[26/12/2014, 1:17:30 PM] Remy: I pitched it to one of my journo friends and she basically said "I'm really trying not to touch that during the holidays"
[26/12/2014, 1:17:46 PM] Dan Olson: if this had been Jan 3rd or something like that then at least Vox/Slate/Jezzebel level outlets would have grabbed it hard right away
[26/12/2014, 1:18:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm fairly certain the MSM has an idea, i have quite a few people from msnbc, guardian, gawker, and other sites that jump on my feed on a daily basis
[26/12/2014, 1:18:45 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i've posted dan's piece along with "fuck these sick fucks"
[26/12/2014, 1:19:28 PM] drinternetphd: I'll reach out to the bbc/guardian after xmas
On Christmas, we also find Chelsea stalking Eron Gjoni and talking about how she's glad Liftshit is a Jew so she doesn't have to put on pants for Christmas.
[26/12/2014, 1:18:40 PM] drinternetphd: how the fuck did I not notice my ex was psychotic sooner [26/12/2014, 1:18:54 PM] Remy: The psychos are always the best at hiding it, Zoe
[26/12/2014, 1:18:58 PM] Remy: Especially the sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:19:33 PM] Remy: Three things I am terrified of. Heights, the sound of a geiger counter, and sociopaths
[26/12/2014, 1:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: what I need is some fuckin sheer white cloth because I built a prototype of a scarf that has LEDs and a color sensor in it and the LEDs change to the color of whatever you put against it
[26/12/2014, 1:26:59 PM] drinternetphd: I am so glad I'm dating someone jewish and I won't get screamed at for not putting on pants during christmas and just ordering chinese food instead
[26/12/2014, 1:30:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seattle folks, did you hear that Chick-fil-a is opening in Bellevue?
[26/12/2014, 1:30:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: i also don't plan on broadcasting the debate to anyone outside ghazi
[26/12/2014, 1:30:18 PM] drinternetphd: fuck chick-fil-a
[26/12/2014, 1:30:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I've never had it. Probably gonna try it out
[26/12/2014, 1:30:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: cool
[26/12/2014, 1:30:41 PM] Remy: Aww nobody is open
[26/12/2014, 1:30:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and donate more than I spent to some charity that supports LGBT*
Chelsea's family used to refer to transmissions as "trannies," leading to confusion when Chelsea encountered troons later on.
[26/12/2014, 1:32:17 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's crazy how much you don't realize growing up that you take for granted
[26/12/2014, 1:32:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG & scientology both think psychology isn't science
[26/12/2014, 1:32:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so there's that
[26/12/2014, 1:32:37 PM] Chris Kluwe: GG and Scientology are perfect soul mates
[26/12/2014, 1:32:38 PM] drinternetphd: tell me about it
[26/12/2014, 1:32:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: they should exchange thetans
[26/12/2014, 1:32:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ~
[26/12/2014, 1:32:50 PM] Dan Olson: the Ideology Must Be Pure
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] drinternetphd: when I was a kid growing up in a harley shop, the slur for trans people meant "transmission"
[26/12/2014, 1:32:52 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 1:32:58 PM] Remy: Adam Baldwin would have to hang out with Tom Cruise
[26/12/2014, 1:33:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Next month: TOM CRUISE COMES OUT IN SUPPORT OF GAMERGATE
[26/12/2014, 1:33:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: honestly, i'm surprised there haven't been more recruiting drives going on in KiA from various ne'er'do'wells other than the MRA crowd
[26/12/2014, 1:33:17 PM] drinternetphd: so when I left the small town where no one really knew trans people existed and found out that people were not being called transmissions with that slur it was really confusing
Chelsea was bitter because /pol/ had done a lot of speculation about whether she was a Jew. She also really hates Liana K. and claimed to have "talked with some of her former editors" and Liana is supposedly a "pretty huge misogynist".
[26/12/2014, 1:33:58 PM] Dan Olson: Most of the organized reactionary groups did some small recruiting then realized that GG is full of morons that resist all organization.
[26/12/2014, 1:34:08 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[26/12/2014, 1:34:15 PM] drinternetphd: ok ground zero before gamergate had a name
[26/12/2014, 1:34:20 PM] drinternetphd: half the shit was organized on/pol/
[26/12/2014, 1:34:31 PM] drinternetphd: there were so many threads dedicated to obsessing over if I was jewish or not
[26/12/2014, 1:35:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: retroactively funny thing- back when I was talking to Liana for my anonymous harassment story thing, she asked me not to mention anything about the anti-semetic stuff GG says
[26/12/2014, 1:35:49 PM] drinternetphd: fuck liana
[26/12/2014, 1:37:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this was back when she was still doing a PRETTY good job of coming off as legitimately clueless/"neutral"
[26/12/2014, 1:37:23 PM] drinternetphd: she was on the anti-anita bandwagon before it was cool too
[26/12/2014, 1:37:31 PM] drinternetphd: I've talked with some of her former editors
26/12/2014, 1:37:44 PM] drinternetphd: she apparently has been a pretty huge misogynist for years and years
Nicholas "Sarah Butts" Nyberg spent years talking about how he was a pedophile and supported pedophilia, among other things. Chelsea claimed she wants nothing to do with pedophiles, despite having Nyberg in her inner circle. Chelsea had bitched about it before, but she again mentioned how she "can't stand" Tumblr because some of them saw her as an abuser for what she did in the zoepost.
[26/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] drinternetphd: yo if there was a delicious food and pedos loved it pretty loudly I'd probably stop eating it
[26/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] drinternetphd: just in case
[26/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: along with "and burn it to the ground"
[26/12/2014, 1:38:41 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 1:38:49 PM] drinternetphd: pretty much any time my venn diagram circle gets near one of pedos I go screeching in the other direction
[26/12/2014, 1:43:07 PM] drinternetphd: I can't stand tumblr anymore cause of how many people have latched onto calling me an abuser
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, but this braintrust had pooled their money together on Christmas or Christmas Eve in order to buy an ad for Dan "Foldable Pedophile" Olson's 8chan hitpiece on reddit for le ebin trollin XD of the Gamergate subreddit. They were all also continuing to chimp over Mike Cernovich.
[26/12/2014, 2:13:00 PM] drinternetphd: omg we're laughing about the ad so hard
[26/12/2014, 2:13:01 PM] Chris Kluwe: hola
[26/12/2014, 2:13:02 PM] drinternetphd: alex just woke up
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] Chris Kluwe: this blog title is amazing
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2009/02/why-i-am-a-eugenicist.html
[26/12/2014, 2:35:06 PM] drinternetphd: yknow we were gonna watch mst3k but this pretty much seems like the same thing
Mercedes Carrera - a porn star who came out in support of Gamergate - was brought up and Chelsea thinks Mercedes is an "asshole". Chelsea also was sperging about something called AbleGamers and said she was arranging things behind the scenes to try to get a stream set up. It appears Mercedes/Gamergate had a donation drive going for AbleGamers and some anti-Gamergaters had chimped out and fucked it up.
[26/12/2014, 3:14:20 PM] Remy: So I've heard that a porn star has thrown their name into supporting GG for publicity
[26/12/2014, 3:14:24 PM] Remy: I wish them the best of luck
[26/12/2014, 3:14:26 PM] Peter Coffin: so ick
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Remy: In all their future stalkers
[26/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] drinternetphd: mercedes carerra
[26/12/2014, 3:14:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that was a while back
[26/12/2014, 3:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and she is an asshole
[26/12/2014, 3:14:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, she's been there for a while
[26/12/2014, 3:14:43 PM] Remy: Oh
[26/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's obvious she's doing it to get money from them
[26/12/2014, 3:14:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: and they're too stupid to notice
[26/12/2014, 3:14:53 PM] Remy: I don't consume as much porn as I do video games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "threw lot in with GG" makes "asshole" a given
[26/12/2014, 3:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: shes also been taking pot shots at me for having done porn which is just like
[26/12/2014, 3:14:59 PM] drinternetphd: excuse me while I lol to the moon
[26/12/2014, 3:15:09 PM] Remy: srsly?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:15:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: the best was when they tried to do that ablegamers thing
[26/12/2014, 3:15:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also why do all these scumbags have so much spendable cash?
[26/12/2014, 3:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: and she was like "I think i can make it happen, I just can't tell anyone it's for GG"
[26/12/2014, 3:15:30 PM] drinternetphd: actually, chris
[26/12/2014, 3:15:34 PM] Remy: SGG: Parents
[26/12/2014, 3:15:40 PM] drinternetphd: idk if you'd be down for this but you could potentially really help out
[26/12/2014, 3:15:41 PM] Dina : Peter ew
[26/12/2014, 3:15:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: sure, just lemme know
[26/12/2014, 3:15:50 PM] Remy: OH
[26/12/2014, 3:15:57 PM] drinternetphd: so like I've been quietly talking with ablegamers behind the scenes to try and organize a stream to make up for the shit they lost out on
[26/12/2014, 3:16:02 PM] Remy: SHE'S THE PORN STAR WHO TRIED TO HELP DECEIVE ABLEGAMERS?
[26/12/2014, 3:16:03 PM] drinternetphd: not a porn stream though
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: good plan
[26/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: What a terrible person
[26/12/2014, 3:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: like a charity let's play stream
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Remy: OMG Zoe that's an awesome idea
[26/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, cus i don't think my wife would approve :p
[26/12/2014, 3:16:24 PM] drinternetphd: like one that features work done by devs with disability or games with really good accessibility features
[26/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah, i'm totally down for that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:26 PM] Peter Coffin: nor would mine
[26/12/2014, 3:16:32 PM] Peter Coffin: I love the sound of that
[26/12/2014, 3:16:33 PM] drinternetphd: awesome awesome awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: I'll keep you in the loop then
[26/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they got hit super hard and got really disturbing death threats and shit
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Peter Coffin: chris every time I write your name I fucking say christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i actually did a lot of stuff for kids with Duchenne muscular dystrophy while i was in the league
[26/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i lot of them could really only interact through WoW and stuff like that
[26/12/2014, 3:17:20 PM] drinternetphd: and morale with them is kind of at an all time low which is fucking unacceptable because they do good work and their accesibility guidelines were followed closely when I was doing the DQ steam port
[26/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: so i definitely know where they're coming from
[26/12/2014, 3:17:24 PM] drinternetphd: yeah!
[26/12/2014, 3:17:26 PM] drinternetphd: ok cool
[26/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Dina : <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] drinternetphd: cause yeah they are really feeling the pain on that one
[26/12/2014, 3:17:36 PM] Dina : ^my contribution
[26/12/2014, 3:17:38 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 3:17:39 PM] Peter Coffin: chris to the rescue. not christ
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Peter Coffin: chris
[26/12/2014, 3:17:42 PM] Remy: This room is so awesome
[26/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] drinternetphd: so I was letting it be quiet and sort of doing stuff in the background while giving some time to cool down so GG doesn't hit it so hard when I finally launch it
[26/12/2014, 3:18:06 PM] drinternetphd: I got the desert bus streamers on board for helping with infrastructure too
[26/12/2014, 3:18:19 PM] Chris Kluwe: like i said, just lemme know and i'll do whatever i can
[26/12/2014, 3:18:23 PM] drinternetphd: awesome, thank you
[26/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Dan Olson: Oh, sweet, LRR are good folk. Graham's a sweetie.
[26/12/2014, 3:18:41 PM] drinternetphd: also fwiw I don't want to mention anything having to do with gamergate with this stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:18:47 PM] drinternetphd: obviously
[26/12/2014, 3:18:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[26/12/2014, 3:18:52 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's really not about that
[26/12/2014, 3:19:00 PM] drinternetphd: if anything I haven't given enough back to them for what they've done
[26/12/2014, 3:19:04 PM] drinternetphd: and I need to see to that
Chelsea powerleveled while chimping about JonTron and revealed she had intentionally sabotaged a 'game jam' reality TV show they were on.
26/12/2014, 3:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: the most humiliating moment in that game jam reality show we walked out on was that the guy who made nidhogg was one of the judges for the embarassing challenges they made us do
[26/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dan Olson: oh, god.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] drinternetphd: so i got to meet one of my heros while being forced to fingerpaint with jon tron's idiot ass in the background asking the british member of my team to say words that sounded funny with his accent
[26/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Dan Olson: Coming from the production side, that whole exposé filled me with cringe.
[26/12/2014, 3:35:31 PM] Peter Coffin: okay I have no idea what this reality show is but that sounds ridiculous
[26/12/2014, 3:35:35 PM] drinternetphd: oh god peter
[26/12/2014, 3:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: lemme link you
[26/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Dina : Jontron........
[26/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] drinternetphd: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/214364/Inside_the_disintegration_of_a_game_jam_reality_show.php
[26/12/2014, 3:36:45 PM] drinternetphd: I also wrote about it here http://gamasutra.com/blogs/ZoeQuinn...alking_Off_a_Reality_Show_About_Game_Jams.php
[26/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Peter Coffin: fuck maker studios
[26/12/2014, 3:37:13 PM] drinternetphd: also I contractually could not make fun of mountain dew for several months
[26/12/2014, 3:37:15 PM] Peter Coffin: seriously, I fucking hate them
[26/12/2014, 3:37:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I think everything about maker is disingenuous
[26/12/2014, 3:37:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I have watched it from the day it existed
[26/12/2014, 3:37:45 PM] Dina : I contractually can' talk about Gamergate I think
[26/12/2014, 3:37:48 PM] Dina : it's in Japanese
[26/12/2014, 3:37:52 PM] Dan Olson: How's Game Loading turning out? Anyone seen a current cut?
[26/12/2014, 3:37:57 PM] Dina : not gonna bother reviewing my contract
[26/12/2014, 3:38:05 PM] drinternetphd: when I finally could talk shit about mountain dew again this is what I did: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/488443912424398849
[26/12/2014, 3:38:11 PM] Peter Coffin: what about… mountain dew code red?
[26/12/2014, 3:38:33 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahah mountain poo
[26/12/2014, 3:38:39 PM] drinternetphd: I built it up with like 5 tweets too
[26/12/2014, 3:38:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: heh, every time i had a sponsorship offer in the league, i made sure to tell them "If your product sucks, i'm gonna make fun of it"
[26/12/2014, 3:38:53 PM] drinternetphd: dude that was totally my plan going in
[26/12/2014, 3:38:55 PM] drinternetphd: so
[26/12/2014, 3:39:07 PM] drinternetphd: I did it cause I was the only woman they asked and because I'm a competitive shithead I wanted the only girl to win
[26/12/2014, 3:39:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:27 PM] Peter Coffin: stern but fair
[26/12/2014, 3:39:31 PM] drinternetphd: and they clearly had no idea what they were doing or what jam games were so I was like "ok how can I game this system"
[26/12/2014, 3:39:36 PM] drinternetphd: "comedy. everyone gets comedy."
[26/12/2014, 3:39:51 PM] Chris Kluwe: except gators
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] drinternetphd: so I brought on davey wreden from the stanley parable and tom from surgeon simulator for my 2 people I could choose for my team
[26/12/2014, 3:39:54 PM] Peter Coffin: but then it turns out not everyone gets comedy
[26/12/2014, 3:39:55 PM] Chris Kluwe: ba dum tish
[26/12/2014, 3:40:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: eeeeesh
[26/12/2014, 3:40:10 PM] drinternetphd: with the arrangement that if it was a shitshow we openly mock it and troll the entire thing
[26/12/2014, 3:40:11 PM] Peter Coffin: haha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: people who don't get comedy are the worst
[26/12/2014, 3:40:23 PM] drinternetphd: we kept sneaking cans into shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:27 PM] drinternetphd: and deadeyeing the cameras
[26/12/2014, 3:40:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:40:30 PM] Peter Coffin: look back through my twitter image feed for that kind of fun
[26/12/2014, 3:40:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I kept switching glasses between shots
[26/12/2014, 3:40:38 PM] Chris Kluwe: CONTINUITY
[26/12/2014, 3:40:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: NOOOOOOOOO
[26/12/2014, 3:40:47 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:48 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:40:51 PM] Peter Coffin: that is amazing zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] drinternetphd: and we were slowly holding mt dew cans and bringing them up closer to our faces constantly
[26/12/2014, 3:40:59 PM] Peter Coffin: oh my god I would laugh so hard
[26/12/2014, 3:41:01 PM] drinternetphd: till they screamed at us to stop
[26/12/2014, 3:41:04 PM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
[26/12/2014, 3:41:14 PM] Peter Coffin: that is comedy for comedy people though zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:41:16 PM] drinternetphd: davey jumped in with both feet and was constantly chugging till he got sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:21 PM] drinternetphd: like actually sick
[26/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 3:41:31 PM] Chris Kluwe: this sounds like Tom goes to the Mayor or some shit
[26/12/2014, 3:41:32 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahaha
[26/12/2014, 3:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: I snuck into everyone's trailers and hid cans everywhere
[26/12/2014, 3:41:40 PM] Peter Coffin: I was just going to say this is tim and eric
[26/12/2014, 3:41:42 PM] drinternetphd: like in the toilets and under their pillows
[26/12/2014, 3:41:52 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that chris
[26/12/2014, 3:41:53 PM] drinternetphd: (this was before everyone else arrived cause I got there first)
[26/12/2014, 3:42:03 PM] Chris Kluwe: this could have been amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:12 PM] drinternetphd: yeah but it went too far into "total shit" territory
[26/12/2014, 3:42:15 PM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, that just sounds amazing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: ahhh
[26/12/2014, 3:42:19 PM] drinternetphd: we weren't even scheduled to touch our computers till day 5
[26/12/2014, 3:42:20 PM] Remy: hold on I've been AFK lemme read and catch up if everyone is laughing
[26/12/2014, 3:42:24 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s maker doing a reality show
[26/12/2014, 3:42:27 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:42:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: a game jam
[26/12/2014, 3:42:32 PM] drinternetphd: also jontron was impossible to work with
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Peter Coffin: YOU CAN NOT HAVE A GOOD REALITY SHOW FROM MAKER
[26/12/2014, 3:42:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no computers till day 5?
[26/12/2014, 3:42:42 PM] drinternetphd: he screamed at me on camera for like 5 minutes cause I asked if he needed help
[26/12/2014, 3:42:55 PM] Dina : wow
[26/12/2014, 3:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: and a lot of other shit I don't want to get into
[26/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Dina : what a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:43:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: sounds like a douche
[26/12/2014, 3:43:09 PM] drinternetphd: but he made it impossible for me to do anything cause he'd just shout over me
[26/12/2014, 3:43:10 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah he seems like a doucher
[26/12/2014, 3:43:18 PM] Dina : I had to politely email him for work and I cringed the whole way
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] Dina : well, his reps at Normal Boots
[26/12/2014, 3:43:26 PM] drinternetphd: and davey, tom, and I came up with our game seperately so when we were explaining shit to him he'd like
[26/12/2014, 3:43:32 PM] drinternetphd: hate everything I said
[26/12/2014, 3:43:36 PM] drinternetphd: but when one of them rephrased it he'd love it
[26/12/2014, 3:43:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: guhhhhhhhh
[26/12/2014, 3:43:47 PM] Peter Coffin: so he’s stupid too?
[26/12/2014, 3:43:49 PM] Peter Coffin: nice
[26/12/2014, 3:43:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "Here, let me put that into Manglish for you"
[26/12/2014, 3:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: and like be sucking their dicks over their games like a total brownoser
[26/12/2014, 3:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: during lunch I got an email from a fan that made me a little emotional
[26/12/2014, 3:44:14 PM] drinternetphd: it was this super sweet thing where they're like "your game saved my life" and stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:44:21 PM] Remy: AWWW ZOE YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF MT DEW
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] drinternetphd: and I was talking with davey about it cause that just fucking gets me right in the heart
[26/12/2014, 3:44:27 PM] Remy: IT'S GAAAAAAAAMERR FUUUUUUEEEEELL
[26/12/2014, 3:44:39 PM] drinternetphd: and jontron just butts in and is like OH YEAH PEOPLE TELL ME THAT ALL THE TIME BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT
[26/12/2014, 3:44:43 PM] Chris Kluwe: wtf
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] drinternetphd: and we were all like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:44 PM] Chris Kluwe: like
[26/12/2014, 3:44:48 PM] Chris Kluwe: why would you even say that
[26/12/2014, 3:44:53 PM] Tesseract: GAMER FOOD http://www.gamerfood.com/
[26/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Peter Coffin: your post on it is super interesting zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:45:17 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who worked at maker who was writing about all this as their embedded journalist was like "oh yeah he does that, we call it "jontronning out"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:18 PM] Chris Kluwe: "HEY I SEE YOU DID SOMETHING GOOD WELL LET ME JUST SHIT ALL OVER THAT GRNKK HNNGHH"
[26/12/2014, 3:45:24 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:45:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: and no one calls him on his shit?
[26/12/2014, 3:45:37 PM] Remy: So this Jon Tron guy sounds exactly as shitty as I dismissed him as upon first glance
[26/12/2014, 3:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he's just a worthless garbage infant and him tweeting out gangbang comics of me was hardly surprising
[26/12/2014, 3:45:53 PM] drinternetphd: chris: pretty much. big name let's players are allowed to do whatever they want
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
Chelsea also talked about wanting to sue TotalBiscuit but decided not to because he has cancer and she didn't "want to go after him financially."
[26/12/2014, 3:45:58 PM] drinternetphd: look at totalbiscuit.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:09 PM] Chris Kluwe: well that's fucking depressing
[26/12/2014, 3:46:18 PM] Remy: Honestly I'm surprised you can't sue TB
[26/12/2014, 3:46:21 PM] Remy: He's British, right?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: you would be shocked at how many indies have told me during this whole thing they wish they could stand up about it but are afraid to cause they have power.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:28 PM] Remy: He'd have to prove that he HASN'T damaged you
[26/12/2014, 3:46:33 PM] Peter Coffin: TB lives in the US
[26/12/2014, 3:46:37 PM] Remy: Oh.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Dina : um wait what
[26/12/2014, 3:46:39 PM] Remy: Well fuck me
[26/12/2014, 3:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not suing a dude with cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:46:44 PM] Dina : Zoe no
[26/12/2014, 3:46:48 PM] Remy: He has cancer?
[26/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] Dina : they have no power
[26/12/2014, 3:46:50 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
[26/12/2014, 3:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: really
[26/12/2014, 3:46:55 PM] Peter Coffin: he has fucking cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:47:02 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah no one could win that
[26/12/2014, 3:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: dina they have power because a lot of people think they do and are too afraid to do anything
[26/12/2014, 3:47:07 PM] Dina : wait so what? people with cancer can't be assholes?!
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] drinternetphd: no they can
[26/12/2014, 3:47:10 PM] Remy: I hate it when people with cancer are still shitty. The movies never show you that part
[26/12/2014, 3:47:13 PM] Tesseract: does he still have cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] drinternetphd: but they also have medical bills like crazy
[26/12/2014, 3:47:17 PM] Dina : this is the same bullshit as hey let old people be racist
[26/12/2014, 3:47:19 PM] Dina : fuck no
[26/12/2014, 3:47:21 PM] drinternetphd: no no no like
[26/12/2014, 3:47:26 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't want to go after him financially
[26/12/2014, 3:47:36 PM] Quinnae: That's very good of you, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I do agree, that is very admirable
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Dina : You're a better person than me Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 3:47:48 PM] Remy: Yeah I'm not gonna talk you outta that one Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:47:49 PM] drinternetphd: like, his family doesn't deserve that and the US medical care system is fucking broken
[26/12/2014, 3:47:58 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s also in public opinion, that’s not a winnable case
[26/12/2014, 3:48:08 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fck yes it is
[26/12/2014, 3:48:09 PM] Remy: But still what's his problem. Other than the cancer.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:24 PM] drinternetphd: right which is why the way to push back is culturally
[26/12/2014, 3:48:26 PM] drinternetphd: not financially.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:30 PM] Remy: Must be affecting his judgement
[26/12/2014, 3:48:35 PM] Peter Coffin: completely agree
[26/12/2014, 3:48:36 PM] drinternetphd: I'm not saying he gets carte blanche at all.
[26/12/2014, 3:48:37 PM] Dina : he's a white male with entitlement issues who doesn't see race but sees people (tm)
[26/12/2014, 3:48:45 PM] Remy: XD
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] drinternetphd: but he should absolutely still be called out and have to defend his horseshit
[26/12/2014, 3:48:47 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Peter Coffin: take me to church again
[26/12/2014, 3:49:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: i have no problem calling an asshole an asshole, even if he has cancer
[26/12/2014, 3:49:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah, precisely.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:06 PM] Dina : same
[26/12/2014, 3:49:09 PM] Peter Coffin: samesies
[26/12/2014, 3:49:14 PM] drinternetphd: ugh I actually tried to talk to him privately about all this
[26/12/2014, 3:49:15 PM] Remy: I've already done that? So sure I'm already in this boat.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:19 PM] Dina : this is like the Hotwheels shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:20 PM] drinternetphd: he had a mutual friend reach out
[26/12/2014, 3:49:25 PM] Dina : "but he's disabled!!"
[26/12/2014, 3:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: like one I super respect and trust
[26/12/2014, 3:49:31 PM] Dina : but he's also an asshole.
[26/12/2014, 3:49:36 PM] Remy: Yeah I have no problem feeling like Hotwheels is a piece of shit
[26/12/2014, 3:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he sent me an email and it was just more BS accusations and thinly veiled threats
[26/12/2014, 3:49:45 PM] Remy: Or whatever his name is
[26/12/2014, 3:50:05 PM] Dina : ugh Zoe
[26/12/2014, 3:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: so I responded being like "Jon, thank you for reaching out, can we talk about this like two people in private trying to get on the same page"
[26/12/2014, 3:50:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Freed Brennan
[26/12/2014, 3:50:17 PM] drinternetphd: and like, trying to set the tone as conversational and sincere
[26/12/2014, 3:50:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Fred even
[26/12/2014, 3:50:29 PM] drinternetphd: and he sent back more fucking accusations including that idiotic "personal paypal" argument
[26/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] drinternetphd: so I just stopped responding.
[26/12/2014, 3:50:35 PM] Dina : NO POOPIHEAD GIRL U HAS COOTIES
[26/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I am very much in favor of using the real names of those who have them out there
Chelsea supposedly has a "white house contact" which she bitched about Gamergate/Cernovich/whatever to (He is named later on as Mark DeLoura). The Foldable Pedophile claims he found pedophile grooming books and Jake Alley aka SecretGamerGirl said he needed to talk to his therapist about the "snuff stuff" he's seen. Chelsea said her therapist doesn't know what to tell her when she comes sperging about Gamergate and supposedly found Chelsea's Wikipedia page which (despite being run by white knights like Ryulong with nothing negative allowed) allegedly caused the therapist to realize that everything Chelsea had been crying about was "really just that fucked up."
[26/12/2014, 3:55:40 PM] Dan Olson: When I was researching I found a bunch of stuff that I just couldn't put in the article as examples. I tried to make it remotely palatable and it was impossible.
[26/12/2014, 3:55:57 PM] Dan Olson: It wasn't, like, hardcore CP, but in a way it was almost worse
[26/12/2014, 3:56:06 PM] drinternetphd: dan I feel you. I had a similar experience when I was pulling shit together for patreon and my white house contact
[26/12/2014, 3:56:31 PM] Dan Olson: someone had written and illustrated this whole series of books written and styled like kids books, Dick and Jane style
[26/12/2014, 3:56:44 PM] Dan Olson: but the whole thing was grooming and pedo normalization
[26/12/2014, 3:56:47 PM] Peter Coffin: ...
[26/12/2014, 3:57:01 PM] Peter Coffin: I believe it but I don’t want to
[26/12/2014, 3:57:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's part of a fucking horrible part of the human psyche, and sometimes all we can do is hope to be our best so that no one else goes down that hole
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've thankfully managed to generally avoid the child porn for the most part, but one of these days I really do need to break down in front of a therapist about the snuff stuff.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. that's like finding someone's murder tools.
[26/12/2014, 3:57:27 PM] Remy: oof
[26/12/2014, 3:57:31 PM] Remy: That's rough, SGG
[26/12/2014, 3:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: SGG: good luck mine is like "this is too fucked up and I don't know what to tell you sorry here's your adderall"
[26/12/2014, 3:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: well, at first she was like politely nodding but then I came back for a session and she was like "ok so I independently discovered gamergate" (cause I hadn't used the name of it)
[26/12/2014, 3:58:23 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: particularly the pet related stuff
[26/12/2014, 3:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: and she found my wikipedia page and was like "jesus fuck that's my client"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:12 PM] drinternetphd: and was like "I couldn't understand before and thought I was missing something but no things are really just that fucked up"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I went to therapy after the fake girlfriend shit and they literally did the whole bootstraps thing with me
[26/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Peter Coffin: and I was like “well fuck this"
[26/12/2014, 3:59:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: warning, that shit's realllllllllll gross
[26/12/2014, 4:00:24 PM] Peter Coffin: therapy almost pisses me off now, I wanted help. now it’s like “I paid some shithead to not do anything” and they literally were like someone who didn’t believe in medication
[26/12/2014, 4:00:28 PM] Peter Coffin: it pissed me off
[26/12/2014, 4:00:54 PM] drinternetphd: something I cut from Depression Quest: the shit slog of trying to find a therapist that works for you
[26/12/2014, 4:03:20 PM] drinternetphd: what I do is go to a clinic my limited state insurance covers, talk for like 5 minutes, get my adderal prescription (since they can't prescribe more than one month at a time so I have to go back for each renewal) and go get it filled
As if you weren't already aware, the anti-Gamergate rat king is full of the mentally ill. They also continued stalking Cernovich's past.
[26/12/2014, 4:04:01 PM] Peter Coffin: zoe that would be fine with me. I don’t want to fucking talk anymore
[26/12/2014, 4:04:10 PM] Peter Coffin: not to be combative
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Peter Coffin: I realized that sounded aggressie
[26/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] Dina : I believe that, Chris
[26/12/2014, 4:04:18 PM] drinternetphd: no I'm kinda the same
[26/12/2014, 4:04:19 PM] Remy: I just want something for my anxiety
[26/12/2014, 4:04:20 PM] Peter Coffin: aggressive
[26/12/2014, 4:04:23 PM] drinternetphd: talking stopped helping a long time ago
[26/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: And then I wanted to be screened for autism
[26/12/2014, 4:04:45 PM] Dina : and I'm sure none of these people are in Japan ahahahaha Mental stigma in Japan is horrifying
[26/12/2014, 4:04:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[26/12/2014, 4:04:55 PM] Dina : I'm surprised I haven't offed myself
[26/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry dina
[26/12/2014, 4:05:08 PM] drinternetphd: my friend who did JET said that any time he tried to get healthcare on that front they just told him to lose weight
[26/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Dan Olson: I'm aggressive with my Ativan. I just tell the doctor at the clinic what I'm there for, no faffing about talking about my anxiety hoping that they'll feel it merits something that strong.
[26/12/2014, 4:05:14 PM] drinternetphd: (he's not really that big)
[26/12/2014, 4:05:20 PM] Chris Kluwe: whoa. has juicebro ever mentioned being married?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:24 PM] drinternetphd: no?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:28 PM] Dina : Zoe yeah every year in the mandatory health check I was told I'm obese
[26/12/2014, 4:05:30 PM] drinternetphd: I know he says girlfriend a lot
[26/12/2014, 4:05:32 PM] drinternetphd:
[26/12/2014, 4:05:38 PM] Dina : yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Remy: I thought he was divorced?
[26/12/2014, 4:05:49 PM] Chris Kluwe: he must be
[26/12/2014, 4:05:52 PM] Chris Kluwe: this is from 2008
[26/12/2014, 4:05:53 PM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/12/why-you-should-send-thank-you-notes.html
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Peter Coffin: he has that “no one can handle me” vibe to him
[26/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: and he references his spouse
[26/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Dina : good on her getting out
[26/12/2014, 4:06:16 PM] Peter Coffin: that “oh my god literally anyone would hate me” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:22 PM] Peter Coffin: that “I have raped people” vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:28 PM] Remy: I swear he's mentioned being divorced before.
[26/12/2014, 4:06:32 PM] Dina : definitely the I have raped people vibe
[26/12/2014, 4:06:44 PM] Remy: I almost wanna say he's one of those douchebags that has to have a "Freedom Anniversary Party" on the day of his divorce
[26/12/2014, 4:06:51 PM] Remy: Y'know, to prove he's doing alright
[26/12/2014, 4:06:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "hey now that never went to trial"
[26/12/2014, 4:06:58 PM] Peter Coffin: I agree
[26/12/2014, 4:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that man is disgusting
[26/12/2014, 4:07:14 PM] drinternetphd: literally nothing redeeming
It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there was a webcomic called Shredded Moose that made a comic about Blowy Zoe chomping on someone's dick. The creator of the comic had later tweeted at Brad Wardell and asked if Wardell was hiring, and was told to send in a resume if he was interested in working there. The two events were completely unrelated. On Christmas, the rat king was chimping about Wardell, and Lifshit said he wished they had "pocketed the Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory. (They had coordinated harassment of Wardell earlier in the month)
[26/12/2014, 4:12:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, it's already amazing that we got GG to bed down with Shredded Fucking Moose
[26/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I watched the movie today, thinking I was hate watching it, but laughed a few times. I can still pick it apart with a laundry list of horrible shit but it was less of a shit fest than I expected. that being said, being less of a shit fest is not a desirable thing
[26/12/2014, 4:12:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: i.e. literally the worst webcomic on the entire planet
[26/12/2014, 4:12:59 PM] Remy: Oh my god
[26/12/2014, 4:13:09 PM] Remy: And when Wardell offered him a job and then promptly died on that hill?
[26/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yyyyyyep
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] drinternetphd: wardell talked with my ex about it too.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:19 PM] Remy: holy shit
[26/12/2014, 4:13:30 PM] drinternetphd: cause my ex can't not jump in and make this all about him
[26/12/2014, 4:13:32 PM] Peter Coffin: wardell seems like a fucking weirdo
[26/12/2014, 4:13:34 PM] Remy: I had zero doubt at that point that he was an eager contributor
[26/12/2014, 4:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: Yeah, I thought I'd bottomed out with crap like Chuggworth and Sexy Losers, but I hadn't heard of Shredded Moose before all this.
[26/12/2014, 4:13:39 PM] Remy: To the vitriol and abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:13:47 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Truth be told, I wish we had pocketed that Wardell crap for a more appropriate time/solid victory but that man is a garbage fire
[26/12/2014, 4:14:06 PM] Remy: I hope all of his employees have updated their resumes and sent them out
[26/12/2014, 4:14:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: You can't all go work at Stardock, chucklefucks.
[26/12/2014, 4:14:33 PM] Remy: I can't remember if I went through with it or not
[26/12/2014, 4:14:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Wait Zoe do you have bradwardell.jpeg handy
[26/12/2014, 4:14:46 PM] Remy: But I wanted to try and get Slade Villena hired at Stardock
[26/12/2014, 4:14:54 PM] Remy: Kind of like getting Jar Jar Binks hired at the Death Star?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:02 PM] drinternetphd: lol alex how did you know I was loding it up
[26/12/2014, 4:15:03 PM] Remy: Let the snake eat its own asshole somewhere else
[26/12/2014, 4:15:22 PM] Chris Kluwe: speaking of Slade
[26/12/2014, 4:15:24 PM] Dina : Are you guys sky ping each other from the same location?
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: what do you think his reaction would be
[26/12/2014, 4:15:29 PM] Dan Olson: "People need to be reporting this article, IMO. This is distributing blurred and easily exploitable images. Report it." MORE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE CSI IS A DOCUMENTARY!
[26/12/2014, 4:15:32 PM] Dina : cause that's cute as f
[26/12/2014, 4:15:34 PM] Chris Kluwe: if i linked him this?
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/10/why-im-not-in-t.html
[26/12/2014, 4:15:43 PM] drinternetphd: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2804kef&s=6#.VH97UItC1Po
[26/12/2014, 4:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: wardell.jpg
[26/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Remy: I have to read it first
[26/12/2014, 4:16:04 PM] Remy: lol
[26/12/2014, 4:16:11 PM] drinternetphd: dina: maybe
[26/12/2014, 4:16:20 PM] Peter Coffin: slide might flip out
[26/12/2014, 4:16:25 PM] Peter Coffin: Slide Villain
[26/12/2014, 4:16:26 PM] Remy: We have to do that when we're ready to release that we know about these blogs
[26/12/2014, 4:16:32 PM] Remy: As soon as we go public with this
[26/12/2014, 4:16:38 PM] Remy: We HAVE to send this blog post to Villena
[26/12/2014, 4:16:42 PM] Chris Kluwe: oh man
[26/12/2014, 4:16:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: it'llbe so good
[26/12/2014, 4:16:56 PM] Dina : Next you're gonna tell me Alex is your known associate
[26/12/2014, 4:16:59 PM] drinternetphd: never
[26/12/2014, 4:17:10 PM] drinternetphd: never reveal the wutang secret
Chelsea went on a chimpout over Eron Gjoni supposedly planning a sequel to the zoepost, and was massively butthurt because people actually read the thing and believed Chelsea to be an abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:16 PM] drinternetphd: like people still believe my ex was an innocent victim of abuse and was shocked when 4chan "found" his post. even though I have the threads he was posting shit in and calling up hotels trying to find out if I had ever stayed there to give them more info.
[26/12/2014, 4:19:56 PM] drinternetphd: people partially still believe it because they don't like the one person who has debunked it
[26/12/2014, 4:20:00 PM] drinternetphd: and I can't do it without risking court issues
[26/12/2014, 4:20:06 PM] drinternetphd: even though I have proof of everything
[26/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Dina : fuck
[26/12/2014, 4:20:46 PM] Dan Olson: They don't want to disbelieve it, so they will, by definition, hate whoever debunks it.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:48 PM] Remy: Zero of that POS's actions have ever provided a scrap of humanity to inspect. I have looked just to entertain the most distant fucking notion and I have found zero reason to believe that he is not an obsessed abuser.
[26/12/2014, 4:20:56 PM] Dina : how about a class action lawsuit from all the people they've hurt?
[26/12/2014, 4:21:16 PM] Dina : so that you're not alone in the line of fire
[26/12/2014, 4:21:19 PM] drinternetphd: like
[26/12/2014, 4:21:20 PM] drinternetphd: https://idledillettante.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/c0deebc4977b41163de1b0eac0e398f5.png
[26/12/2014, 4:21:39 PM] Dina : sigh
[26/12/2014, 4:21:47 PM] Dina : humanity levels depleting
[26/12/2014, 4:22:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m archiving all the links in the juicebro trello card
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] drinternetphd: and since he's working on a fucking sequel I'm like
[26/12/2014, 4:22:11 PM] Remy: nice
[26/12/2014, 4:22:19 PM] drinternetphd: kinda pissed no one seems to have gotten the truth out
[26/12/2014, 4:22:32 PM] Dina : uh sequel?
[26/12/2014, 4:22:34 PM] drinternetphd: cause it's gonna fucking suck to have a round 2 of horrific fucking public abuse
[26/12/2014, 4:22:36 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[26/12/2014, 4:22:47 PM] Remy: I was disappointed in the "middle-of-the-road" pandering so many journalists took
[26/12/2014, 4:23:05 PM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think we'll see that again
[26/12/2014, 4:23:12 PM] Chris Kluwe: now they know the shit that comes of it
[26/12/2014, 4:23:21 PM] Chris Kluwe: and i'll definitely be calling them out if they try
[26/12/2014, 4:23:31 PM] Remy: Every lukewarm article seemed to add another resinous layer of legitimacy to this awful hate mob
[26/12/2014, 4:23:49 PM] drinternetphd: like fuck I have the 4chan threads he was posting in
[26/12/2014, 4:23:52 PM] drinternetphd: the amas he did on reddit
[26/12/2014, 4:23:56 PM] drinternetphd: the ama he did in the chatroom
[26/12/2014, 4:24:13 PM] Remy: Everyone who wasn't panning it was a two-sided political debate was just throwing up their arms going "Computers? Must be a tech issue"
[26/12/2014, 4:24:15 PM] drinternetphd: and people still believe this "whoopsie abuse victim" shit because he struck first
[26/12/2014, 4:24:41 PM] Dina : uuugh
[26/12/2014, 4:24:50 PM] Chris Kluwe: "I'm Mike Cernovich, and it's about ethics in linking to Gawker!"
http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2008/09/sarah-palins-e.html
[26/12/2014, 4:24:58 PM] drinternetphd: like using the fucking right keyword dismisses any observation
[26/12/2014, 4:25:03 PM] Dina : yeah I remember that awful one guy hitting me at the beginning of GG like "how does it feel to support a rapist and abuser?"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:20 PM] Dina : and I was like "I WOULDN'T KNOW SUCK MY DICK CONSENSUALLY"
[26/12/2014, 4:25:23 PM] drinternetphd: which was fucking planned in those threads
[26/12/2014, 4:26:01 PM] Dina : sorry I'm not witty when angry Zoe
[26/12/2014, 4:26:06 PM] Peter Coffin: all juicebro blog posts on trello have been archived
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] Quinnae: I've talked to a lot of people in feminist circles who are very frustrated that some loud "SJWs" have taken Eron at his word because he used the right codewords. It keys into a larger problem I and others have identified in activist communities, where language becomes more important than the thing it describes.
[26/12/2014, 4:26:12 PM] drinternetphd: no no it's fine I'm just so fucking angry and let down
[26/12/2014, 4:26:14 PM] Peter Coffin: chris are you adding them to trello or no
[26/12/2014, 4:26:16 PM] Remy: <3
[26/12/2014, 4:26:17 PM] Dina : also I refused to read your ex's textual masturbation
[26/12/2014, 4:26:26 PM] drinternetphd: thank you...
[26/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] drinternetphd: god that's like the shittiest part of this for me
[26/12/2014, 4:26:57 PM] Dina : I'm really sorry he put you through hell. He should be rotting in jail. I'm so sorry.
[26/12/2014, 4:27:05 PM] Peter Coffin: I haven’t read it either, it just seemed perverse to do. also was way before I knew much about you. there was literally a time I was fighting against these people without even knowing what it was about
[26/12/2014, 4:27:06 PM] drinternetphd: like GG is horrific enough as is but for me particularly it's fucking domestic abuse because I finally cut him out of my life
Chelsea was "so fucking mad" that the hudge at the last Van Valkenburg vs. Gjoni court session had told her to stop sperging out over the internet, which Chelsea says is her "workplace."
[26/12/2014, 4:43:49 PM] drinternetphd: I'm still so fucking mad that the magistrate told me the harassment didn't count cause it was online
[26/12/2014, 4:44:02 PM] drinternetphd: and if I didn't want to get harassed I should get offline forever and switch careers
[26/12/2014, 4:44:06 PM] Dan Olson: I would be livid at that, Zoe.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: that's something the legal system really needs to get into gear and address
[26/12/2014, 4:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[26/12/2014, 4:44:14 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that makes me mad too. I can’t believe someone said that to you
[26/12/2014, 4:44:16 PM] Chris Kluwe: because the internet isn't going away anytime soon
[26/12/2014, 4:44:19 PM] drinternetphd: nope
[26/12/2014, 4:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: and it's my fucking workplace
[26/12/2014, 4:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: "get a new career" should not be fucking advice
Here we have sociopath Awex Lifshit describing his 3-step plan to take down Gamergate, with Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopolous named as their primary targets along with 8chan.
[27/12/2014, 2:09:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: As far as the article goes, I'm curious to see if anyone picks it up before anything is said about it. Certainly not an extinction event.
[27/12/2014, 2:11:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: But, if you want to well and truly make it near impossible for them to operate, you gotta
1. Take GG's breeding grounds offline (principally 8chan)
2. Give proverbial black eyes to key figureheads in ways that prevent them from exerting power and
3. Get the entities whose silence enabled GG to finally take a stand.
[27/12/2014, 2:12:08 AM] drinternetphd: that's kind of what we've been working for
[27/12/2014, 2:12:42 AM] drinternetphd: at least now that things are less survival mode (though still fairly in that territory)
[27/12/2014, 2:13:38 AM] Athena Hollow: definitely.
[27/12/2014, 2:15:19 AM] drinternetphd: salt the earth
[27/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It looks more and more like we actually stand a shot at number 1 if Dan's article gets picked up by anyone, but we have to hope it remains evergreen as the holidays wind down.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Number two, well, there are a few key players but plans for each of them.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Three, well, that's longer term.
[27/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Ian Cheong: Does number two involve grabbing RogueStar by the scruff of his neck and rubbing his nose in shit?
[27/12/2014, 2:18:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It may involve the FBI paying him a visit (being hopeful here)
[27/12/2014, 2:19:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Roguestar is thoroughly fucked, as is PressFart, both shadows of their former presence and a joke even by GG's standards these days.
[27/12/2014, 2:19:34 AM] Peter Coffin: I played Rogue's demo today
[27/12/2014, 2:19:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Big players in my mind are Cernovich and Milo, both of whom we have vague directions for.
Chelsea also chimped out about TotalBiscuit, again, because he said something negative about Twine once and Chelsea thought she might "take a swing" at him next time she saw him.
[27/12/2014, 9:34:43 PM] Rob: time to scan total biscuit's twitter for stuff to make fun of, because I'm in a mean mood
[27/12/2014, 9:36:03 PM] drinternetphd: I wish I didn't have standards sometimes
[27/12/2014, 9:36:14 PM] drinternetphd: else I would post our email convo
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] drinternetphd: I hate how so many of my friends want to speak out against him but are afraid to
[27/12/2014, 9:41:24 PM] Rob: And I'm like "Then why don';t you get the fuck out and go back there?"
[27/12/2014, 9:41:32 PM] drinternetphd: also fuck him for shitting on twine
[27/12/2014, 9:41:35 PM] drinternetphd: fuck him fuck him fuck him
[27/12/2014, 9:41:42 PM] Remy: TB talking about US probably sounds just like American bros talking about Britain. fart sounds
[27/12/2014, 9:41:46 PM] Remy: lol
[27/12/2014, 9:41:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I hate what he said about Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:41:57 PM] Rob: Oh, but see zoe, what he REALLY meant was that greedo shot first and midichlorians are what gives youtube reviewers like him their special powers
[27/12/2014, 9:42:05 PM] drinternetphd: the amount of good twine has done for people makes me worry that the next time I see him I will take a swing
[27/12/2014, 9:42:08 PM] Remy: Of course he can shit on Twine.
[27/12/2014, 9:42:11 PM] Remy: He doesn't make anything
[27/12/2014, 9:42:15 PM] Remy: He just has opinions
[27/12/2014, 9:42:22 PM] drinternetphd: I wish this was pre gamergate
[27/12/2014, 9:42:27 PM] drinternetphd: cause I can't say what I want to
[27/12/2014, 9:42:29 PM] Rob: I kind of want to go to MAG since it's near where I live, but I don't think anyone I'd want to meet would go there
[27/12/2014, 9:42:33 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to tweet like
[27/12/2014, 9:42:47 PM] drinternetphd: "if you marginalize a game engine over a stupid grudge with a woman you've never met maybe shut up forever"
[27/12/2014, 9:42:48 PM] drinternetphd: or
[27/12/2014, 9:43:03 PM] drinternetphd: rephrase what he said to me when he first shat the bed and came after me in august
[27/12/2014, 9:43:10 PM] drinternetphd: "you didn't seem to have a problem with it when you were promoting my game"
[27/12/2014, 9:43:20 PM] Rob: HAHAHAH
[27/12/2014, 9:43:33 PM] Rob: Zoe, if you want, if he shittalks twine again
[27/12/2014, 9:43:36 PM] Rob: I could say something like that.
[27/12/2014, 9:43:43 PM] drinternetphd: yeah go nuts I don't fucking care
[27/12/2014, 9:43:45 PM] Rob: "You didn't seem to have a problem with Twine when you were promoting Twine games."
[27/12/2014, 9:43:51 PM] drinternetphd: I can't do it cause my beef bandwidth is maxed
[27/12/2014, 9:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: tho he will likely respond with some variation of calling me a bitch so w/e
[27/12/2014, 9:44:11 PM] Rob: Yeah I don't want to direct more hate your way even by proxy
[27/12/2014, 9:44:25 PM] drinternetphd: fucking youtube
[27/12/2014, 9:44:28 PM] Rob: I can just keep attacking him in general. I find it funny b/c his fans randomly find it and start tagging him in to try to intimidate me.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:32 PM] drinternetphd: making mountains out of molehills just with people
[27/12/2014, 9:44:46 PM] Rob: I need to start making more videos again
[27/12/2014, 9:44:48 PM] Ian Cheong: It's a shitshow.
[27/12/2014, 9:44:52 PM] Rob: Since YT is basically gamergate dominated
[27/12/2014, 9:45:07 PM] Rob: And I feel bad leaving Zennistrad out there all by his lonesome.
[27/12/2014, 9:45:17 PM] Rob: I may turn a small paper I did on gamergate into the basis for a script.
[27/12/2014, 9:47:39 PM] drinternetphd: what's a good synonym for "mob"
[27/12/2014, 9:47:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Hmmm
[27/12/2014, 9:47:48 PM] drinternetphd: yt isn't gg dominated
Chelsea was writhing something for BoingBoing which meant it "counts like a lot" according to Chelsea. Chelsea planned to include the Foldable Pedo's article and the Southern Poverty Law Center's 'Hatewatch.'
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] drinternetphd: I only touch on gg to make a point about the culture at large but I like having a lot of synonyms
[27/12/2014, 9:51:02 PM] Remy: host* not hose BTW
[27/12/2014, 9:51:05 PM] drinternetphd: I don't like repeating words
[27/12/2014, 9:51:15 PM] Remy: I don't know if Skype or Apple hates me, but fuck both of them without lube
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: super rough thing I read once and haven't done a thing about
[27/12/2014, 9:51:18 PM] drinternetphd: Over the last few months, the struggle for the culture surrounding the production and enjoyment of video games that has been bubbling under the surface for years has seemingly come to a head. For the uninitiated, an online mob so bad it has been followed as a hate group has been raging against progressive voices in the industry hiding behind the dogwhistle politic of “ethics in games journalism”. I’ve watched it do so firsthand as the horde made me their Franz Ferdinand of their culture war. All of the abuse, conservative grandstanding, and defense of child pornography aside, one of the more unfortunate elements of this whole debacule has been that they’ve been able to sweep up otherwise well-meaning, functional people with a salient point: there are massive problems within the games industry, but none of them are being addressed by the throng of screaming 4channers.
[27/12/2014, 9:52:05 PM] drinternetphd: god I forgot how much beer helps me write I am like a fucking drunken monk but with living instead of fighting
[27/12/2014, 9:52:39 PM] drinternetphd: paragraph 2 is touching on some of the issues that have arisen as a result of a bloated and garbage mainstream games industry
[27/12/2014, 9:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: and then paragraph 3 starts drawing comparisons between that and the music industry of the 1970s and 1980s that grave rise to the punk scene
[27/12/2014, 9:53:01 PM] drinternetphd: and why games needs more of that
[27/12/2014, 9:57:11 PM] drinternetphd: also adding this to the first paragraph
[27/12/2014, 9:57:12 PM] drinternetphd: "What these people don’t realize, largely due to the opaqueness that has been fostered by the industry, is that they’re laughably late on the scene and are even attacking those who have been fighting against harmful industry standards."
[27/12/2014, 9:57:25 PM] drinternetphd: I am on fire
[27/12/2014, 9:57:30 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, this is good.
[27/12/2014, 9:57:36 PM] drinternetphd: this is for boingboing
[27/12/2014, 9:57:37 PM] drinternetphd: so it counts
[27/12/2014, 9:57:39 PM] drinternetphd: like a lot
[27/12/2014, 9:57:43 PM] Rob: Oh, hm, noticed this - "so bad it has been followed as a hate group" do you mean that people are joining it as a hate group, or people are declaring it a hate group
[27/12/2014, 9:58:03 PM] drinternetphd: people are declaring it as a hategroup and I am going to link to southern poverty law center's hatewatch
[27/12/2014, 9:58:24 PM] Rob: Kk, that was gonna be my next question ("who are you referencing")
[27/12/2014, 9:58:29 PM] drinternetphd: there's gonna be links to dan's article for the CP thing, and an undecided article for the abuse thing
[27/12/2014, 9:58:35 PM] drinternetphd: cause there are so many to choose from
Chelsea clamed to have had C cup breasts since the third grade, which would be around 8-9 years old.
[27/12/2014, 10:10:29 PM] drinternetphd: to be fair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:38 PM] drinternetphd: I did start dying my hair to spite men who hate dyed hair
[27/12/2014, 10:10:51 PM] drinternetphd: I didn't want anyone to talk to me if they were the sort who would care about such a thign
[27/12/2014, 10:10:53 PM] drinternetphd: *thing
[27/12/2014, 10:11:02 PM] drinternetphd: I called it my "asshole filter"
[27/12/2014, 10:11:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Keeps the jerks out of your way.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:11 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: plus being a blonde teen who was 13 but looked 18 made me kind of hate a lot of people very early on
[27/12/2014, 10:13:39 PM] Rob: Oh god, I could imagine
[27/12/2014, 10:13:42 PM] drinternetphd: espeically growing up in a biker club where when you're a girl, your path is very clearly laid out
[27/12/2014, 10:13:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Ugh, yeah.
[27/12/2014, 10:13:48 PM] drinternetphd: yeah I got a c cup in 3rd grade too
[27/12/2014, 10:13:53 PM] drinternetphd: I had people creeping on me my whole life
[27/12/2014, 10:14:05 PM] Ian Cheong: That's incredibly shitty.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:13 PM] drinternetphd: it is and it isn't.
[27/12/2014, 10:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: my mom was hyper gender essentialist too
[27/12/2014, 10:14:32 PM] drinternetphd: and I think she knew I was kinda off
[27/12/2014, 10:14:34 PM] drinternetphd: and kinda queer
[27/12/2014, 10:14:37 PM] drinternetphd: and panicked
[27/12/2014, 10:15:01 PM] drinternetphd: my childhood was kind of horrific in ways I won't ever talk about but it did teach me who I was and what I wanted at an accelerated pace
[27/12/2014, 10:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I got so into riot grrrl
[27/12/2014, 10:15:26 PM] drinternetphd: it was a rejection of everything violently forced upon me since I was born
[27/12/2014, 10:15:52 PM] Remy: Having to grow up fast in order to stay alive didn't really feel like it taught me who I was so much as it taught me how to recognize what i wasn't
[27/12/2014, 10:15:59 PM] drinternetphd: it's why leaving that small town behind and risking being a creator was the single most important thing that I've done in my life, and the thing that made me stop sucking so goddamned much
[27/12/2014, 10:16:04 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:16:07 PM] Remy: I grew up striving not to be like the negative people around in lie
[27/12/2014, 10:16:08 PM] drinternetphd: that's a better way to put it
[27/12/2014, 10:16:10 PM] Remy: life*
[27/12/2014, 10:16:29 PM] drinternetphd: places like that have an inertia to them, I think
[27/12/2014, 10:16:42 PM] drinternetphd: people rarely get out, for good reason. the deck is very stacked against you
[27/12/2014, 10:16:55 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I can forgive a lot
[27/12/2014, 10:17:13 PM] drinternetphd: even basic awareness becomes challenging
[27/12/2014, 10:17:18 PM] Remy: To this day I don't know what made me the personality type to swim against the tide instead of bend and become your tormentors or their accomplices
[27/12/2014, 10:17:29 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. I feel the same.
[27/12/2014, 10:17:34 PM] Remy: your* in the generic sense, not to anyone specific in this room
[27/12/2014, 10:17:44 PM] Remy: I communicate myself poorly v.v
[27/12/2014, 10:17:53 PM] drinternetphd: freak chaotic incidentialness is what I chalk it up to in my case
Accorching to Chelsea, Notch of Minecraft fame was at the time giving her $50 a month on Patreon and thought Depression Quest was an "important piece of art."
[27/12/2014, 10:32:55 PM] Rob: I mean, Notch owns the most expensive house in... what, Malibu? or whatever? now?
[27/12/2014, 10:32:57 PM] drinternetphd: but I decided at GameCity I am dedicating myself to this path of promoting altgames
[27/12/2014, 10:33:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Beverly Hills, Rob.
[27/12/2014, 10:33:13 PM] drinternetphd: idk, I adore markus but I don't ask him these things
[27/12/2014, 10:33:23 PM] Rob: ah, Beverly hills
[27/12/2014, 10:33:28 PM] Rob: And it's public record stuff
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] drinternetphd: that's irrelelvant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:36 PM] Rob: Like he bought the most expensive house, I saw a few articles
[27/12/2014, 10:33:39 PM] drinternetphd: *irrelevant
[27/12/2014, 10:33:45 PM] Rob: No, I just mean that indie games are a path to success, obv
[27/12/2014, 10:33:48 PM] drinternetphd: right
[27/12/2014, 10:33:53 PM] drinternetphd: hmm hmm hmm
[27/12/2014, 10:34:01 PM] Rob: And Notch funds other people making games now too, IIRC
[27/12/2014, 10:34:09 PM] Rob: So it's becoming increasingly viable
[27/12/2014, 10:34:17 PM] drinternetphd: he funds me.
[27/12/2014, 10:34:18 PM] Rob: Or like, the No Man's Sky team will probably make $$$
[27/12/2014, 10:34:46 PM] drinternetphd: not to that degree
[27/12/2014, 10:34:51 PM] drinternetphd: $50 a month on patreon tho
[27/12/2014, 10:35:00 PM] Rob: Rob nods.
[27/12/2014, 10:35:04 PM] drinternetphd: all my big supporters are similarly successsful indies
[27/12/2014, 10:35:14 PM] drinternetphd: that I have done a lot for behind scenes
[27/12/2014, 10:35:25 PM] drinternetphd: (I am so good at promoting other people's shit but garbage at my own)
[27/12/2014, 10:35:31 PM] drinternetphd: it's always funny when that happens cause like
[27/12/2014, 10:35:37 PM] drinternetphd: I don't promote people based on my relationship with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:47 PM] drinternetphd: so a lot of the time I won't have even talked with them
[27/12/2014, 10:35:59 PM] drinternetphd: so when they're suddenly supportive I'm like "oshit they noticed me"
[27/12/2014, 10:36:04 PM] Rob:
[27/12/2014, 10:36:10 PM] drinternetphd: #shitgamergatewouldneverbelieve
[27/12/2014, 10:36:13 PM] Ian Cheong: That must come as a pleasant surprise.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah it's nice
[27/12/2014, 10:36:24 PM] drinternetphd: like I met markus after he'd played my game
[27/12/2014, 10:36:39 PM] drinternetphd: and it broke my brain. he told me it mattered to him and that he thought it was an important piece of art
[27/12/2014, 10:36:48 PM] Rob: That's awesome.
[27/12/2014, 10:36:50 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:36:54 PM] drinternetphd: he's a really sweet guy
[27/12/2014, 10:37:00 PM] drinternetphd: who wasn't expecting to get rich
[27/12/2014, 10:37:16 PM] drinternetphd: like you can still find the original tigsource threads from when he was prototypin
Chelsea bragged about the games she is supposed to be in and said she was "hyperventilating in starbucks" because the developer of Gone Home had used the name 'Quinn' as part of an Easter egg. This lead to Chelsea sperging out about Eron, again.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:42 PM] Ian Cheong: That's why I liked gone home so much. It subverted a lot of my expectations.
[27/12/2014, 10:43:48 PM] drinternetphd: gone home was beautiful
[27/12/2014, 10:43:59 PM] drinternetphd: yknow I'm in that game right
[27/12/2014, 10:44:04 PM] Ian Cheong: You are???
[27/12/2014, 10:44:06 PM] drinternetphd: mhmm
[27/12/2014, 10:44:10 PM] drinternetphd: the final book in the pentagram room
[27/12/2014, 10:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: was written by "christine quinn"
[27/12/2014, 10:44:23 PM] drinternetphd: karla mashed christine and I together
[27/12/2014, 10:44:25 PM] Ian Cheong: oh shit.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:29 PM] Ian Cheong: that's right.
[27/12/2014, 10:44:35 PM] drinternetphd: she reached out after to tell me and I started hyperventilating in a starbucks
[27/12/2014, 10:44:47 PM] drinternetphd: (cause I didn't know the team at all)
[27/12/2014, 10:45:09 PM] drinternetphd: games I am in that no one knows about: fez, they bleed pixels, jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:45:28 PM] drinternetphd: my illuminati shit rings true a little just because I have been nice to cool people for 3 yearas
[27/12/2014, 10:45:30 PM] drinternetphd: *years
[27/12/2014, 10:45:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm in Hellgate London.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:34 PM] drinternetphd: yeah?
[27/12/2014, 10:45:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup!
[27/12/2014, 10:45:39 PM] Ian Cheong: as a piece of armor.
[27/12/2014, 10:45:42 PM] drinternetphd: that rules
[27/12/2014, 10:46:00 PM] drinternetphd: I'm most of the voices of the women in jazzpunk
[27/12/2014, 10:46:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Ian Cheong: I need to play that game.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:13 PM] drinternetphd: that's cause I am good at voice acting haha
[27/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] drinternetphd: I just don't dedicate enough time to properly do it
[27/12/2014, 10:46:30 PM] Ian Cheong: I just knew Jim Sterling was in it.
[27/12/2014, 10:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: I like jim quite a lot.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:05 PM] drinternetphd: I like anyone that grows up and owns that
[27/12/2014, 10:47:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, he's great like that.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:17 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:47:29 PM] drinternetphd: everyone fucks up. there's not enough talk around the fact that fucking up is inevitable
[27/12/2014, 10:47:46 PM] drinternetphd: the "you fuck up once and you're banned forever" rhetoric in social justice pisses me off
[27/12/2014, 10:47:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup, no one's a saint, and part of growing up means making many mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 10:47:54 PM] Rob: Agreed
[27/12/2014, 10:48:03 PM] drinternetphd: and that's what is so frustrating about gamergate
[27/12/2014, 10:48:10 PM] drinternetphd: I will never be allowed to make mistakes.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:18 PM] drinternetphd: I am not allowed to have character development
[27/12/2014, 10:48:25 PM] Ian Cheong: You are not allowed agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:48:28 PM] drinternetphd: I am denied a fundamental part of my humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:48:38 PM] drinternetphd: cause god, I am so far from perfect it's laughable
[27/12/2014, 10:48:54 PM] drinternetphd: the fact that Eron said in his shit that "I make people think I'm perfect and beyond criticism" is so insulting
[27/12/2014, 10:49:00 PM] drinternetphd: it's like, no, that's not me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that did not ring true to me at all.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:09 PM] drinternetphd: that's you and your weird purity standard you superimposed on me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:17 PM] drinternetphd: I've tried so hard to advocate for humanity
[27/12/2014, 10:49:18 PM] drinternetphd: and fucking up
[27/12/2014, 10:49:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It seemed like much of what he wrote was projection.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:26 PM] drinternetphd: well like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:30 PM] drinternetphd: he's a literal sociopath
[27/12/2014, 10:49:33 PM] Ian Cheong: He is.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:34 PM] drinternetphd: sociopaths tend to not fall in love
[27/12/2014, 10:49:42 PM] drinternetphd: so he fell in love with some weird idea of me
[27/12/2014, 10:49:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: like
[27/12/2014, 10:49:59 PM] drinternetphd: ok
[27/12/2014, 10:50:05 PM] drinternetphd: say 100% of his post was true, which it isn't
[27/12/2014, 10:50:20 PM] drinternetphd: then at most, at it's basic facts, I'm accused of sleeping with people on tour.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:36 PM] drinternetphd: then owning up to it when called on it, and leaving.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Right.
[27/12/2014, 10:50:46 PM] drinternetphd: if I was a dude
[27/12/2014, 10:50:54 PM] drinternetphd: I don't think I even have to finish that statement
[27/12/2014, 10:50:58 PM] Ian Cheong: If you were a dude you would be forgiven by the masses in a heartbeat.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:08 PM] Ian Cheong: "Musicians do it all the time" they'd say.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: it is the last thing that is anyone's fucking business regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:51:43 PM] drinternetphd: the takeaway would be "maybe don't date her"
[27/12/2014, 10:51:44 PM] Rob: Pretty much.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I really don't know why it's such a big deal to people. Well, I have some ideas, but really, it's none of their business and they should feel ashamed for making it their business.
[27/12/2014, 10:51:59 PM] drinternetphd: which is fine. who I am currently with has known me better than him regardless
[27/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] drinternetphd: and I've not and never will give my side of things
[27/12/2014, 10:52:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you don't have to.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Ian Cheong: It's bullshit that anyone thinks to put you on the spot by forcing you to give a confession.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:45 PM] drinternetphd: just on principle I refuse to. I don't want the young girls I've taught how to make games to look at me and see me do that and take notes.
[27/12/2014, 10:52:55 PM] Rob: Even if everything in that post was true, the only person with any sort of public responsibility potentially would be NG if he had actually written a review.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:03 PM] drinternetphd: I think if you've cheated on people or not, that has nothing to do with your career
[27/12/2014, 10:53:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's denying you your agency.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:11 PM] Rob: This whole thing is fucking bullshit.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:14 PM] drinternetphd: see
[27/12/2014, 10:53:18 PM] drinternetphd: nathan and I were dating
[27/12/2014, 10:53:20 PM] drinternetphd: and told everyone
[27/12/2014, 10:53:28 PM] drinternetphd: and he specifically didn't cover my shit because of it.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:35 PM] drinternetphd: we had that conversation BEFORE we decided to date
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] drinternetphd: ironically.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Nathan's a great journalist. He's written for me a few times.
[27/12/2014, 10:53:49 PM] Rob: If a male game dev had done the exact same shit you were accused of, the response would have been HIGH FIVES
[27/12/2014, 10:53:52 PM] Rob: Right
[27/12/2014, 10:53:56 PM] drinternetphd: oh they have and they do.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:00 PM] Rob: Oh, I'm sure
[27/12/2014, 10:54:16 PM] Rob: It's disgusting.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:21 PM] Ian Cheong: It's double standards.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:24 PM] Ian Cheong: One for women and one for men.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:26 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Men get to keep a harem, if they want.
[27/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: women get to if you're a lesbian or trans because people already go "eww" and hate you anyway
[27/12/2014, 10:55:18 PM] drinternetphd: or you're already irrelevant for being a woman so who cares
[27/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Rob: I find it amusing that a lot of the people I know who are in gamergate now who are like 'ZOE'S A WHOOOOR' used to make fun of me for being a virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:55:34 PM] Rob: lolol double standards. fuck patriarchy.
[27/12/2014, 10:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: things I will never care about:
- other people fucking
-
[27/12/2014, 10:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: like to any degree
[27/12/2014, 10:55:53 PM] Rob: +1
[27/12/2014, 10:55:59 PM] drinternetphd: one of my closest friends is a 28 year old virgin
[27/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] drinternetphd: I've known him for like over a decade now
[27/12/2014, 10:56:25 PM] Rob: Yeah, I was that, basically. it was no one's business but my own. I'm not anymore, but w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: the only thing it effects for him, personally? WHEN PEOPLE ACT SHITTY CAUSE HE'S A VIRGIN
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Rob: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:32 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why people make such a big deal about virginity, and at the same time shame people for having sex.
[27/12/2014, 10:56:59 PM] Rob: Like, w/e, I waited until I found someone I really liked and when I was mature enough and stable enough to have a relationship
[27/12/2014, 10:57:08 PM] drinternetphd: like I don't care if you haven't eaten a specific food. I don't care if you haven't been to a specific country. I don't care if you haven't seen a specific movie. why would I care if you have had sex or not
[27/12/2014, 10:57:17 PM] Rob: exactly
[27/12/2014, 10:57:28 PM] Rob: It literally does not affect me in any way whatsoever if someone else is having lots of sex or no sex or w/e
[27/12/2014, 10:57:35 PM] drinternetphd: I care that you're a good person who is healthy and happy and safe.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:43 PM] Rob: As long as it's consenting adults, have a blast or don't do anything, IDGAF
[27/12/2014, 10:57:47 PM] Ian Cheong: People make it their business because they want to assert control over your identity.
[27/12/2014, 10:57:48 PM] drinternetphd: yup
[27/12/2014, 10:57:56 PM] drinternetphd: it's the same people who police other people's pronouns
[27/12/2014, 10:58:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Correct.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:17 PM] drinternetphd: just give everyone a hyper basic level of humanity and respect
[27/12/2014, 10:58:20 PM] drinternetphd: it costs you nothing
[27/12/2014, 10:58:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Seriously. It's not that hard.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:40 PM] drinternetphd: like I got mad when people started going after cernovich cause of his skin condition and balls
[27/12/2014, 10:58:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah as far as I'm concerned, that's off limits.
[27/12/2014, 10:58:53 PM] drinternetphd: cause he is top 10 one of the worst people I've ever met
[27/12/2014, 10:58:56 PM] drinternetphd: but you don't do that to people, period
[27/12/2014, 10:59:04 PM] Ian Cheong: It's like going after me because I'm Asian, you know?
[27/12/2014, 10:59:07 PM] drinternetphd: yea
[27/12/2014, 10:59:33 PM] Rob: It's far more satisfying to go after people for the shit they do, too, IMO
[27/12/2014, 10:59:41 PM] drinternetphd: it's more relevant and fixable too
[27/12/2014, 10:59:43 PM] Rob: yep
[27/12/2014, 10:59:44 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup.
[27/12/2014, 11:00:04 PM] drinternetphd: if you have control over something and you still choose to be an ass? if that effects me or humanity at large then we have beef
[27/12/2014, 11:00:13 PM] Rob: But even if you just want to be mean, it's far more fun to fuck with chuck c. Johnson shitting on the floor than insert whatever condition he may have
[27/12/2014, 11:00:23 PM] Rob: (assuming he has one, just for sake of argument)
[27/12/2014, 11:00:30 PM] drinternetphd: if you made a mistake or were thoughtless or it's not a pattern? Say you're sorry, don't let it happen again, and we are cool forever
Chelsea also claimed to have dated a tranny. Chelsea also thinks everyone should Listen and Believe whatever a troon tells them. She also mentioned that she used to hate furries and was a "total shit" to them.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:40 PM] drinternetphd: it takes active effort on my part to remember gender is a thing to people
[27/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] Remy: I was raised by... the worst people.
[27/12/2014, 11:02:47 PM] Rob: I didn't really know anyone who was trans (at least, that I was aware of), so I never had the opportunity to say that sort of stuff, so I don't know if I would have.
[27/12/2014, 11:03:02 PM] drinternetphd: for me it changed when I started dating a transwoman
[27/12/2014, 11:04:58 PM] drinternetphd: I do think there's more grey in gender than society currently effectively allows for
[27/12/2014, 11:04:59 PM] Rob: Agreed w/ zoe, Stephen.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:12 PM] Rob: I do think English needs to standardize like... more pronouns.
[27/12/2014, 11:05:23 PM] drinternetphd: that's why I try and promote the use of "y'all" and "folks"
[27/12/2014, 11:07:35 PM] drinternetphd: one of the things I think a lot of trans phobes and their ilk don't realize is like
[27/12/2014, 11:07:44 PM] drinternetphd: you do 0 disservice to anyone by just fucking listening
[27/12/2014, 11:07:54 PM] drinternetphd: and believing that someone is more of an expert on themselves than you are
[27/12/2014, 11:07:59 PM] Rob: yep. listening is what changed my mind
[27/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] drinternetphd: and believing in people
[27/12/2014, 11:08:11 PM] Rob: and it takes like 0 effort to do
[27/12/2014, 11:08:13 PM] Ian Cheong: They try to uphold the status quo because it offers them power over marginalized individuals.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:15 PM] drinternetphd: like I used to be a total shit to furries
[27/12/2014, 11:08:20 PM] drinternetphd: but like
[27/12/2014, 11:08:23 PM] drinternetphd: what the fuck does it matter
[27/12/2014, 11:08:26 PM] Ian Cheong: Same.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:27 PM] drinternetphd: (not to compare the two mind you)
[27/12/2014, 11:08:30 PM] Rob: That's what pisses me off, Ian.
[27/12/2014, 11:08:32 PM] drinternetphd: but what the absolute fuck does it matter
Chelsea also claimed to have either been on a police force or just had wanted to become an officer who "didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously."
[27/12/2014, 11:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: the same shit's been happening during the ferguson protests. a few of my black friends have reached out and been like "thank you for caring and being vocal"
[27/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Ian Cheong: I just want to shake them!
[27/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] drinternetphd: and I'm like
[27/12/2014, 11:12:38 PM] drinternetphd: NO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS BARE MINIMUM
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] drinternetphd: THIS IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:45 PM] Remy: ME TOO
[27/12/2014, 11:12:51 PM] drinternetphd: WHAT I AM DOING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] drinternetphd: CARING IS NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Remy: I'm like "THIS IS SMALL POTATOS THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING TEAR GASSED AND SHOT AT"
[27/12/2014, 11:13:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, you're just being a human being.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:05 PM] drinternetphd: OUR BARS SHOULD BE HIGHER THAN LESS THAN NOTHING
[27/12/2014, 11:13:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Empathy should be the base minimum for human behavior.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:10 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:13:15 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why sociopathy has become the base minimum on the internet.
[27/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so fucking uncomfortable and wrong for being praised at all for that
[27/12/2014, 11:13:27 PM] Remy: Although I feel like a dick
[27/12/2014, 11:13:32 PM] Ian Cheong: Maybe it's easy for people to distance themselves from these issues, and paint anyone with empathy as an SJW.
[27/12/2014, 11:14:06 PM] drinternetphd: I think it has to be at least partly a perspective thing
[27/12/2014, 11:14:12 PM] Remy: Because every now and then I will still get a RT on this one tweet I put out... basically like a couple weeks ago this one cop tweeted out shit like "If any of you feel like you can't breathe or your lives matter I'll be [at some place off duty] with my [firearm]"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:24 PM] drinternetphd: they probably don't know how shit looks like when you haven't been given so many advantages
[27/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] Remy: And I tweeted him like "Hey dude come threaten me with your gun. I wanna see if you scare me"
[27/12/2014, 11:14:34 PM] Remy: I was just mad
[27/12/2014, 11:14:41 PM] drinternetphd: yeah
[27/12/2014, 11:14:47 PM] Remy: But people are still laughing and shit
[27/12/2014, 11:14:54 PM] drinternetphd: tbh that's why I didn't stick it out and pursue trying to be a detective like I wanted to
[27/12/2014, 11:14:56 PM] Ian Cheong: People fail to recognize their privilege.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:06 PM] drinternetphd: I couldn't be around those peoepl
[27/12/2014, 11:15:08 PM] drinternetphd: *people
[27/12/2014, 11:15:13 PM] Remy: When I first joined the army it was going to be as a stepping stone to become a detective
[27/12/2014, 11:15:26 PM] Remy: I wanted to pursue online crimes and sexual predators
[27/12/2014, 11:15:35 PM] Remy: But the Army took out all of my tolerance for the US government
[27/12/2014, 11:15:41 PM] drinternetphd: I wanted to be someone on the force who didn't profile and took sex crimes seriously
[27/12/2014, 11:15:46 PM] drinternetphd: yeahhhh
[27/12/2014, 11:15:53 PM] Ian Cheong: We're all a bunch of idealists.
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] Remy: So I went back to my childhood dream of being a storyteller/novelist
[27/12/2014, 11:15:54 PM] drinternetphd: working with other people in law enforcement did the same
Chelsea really fucking hates wizardchan.
[27/12/2014, 11:30:58 PM] Ian Cheong: William Usher wrote a new piece about 'ethics in game journalism'
[27/12/2014, 11:31:19 PM] Ian Cheong: And in it, he talks about how Wizardchan had its "reputation damaged" by improper reportage into their harassment of Zoe Quinn.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Like hello this is the same Wizardchan that spawned Elliot Rodger.
[27/12/2014, 11:31:56 PM] Remy: I get the feeling that's like Hitler claiming his reputation was damaged by The Producers
[27/12/2014, 11:32:07 PM] Remy: like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[27/12/2014, 11:32:10 PM] Remy: If you say so
[27/12/2014, 11:32:28 PM] drinternetphd: yo wizardchan can fuck off
[27/12/2014, 11:32:45 PM] drinternetphd: like the fact that what they'd done to me in december was in question because of an idiot's crazy ass conspiracy jpeg is moronic
[27/12/2014, 11:43:14 PM] drinternetphd: yo
[27/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] drinternetphd: considering I have had a spade of cool friends who are virgins with depression
[27/12/2014, 11:43:45 PM] drinternetphd: and don't say shit like "women can't be depressed they can just go in the middle of the road with their hole open and a man will solve their problems"
[27/12/2014, 11:43:50 PM] drinternetphd: that is p much verbatim btw
[27/12/2014, 11:43:56 PM] Ian Cheong: so fucking gross.
[27/12/2014, 11:44:04 PM] drinternetphd: fuck wizardchan for pretending they're the definitive voice on being a depressed virgin
[27/12/2014, 11:44:09 PM] Rob: SERIOUSLY.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:19 PM] Rob: Yeah, I got brutalized on YT for admitting to being a virgin.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:29 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because people still attack me for that even though I'm not anymore.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] Ian Cheong: That's fucked.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Rob: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] drinternetphd: it super sucks
[27/12/2014, 11:46:04 PM] Rob: Which is funny, because most of these people are MRAs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:11 PM] Rob: or MGTOWs.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:21 PM] drinternetphd: yeah if you actually cared about mens rights you wouldn't be a fucking prick to male virgins
[27/12/2014, 11:46:31 PM] Ian Cheong: Clearly they do not give a shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:32 PM] Rob: Or male rape victims.
[27/12/2014, 11:46:38 PM] drinternetphd: you'd be pushing against the societal pressure that makes them feel shitty about it
[27/12/2014, 11:46:42 PM] drinternetphd: and not
[27/12/2014, 11:46:43 PM] drinternetphd: yknow
[27/12/2014, 11:46:47 PM] drinternetphd: making them feel shitty about it
Chelsea said she has a "Kill Bill" list and Eron is her 'Bill'.
[27/12/2014, 11:48:55 PM] Rob: My rape stuff is in an ED article about me
[27/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Rob: and Tf00t did that whole shit encouraging dogpiling of me. They'd definitely do the same to you, or worse.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:29 PM] drinternetphd: fucking ED
[27/12/2014, 11:49:40 PM] drinternetphd: that site needs to go
[27/12/2014, 11:49:48 PM] Rob: agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:49:50 PM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
[27/12/2014, 11:49:51 PM] Ian Cheong: It went offline once. Not sure where it's hosted now.
[27/12/2014, 11:49:53 PM] Peter Coffin: and agreed
[27/12/2014, 11:51:16 PM] drinternetphd: milo links to it in articles about me
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] drinternetphd: I think
[27/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] Peter Coffin: shouldn’t that stop someone from being considered a journalist
[27/12/2014, 11:52:07 PM] drinternetphd: a large % of my life is going to be dedicated to my kill bill list
[27/12/2014, 11:52:19 PM] Peter Coffin: who is bill
[27/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: eron
[27/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Peter Coffin: out of the lot
[27/12/2014, 11:52:27 PM] Peter Coffin: ah
[27/12/2014, 11:52:35 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who started all this.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:36 PM] Remy: Yup
[27/12/2014, 11:52:38 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one I once loved
[27/12/2014, 11:52:43 PM] Ian Cheong: I saw a whole bunch of Repubs laughing at him
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] Rob: Ian, it's 100% true.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:46 PM] drinternetphd: he's the one who tried to control me via pregnancy shit.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] drinternetphd: eron is my bill.
[27/12/2014, 11:52:50 PM] Remy: Def's writing under pseudonyms after this one contest
[27/12/2014, 11:53:13 PM] Remy: They really fucked with the wrong cyborg
[27/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Rob: Even most conservatives I know consider breitbart to be a joke, and Milo to be the worst of the bunch
[27/12/2014, 11:53:26 PM] Peter Coffin: you know what is really weird, I don’t even think of him. Every time I have thought of him he had disgusted me in some way or another. I don’t know if that is weird, my brain avoids it. the story of him is so fucked
[27/12/2014, 11:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: I clawed my way out of a childhood of poverty and violence.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] drinternetphd: these people? ants, comparitively.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep.
[27/12/2014, 11:53:54 PM] drinternetphd: the only difference is they came after me once I had found my happy ending.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] drinternetphd: they came after me once I actually had something to lose.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:16 PM] drinternetphd: and peter: most people are like that.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:20 PM] drinternetphd: eron deliberately distanced himself.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] drinternetphd: the story of what he's done to me is lost even though it's what gg is founded on.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:42 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I’m sorry about him. one time he started talking to me without me even saying literally anything about him
[27/12/2014, 11:54:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll never forget what he did to you.
[27/12/2014, 11:54:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I was like “noooooooooope"
[27/12/2014, 11:54:50 PM] drinternetphd: even though it contextualizes this fucking nightmare.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:05 PM] drinternetphd: yeah. he registered a twitter account purely to stalk my friends an I
[27/12/2014, 11:55:07 PM] drinternetphd: *and
[27/12/2014, 11:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: and effectively he's gotten away with it pre-restraining order.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:35 PM] Ian Cheong: He puts on a friendly face when interacting with people, as a sociopath often does, to make people think he isn't the monster that he truly is.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:45 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I think you’re right about that ian
[27/12/2014, 11:55:51 PM] drinternetphd: he convinced me.
[27/12/2014, 11:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: they can
[27/12/2014, 11:56:04 PM] drinternetphd: even though once it was too late I caught on
[27/12/2014, 11:56:12 PM] drinternetphd: asked him to his face, no judgement, if he might be a sociopath
[27/12/2014, 11:56:15 PM] drinternetphd: told me no, it was something else.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:17 PM] Ian Cheong: At least you caught on, some people never do.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:28 PM] drinternetphd: I thought I could love him regardless.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:36 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm sorry.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I’m sorry too zoe
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] drinternetphd: and deal with the isolation and weirdness and controlling issues that came with it.
[27/12/2014, 11:56:46 PM] Peter Coffin: geez
[27/12/2014, 11:57:05 PM] drinternetphd: I thought love was bigger than that because of my own bullshit history of being raised in abusive situations
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] drinternetphd: and I think he knew that and used it, honestly.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Now he paints himself as an abuse survivor. That mother fucker.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:18 PM] drinternetphd: yeah.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:25 PM] Peter Coffin: he is gamer gate, if you think about it
[27/12/2014, 11:57:32 PM] drinternetphd: he is. and no one knows.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:36 PM] Peter Coffin: he is co-opting in the same way they are
[27/12/2014, 11:57:37 PM] Remy: So I guess the first name on the Bill List is GamerGate. Sink the ship that is bombarding you. And now that ship is forever tied to CP and we just need to get that story out there and gaining traction
[27/12/2014, 11:57:45 PM] drinternetphd: I get "five guys" messages constantly and no one knows my ex made it up to hurt me
[27/12/2014, 11:57:51 PM] Ian Cheong: I called out Eron's bullshit on Twitter when he was on a stream once and gators rallied to defend him on the stream and on Twitter like I was abusing an abuse victim.
[27/12/2014, 11:57:58 PM] drinternetphd: I hear that.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:01 PM] Ian Cheong: A woman literally yelled at me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:02 PM] drinternetphd: I listened to it in realtime.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:08 PM] drinternetphd: I have to record those things.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:10 PM] drinternetphd: for court.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, it's still on Youtube probably.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:19 PM] drinternetphd: to know what he's feeding these people about me. so I can prepare.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:36 PM] drinternetphd: I can't get away from him because he refuses to stop dogging me.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:42 PM] Peter Coffin: are you still stuck with the same shitty magistrate
[27/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: likely.
[27/12/2014, 11:58:49 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:50 PM] Remy: There has to be a way to occupy his attention to get some heat off of you...
[27/12/2014, 11:59:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubtful. he has been single minded for 5 months
[27/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: Sure this means he's been neglecting something.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:17 PM] drinternetphd: even before that when I tried to leave him a bunch of times he wouldn't let me leave.
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 PM] drinternetphd: he had nothing else.
[28/12/2014, 12:03:21 AM] drinternetphd: lol he didn't even bother deleting his blogs from when I kept trying to get away from him
[28/12/2014, 12:03:22 AM] drinternetphd: sent a file to this group:
IMG_27122014_080304.png
[28/12/2014, 12:03:35 AM] drinternetphd: [28/12/2014, 12:03:50 AM] Ian Cheong: "How many memes did I cause, anyway?"
[28/12/2014, 12:04:00 AM] drinternetphd: he's a monster and no one knows.
[28/12/2014, 12:05:02 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
[28/12/2014, 12:05:42 AM] Ian Cheong: You have twice as many tabs open as I do.
[28/12/2014, 12:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: this is not my only window
You may recall that in the days before Christmas Chelsea was sperging out hard about Patreon. Chelsea was worried because she believed she might be kicked off and wouldn't "have income" next month. On December 27th, Chelsea got the response from Patreon and was told they weren't taking action against her despite all the reports of what a shitbag she is. The staking of Cernovich and Hotwheels was also continuing.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: it'd be really nice if patreon would email me back at all
[27/12/2014, 2:24:56 AM] Ian Cheong: BTW, I notice that a lot of people refer to GGers by the names they use on their profiles, like "Eleanor Varrot". That's not a real name. That's a character from Valkyria Chronicles.
[27/12/2014, 2:24:59 AM] drinternetphd: and let me know if I have income or not next month
[27/12/2014, 2:26:42 AM] Peter Coffin: patreon is believing numbers/males over a harassed woman, thats how
[27/12/2014, 2:26:59 AM] Peter Coffin: or maybe isn't
[27/12/2014, 2:27:02 AM] Peter Coffin: but it seems like it right now
[27/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] drinternetphd: idk literally any fucking response right now would be nice
[27/12/2014, 2:27:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So frustrating to see them basically court Mike C and give him so much attention/validation
[27/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
[27/12/2014, 2:27:38 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah
[27/12/2014, 2:27:51 AM] Peter Coffin: it proves they are at best clueless and I don't really want to say what at worst
[28/12/2014, 5:45:23 AM] drinternetphd: Patreon just cleared me. No action taken from cernovichs bs raid
[27/12/2014, 11:58:34 AM] Tesseract: well he also said he spent a shitload of money to win a rape case, is a fan of return of kings, and has said shit like "the better the sex the more it feels like rape"
[27/12/2014, 11:58:37 AM] Tesseract: so uh
[27/12/2014, 11:58:43 AM] Tesseract: preeeeeeeeeeeety fucking sure he's a rapist
[27/12/2014, 11:59:00 AM] drinternetphd: jesus christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus fucking christ
[27/12/2014, 11:59:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's an early juicebro post on consent
[27/12/2014, 11:59:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2005/11/sexlaw_and_cons.html
[27/12/2014, 11:59:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's from 2005
[27/12/2014, 11:59:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Cern says women can't "not consent" for being passed out
[27/12/2014, 11:59:19 AM] drinternetphd: I can't keep going down this particular rabbit hole right now so
[27/12/2014, 11:59:22 AM] drinternetphd: cause reasons
[27/12/2014, 11:59:39 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to go play pokemon and try to readjust
[28/12/2014, 5:45:47 AM] drinternetphd: Kluwe he did respond
[28/12/2014, 5:45:51 AM] Remy: Remy throws a :3 cat at Zoe
[28/12/2014, 5:45:52 AM] drinternetphd: But he deleted it
[28/12/2014, 5:45:56 AM] Athena Hollow: HAH
[28/12/2014, 5:45:58 AM] drinternetphd: But I screencapped it
[28/12/2014, 5:46:00 AM] drinternetphd: So
[28/12/2014, 5:49:22 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: http://i.gyazo.com/df66043cf9be9c2904b800654484d6d3.png
[28/12/2014, 5:49:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: "That's not yes or no question, as you know. Is a kawyer who draws up a contract for you still your lawyer? It depends."
[28/12/2014, 5:49:48 AM] Remy: oh wow
[28/12/2014, 5:49:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, saw that one
[28/12/2014, 5:50:01 AM] drinternetphd: this is the url if it helps https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547947529300480000
[28/12/2014, 5:50:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm trying to pin him down on representing hotwheels right now for the CP stuff
[28/12/2014, 5:50:13 AM] drinternetphd: ahh
They wanted to get Hotwheels a "lifetime ban" from Patreon for being a "white nationalist." They also celebrated RogueStar being kicked off Patreon and chimped about Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Hotwheels outing himself as a hardline white nationalist is pretty great.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:30 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 5:52:31 AM] drinternetphd: where
[28/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] drinternetphd: cause that's a lifetime ban from patreon
[28/12/2014, 5:52:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the whole problem with this thing though, is that none of them can admit they may have made a mistake
[28/12/2014, 5:52:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: sec, i linked it earlier
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Remy: It's on his 8chan page
[28/12/2014, 5:52:49 AM] Ian Cheong: http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
[28/12/2014, 5:52:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: some nice person in Ghazi found the 8chan thread
[28/12/2014, 5:52:52 AM] Ian Cheong: There.
[28/12/2014, 5:52:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun with that Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's honestly kind of sad. Seems that he is for Eugenics because he thinks it would have prevented his disability
[28/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] drinternetphd: submit that to their hello@patreon.com email
[28/12/2014, 5:53:33 AM] Ian Cheong: He's an idiot. It would have prevented his very existence.
[28/12/2014, 5:53:36 AM] drinternetphd: with a link to his patreon page
[28/12/2014, 5:53:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian, of course
[28/12/2014, 5:53:47 AM] Peter Coffin: exactly ian
[28/12/2014, 5:53:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's the archived thread
[28/12/2014, 5:53:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
[28/12/2014, 5:53:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: standard chan warning of stupidity
[28/12/2014, 5:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: thank you thank you thank you
[28/12/2014, 5:54:07 AM] Ian Cheong: let's all email PAtreon
[28/12/2014, 5:54:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm writing one up now
[28/12/2014, 5:54:19 AM] drinternetphd: don't
[28/12/2014, 5:54:29 AM] drinternetphd: maybe do it if they don't respond to the first thing
[28/12/2014, 5:54:34 AM] Ian Cheong: ahh yeah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] drinternetphd: but just one person send one email
[28/12/2014, 5:54:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
[28/12/2014, 5:54:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok
[28/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] drinternetphd: I'm still a little jittery from all this so if someone else could take this I'd be greatful
[28/12/2014, 5:54:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, looking like we're brigading is bad juju
[28/12/2014, 5:55:01 AM] Ian Cheong: who wants to do it? I've already reported other people so i don't think they want to hear from me too much.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:09 AM] drinternetphd: but they're kind of leery of getting hit with massive outcry because that's what GG does
[28/12/2014, 5:55:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can do it, i've been pretty active about it on twitter today
[28/12/2014, 5:55:21 AM] Ian Cheong: great.
[28/12/2014, 5:55:22 AM] drinternetphd: thanks man
[28/12/2014, 5:58:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: here's what i wrote
[28/12/2014, 5:58:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: Hello, it has come to my attention that one of your Patreon members, Fredrick Brennan, aka Hotwheels (the owner of 8chan) has written an article for the Daily Stormer (a neo-Nazi site), and has expressed a wish to write more articles for that site. I believe that this violates the terms of services of Patreon, and hope that this information proves useful to your company in protecting its image.
Archived link of the entire thread here, Brennan is the moderator with the wheelchair symbol
https://t.co/3xc8UNeSeA
Screenshot here
http://i.imgur.com/PV9KDaf.png
Thank you, and have a nice day!
-Chris
[28/12/2014, 5:58:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Looks good.
[28/12/2014, 5:58:36 AM] Athena Hollow: (y)
[28/12/2014, 5:58:42 AM] drinternetphd: very good.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: and sent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:09 AM] Peter Coffin: Excellent
[28/12/2014, 5:59:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Today really delivered.
[28/12/2014, 5:59:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: automated reply sent back, would imagine they won't get back to me for a couple hours or so
[28/12/2014, 5:59:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Indeed
[28/12/2014, 5:59:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, their automated reply image is great
[28/12/2014, 6:00:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I cannot with this today.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:14 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It has been five hours.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:18 AM] Ian Cheong: RogueStar's patreon is gone.
[28/12/2014, 6:00:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha
[28/12/2014, 6:00:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: but how will he finish his game?
[28/12/2014, 6:00:34 AM] Athena Hollow: They essentially implemented a "Rogue Rule" XD
[28/12/2014, 6:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:00:43 AM] Ian Cheong: Sorry Veerender.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fuck Mundane Matt.
[28/12/2014, 6:01:02 AM] Remy: lol I leave my twitter for five minutes
[28/12/2014, 6:01:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: that guy's such a fucking douche
[28/12/2014, 6:02:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Well, Mundane Matt--made everyone attack me, since last night.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:43 AM] drinternetphd: : ( oh no you too?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have been dealing with garbage for five hours right now.
[28/12/2014, 6:02:52 AM] drinternetphd: are you documenting all that?
[28/12/2014, 6:02:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero 5m5 minutes ago
@ChrisWarcraft @playdangerously Catching up on stuff. Is this the founder of 8chan talking about writing for the Daily Stormer? Not cool.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
[28/12/2014, 6:03:16 AM] Ian Cheong: YES
[28/12/2014, 6:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: oh my~
[28/12/2014, 6:03:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/mundanematt/status/548712926853742592
[28/12/2014, 6:03:23 AM] Veerender Jubbal: It was from that.
[28/12/2014, 6:03:24 AM] Remy: wow nice
[28/12/2014, 6:03:27 AM] Remy: Sorry
[28/12/2014, 6:03:32 AM] Remy: I'm just shocked to hear that coming from Mil
[28/12/2014, 6:03:33 AM] Remy: Milo*
[28/12/2014, 6:03:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Zoe, he is bothering you, too?
[28/12/2014, 6:03:42 AM] Remy: lIke is Milo being the voice of reason today?
[28/12/2014, 6:04:05 AM] drinternetphd: veerender: he made the first accusations about me banging nathan for coverage
[28/12/2014, 6:05:08 AM] drinternetphd: veerender - if you screenshot all of the shit you have the gumption to from MundaneMatt, send it to patreon
[28/12/2014, 6:05:13 AM] drinternetphd: he is not allowed to do this
Chelsea bragged to her rat king that her 'agent' for the Five Guys: The Book could "eat" Milo's agent. Chelsea described the book as a "series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life" and that she would say "how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason" and try to "kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends."
[28/12/2014, 6:06:15 AM] drinternetphd: hahaha milo is gonna be pissed when he sees my agent can eat his agent
[28/12/2014, 6:06:31 AM] drinternetphd: when I announce the book I'm recreating his stupid photo
[28/12/2014, 6:06:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
[28/12/2014, 6:07:00 AM] drinternetphd: also my agent? don't leak cause I am not sure when we're announcing but
[28/12/2014, 6:07:03 AM] drinternetphd: it's Ross-Yoon
[28/12/2014, 6:07:27 AM] Ian Cheong: That's awesome Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:07:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: and congrats zoe
[28/12/2014, 6:07:35 AM] Rob: Awesome, zoe!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:46 AM] drinternetphd: my agent only really represents pulitzer winners and nyt bestsellers
[28/12/2014, 6:07:52 AM] drinternetphd: she hasn't NOT sold a pitch ever
[28/12/2014, 6:07:56 AM] Athena Hollow: awesome!
[28/12/2014, 6:07:58 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder
[28/12/2014, 6:08:04 AM] drinternetphd: also she is fun to drink with and "gets" my approach to creativity
[28/12/2014, 6:08:06 AM] Peter Coffin: That's bad as Fuck
[28/12/2014, 6:08:08 AM] Ian Cheong: What if you won a Pulitzer.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:11 AM] drinternetphd: lol shut up
[28/12/2014, 6:08:18 AM] Ian Cheong: hehe
[28/12/2014, 6:08:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: hahaha, the gross parts of the internet would implode
[28/12/2014, 6:08:35 AM] Athena Hollow: MUST. MAKE. HAPPEN.
[28/12/2014, 6:08:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:08:46 AM] drinternetphd: the way I'm doing it makes it unlikely probably
[28/12/2014, 6:09:00 AM] Peter Coffin: How so
[28/12/2014, 6:09:02 AM] drinternetphd: my longform shit borrows super heavily from david sedaris, format-wise
[28/12/2014, 6:09:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
[28/12/2014, 6:09:26 AM] drinternetphd: so it'll be a series of anecdotes that are one chapter each that serve to illustrate how the internet is batshit when it collides with real life
[28/12/2014, 6:09:39 AM] drinternetphd: and how dumb that is because the internet IS real life we've just all convinced ourselves it isn't for some reason
[28/12/2014, 6:09:44 AM] Peter Coffin: That doesn't mean it can't win a Pulitzer. No pressure.
[28/12/2014, 6:09:48 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:49 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:53 AM] drinternetphd: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:09:55 AM] drinternetphd: fuck you guys
[28/12/2014, 6:09:59 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] drinternetphd: I'm going to dedicate the book to farts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:02 AM] Ian Cheong: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] Ian Cheong: <3
[28/12/2014, 6:10:08 AM] drinternetphd: then it will never win anything
[28/12/2014, 6:10:12 AM] Athena Hollow: Kav will love it.
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Peter Coffin: Haha
[28/12/2014, 6:10:16 AM] Remy: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:24 AM] Remy: I thought you were going to dedicated it to butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Yes she will
[28/12/2014, 6:10:28 AM] Remy: Not Sarah, just, y'know, butts
[28/12/2014, 6:10:32 AM] drinternetphd: wait
[28/12/2014, 6:10:35 AM] drinternetphd: butts might be better
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Remy:
[28/12/2014, 6:10:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:10:40 AM] drinternetphd: don't want fart to continue thinking it was a shoutout
[28/12/2014, 6:14:18 AM] Quinnae: Just catching up with all this.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:29 AM] Quinnae: From the way you described it, Zoe, I do think you have a best seller on your hands.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:43 AM] drinternetphd: aaaa idk
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] drinternetphd: the goal is like
[28/12/2014, 6:14:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This could be the book that defines what it's like to live on the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:14:51 AM] drinternetphd: start out with some sweet internet stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:14:56 AM] drinternetphd: how it gave me pretty much everything I have
[28/12/2014, 6:15:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm playing Halo 4 right now. IDK why I get so scared over these kind of games with aliens and stuff
[28/12/2014, 6:15:14 AM] drinternetphd: try and kill the notion of needing to delineate between "real" friends and "internet" friends
[28/12/2014, 6:15:20 AM] Ian Cheong: I have the internet to thank for all that I have, too.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:26 AM] Athena Hollow: Same.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:27 AM] drinternetphd: start out in the shirt
[28/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: *shire
[28/12/2014, 6:15:35 AM] drinternetphd: lead them through mordor that is gamergate
[28/12/2014, 6:15:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:15:40 AM] Ian Cheong: Be they friends, professional success, or whatever. It's the internet.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero · 9m 9 minutes ago
@The_TimelessOne @PlayDangerously @ChrisWarcraft @infinitechan Yes, fine. Can’t really avoid addressing this in the book now I’ve seen it.
[28/12/2014, 6:15:57 AM] drinternetphd: juxtaposing the small moments of GG so they feel like they're traveling through my story with me
[28/12/2014, 6:16:06 AM] drinternetphd: using selected anecdotes to make specific points about all this
[28/12/2014, 6:16:10 AM] SF: Dedicate it to Sonic with a really divisive comment that the community disagrees with so it goes viral.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:11 AM] Athena Hollow: Pretty much all of the people who are my friends, I met online, including my husband.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: omg
[28/12/2014, 6:16:18 AM] SF: Like say you like the American soundtrack to CD better.
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: these arguments
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] drinternetphd: leading up to the judge telling me none of it mattered because internet
[28/12/2014, 6:16:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:16:35 AM] drinternetphd: and probably wrapping up with the conversation I had with Anita before getting on a plane to come here
[28/12/2014, 6:16:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If I write an opinion piece for Time Magazine does that mean I agree with Time Magazine?"
[28/12/2014, 6:16:57 AM] drinternetphd: so basically get really friendly with the reader, completely crush their spirits, and then lead them back out of it with an eye for rebuilding and reform
Chelsea said she once dated an "otakukin" and that she used to be an internet tough guy. She also joked about Sonic the Hedgehog being her "husbando" because of course a lolcow would have autismal connections to Sonic.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:26 AM] SF: I was lucky enough to fall in with people that believed they were literal werewolves or whatever. Same kind of teenage passion, but a significantly less sticky topic. I bet I could have fallen in with worse people and teen me wouldn't have understood the difference, just seen a fast track to identity-having.
[28/12/2014, 6:21:33 AM] drinternetphd: oh god
[28/12/2014, 6:21:38 AM] drinternetphd: I dated an otakukin once
[28/12/2014, 6:21:46 AM] drinternetphd: so I feel ya
[28/12/2014, 6:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, if half the shit i said on the old ream forum boards was still around
[28/12/2014, 6:22:07 AM] SF: Now I just want to fuck werewolves because I am a mature adult.
[28/12/2014, 6:22:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:22:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: i mean, it wasn't 8chan levels of degeneracy, but i went in the paint pretty hard
[28/12/2014, 6:22:57 AM] drinternetphd: i had a bad case of internet toughguy bullshit before I moved out of the small town I lived in
[28/12/2014, 6:23:08 AM] drinternetphd: sf: he thought he was sailor uranus reincarnated and I was sailor neptune
[28/12/2014, 6:23:20 AM] Athena Hollow: ....
[28/12/2014, 6:23:23 AM] Ian Cheong: So that's what an otakukin isl.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:25 AM] Ian Cheong: I had no idea.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: everyone's gotta have a dream
[28/12/2014, 6:23:32 AM] drinternetphd: saw him years later (I was like 14 at the time) and kinda asked about it and he was like "yeah no I'm over that. I figured out I'm really Cloud."
[28/12/2014, 6:23:48 AM] drinternetphd: he is a manager at a best buy these days
[28/12/2014, 6:23:51 AM] SF: I wonder how many Shadow the Hedgehogs there are.
[28/12/2014, 6:23:54 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
[28/12/2014, 6:23:55 AM] Remy: "otakukin"?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:00 AM] drinternetphd: yeah like otherkin
[28/12/2014, 6:24:01 AM] Peter Coffin: cloud is a manager at best buy?
[28/12/2014, 6:24:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Believe they are reincarnated anime style characters.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:08 AM] drinternetphd: but anime
[28/12/2014, 6:24:43 AM] drinternetphd: as long as we're all clear on one thing
[28/12/2014, 6:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey, hey, folks, I used to think I was a psychic vampire when I was like 14.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:48 AM] drinternetphd: sonic is my husband and not yours
[28/12/2014, 6:24:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 6:24:52 AM] SF: Whether you are or are not literally a particular anime character is IN MY HUMBLE OPINION not a social construct.
[28/12/2014, 6:24:53 AM] drinternetphd: (I am not being serious)
[28/12/2014, 6:25:04 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck off, sonic's mine.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:12 AM] drinternetphd: that's a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:15 AM] SF: You can have him. I'm over him. He's hurt me too many times.
[28/12/2014, 6:25:18 AM] drinternetphd: your sonic is a fake sonic
[28/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[28/12/2014, 6:25:25 AM] drinternetphd: only my husbando is the real article
Chelsea said she would get "horse porn" if holographic data storage tech went mainstream. Chelsea spent $120 for that chip that the Steam game code on it and she said she "jammed" it into herself. She also spent $100 on that magnet she had put in her finger.
28/12/2014, 6:26:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Once holographic data storage tech becomes mainstream you might be able to inject a terabyte of data into your hand, Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:29 AM] Peter Coffin: "hand" led
[28/12/2014, 6:26:37 AM] Remy: okay I finally broke down and Googled "waif"
[28/12/2014, 6:26:39 AM] SF: That storage sounds
[28/12/2014, 6:26:40 AM] SF: handy
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] drinternetphd: i am going to fill it with horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:26:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I just want a cure for whatever the fuck cold thing I have -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:26:45 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm waiting for augmented reality to really take off.
[28/12/2014, 6:26:47 AM] Remy: and no wonder I couldn't figure out what it means, it's not a real word
[28/12/2014, 6:26:48 AM] drinternetphd: a hand full of horse porn
[28/12/2014, 6:29:17 AM] SF: They're going to use it for harvesting people's biometric data, mark my words.
[28/12/2014, 6:29:50 AM] drinternetphd: sf actually the lab I was part of pre-gamergate totalling my life was doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: we're already doing that
[28/12/2014, 6:30:05 AM] drinternetphd: we're just a bunch of grinders but we've got a chip almost finished that will take longterm biodata and upload it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:11 AM] drinternetphd: yeah but this is with open hardware
[28/12/2014, 6:30:17 AM] drinternetphd: and with body mod practitioners
[28/12/2014, 6:30:26 AM] drinternetphd: so you don't need to have a ton of cash to get it
[28/12/2014, 6:30:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: a lot of people also don't understand we're already living in the panopticon, it's just not evenly distributed yet :p
[28/12/2014, 6:30:36 AM] drinternetphd: yeah see
[28/12/2014, 6:30:38 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep Chris.
[28/12/2014, 6:30:40 AM] drinternetphd: that's why I was part of my lab
[28/12/2014, 6:30:54 AM] drinternetphd: tired of this technoutopian vision where only rich people get to party
[28/12/2014, 6:31:04 AM] SF: Neat. I'm all for people taking control of their bodies like that. What scares me is places like Facebook doing it implicitly and on an opt-out model.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:09 AM] drinternetphd: yknow how much the chip in my hand cost? $120
[28/12/2014, 6:31:10 AM] Ian Cheong: I want to live in a world where everyone gets to have access to biotech.
[28/12/2014, 6:31:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: basically I want Iain Banks' Culture
[28/12/2014, 6:31:23 AM] drinternetphd: jammed it in there myself
[28/12/2014, 6:31:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: but human nature tends to push towards dystopia
[28/12/2014, 6:31:29 AM] Athena Hollow: We got a long time till that one. We don't even live in a world where everyone has access to healthcare yet -_-
[28/12/2014, 6:31:32 AM] drinternetphd: my magnetic implant was only $100
Chelsea named the "white house contact" she mentioned before, Mark DeLoura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_DeLoura
[28/12/2014, 7:48:21 AM] drinternetphd: mark deloura's my whitehouse contact dude - if he ever ends up reaching out to you too just fyi he's good people
[28/12/2014, 7:48:22 AM] Randi Harper: squeee
[28/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Remy: RANDI CRACKIN THE CODE OVER HERE
[28/12/2014, 7:48:29 AM] Randi Harper: gotcha.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:30 AM] Remy: (ninja)
[28/12/2014, 7:48:38 AM] Randi Harper: man this is going to be intense.
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm sure they'd love to be able to use this to actively identify and track harassers
[28/12/2014, 7:48:49 AM] drinternetphd: he's on the white house subcomittee for tech and I know he's been pushing GG shit up there
This is about the end of the Chelsea content from the 4th Main Chat leak. We'll end it with this:
[28/12/2014, 7:52:07 AM] drinternetphd: internet should be a basic human right the way literacy should be
God damn that spaz about how all CP is evil followed by "nah it's cool if Rapp does it" years later is great. Moral relativism as an escape hatch.
I'll say this, a lot of the logs read basically the same as GG chats "how are they so dumb" and "oh they just have all this money" and "they're such idiots they don't even realize (person x) is just using them for money." The only real difference being that they stop and ass pat about how their feelings are hurt every few lines.
That and peter coffin is a twit... just always a twit.
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Incorrect. At best, it would have delayed the inevitable.
The Zoe Post happened immediately after the Brad Wardell scandal, which despite nobody giving a damn about, they would not shut the fuck up about. Then it was shown to be a hoax and they ran from it. The nanosecond that they kept saying "no story here" when they had done round-the-clock coverage of Wardell, they guaranteed that they'd get exposed. If they simply ignored it, it would have simmered away, until some dipshit or another finally cracked a nugget of truth and shared it, and we'd have been off to the races once again.
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Unlike Quinn, Anita had the good sense to keep her nose clean and not pozload my negholep. She let Katherine Cross/Quinae act as her proxy in dealing with CON, so if it something like the logs leaks happened, Anita had plausible deniability against accusations of colluding with doxers and harassers. Quinn, on the other hand, kept poking the bear by shitposting about "chasing gamergate off the chans" or writing articles on Cracked about how gamergate wants to rape and kill her for being the "leading feminist voice in video gaming".
Also unlike Quinn, Anita knew when to distance herself from those that were weighing her down. Once Josh's batshit insanity became too hard to ignore, Sarky kicked him to the curb. Same went for Cross when she got too invested in Chelsea's CON coffee klatch. Instead of cutting ties with pedos like Nick/Sarah Nyberg and Dan Olsen, Quinn keeps on palling around with them online.
Finally, another thing that Anita did that Quinn should have been taking notes on was quitting while you're still ahead. Once Anita saw that her bitching about games schtick was wearing thin and too many people were getting on her case for not delivering on Kickstarter promises 4 years later, she started up a new grift in another field. Quinn, on the other hand, is still at it, promising to make a FMV game that will most likely suck worse than Revolution 60.