What are the biggest normalfag games of all time?

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Just having a lot of sales or positive reception does not count. A game could have a ton of sales among basement dwellers without having mass appeal.

My nominees:


EVERY MAINSTREAM SPORTS GAME, BUT MAINLY MADDEN NFL
This is obviously the king, so let's get it out of the way. It doesn't matter who it is, if someone is NOT a nerd, they will have a copy of Madden, FIFA, NBA 2K, or some combination of the three in their house. This is what normalfaggots do when they get together. They watch sportsball or they play sportsball on the console, if they're fit enough they even play sportsball outside IRL. I don't even consider this part of gaming (though I started playing sports game a while back) because in my experience it seems like nerd gamers won't even touch the stuff (because sports is icky), so there's a huge segment of the population that does NOTHING but Madden/Madden with other shaped balls, and then a huge segment that does literally everything else.

CALL OF DUTY
Before the Modern Warfare trilogy this was basically the gold standard of linear action games with inherent mass appeal (WW2). With Modern Warfare it basically pioneered a specific style of multiplayer game (with the progression system and all that) that came to infest everything. Every Little Billy owned a copy of every new COD game, except for me, because I was a born contrarian jackass and I got Battlefield instead.

HALO
Halo was what he had to fill COD's space in the vidya world before COD came along. As I understand it was the first one to have decent matchmaking so it was easy for people with little technical mindset, ie normalfags, to play online, setting the stage for COD.

GRAND THEFT AUTO
If Little Billy had negligent parents, a loving older brother, or could squirrel it away from his bitchy Bible thumper/helicopter Mom, then he played GTA. Universal appeal. Everyone can talk about it.

FORTNITE
I pretty much ignored this for the whole duration of its life. This is, I think, the first time I saw something (aided by the Internet) blow up out of nowhere into a massive, very obnoxious sensation in what in hindsight feels (along with the Harlem shake) like an outbreak of mass psychosis. I hope it's died by now, I haven't checked.

MINECRAFT
This one is nerdy, but it's also become such a feature of the modern man's childhood that it would be impossible to leave it out. In this day and age there is no excuse for someone having ever not touched Minecraft.
 
I'd like to add World of Warcraft and League of Legends as both have carved massive audiences to the point members of the respective audiences fit the middle of the bell curve.
League is odd, it seems like the gayest nerd shit imaginable to me, but one of the two living embodiments of normalfag that I know plays/played it.



BTW, I consider Valve inherently anti-normalfag. Gamers sucked them off really hard back in the day,

Hearts of Iron is definitely not a normalfag game in general, but within strategy it is because it seems to draw in all kinds of midwits that are at odds with the Paradox fanbase in general, much less the Paradox old guard (which I'm sort of, I found Victoria II almost right before CK2, EU4, and HOI4 were developed). It is also a malignant tumor of bad design that's eating all their franchises.

Some other nominations I forgot:

FALLOUT AND SKYRIM
Not The Elder Scrolls. Skyrim specifically. It is impossible to understate how much mass appeal Fallout has. I don't really remember it being that way back in the day when I played it, but I think its reputation just built on itself. Strangely, I know the young adults of today - normal-looking young Chad types - still play New Vegas.

THE SIMS/SIM CITY/DERIVATIVES LIKE CITIES SKYLINES
Extremely popular and famous with appeal to all demographics.
 
Autistic story here. I mentioned sports games being unpopular with a certain type of spiteful nerd. My Pa, an old Boomer, was once grousing about the nerds all playing Madden instead of watching the mandingos on TV (in the Boomer mindset TV is a virtuous activity when compared to gaming), and I tried to explain to him that no, the same nerds that don't give a fuck about the Patriots and 49ers and 69ers and all that are not delighting themselves simming it, because they find spectator sports fucking boring.

But it got me thinking, maybe I should try them. I'd been getting into Total War at the time, and I knew that football specifically has a lot of parallels to formation warfare. Literal formations, "offensives" and "defensives," is abstractable to geometry. I knew that with a game I could learn by doing and be more invested, and since these things have rosters of real people with statistics inspired (let's say) by their real performance, so a person could figure out well enough to potentially develop a real appreciation, rewarding in and of itself and useful for future work since that's the one thing that people (besides turbospergs) find socially acceptable to expect people to be into and talk about.

As it happens, I boot up Madden every now and then for fun, but I still find watching football boring, at least last that I tried.
 
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Seems obvious to me.
 
Those were all the games I was thinking of. Except Fortnite and Minecraft. I was never into Minecraft. I even played some of them. I have played all the GTA games. I owned every single one on the PS2. I have GTA 4 and 5 installed now. I still play them. Call of Duty definitely. I had all the PS2 WW2 CoD games back then. I have Black Ops 1 and Modern warfare 1 installed now and was recently playing Modern warfare. I tried the Remaster a few months back, but the PC port of the Remaster is total shit. It looks good but has a shit ton of problems. I had Halo CE and Halo 2 back then. But I never got into it. I picked the Master Chief collection up during a Steam sale a while back for $20. I just haven't played it much. What I wanted to do was play Halo 1 and 2 or at least try.

I was reading something about GTA a while back and it seems one of the people involved with the games said that Rockstar wanted to make a game that anyone could play. They could play it without feeling like a nerd. People that wanted to play a video game but feel cool while doing it. That kind of sums up GTA.

Back in the late 2000's when Call of Duty Modern Warfare released the series became known as the dude bro games. Games that were popular with frat boys and shit like that. So, I can see that series being on a list.

There was definitely a push to make video games more mainstream around the time Modern warfare 1 and 2 released. Making them mainstream means more normies got involved. Back then they were known as filthy casuals. The Wii was known as the console for casuals. Which is funny because many of the games on the Wii weren't really casual friendly. They required some effort and time investment which isn't what casual gamers like. They are more like pick up and play people.
Autistic story here. I mentioned sports games being unpopular with a certain type of spiteful nerd. My Pa, an old Boomer, was once grousing about the nerds all playing Madden instead of watching the mandingos on TV (in the Boomer mindset TV is a virtuous activity when compared to gaming), and I tried to explain to him that no, the same nerds that don't give a fuck about the Patriots and 49ers and 69ers and all that are not delighting themselves simming it, because they find spectator sports fucking boring.

But it got me thinking, maybe I should try them. I'd been getting into Total War at the time, and I knew that football specifically has a lot of parallels to formation warfare. Literal formations, "offensives" and "defensives," is abstractable to geometry. I knew that with a game I could learn by doing and be more invested, and since these things have rosters of real people with statistics inspired (let's say) by their real performance, so a person could figure out well enough to potentially develop a real appreciation, rewarding in and of itself and useful for future work since that's the one thing that people (besides turbospergs) find socially acceptable to expect people to be into and talk about.

As it happens, I boot up Madden every now and then for fun, but I still find watching football boring, at least last that I tried.
The same Boomers that tell you video games are waste of time have no problem sitting in front of a TV and staring blankly at it for hours a day. You still see this with people telling you video games are waste of time. How many hours a day do they spend staring at their TV? I bet many. I can't remember the exact figures buy I once saw numbers for the average amount of hours spent watching TV by Americans and it was quite a bit. Kind of alarming really. Playing video games is a waste of time but sitting around watching niggers play Football for hours a day is ok. That gets an ok Boomer from me.

Here is the thing Boomers and TV watchers will never get. Watching TV is a passive experience. You aren't involved in any way. Video games are interactive experience. When people play them, they have to make decisions and think. When you watch TV, you don't do any of that. I like watching movies but I couldn't sit around and watch movies for hours a day.

Yes, watching other people play sports is boring as hell. Watching people play video games is also boring. Very few video games are fun to watch.
 
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