Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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Long COVID/Zero COVID tards are definitely cows on their own. Thinking about trying my hand on an OP if work is slow and if I have enough spoons for the emotional labor of lurking among the most histrionic people on the internet. Yay or nay? Or is there such a thread already and I missed it? Pic for reference.

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Lol, I found a Kiwi sock:

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I know that I am a little late with this response but fapcop over in the reddit general thread has been doing a good job recently of documenting the crazy of covidiots so he would be a good person to talk to
 
I just listened to an interview with Lacey Spears from an old episode of 48 Hours the other night and wow, what a rabbit hole. She vehemently denies having done anything to Garnett, but the evidence is damning, and she comes across as more than slightly unhinged.
I happen to have been close to this case. She's a nutcase. Granted, the community she sought shelter with is full of nutcases (think homeopathy, alternative education, biodynamic farming, etc), but by and large they are well-meaning and extraordinarily kind nutcases hence why she was able to get away with the MBP for so long and leech off their kindness. She was very clever to sequester herself there with people for whom both illness and non-traditional treatment of the same was par for the course which makes me think it was 100% premeditated and that she went there with the intention of killing him via munch.

Garnett's death rocked the community and fucked up so many people.
 
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Well, that didn't take long.

Gypsy's husband, ladies and gentlemen. Gypsy would like to remind everyone that they have sex.

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Happy New Year, since I caught up on basically everyone I've ever talked about it's time to introduce a new batch.

Natalia Rijos, dba mylifeonwheels and chronically_floridian is a 23 year old Florida Woman currently living in the Tampa area but she’s not one of our Trevino girls. She was actually diagnosed while living in Houston, Texas, home of the largest medical complex on Earth, and considers herself fortunate that she was living there when her health problems started at age 12. She was able to see some of the best doctors with expertise in her condition right off the bat and get diagnosed properly and treated for it immediately. This didn’t prevent illness from becoming her identity and it’s only very recently that she’s come clean about what happened to her during her adolescent years in the hospital. Sort of. You'll see. It's funny, I promise.

Natalia is eleven when her account starts and she seemingly has no supervision online, which is a terrible idea because she has no problem sharing information like where she goes to school, her class schedule, and that she feels like an ugly loser that no one will ever love. Definitely not a groomer’s paradise. She is from Orlando, Florida as the name suggests.
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Sorry. This one requires a bit of “trust the process.” She is very, very young for much of her post history and it’s not my habit to post dramatic 12 year olds as I regularly remind myself how lucky I am that I did not grow up in the social media era and my embarrassing youthful bullshit is not immortalized for the world to see. So I will just say the following:

1) she kind of got in on the ground floor with a bunch of diagnoses doctors were not yet used to every attention-seeking teenage girl with a smartphone banging down their doors to get diagnosed with for instagram attention, which is interesting.
2) As an adult she has continued to be absolutely ridiculous albeit less active.
3) She has also started opening up about what she went through after an adolescence spent being pretty vague and refusing to answer most questions.
4) It happens to have an overlap with something we have been discussing at length in this thread and a pretty unique insight into it at that.

She seems to have made the account to keep up with her friends just before moving. She has very recently moved with her parents to Pearland, Texas in the suburbs of Houston.
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In October 2013 she starts trying to get modeling work.
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A few weeks later, she’s missing Florida and her friends, but she’s going home for the holidays and looking forward to it.
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December 16, our first health post: she sprained her hand.
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Two days later she’s had to leave school early to go to the ER. She doesn’t know what’s wrong with her hand but she can’t function.
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But by that night she’s fine, packing to go to Florida and all excited to see her friends. Normal stuff. She saw a doctor, the doctor treated her, now she is okay.
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Red flag #1: the parents try to punish her by taking her internet access away so she sneaks their devices to get on social media.
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This kid is trying to grow up way too fast. At 12 she’s sick of being single and thinks she’s too ugly to be loved.
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Keep your kids off social media, I beg you.
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January rolls around and she’s heading back to Texas.
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On the 7th, she’s going to the hospital to have X-rays and other tests.
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Two days later, going back.
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And again in two more days. She tells us its because her hand injury is getting worse and keeps swelling up at random
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Her first IV two days later. She’s getting an MRI done on her hand because it’s still super swollen.
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The next day she lets us know she’s having an unnamed surgery on the 15th.
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It gets delayed but she has it done on the 25 of January. They keep her a few days and she’s on the mend. You can see her arm is in a sling in the last photo.
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She wants to move back to Florida and to have a boyfriend. She’s struggled to make friends in Texas.
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The last procedure did not work. She’ll now be going in to get a nerve block done in her arm and she’ll have to stay hospitalized for a week or longer this time. We also learn what happened: she was horsing around with her dad and fell with her weight landing on the hand. Since then it’s been in pain and keeps swelling up and the doctors don’t know why. Under the spoiler I have some armchair shit, skip if you want but it discusses some of the things I’ve cut out because I’m uncomfortable with how young she is.
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I want to pause to explain that I am leaving out a lot of her posts. Natalia actually seems extremely unhappy about all of this although she occasionally finds things interesting, like her first IV or the stuff the Child Life team does for her while she’s hospitalized. For the most part she does not want to be going to the hospital all the time because it’s interfering with her attempts to make friends and fit into her new school. She talks about how all this medical shit is making her miss sports practices, social events, school and the other trappings of her normal tween girl life and that she feels like she’s seen by her peers as nothing but a chubby nerd who always has to go to the hospital. She complains about feeling isolated and like she's afraid to approach the other girls in her cohort because she doesn't know what they think of her

I don’t think she’s lying at this point. Something has gone wrong with her hand/wrist when she landed on it and the doctors aren’t sure what yet. Her parents and the doctors at are trying to get to the bottom of it while Natalia just wants these procedures and boring hospital stays to be over. Yes, she’s posting about this all for attention but I’ve left out the dozens of posts where she’s begging people to call her, text her, or come visit her while she’s stuck in there losing her mind to the sound of beeping monitors. She’s very much a 12 year old girl and she seems genuinely completely over this and just wanting to move on with life. More specifically, she wants her old life back. She wants to be back in Florida with her old friends where everything was normal.

Most of her posts while she’s hospitalized are about how boring and lonely the hospital is.
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But it’s occasionally fun, like when a local radio station comes to interview kids at the hospital and she gets chosen to participate.
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Or when her friends visit and bring her stuff.
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But nothing’s going right and she’s gotten bad news.
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It’s CRPS. But the good news is now that she has a real diagnosis and a treatment plan going forward, she’s headed back to school.
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She’s now going to treatment at the hospital every few days. It sounds like it’s physio.
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She’s cleared to get back to swimming.
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In early April she’s back at the ER and admitted. She doesn’t say what’s going on this time, just her usual asking people to visit her and being happy when people do. She’s especially thrilled that her older brother, who lives in Puerto Rico, came to visit her.
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April 6 she says the reason she's there is her "breathing is messed up."
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The next day she says she got more bad news and that school’s going to be different now, but doesn’t elaborate.
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On the 13th she’s finally discharged and going home. Her posts go back to normal with no big reveal.
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A few days later she’s back but it sounds like she’s just back in whatever regular therapies she was getting before her hospitalization.
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Everything’s fine until May 5 when she says they now might do a 48 hour EEG.
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On the 12th she’s back in the ER, admitted again for another week. She says she’s having “brain problems”. Still all she wants is to be home in Florida with her friends and not stuck alone in a hospital bed.
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Natalia is starting to make friends with the kids she’s in Children’s with all the time instead of her peers in school simply because she has more in common with them and they can relate to her life better than the other kids. You’ll start to see a bunch of other accounts with CRPS/medical-sounding handles showing up in her comments. These are often other young people being treated at the same hospital she is using and her responses to them often sound like she knows them IRL through there rather than just being circled by sickstagram vultures.
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Another normal kid incident. She sprained her ankle and now she has crutches and a walking boot. But she’s now started to lean much more into the attention-seeking we’re used to, leveraging these problems to get her few friends at school to pay special attention to her
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Being sick is significantly less fun when it’s summer break and she has to spend her days having 4-hour MRIs.
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She’s having trouble talking now. She’s told by her doctors not to talk for three days.
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She shows this as proof of CRPS flare. The Chelsea person in the comments is one of her physiotherapists.
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Boot still on in late July.
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Another surgery/procedure in August. She never really talks about what’s happening to her much. It's always just "a procedure" "another surgery" with little to no elaboration.
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And here we go. In September she calls herself a spoonie for the first time.
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October 1, she announces she has dysautonomia and she’s using it to try to test the loyalty of people.
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The big white one imprint 3 2 is Augmentin/amoxicillin and clavulanic acid and the shield-shaped one is Zantac/ranitidine. Not sure what anything else is. I’ll forgive the caption because she’s 13.
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She’s starting a dysautonomia vanity project. CPAC is Children’s Patient Advisory Council at Memorial Hermann, the children’s hospital at Texas Medical Center. It’s a group for 10-17 year old patients and former patients to voice their opinions and influence how the Child Life program is run. It helps the social workers et al understand the concerns of children in the hospital by discussing specific topics with a group of them.
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Here she is in some of their promotional materials using a wheelchair.
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I checked out this fighter_at_heart account she's talking about and lol hi Brynn.
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She also "featured" Natalia so we get a lot more info into what she’s been going through. She has CRPS, dysautonomia, and neurocardiac syncope. She’s in constant pain, passes out, and at school she’s just known as “hospital girl.”
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Sick and proud.
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And there’s our wheelchair. Her feet don’t work so now she’s rolling through life. So I'm gonna guess that the big reveal we never got was she thought she was going to get a wheelchair to use in school and it didn't happen until recently. I also want to point out that the hand injury/CRPS started with a sprain after she fell and suddenly after spraining her ankle her feet don't work and she needs a wheelchair.
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Her best friends are all sick kids now. I’m redacting the friend because while she was definitely an illness-as-identity account in the past, she has moved on with her life after a new treatment for her illness helped her manage her symptoms better.
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This is Natalia’s entire identity now and the days of not wanting to dwell on her health problems are over. She is Hospital Girl.
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Funny kid do funny kid thing. This is not a monitor, it is a TENS unit. Her classmates point out why she’s just “hospital girl” to them – it’s all she fucking talks about now.
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Other than whining that she has no friends because they’re all back in Florida. I do feel kind of bad for this kid because I don’t think she was faking at first. I think she probably did have some nerve shit going on from the hand injury and the anxiety about her life didn’t help her. That happened just weeks after she started at a new school where she knew no one and was the new kid in town, who from the start was seen as nerdy and chubby. It’s hard enough for a healthy kid who can participate in everything to be the new kid in school but two months after these kids first met her, she started having to leave school to go to the ER for her swollen arm, missed weeks for surgeries, had to quit her hobbies because of her hand, and spent her after school time at PT and OT instead of socializing. The only friends she really has in Texas are other sick kids, some of whom have or claim to have our usual diagnoses. And I think the desire to fit in somewhere had a lot of influence of how she’s acting now.
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Another trip home to Florida for Thanksgiving. She acts normal and has a good time.
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And back to Texas.
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This is her life now.
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First time she managed to get hospitalized on a holiday. She spends New Years in the hospital, after another long string of complaints that she’s single and has no friends in Texas.
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By the end of the week she’s been placed on homebound. For the next two months or longer, she’ll do school at home with a tutor stopping in twice a week.
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Emergency surgery in two days. That’s not exactly an emergency but fine. Urgent surgery.
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At the hospital, but the pic is her own bed.
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There we go, that’s a hospital bed. She said she just had surgery, but won’t tell anyone what or why. In this case it’s an epidural via catheter.
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A few days later she says she’s not being discharged and will spend a month at the Shriner’s hospital.
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Less than a week later she’s home. This is a pattern for her now. She claims things like that she'll be in the hospital for months or she'll have some kind of major surgery or test but it never materializes and she just moves on without ever mentioning it again. It's a very kid way to lie.
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Back for a CT scan a few days later.
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They love this “41 on the McGill Pain Index!!!” stat. I want to point out that Natalia has no problem getting her nails done in a salon. She does them at home a lot but she also shows off her acrylics and complains when a salon told her they won't do it.
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March, she announces that in two months she’ll be going to Mayo Clinic’s pain rehabilitation center. This is one of the best treatment centers for CRPS in the world and highly successful in treating young people. It’s CBT based. One of the things they stress there is not doing maladaptive pain behaviors (complaining about how much pain you’re in, moaning and grimacing excessively) or negativistic behaviors (refusing to use the affected area to avoid the pain) and desensitize patients to the pain they’re experiencing. This is the clinic that helped Mazzy Noriega’s friend and the reason she now tells “spoonies” to get off of social media and into therapy.
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I checked out this Rachel person in the comments because I was curious what Mayo Clinic diagnosed her with. Instead, hi Brynn. Why are you everywhere? (the answer is dysautonomia and GP but she’s another one who decided she’d rather be an entire adult than a list of diagnoses. Now she’s working, married, and has a baby on the way so we're leaving her alone.)
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The epidural infusion worked. She’s up and walking again.
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She gets a medical alert bracelet to let people know she has CRPS And dysautonomia because that’s really helpful for EMTs to know in an emergency.
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Everyone hates me just because I’m sick!
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This was a “prom” for chronically ill teens run by a vanity dysautonomia group. She’s on their website. They apparently stopped having this event about 8 years ago.
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she gets on Spanish-language news stations for it.
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Neurology.
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Look at my wheelchair!!!!
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In April she says it’s been three weeks since she ate, she’s having another surgery, and she might need a feeding tube.
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Today on kids don’t understand why the adults are reacting the way they are: she tells the doctor she wants the pink Co-flex bandage with purple hearts on it. She has not been told her options; she just knows this is one from experience and when the doctor is surprised she proceeds to list the other available options. The doctor says she must be sick a lot. She does not realize this interaction has little to do with the tape.
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Another surgery she doesn’t elaborate on but makes a ton of posts about. This is Memorial Hermann Children’s.
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May 1 she’s in the hospital again. She tries to play this off like a feeding tube but it’s the probe/sensor for esophageal manometry. It's to test for reflux and swallowing issues.
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She gets an infection from her IV.
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On May 7 she posts “to the ambulance!” and nothing else.
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She comes back a week later to say it’s week three in the hospital with three more to go. Ah right, it's May. She's in Mayo. Nope, I don’t think she’s left Texas. I watched a bunch of videos about Mayo’s pain rehab center and none of them match up with Natalia’s posts. She’s clearly in a hospital with a gown and bracelet, while Mayo is outpatient and everyone is in athletic attire. I honestly don’t even know if she was ever accepted to Mayo’s pain clinic. She mentioned that they were having trouble finding accommodations while they stayed there and Ronald McDonald House rejected their application. So maybe they were accepted and couldn’t afford it in the end. On the other hand, Natalia has just proven she will lie in that way only kids think is convincing, like taking a pic of a tens machine to say she's hooked up to monitors. It’s entirely possible she heard about Mayo’s pain clinic from one of the other patients at the hospital or her doctor and decided to tell her friends she was going there too because it sounds very legitimate. Another possibility is she was accepted and slated to go but out of anxiety or the possibility of a shinier prize (a feeding tube) she decided to spend that time in her local hospital and missed her opportunity. And still another is that, for whatever reason, her parents didn’t want her to do it. I know with some of those programs the parents are not allowed to be involved in treatment and that might have been enough for them to say no. And still another possibility is that Mayo decided she was not a good fit after all. There’s a whole lot of reasons you get rejected from those clinics like if you are unwilling to go off your pain meds or they feel you’re not going to engage with the program. There's a pretty good wait list to get in so they're not going to waste time on your attempt to prove that it didn't work when there's someone else on the list who desperately wants to get back to life.
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Anyway tl;dr she’s in Texas, not at Mayo clinic, and she’s seeing a cardiologist who says her POTS has become very severe. Wow yeah can’t have anything to do with her not walking for months. Starting to claim allergies also there’s a hole in her heart.
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Only ones I recognize are the yellow/orange (gabapentin) and the blue and white one might be propranalol. Little white round guy may be famotidine.
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By the end of the month she’s discharged but saying she needs surgery to repair the holes in her heart now.
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June 5th she goes in for this surgery, saying her tests were all positive and she needs a 5 hour heart cath surgery. She’ll be getting an Ng tube as well. In the comments, she lets people know she’s moving back to Florida.
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She updates the next day to show off the nose hose. Pretty sure this is a manometry probe again and in any case it's gone very fast.
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A day later, says she needs another surgery.
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She wants to see The Fault in Our Stars but she’s stuck in the hospital.
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Bowel prep.
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Blood pressure through the roof. Egads kiddo.
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She’s discharged after three weeks and all smiles because she got to see TFiOS.
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Later that week she’s heading back to Florida.
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She does the Disney thing.
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She shows off that she worked hard and learned to walk after being in a wheelchair with CRPS pain.
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If you didn’t see this coming, you must be new here. A lot of times these girls only do better temporarily because they know in the long run, it has a greater emotional impact on their friends and family. Think of someone like Paige who was just always declining and having a new crisis and by the end you’re going “oh my god just die if you’re going to die.” Now compare it to, IDK, Faith Morfitt who has periods where she’s doing exceptionally well and all the jesus people tell her she’s proof the Lord is merciful and can perform miracles and then whoops, whatever miracle cure she had stops working and they all weep again and pray for her again.
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And the same day she’s home she’s back in the hospital.
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Claiming she’s fluent in ASL. She's never mentioned this before nor having a deaf person in her family.
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Her CRPS is now in both hands and both feet up to her knees, she’s had heart and shoulder surgery and the epidural cath.
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She’s leaving Texas and headed back to Florida permanently. She’ll still be back for appointments. That’s quite a long commute.
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Selling shirts to pay for treatment.
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On August 13, 2014 she sees her new cardio in Florida for the first time.
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So she’s moved back to Florida but not to her old city. She used to be in Orlando and now she’s in Lutz, a suburb of Tampa. She’s once again the new girl in school except this time she’s already got an identity that makes her stand out from the crowd: she’s hospital girl. She's the girl in the wheelchair.
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Suddenly claiming a gluten allergy she’s never claimed before.
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And she will never stop reminding her new classmates that she’s very sick and needs lots of medical care.
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Look at my wheelchair! It has no footplates. Not just that they’re not on it now because it’s still partially packed but for the entire time she uses this any time you can see the whole chair there’s no footplate. She puts her feet on the ground while she’s sitting still. It appears she self-propels with a mix of the pushrims and scooting with her feet and while she’s being pushed by someone she crosses her feet at the ankles to elevate them. Nothing about this says “severe CRPS pain in my feet”
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Two days later: don’t look at my wheelchair!
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She is fully embracing this and bragging about how it gets her out of school early every day.
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This 14 year old girl alone is strong enough for this burden of an off-the-rack wheelchair for attention.
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She hates PT and often complains about how much she doesn’t want to go.
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First hospitalization in her new home city and already begging people to visit.
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With a big old smile and her IV held high, she announces she can’t even drink and it’s been five days.
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She is getting a GES.
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On the 22nd of October she tells us she’s been hospitalized for vomiting and for the last week she couldn’t even keep water down. She has severe gastroparesis and will have a feeding tube placed. She’s currently at St. Joseph’s Children’s in Tampa but might get transferred to Arnold Palmer in Orlando to see a specialist.
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She’s so sad to have it.
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Lol never mind. She loves it and especially loves that she got to spend her birthday in the hospital.
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Discharged with the nose hose on October 25
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At least she’s wearing compression garms.
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On the 28th she posts from outside Arnold Palmer saying she needs another surgery tomorrow.
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But that’s great because it’s in Orlando and all her old friends can visit now!
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We got the Sad Walrus combo!! Pretty sure the clear one is the probe for esophageal manometry again. It’s gone within a day or two again.
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If you love me you’ll do this.
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Does Friday really mean much when your entire day is three hours of school then fucking around online?
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Needless to say she’s just posting to show off her latest prize, like she did with the chair.
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She can’t go on roller coasters or anything that has movement. So cars? Wheelchair? A rolling office chair? Out of the question.
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Hey did you guys know she has a wheelchair and a feeding tube?
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Hah! I was going to say she didn't get the magic nectar but this was before Creamy, Delicious Kate Farms began their aggressive social media presence.
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The doctor at Arnold Palmer agrees she has gastroparesis and wants to try a pacemaker before they do a more permanent tube.
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More importantly. Natalia wants you to give her stuff because she’s sick at christmas time.
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But if she wasn’t sick she wouldn’t have met other girls who ensure she’ll always be sick.
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I know teenagers are dramatic attention seekers but it’s literally every post now. I need surgery, look at my tube, look at my pole, look at my chair. . .
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Medical drama less fun when it interferes with Christmas break.
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Don’t worry. The church ladies at her new church collected money for her and her family to offset the price of her care.
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I know, so far this is the story of a young girl who doesn't fit in to her new school(s) and instead befriends the other sick kids at her children's hospital and probably has some FND/conversion disorder shit going on. Sad, but not exactly what we're here for. Don't worry, it gets way more interesting from here on out and I promise there is a very good reason I picked her. Don't spoil the ending if you know it, please. :heart-full:
 
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Only ones I recognize are the yellow/orange (gabapentin) and the blue and white one might be propranalol. Little white round guy may be famotidine.
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I'm with you on the propranolol XR.
The orange, round pills might be hydroxyzine, but that's not definite. They're the same color and sheen as senna/docusate covered tabs, but they look too small. I want the beige gel to be lubiprostone, but the shape is too elongated.
 
I'm with you on the propranolol XR.
The orange, round pills might be hydroxyzine, but that's not definite. They're the same color and sheen as senna/docusate covered tabs, but they look too small. I want the beige gel to be lubiprostone, but the shape is too elongated.

The larger white one has the imprint 235 I believe.

Possibly paracetamol or a paracetamol variation (eg those with added caffeine).

Edit: Just checked Midodrine (a medication for low blood pressure) fits and makes more sense.
 
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Natalia Rijos part 2. In Part 1 Natalia moved from her home in Florida to Texas and almost immediately suffered an injury that caused CRPS in her hand. Being a nerdy fat girl in a new school with a weird medical problem made her radioactive amongst her peers so she fell in with some other spoonies from her children’s hospital. She embraced the sick role claiming the CRPS spread to her legs and now she needed a wheelchair while trying to slide into zebra territory. After almost three years in Texas they returned to Florida where she got to start all over again with a new school and be the brave spoonie warrior who doesn’t let her illness get her down. We ended with her starving herself to a feeding tube after finding a sympathetic pediatric gastroenterologist at a hospital two hours from her home. But that was all the boring intro stuff. Here’s where the batshit starts.

She starts hanging out with this other very young girl who is in a wheelchair and refers to her as “my spoonie sis.” It’s not her actual sister, who is healthy and very functional.
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And we’re off. She’s getting ketamine for her CRPS soon and will also have some long surgeries. Please buy stuff for her.
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Surgery 1: a broviac line. She’s worried because last time she had GA it went badly. Also man that is a short nasal tube.
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Let’s just say surgery didn’t go the way they wanted it to . . . No, she won’t tell people what happened but she got her broviac so it’s fine in the end
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She gets her first ketamine infusion through it a few days later. She now has amassed a larger following of spoonies instead of just the kids who were at her clinics.
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Look, she has a nasal cannula! Now she’s just like the girl in The Fault in Our Stars, Hazel Grace Lancaster!!! That character has thyroid cancer that metastasized to her lungs and is actively killing her.
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Yeah the “spoonie sis” is another CRPS kid who gets ketamine for it.
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At the same clinic, on the same days. Jesus wept.
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Claims she has not “attend or drink” since October when she was tubed. It’s now coiled up in her stomach and she can’t run feeds. Headed to the ER to replace it.
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Holy moly this seems like a whole lot of drug for a little girl. 800 mg ketamine, up from 200mg and the doctor keeps ordering more infusions to her treatment plan. Also versed, valium, and lidocaine. Why the two benzos??
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For weeks and weeks all she does is post about her ketamine infusion days. It's kind of funny because I am a Certified Old who can't separate ketamine from club culture and can't stop being baffled that these kids are getting almost a gram of k IV then sleeping for days. I know it's supposed to be therapeutic but my brain's like ...that's like doing a mondo dose of pure MDMA then staying home to read a book.
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She’s going to Shands in Gainesville for a gastric pacemaker trial in April. If it doesn’t work they’ll move on to a GJ tube. Shands is part of the University of Florida system and it’s about 2 hours north of her home in Lutz.
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Sees her GI in Orlando, two hours east of her home in Lutz. This doctor thinks her CRPS is doing better but her GP is doing worse. Even liquids don’t even pass the fundus. The fundus is the upper most part of the stomach that kinda balloons upwards and the junction with your esophagus is kinda below that so wouldn’t liquid go straight down just from gravity alone? Unless the esophageal opening isn’t uh, opening. Her pancreas levels are all low. But good news! She’s starting daily IV saline infusions at home now!
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Until then she’s running water into her tube. Why not continue to do this?
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This is a The Fault in Our Stars reference.
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Absolutely no personality outside of this.
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And why would she need one when being an internet sick kid gets her all the attention and free shit she desires?
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Time for her gastric stim trial. They’re remove her NJ, place the temp stim with leads, and if she improves they’ll place a more permanent one. If not, a GJ tube, or maybe both. Then once that’s done she’s flying back to Houston to attend sick kid prom and see her old cardio at Memorial Hermann for an appointment.
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Home saline infusions start in early April.
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Stim time. The blue thing in her nose is the lead and the actual device is in the little pouch on her chest. Everything went wrong!! she had a headache, then they woke her up early, then she threw up all over the place, then the pre-op was late and surgery didn’t even START until 3!!! Her room isn’t private and her roommate has a vent!! do you know how inconvenient it is to be in the hospital next to someone who actually needs to be there??? She’s refusing to eat, drink, or take oral meds during the trial to see if these things are improved by the stim and they tell her tough titties.
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She throws up every time they try to feed her. Even juice causes nothing but pain and bloating.
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The doctor asks her about her symptoms and has “a scary look of disapproval” as she tells him she’s worse than ever.
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Eats a waffle. She threw up but It Was Worth It! They’re not willing to place a GJ or a different stim because it would potentially set off the CRPS again.
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Leads come out, new tube goes in. This time they bridle her and she hates it.
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It’s because she was complaining that she got an adhesive rash from the tegaderm tape on her face, not because they think she’s yanking on it.
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Girl who complained that everyone in school just saw her as a fat nerd is definitely upset that she’s losing weight now.
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“Ketamine drunk” but so excited for sick kid prom!
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She’s unbridled herself and gone back to tegaderm for the occasion.
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She also claims she gets a “hangover” from traveling so much.
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She wins so much free shit at sick kid prom!! Sadly they made her share some with the others.
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She (kind of) names her cardio, Dr. Muhammed Numan, a pediatric cardiologist who specializes in autonomic dysfunction. She gets an echo and labs. Weird that she travels all this way to see a cardio when she has one back in Florida. There's nothing interesting I can find about this guy.
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She gets cake and other goodies. She’s sure she’ll regret it but it will be Worth It!
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A horrible airport employee drops her when she’s transferring from her chair and now her CRPS is back. She’s going to have to do ketamine all over again. Oh noooooo.
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A doctor at the infusion clinic tells her she needs inpatient pain rehab which is what she was supposed to get at Mayo but never did. She gets a script for AFOs and Swedish knee braces which are to prevent hyperextension of the knee. We know where this is going!
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As Natalia ages from a young tween who hates being in the hospital to a teenager who constantly comes up with new reasons she needs to be there and rejects any treatment plan that doesn’t result in more surgeries and stronger drugs, people start to doubt her story. Even her own family constantly reminds her if she got up and did normal teen girl shit once in a while instead of laying in bed thinking about how sick she is she’d probably feel better.
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Kids do the darnedest things, like trying to give away their unneeded feeding tube formula and illustrating the post with poptarts.
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Her home health nurse gives her her very own purple pulse ox!!!
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she sees the GI motility doc in Orlando who wants to continue the IV infusions, but won’t give her a GJ either for the same reason Shands gave her – it might set off the CRPS even worse. She’s getting a new medication from Canada that isn’t domperidone which she’s already on. And her doctor thinks she has a tissue disorder that has paralyzed her digestive tract, gosh wonder what that could be. So this is interesting. Natalia doesn’t really discuss much what she’s taking. We know she gets ketamine + benzos at her infusions, and I assume opiates are at least occasionally in the mix given the GI problems. If she wants to keep her drugs she has to keep saying they’re working for the CRPS but then she doesn’t get the other stuff she wants like a surgical tube because everyone’s afraid to set the CRPS off again.
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Charles Mattock, nephew of Bob Marley, was crowdfunding for a documentary about CRPS because his mother has it. Natalia might be chosen to share her experiences in the film.
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The ketamine treatments wipe her out for days.
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She now wears bifocals.
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It Was Worth It.
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She still hates PT.
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She was chosen to STAR! in the documentary. They filmed her all day!!
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The innocent days when people didn’t realize “ruining fun family holiday times with medical drama” was a munchie trope.
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She gets to use the scooty at walmart. Why not have her in her wheelchair and have mom push the cart? Probably because she can’t propel herself, I guess.
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All her diseases flare when weather exists.
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Nat goes to Orlando to see a pulmonologist. He gives clear indication that he thinks nothing is wrong with her and it’s in her head but signs her up for a sleep study to be sure.
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While in Orlando she visits her old friends. She can’t hang like she used to and has a dramatic decline because of it.
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June, filming again, this time during one of her ketamine infusions.
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Headed to Miami for rheumatology. Danger, warning, red flags abound. Miami is a cool 4-5 hours from her home depending on traffic. There’s plenty of pediatric rheumatologists in Central Florida where she lives. Most of the major children’s hospitals and their outpatient care centers are located up by her (Nemours, AdventHealth Children’s, Arnold Palmer, John’s Hopkins All Children’s, St. Joe’s, Shands). All this says to me is they found a doctor who was known for diagnosing a specific condition and went to him.
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Yep. That doctor is “certain” she has EDS and is worried about her heart and eyes because of it. She wants Natalia to see a geneticist. I should point out that in addition to swimming she was also a gymnast. She seems to have trained in Orlando as a kid then started at a new gym in Texas, but quit shortly after her hand injury. She was not competition level but even little kid hobby gymnasts have to work on flexibility.
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The sleep study happens.
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Turns out nothing is wrong and she’s furious about that. There’s no explanation for some problem with her breathing while she sleeps. So, respiratory depression from all the medication she takes? A somewhat creative attempt to get oxygen prescribed so she can live out her Hazel Grace Lancaster fantasies? Or… maybe someone is telling her she has this problem and she’s believing it because she’s asleep when it happens and doesn’t know better. When we’re discussing a kid is as young as Natalia was when she started, I always assume they can’t actually keep up the act independently well enough to fool doctors and that the doctors are heavily relying on their parents’ word. It’s entirely possible Natalia's initial CRPS was real and now thanks to drugs and practice/lack of identity outside this she fakes well enough. But it could also be that Natalia is being influenced by one of the parents and either believes what they’re telling her or plays the role they’re expecting her to play out of a desire for parental approval.
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For the record, her mother is educated and works in an education-related field, but she’s not a medical professional. Her father is also well educated but in a very narrow field and now works for a payday loan company in a management position. The man’s got kids, the kids need food and medical care, and that company is paying for it, it happens. Natalia’s family is still together at this point in the timeline. Her father, Kenneth, is something of a mystery. I only found him through court divorce records after she made a post very recently that mentioned she’s estranged from him. She doesn’t seem to have a bad relationship with him as a kid and mentions things like him bringing her toys or snacks while she’s in the hospital and telling her she’s brave for going through what she’s gone through, that he took her out somewhere special or whatever. In 2020 her parents got divorced. Her mother was awarded a default judgement in the divorce indicating dad didn’t file anything in response to her petition. There’s no other court records for him in Hillsborough or neighboring counties, criminal or civil. He lives in Odessa, just outside of Lutz, now. From FastPeopleSearch I can find him living at a different address in Lutz since 2017, so if that’s accurate then it looks like they were separated long before Natalia’s mom filed for divorce and it’s also possible that their marriage was already going to shit by 2015 when Natalia posted this. Just some context I thought might help.
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Claiming she’s diagnosed EDS now.
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“the fake smile” of satisfaction that her tube might be fucked.
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They’re having to stay over in Orlando for this particular experience, in a nice hotel called the Gaylord Palms right outside Disney World. Mostly posting this to show that no really, her wheelchair has no foot plates and she just kind of scoots around in it. Not the configuration I would want if my feet were in constant desperate nerve pain from CRPS. But also lmao @ a hotel that mostly caters to the disney set discriminating against a kid in a wheelchair.
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She sees the pulmonologist again but doesn’t let us know what he said.
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A week later we move on to hearing loss.
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She’s going to the Center for Courageous Kids in Kentucky which is a camp for kids with medical issues. Every week they have a different medical group in so one week it’s autism, one week it’s spina bifida, and the week she goes to is pediatric pain disorders. So not something like Mayo’s pain clinic but just a summer camp experience in an accessible location with adaptive activities, where they have medical staff on hand to deal with her issues.
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What an entitled little shit. They pick these kids up from the airport in a limousine and her comment is “I’ve been in better limos.”
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She has a week at camp and has no issues.
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Even when she does archery. What’s her pain issue again? I thought it had something to do with her hands and joints.
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she gets home and no one understands her pain.
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I have no idea what kind of braces these are. I thought AFOs but they don't continue down to her foot. What ever they are, we never see them again but that might just be an artifact of her only shooting selfies from the chest up.
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She has so many awareness shirts now. It’s wild.
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Back to PT.
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Okay that’s a new one for me. Custom hospital gown that she bought online and brings to the hospital with her so she doesn’t have to wear theirs. I didn’t even know that’s something you’d be allowed to do. She gets a doppler ultrasound.
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Claiming extremely severe GP and that the reason she can’t eat and hasn’t in almost a year is that the top of her stomach is so paralyzed that as soon as food enters from her esophagus it rejects. If by some miracle it doesn’t, then the bottom of her stomach rejects it. Well I’m no doctor but that sure doesn’t sound right to me. She hasn’t eaten since her birthday. So remember that pic where she gleefully held up her IV and announced it had been 5 days since she ate or drank? Yeah that was 5 days after her birthday dinner. Also remember when she was claiming a gluten allergy? This restaurant does not even pretend to have gluten free pasta options. This is also an outright lie as she showed herself eating waffles and french toast in the hospital after her tube and also the bundt cakes and homemade pizzas and stuff.
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She sees genetics. They tell her she doesn’t have EDS and she’s hurt and angry and confused. Other doctors said she did have it! But the fun is in the comments. Nemours sent her away every time she went for being too complex but she names the good doctors she sees.
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Dr. Gomez is not going to be found – there’s like 20 PCPs just in 10 minutes of her home with that surname. But it's easy to find Dr. Shaista Safder at Arnold Palmer, mostly works with preemies with feeding issues and kids with Crohns and Ulcerative Colitis. If you go on her website she has very good reviews except…
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...even most of the negative reviews have five stars. User error maybe, but it’s not an insignificant number of five star reviews saying the appointment went terrible or was canceled without notice. It’s very odd. Regardless she seems like an actual good doctor, not one of our diagnosis mills.
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Here’s the thing though. The reviews only go back to the last two years and none of them were from gastroparesis moms screaming that she was the only one to give their kid the feeding tube they needed even though these girls discussing her are definitely GP warriors who claim she’s the only one who saw their pain. They’re all talking about how their kid had terrible Crohns or she fixed their baby’s obstructed bowel and saved his life. So I think this is like something we saw with Denae Manchester. She went to an allergist named Dr. Mariana Castells who at first sounded like she was 100% on board with Denae’s MCAS diagnosis and was going to do all the things she wanted including continuous diphenhydramine infusion and home oxygen. Over the year or two that Denae saw her, Castells changed her tune and the reviews of her from denae and other MCAS truthers started to sour. You could almost see her realize that her name was being passed around in these weird munchie circles where they told each other which doctors were most compliant and what to say to get the toys. Eventually she fired Denae entirely after denae refused to try a reasonable treatment. Castells now seems to tell the MCAS girls to take a hike. I can’t say for sure that’s what happened here but I’ve noticed in a few of these girls who kind of “got in on the ground floor” that their doctors are no longer the golden ticket they used to be and it seems they were just in the right place at the right time to get diagnosed, before every girl with a tummyache and a smartphone started saying they needed a feeding tube for gastroparesis.

Another “if you love me you’ll do this.” Teenage girls are kind of manipulative shits by default but man, if she didn’t learn this trick young and learn it well.
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Faking sick does not get her out of Mass.
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Paper Towns is based on a novel by the same guy who wrote The Fault in Our Stars. This one is not about cancer kids but is about a girl from Florida who fakes a deep artistic personality then disappears, leading her childhood crush to travel across the country to find her. He does and realizes the girl he thought he loved didn’t exist and he created an idealized version of her in his head. It’s apparently much better than TFiOS. (Ive never read either, lol)
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She’s enrolled in school but can’t start until her accommodations are in order.
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Fascinating. So this is her warrior beads and the colors symbolize things. According to their website, dark blue is for regular outpatient doctor visits. Red is ER trips. Yellow is inpatient days. Lime green is any kind of IV or tube. Darker green is feeding tube. Black is blood draws. Orange is IV medications. Olive green is imaging. Hearts are for EKGs and other cardiac procedures. Silver is central line. Tan is bed rest days. Clear yellow is days of school missed. Light blue is NPO. White is ambulance. Grey is dressing changes. Light blue is braces and casts. They’re made for much younger children. She also started working on hers a while ago which is why things like the feeding tube/central line beads start at the center (the beginning of the bead chain), but the ones on the outer rings are new. She says pink is for oxygen but it’s any respiratory support so basic asthma treatments would count. She really wants people to think she has this Hazel Grace Lancaster life but I’m gonna guess the reality is more albuterol-y.
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Starting school late because they don’t have the accommodations she needs ready. Hasn’t specified what they are at this point but in a later post she says she has a full-time aide who is the only one allowed to push her chair and if she needs to move at all this person has to be the one to do so. No one else is allowed to help her and from the sounds of it she’s not allowed to independently move around the school so once she’s in one place she’s there until the aide can bring her to the next place.
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She gives us the location of her ketamine clinic: Florida Spine Institute, which has clinics in Clearwater, Palm Harbor, St Pete’s, and Tampa. They currently offer many treatments including epidural steroid infusions like the ones Natalia got in Houston, botox, PT, and trigger point injections along with the ketamine Natalia goes there for.
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She starts school and is sent home because the AC is broken and she’s heat intolerant.
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And for the third time in five years, she’s the new girl at school and doesn’t know anyone and feels out of place
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Of course she wants to be a nurse.
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Filming again during her ketamine treatments.
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Her broviac is fucked and she’s getting TPA in an attempt to unfuck it. The hospital doesn’t believe in CRPS. I mean, I’m sure they believe in the real kind where your affected limb swells up and turns purple, just not in the special whole-body invisible kind that only responds to high dose narcotics.
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She turns 15. It’s only a reminder of how long she’s gone without being able to eat. She doesn’t even want to celebrate.
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But she does. Her parents throw her a surprise quinceanera party with all her friends from Orlando coming in to make the day special. So at this point her parents seem to, at the very least, still be holding it together for the sake of their kids.
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At this point she has lost a lot of weight. She’s not the fat nerd she was in Texas anymore.
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On October 22, 2015 she posts that she’s flying out somewhere again.
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Next post is at Wisconsin Children’s. GES #3 and she pukes up the eggs before the test starts. They call the test immediately. The other tests she’s supposed to be having were denied by insurance.
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She has autonomic testing and everything about it was bad and now her CRPS is flaring up again. Ketamine please!!! Potsie Nicole in the comments.
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Holter monitor for 48 hours.
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Of course, just having all these tubes and a wheelchair and medical drama isn’t enough anymore. In 2015 she “comes out” as bisexual to all her friends and family. This is only one of many posts she made about it.
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And has a bunch of girls at her new school buy her tee shirts so they can wear them and show off their fealty to her.
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Can’t eat or drink anything (except starbies when she’s out with friends).
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Another day, another k-hole.
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New Neuro. Hoping this one can help her. Doesn’t specify what she’s there for.
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No tube!! It got kinked in her stomach after many months and had to be replaced. She did this all with no sedative. Not even the ketamine her mother administers at home to take the edge off. Oh.
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The CRPS documentary is finished and she gets to go to a private screening. She was not the “star” but one of many interviewed to back up the story of Mattock’s moms CRPS and ketamine treatments. Some of the others showed some real gnarly swollen and red/purple limbs, but Natalia is not one of them. She just gets filmed getting a dose of sedative before her ketamine and dozing off, talking about how much she hates school and has no friends, and she wants to die now. The endcard for her says she’s not in remission but has much less pain from the treatment. You can watch the whole thing here if you are so inclined. I just tabbed through a little.
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She’s basically getting ketamine ‘round the clock these days. She has botox to see if it will help with her GP but she’s still vomiting chicken broth and red jello, the only things she’s allowed to eat. It’s kind of fun, I’m almost certain she is either doing this on purpose or has some serious somatic vomiting that’s making her vomit whenever she tries to eat, something she may not even realize she's doing intentionally (as in rumination syndrome).
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At last. I can bury the lede no deeper. On her right (our left) is Dr. Ashraf Hanna of the Florida Spine Institute, her pain management doctor who prescribes her high dose ketamine treatments. Many of you already know the punchline here but Dr. Hanna is the same one who treated Maya Kowalski of Take Care of Maya fame, taking over her care after the family could not afford to keep seeing the doctor who prescribed the ketamine coma in Mexico, Anthony Kirkpatrick. Hanna is the one who was signing off on 1000mg doses of ketamine daily for a ten year old child and the last time Natalia told us her dose it was 800mg in the clinic plus benzos on top. Hanna refused to increase the dose any higher despite Beata’s demands and eventually decided if the extraordinarily high doses she was receiving were not adequate to control her pain then Beata had to accept that this treatment had failed and move on. Maya was still a patient of Dr. Hanna’s at this time and her mother was still alive, although (much as I wished she was), she was not the "spoonie sister" Natalia was getting infusions with at the start of this. Hanna's clinic pretty much only nominally offers other treatments and their bread and butter is their cash-only ketamine infusion clinic loved by munchies and munchausen moms alike.
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It’s feeding tube awareness week. Are you aware Natalia has a feeding tube? Because you should be.
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Still losing weight. She feels like a normal kid, not a lonely handicap one, when she gets to do normal teen girl stuff with other teen girls. Incredible.
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Another day to be aware of Natalia. Remember when genetics told her she didn’t have EDS? Fuck that, she’s got it because she says so.
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For a brief moment she seems almost sad thinking about how much of her life she’s giving up for this.
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“I’m sick and slowly dying but euphoria will keep me flying.” Someone please take this girl’s ketamine away.
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In late April after no real updates she lets us know she had another round of ketamine infusions. A week later her blood pressure was very low. The 15th she woke up with a fever, the first she’s ever had in her life (wow) and the doctor suspects her central line is infected. While waiting on cultures she suddenly spikes another fever, her BP and heart rate go through the roof, and her mom takes her to the ER. The ER doctors immediately admit her for potential sepsis. She’s put on heavy duty antibiotics but they also find the line is colonized by yeast. Right before discharge, another, stronger bacteria shows up in her line and the yeast comes back so the line is pulled.
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As with all these girls, she seems completely unaware of the danger she’s in and just complains that the doctor didn’t follow her special protocol for IV placement and now her CRPS is flaring. She’ll be in the hospital another three weeks or so while they clear the infection and place a new central line.
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Three weeks later she’s out with a new central line and she’s headed to Puerto Rico once school ends.
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Another vacation where she feels fine and does what she wants, but this time instead of the miraculous I-can-walk-no-I-can’t act she has her parents rent a beach wheelchair for her. I want to point out how little muscle mass there is on her legs. Compare her to some of our other girls who clearly walk around just fine when the cameras are away. Natalia does not appear to be one of the ones who gets home and drops the wheelchair act or puts it away when it’s inconvenient. Which again makes me wonder who exactly is the puppetmaster here. Is Natalia just incredibly committed for a 16 year old, with all the willpower only the young and foolhardy can truly harness? Is Momma Ketamine making sure her little attention-accessory never exposes herself by keeping her drugged to the tits? Is it a little of both? Natalia knows if she plays along she gets drugs on tap and mom still gets to be the CRPS warrior mama? The other thing I want to point out is unlike a lot of our girls who get their tubes and balloon up, Natalia is losing weight. She does not have the type of tube she could be using to purge her stomach contents but we rarely get the It Was Worth It meals from her. Again, maybe she’s just a very committed faker and her willpower only takes a backseat to her desire to be a normal teenage girl once in a while, maybe the constant ketamine treatments and maternal supervision are keeping her from unleashing her inner fatass. Maybe through conversion disorder she really does involuntarily vomit if she tries eating. Who really knows at this point? We know Natalia loves the attention, but there’s just something so very different about this one than our average port-n-purge zebras.
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Speaking of attention, as a teenager from Orlando who claims to be bisexual, the Pulse Nightclub shooting is about meeeee!
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Her friends and neighbors donate money so that Natalia can go to Disney. She quietly slips Mast Cell Activation Disorder into the hashtags. MCAD is the umbrella diagnosis that covers things like systemic mastocytosis (a definitely real disease diagnosable by bone marrow biopsy) and mast cell activation syndrome, the munchie favorite that is usually cover for an eating disorder and/or anxiety which has no clear diagnostic markers and arguably does not exist. Like CFS I think there’s some unknown disorder or constellation of disorders and lifestyle shit that causes MCAS symptoms in a very rare subset of the human population but that it’s basically impossible to pinpoint and now that every faker who doesn’t want to get a job has discovered the magic acronym we’ll never know.
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Back to sick kid camp where she once again does archery and a bunch of other activities with no issues.
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Now claiming her entire GI tract is paralyzed but NJ feeds work just fine and she’s not complaining of any bowel problems beyond constipation that is almost definitely drug-induced, based on how many times she's mentioned zofran.
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tube is fucked again. I want you to notice something about this and the possible sepsis story. Both times she says her mom didn’t want her to be seen by an emergency doctor, but eventually has to because Natalia declines so much. There’s a few ways to interpret this, which include that Mom is recognizing that Natalia is constantly malingering for medical attention/does not think these are emergencies, or that Mom is trying to avoid the ER doctors because she knows they are more prone to question things. Hmm, I do wonder which one it is! She drops her tube rate down to 20mL.
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She turns 16 so high on ketamine that she can’t even remember her sisters bringing her balloons and cake. October 2016. Two days prior to this photo, Maya Kowalski was placed in protective custody at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital after her mother demanded insane doses of ketamine and rejected all other possible treatments, while making ominous statements about potentially overdosing her daughter at home to end her suffering because Maya no longer wanted to live.
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God why do those breast cancer patients get all the attention? If you really love me, you won’t wear pink this month. You’ll wear blue, for me and my non-fatal slightly annoying passy-outy disease. Interesting choice of pictures. It's from Texas, when she had her heart surgery. I guess she thinks it makes her look super sick.
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The Disney Trip. Things to note include the soda cup wedged next to her, although I suppose it could belong to one of the other girls, and that she appears to have gained weight since her Puerto Rico trip six months earlier. It’s hard to tell because she’s seated which makes her thighs look wider, and she so rarely posts clear body shots.
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Cutting out this photo because many kids. it’s like all her friends and their families wearing orange shirts with her team Natalia logo, surrounding her and her mother.
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She starts a nail art account. Again maybe not the hobby I would get into if I had crippling pain in my hands.
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Medical update, her relative hits her on the knee and sets off another CRPS flare. No, she won’t show us this actual proof that her leg is swollen and purple. Wonder why. Her gastroparesis is stable but she’s been diagnosed with gallbladder issues. On 13 January she will finally be getting her GJ tube, after every treatment for gastroparesis has failed. In this year she wants to look into the neck pain all of her doctors and physios keep blowing off and to get on a higher dose of steroids for her POTS after every doctor she asked to do this said no. She can’t wait until October when she’ll turn 18 and be medically emancipated. Oh. Wow. Okay.
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On that note, four days after this post Beata Kowalski killed herself. I’m sure people who followed that case heard that she hanged herself, but did you hear the part where she also had and IV bag of an unknown clear fluid hooked up to her and that the fluid was never tested and disposed of so we may never know what it was barring new toxicology labs on the exhumed remains? Or that she had recently filled a bunch of prescriptions for things like liquid ketamine under the name of a Dr. Barr who had no record of ever prescribing them and some of them were well outside the scope of his practice? Or that some of the experts who examined the suicide scene evidence disputed that the hanging was the cause of death and actually think she was dead of an overdose before the belt went around her neck? Or that she had a note on her phone that just said “Retaliation”? How about the part where the infamous “Take care of Maya” note actually said “Take care of Maya but don’t let her suffer. No child deserves to live like that.” Man the Netflix documentary about this case sure did leave out some pretty interesting things, didn’t it?

Isn't this great? Funny enough, I had no idea of any of this when I started archiving her account. I just saw the name chronically_floridian while looking for Trevinettes in their natural habitat of Instagram. I thought it was going to be just another chick with a Tilite and a disney annual pass we could giggle at. Up next: Natalia posts less but says so much more.
 
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Okay that’s a new one for me. Custom hospital gown that she bought online and brings to the hospital with her so she doesn’t have to wear theirs. I didn’t even know that’s something you’d be allowed to do. She gets a doppler ultrasound
It's very common with kids who are sick in cancer or have some other disease that makes them spend a lot of time in hospitals.
https://www.bravegowns.com/ have gowns for adults too and I guess it can be nice to have a choice in what to wear if you have to spend a lot of time in a hospital bed but still needs access to lines and such so regular comfy clothes aren't an option.

How do I know? Because Instagram reels show me sickly kids, jesus freaks/fundamentals, muscle mommies and women whose content is all surrounding their enormous brests.
And I have no fucking idea why.
 
I'm sorry if this isn't the best thread to post this but I know it's been discussed before and I just need to to be MATIRL.

I'm so damn tired of all this "emotional support animal" bullshit. I work in healthcare and we get a request for an ESA letter at least once a week. I'm usually the letter-writer but I have made it abundantly clear that this goes against my morals and I make other people do it. 99% of the time it's just people who already leech off the welfare state wanting to avoid paying the pet fee for an apartment. Pet fees can be super high but it's overhead for the damage a pet is likely to cause. If you can't afford a one-time fee of $300 you should not have the pet anyway. Can you even pay for yearly vaccinations? The patients wanting letters are also usually nutcases who I wouldn't trust to babysit a hermit crab. Yes, these people almost always have a diagnosis of anxiety, depression, BPD, are addicts etc. but how can a functioning adult unironically say they rely on an animal for emotional support? "Hey I bought this 'service animal' vest on Amazon for $20 and my doc says I have the feefee problems so you must allow me to drag my neurotic BYB pupper into Walmart and destroy my apartment." It's narcissism and societal coddling of the weak. This is why more and more property owners won't rent to people with pets...they don't want to catch a lawsuit (even a BS one) and they don't want to deal with bums who will let their shitbull eat drywall and leave without paying damages.

Grow the fuck up. Pay your damn bills. Contribute to society. Stop leeching off of the government and people's goodwill...the latter is drying up at alarming rates. I'm also damn tired of """disabled people""" getting checks every month because they...have pain and feefees?
 
I'm sorry if this isn't the best thread to post this but I know it's been discussed before and I just need to to be MATIRL.

I'm so damn tired of all this "emotional support animal" bullshit.

The UK doesn’t do ESA so they just sneak them as fake and poorly trained service / assistance dogs. People find a way to get what they want no matter what.

Assistance Chihuahua is the best I’ve seen for awhile. ‘Darwin Dogs’ the organisation that trained it have recently joined ‘Assistance Dogs UK’ an umbrella organisation that brings together the big charities such as ‘Guide Dogs’, ‘Hearing Dogs’ and ‘Support Dogs’ .

ADUK used to be very selective and respected but have added some questionable organisations in the last couple of years.

Darwins Dogs give an account of the woman who takes her support Chihuahua to the zoo, stressing every animal they encounter.

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http://www.darwins.org.uk/banditspage

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https://web.archive.org/web/20240106014214/http://www.darwins.org.uk/banditspage
 
As with all these girls, she seems completely unaware of the danger she’s in and just complains that the doctor didn’t follow her special protocol for IV placement and now her CRPS is flaring. She’ll be in the hospital another three weeks or so while they clear the infection and place a new central line.

Damn… some of these bitches like to FAFO with central lines, don’t they? That shit goes pretty much all the way into your heart and if it gets infected or a clot, it’s game over.
 
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