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This Moon lawyer guy is dumber than Rekieta after downing a bottle of whiskey. In fact, I think that he makes Rekieta look good because for all of Rekietas flaws he is actually a lawyer.
A lawyer on the /r/thecompletionist2 broke it down. here:
Moon also comes up with arguments that Jirard and his supporters never said.
He claims that Jirard offered Jobst money because either he thought he was being extorted or wanted to bribe Karl but that never happened.

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Here is what Jirard actually said:

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Moon also spends an inordinate amount of time saying that maybe Jirard wanted to turn the Open Hand Foundation into an endowment type charity where the money is invested and then a portion of the interest is donated for charities. Except Jirard, Charles or Jacque have never brought any of that up and even in his response video Jirard was talking about restricted donations.
It's just irrelevant and fabricated bullshit to act as padding in lieu of having an actual argument.
After he got into slap fight with Karl on Reddit he updated his Patreon immediately crying harassment. https://archive.is/wip/EV2iB
Then he made a YouTube community post where he shows that he donated $2300 + $500 of his own money to the Alzheimer's Association and attempts to deescalate the situation while admitting that he didn't listen to the Discord Call. Now that he's listened to the discord call he thinks that the claim of charity fraud is a lot more plausible but he thinks that his legal analysis in his video still holds up.
He even gets into it with a janny from /r/thecompletionist2:

Moon keeps his identity a secret. On his Reddit account which he's had for 13 years the posts only go back 2 years and he has a lot of upcummies on that account so he's deleted all his old posts.
I was curious about his identity because his video was so incorrect and he was so smug about being a lawyer that it makes me think he's not a lawyer. He reminds me of the lolcow Spectre who was a stolen valor discord addict pretending to be a lawyer who "helped" a guy who got sued with a frivolous lawsuit by failing to address an obvious motion to dismiss.
On his reddit account /u/Moonsight he claims that he's from Queens, NY. https://archive.is/wip/WtCiq and that he's of Taiwanese descent. https://archive.is/wip/obVbj
On another Reddit post he says that his family used to own Hot and Spicy in Flushing until it closed.

Looking up Spicy and Tasty on the New York business lookup doesn't give anyones name and neither does Opengov.

A lawyer on the /r/thecompletionist2 broke it down. here:
Thank you, I appreciate that! I personally am wary about weighing with any professional authority as: (1) this isn’t my practice area, and (2) the facts aren’t nearly complete enough to foresee where this will go with any certainty. However, as a freebie, I will point out an instance where Moon Channel is unambiguously and blatantly wrong as a basic matter of law without considering the underlying facts or exhaustive legal analysis.
At 36:54 in the video, Moon Channel states the following: “Just as the intentions of actions can change how culpable one is of a crime, the intentions of legislature can change the plain functions of the law. And it appears to me that the intention of 532d’s wording is to target people like charity scammer phone solicitors who aren’t in the same box as Jirard.”
This is untrue on at least two fronts and blatantly so. I want to stress that this statement is wrong on the basic fundamentals of statutory interpretation that would be wrong regardless of jurisdiction. Nonetheless, I will cite to California law just to demonstrate that this is also wrong as applied specifically to California.
First, the legislator’s implicit or unexpressed intent generally cannot defeat the plain meaning of the statute. See California Teachers Assoc. v. Governing Bd. Of Rialto Unified Sch. Dist., 927 P.2d 1175, 1177 (Cal. 1997). If there’s no ambiguity, courts will presume that lawmakers meant what they said in the statute and the plain meaning of the statute governs. People v. Gutierrez, 324 P.3d 245, 255 (Cal. 2014). Courts do this because reading the statute as written typically is the best way to determine the intent of the legislator, and other less reliable methods should only be used when the plain meaning of the statute’s language can’t be clearly understood (i.e. ambiguous).
Here, Moon Channel provides no evidence to suggest the statute would be ambiguous as written, or given any reason why the ordinary meaning of the statute (which implicates Jirard’s conduct under his own analysis), would not be applicable. Moon Channel simply states it should not do what it says because of some unexpressed legislative intent which he does not meaningfully substantiate. That’s not how statutory interpretation works.
Second, there basically exists no evidence to suggest that 532d applies or was intended to apply solely to phone soliciting or situations analogous to phone solicitation (I’m being generous here). Moon Channel states this without any basis and does not elaborate any further. I have no idea why Moon Channel claims this. If the statute were intended solely to criminalize charity fraud via telephone or otherwise, the legislature would have included limiting language making the statute only applicable to that circumstance. Further, nothing about the organization of the chapter or surrounding sections would lead anyone to infer that 532d applies to only to phone solicitation or analogous situations.
While not precedent and not subject to the analysis in the foregoing opinion, the California Attorney General’s Office seemed to believe that it “generally prohibits the making of false statements concerning charitable solicitations.” See 66 Cal. Op. Att’y Gen. 40 n. 2 (1983). I believe this interpretation makes complete sense given the composition of the statute. The statute covers all unlawful solicitation and receipt of money whether oral or in writing. Why Moon Channel believes otherwise I do not know.
Even if I am extremely generous to Moon Channel and assume that he has in his pocket the smoking gun that demonstrates the California legislature intended for the statute to only apply to phone solicitation—which I’m sure he doesn’t but I’m open to being corrected—he did not argue it properly. So no points, even if he could ultimately be proven right on his point.
Hopefully that gives you a good sense of why I had the reaction I did!
Moon also comes up with arguments that Jirard and his supporters never said.
He claims that Jirard offered Jobst money because either he thought he was being extorted or wanted to bribe Karl but that never happened.

Timestamp.
Here is what Jirard actually said:

Timestamp.
Moon also spends an inordinate amount of time saying that maybe Jirard wanted to turn the Open Hand Foundation into an endowment type charity where the money is invested and then a portion of the interest is donated for charities. Except Jirard, Charles or Jacque have never brought any of that up and even in his response video Jirard was talking about restricted donations.
It's just irrelevant and fabricated bullshit to act as padding in lieu of having an actual argument.
After he got into slap fight with Karl on Reddit he updated his Patreon immediately crying harassment. https://archive.is/wip/EV2iB
Then he made a YouTube community post where he shows that he donated $2300 + $500 of his own money to the Alzheimer's Association and attempts to deescalate the situation while admitting that he didn't listen to the Discord Call. Now that he's listened to the discord call he thinks that the claim of charity fraud is a lot more plausible but he thinks that his legal analysis in his video still holds up.
He even gets into it with a janny from /r/thecompletionist2:

Moon keeps his identity a secret. On his Reddit account which he's had for 13 years the posts only go back 2 years and he has a lot of upcummies on that account so he's deleted all his old posts.
I was curious about his identity because his video was so incorrect and he was so smug about being a lawyer that it makes me think he's not a lawyer. He reminds me of the lolcow Spectre who was a stolen valor discord addict pretending to be a lawyer who "helped" a guy who got sued with a frivolous lawsuit by failing to address an obvious motion to dismiss.
On his reddit account /u/Moonsight he claims that he's from Queens, NY. https://archive.is/wip/WtCiq and that he's of Taiwanese descent. https://archive.is/wip/obVbj
On another Reddit post he says that his family used to own Hot and Spicy in Flushing until it closed.

Looking up Spicy and Tasty on the New York business lookup doesn't give anyones name and neither does Opengov.

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