A large part of it is this narrative of black vs white, us vs them that they inadvertently sign up to: "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists!" as some genius once put it. It's how GrammyGay can be both BernieBros and alt-right at the same time and the reason why if you're not on board the victim choo choo drinking the kool-aid and singing from the hymn book then you're TrumpHitlerMisogynHater.
To quote myself from another thread re; Jim's switch
To quote Eazy-E: "It's a trip how a nigga can switch so quick, from punting cunts to attacking the patriarchy"
It's pretty obvious that Chelsea will end up in softcore (or even hardcore) porn.
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to all Encyclopedia Dramatica editors, Chelsea really hated that Milo and others were linking her ED article. Randi Harper said she's had her article for almost a decade and that "no one who matters ever believes this shit." Peter Coffin on the other hand said his "fake girlfriend incident" led to influential YouTubers mocking him and dropping his YouTube revenue from $4,000-6,000 a month down to $100.
(hug) can't imagine what thats like
gg has become such a clusterfuck of stupid shit. So sorry this is happening.
It's a fair point. But again, but why work when you got orbiters waiting hand and foot on Patreon? I know the listed amount isn't completely accurate, but I also know that not all of it is part of that circular donation scheme.
We're going to continue going through the CON Skype logs leak, this time looking through Main Chats 5-8. Sadly, we've seen a lot of the good content from these already, namely the meltdown that Chelsea had on New Year's 2015 when 8chan's diggers put their spades to work and found lots of content on Chelsea, pedophile Nicholas Nyberg, and whoever else they may have been looking in to. Fear not, there was still lots of milk.
Chelsea did a Google search to ask 'how to talk to Mara Wilson' on a Facebook chat because Chelsea wanted to ask about pitching her Five Guys: The Book.
[28/12/2014, 12:38:41 PM] drinternetphd: apparently I googled "how do I talk to mara wilson"
[28/12/2014, 12:38:48 PM] drinternetphd: earlier today when I had to talk to mara wilson
[28/12/2014, 12:39:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Approach from the side and avoid showing teeth?
[28/12/2014, 12:39:10 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
[28/12/2014, 12:40:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: wait, had to?
[28/12/2014, 12:41:46 PM] David Gallant: Mara Wilson seems pretty cool.
[28/12/2014, 12:41:59 PM] drinternetphd: yeah my friend who's friends with her put me in a fb group chat so I could ask her stuff about pitching nonfiction
Some of the anti-Gamergate rat king seemed butthurt that Gamergate was accusing them of being trust fund babies. Despite obsessively stalking and monitoring Gamergate and chan boards, Chelsea claimed to not know what cultural Marxism is supposed to be.
[28/12/2014, 3:15:52 PM] Dina : #whitetrustfundbaby
[28/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: ugh
[28/12/2014, 3:16:12 PM] Quinnae: Were you talking to me, Dina? Because apparently that's what I am.
[28/12/2014, 3:16:23 PM] Remy: Like, as far as who I am as a person I am SOOO glad I did not grow up a trust fund baby
[28/12/2014, 3:16:30 PM] Dina : Kath, you and me both
[28/12/2014, 3:16:43 PM] Remy: But then there are those days I wish I grew up with all that sweet nutrition and health care and financial support structure and I'm like
[28/12/2014, 3:16:48 PM] Remy: Fuck being a good person I wish I was born rich
[28/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Gators think we're all rich trust fund babies because it enables them to 'punch up' so to speak
[28/12/2014, 3:16:57 PM] Dina : also when they realized I was arab they changed the narrative to LITERALLY "her oil tycoon daddy bought her her job"
[28/12/2014, 3:17:12 PM] Remy: wow
[28/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Remy: So they went super racist as soon as they saw an opening
[28/12/2014, 3:17:41 PM] drinternetphd: all of our fathers are rich somehow
[28/12/2014, 3:17:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't have the heart to keep looking up the shit they were digging up on me
[28/12/2014, 3:20:39 PM] drinternetphd: and I am apparently a rooservelt heiress
[28/12/2014, 3:21:23 PM] drinternetphd: in the mother of all coincidences, a lady who works on that common core thing has the last name van valkenburg quinn
[28/12/2014, 3:21:25 PM] Dina : the racism is strong with GG
[28/12/2014, 3:21:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Wow Zoe.
[28/12/2014, 3:21:47 PM] drinternetphd: yeah dude.
[28/12/2014, 3:21:50 PM] drinternetphd: not related to me at all
[28/12/2014, 3:21:51 PM] Peter Coffin: great scott
[28/12/2014, 3:21:55 PM] Ian Cheong: That is... serendipitous.
[28/12/2014, 3:22:02 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so sorry for her
[28/12/2014, 3:22:08 PM] Remy: right?
[28/12/2014, 3:22:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the thing I love about "common core" conspiracy theories is how clearly their adherents have no idea whatsoever what they're talking about
[28/12/2014, 3:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: also they're using it as an excuse to dig into my family again
[28/12/2014, 3:22:21 PM] drinternetphd: so that sucks a bit
[28/12/2014, 3:22:22 PM] Remy: Don't they already have some weird obsession with tying "cultural marxism" to Common Core?
[28/12/2014, 3:22:26 PM] drinternetphd: yes
[28/12/2014, 3:22:34 PM] Remy: Like... I never saw that one coming
[28/12/2014, 3:22:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: like, even by the standards conspiracy theorists normally have no clue, those ones are something special
[28/12/2014, 3:22:41 PM] drinternetphd: I sitll don't know what cultural marxism is
Chelsea had only been 'working' on Five Guys: The Book for a few days and was already complaining that the process "sucks." Chelsea was apparently told she only needed to write 21,000 words and she was "hoping to have an edited and polished pitch" by the end of January 2015. Chelsea believed the book could "change her life".
[28/12/2014, 11:27:48 PM] drinternetphd: writing a book sucks
[28/12/2014, 11:28:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): morning, Zoe
[28/12/2014, 11:28:11 PM] drinternetphd: or rather the things you have to do to facilitate writing a book suck
[28/12/2014, 11:28:14 PM] drinternetphd: morning
[28/12/2014, 11:28:28 PM] drinternetphd: though working on a pitch while the sun comes up over seattle isn't so bad
[28/12/2014, 11:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: I am hoping to have an edited and polished pitch of this book by the end of jan
[28/12/2014, 11:43:08 PM] drinternetphd: only 21k words ._.
[28/12/2014, 11:43:15 PM] drinternetphd: that could change my life ._.
[28/12/2014, 11:45:38 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): You should wrote it from GG's perspective. jk
[28/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooo welcome to misinterpreted book of the year
[28/12/2014, 11:45:55 PM] drinternetphd: idk if I can use 21k words to describe the inside of an anus
[28/12/2014, 11:46:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[28/12/2014, 11:46:15 PM] Rob: Make it a fiction story about the life of a polyp
[28/12/2014, 11:46:18 PM] drinternetphd: "it's kinda dark in here and boy am i sure mad about video game people"
[28/12/2014, 11:46:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wait, what's that?... oh, god, i'm in Milo's ass, aren't I?
[28/12/2014, 11:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: “despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage”
[28/12/2014, 11:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: “except an ass"
[28/12/2014, 11:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: [soul collective voice] yeah
[28/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: my book is only kind of about gamergate
[28/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): archive.today
[28/12/2014, 11:52:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oops, I meant to type that in my search. lol
[28/12/2014, 11:52:45 PM] Rob:
[28/12/2014, 11:52:49 PM] Peter Coffin: so it’s entirely about gamer gate when a gger reads it
[28/12/2014, 11:53:04 PM] Peter Coffin: is what you’re saying
[28/12/2014, 11:53:39 PM] drinternetphd: they always find a way to make anything I do about the
[28/12/2014, 11:53:40 PM] drinternetphd: *them
There was someone named Kiwikku who was involved in Gamergate back in 2014. The rat king absolutely hated him and had been bitching about him for days. Exactly what his history is I don't know, but he was banned from GamerGhazi and KotakuInAction (the latter was undone eventually) and planned to quit Gamergate because he was "forced" to be neutral, but not before giving them advice. He encouraged Gamergate to keep discrediting Chelsea, Anita Scamkeesian, and Brianna Wu - which made Chelsea pissed off.
[28/12/2014, 11:36:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So, Kiwikku wrote a goodbye to GamerGate: http://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstGame...ced_to_be_neutral_i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must/
[28/12/2014, 11:40:07 PM] drinternetphd: "Continue to call out the LW's, but do it by writing blog posts and mediums refuting them, not by posting another useless thread on KiA or sending messages to them on Twitter."
[28/12/2014, 11:40:08 PM] drinternetphd: fuck you
[28/12/2014, 11:40:15 PM] drinternetphd: get a hobby you piece of shit
[29/12/2014, 1:02:24 AM] Randi Harper: no one of any consequence will believe this shit
[29/12/2014, 1:02:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, did Faruk finish his subreddit analysis of KiA?
[29/12/2014, 1:02:31 AM] Randi Harper: why do you think I've never been upset or really cared about meth babies?
[29/12/2014, 1:02:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So crazy that Milo started asking you stuff he read off ED
[29/12/2014, 1:03:02 AM] drinternetphd: no it's not
[29/12/2014, 1:03:12 AM] drinternetphd: he links to the ED articles on me in his shit about me on brietbart
[29/12/2014, 1:03:16 AM] Randi Harper: milo is a tool, and everyone knows it.
[29/12/2014, 1:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: he regularly uses them as a source
[29/12/2014, 1:03:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Uh
[29/12/2014, 1:03:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow
[29/12/2014, 1:03:24 AM] Peter Coffin: randi, a shitload of people believed my fake girlfriend incident. influential people from the youtube community and basically made sure I had no credibility there
[29/12/2014, 1:03:33 AM] Peter Coffin: you’d be surprised what people will believe
[29/12/2014, 1:03:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think we also caught TechRaptor quoting ED, too, when writing about Randi
[29/12/2014, 1:03:44 AM] drinternetphd: everyone loves a story.
[29/12/2014, 1:03:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So many ethics
[29/12/2014, 1:03:52 AM] Ian Cheong: Zoe's right.
[29/12/2014, 1:04:20 AM] Randi Harper: so, I've had an ED article about me for like... what.. a decade?
[29/12/2014, 1:04:23 AM] Randi Harper: since the site was up
[29/12/2014, 1:04:25 AM] Ian Cheong: It's just depressing, you know?
[29/12/2014, 1:04:27 AM] Randi Harper: I was one of the first articles.
[29/12/2014, 1:04:37 AM] Randi Harper: I've been dealing with people trying to trash my rep for a long time.
[29/12/2014, 1:04:49 AM] Peter Coffin: wow I feel sorry for you, I didn’t realize that was there that long
[29/12/2014, 1:04:49 AM] Randi Harper: I can tell you definitively that no one that matters ever believes this shit.
[29/12/2014, 1:05:08 AM] Randi Harper: people that "love a story" are shitty people that don't matter.
[29/12/2014, 1:05:33 AM] Peter Coffin: not being argumentative, but the people in my case affected my income greatly
[29/12/2014, 1:05:52 AM] Randi Harper: see, that's a problem.
[29/12/2014, 1:05:53 AM] Peter Coffin: at one point I made $4000-6000 a month on youtube, I make $100 now
[29/12/2014, 1:05:55 AM] Randi Harper: my income doesn't depend on asshats.
[29/12/2014, 1:06:06 AM] Peter Coffin: very good point
[29/12/2014, 1:06:10 AM] Peter Coffin: I didn’t believe mine did
[29/12/2014, 1:06:41 AM] Peter Coffin: but the ray william john sons and the phil defrancos apparently had the power to break my channel
[29/12/2014, 1:07:12 AM] Peter Coffin: rwj was someone I constantly criticized, so I think he had a motive
[29/12/2014, 1:07:21 AM] Randi Harper: who are those people?
[29/12/2014, 1:07:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Eww, RayWJ
[29/12/2014, 1:07:28 AM] Ian Cheong: popular youtubers.
[29/12/2014, 1:07:33 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah just pretend they are no one
[29/12/2014, 1:07:36 AM] Peter Coffin: you’ll feel better
[29/12/2014, 1:07:38 AM] Peter Coffin: I promise
One of Chelsea's known incidents from before Gamergate was when she wanted to do nude modeling for Deviant Nation, a Suicide Girls knock-off site. Chelsea was lying to the photographer during pretty much all of their contact, Chelsea inconvenienced the photographer and cost her money with these lies, and once the shoots were completed Chelsea lied again and claimed her roommate (who Chelsea dubbed a "mentally unbalanced cunt") said the photos couldn't be published. (Chelsea also for whatever reason told the photographer that she had killed someone who was supposedly trying to rape her, a story that the ED page says Eron Gjoni was also told by Chelsea) The photographer eventually got in touch with the roommate in spite of Chelsea's attempts to stop her, found out the truth, and in retaliation Chelsea began lying yet again and tried to destroy the photographer's reputation in the industry.
After Gamergate started the photographer recognized that Chelsea/Locke Valentine was now calling herself Zoe Quinn and wrote about her awful experience. In the logs, Chelsea briefly bitched about the photographer telling her story and dubbed her a "psycho."
[29/12/2014, 1:07:58 AM] drinternetphd: that's always an interesting bit in these things
[29/12/2014, 1:08:08 AM] drinternetphd: everyone you've ever pissed off, even for the right reasons, appears to shit on you
[29/12/2014, 1:08:37 AM] drinternetphd: like that psycho photographer
[29/12/2014, 1:08:49 AM] Peter Coffin: well here is the thing, randi is employed privately, my youtube channel was basically hinged on the idea public opinion of me was good
[29/12/2014, 1:08:52 AM] drinternetphd: and everyone will believe them verbatim without questioning motives
Chelsea said her feet are "monsterfoot" size. She was also worried about getting more of Fishbowl Blue and Cupcake Pink hair dyes.
[29/12/2014, 1:49:15 AM] drinternetphd: dina: http://i.imgur.com/lBANXf7.jpg
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[29/12/2014, 1:49:15 AM] Dina : oh and 2 pairs of leather sneakers with funky laces for my little brother cause he doesn'T know how to dress smdh
[29/12/2014, 1:49:27 AM] Dina : Holy hell <3
[29/12/2014, 1:49:51 AM] Dina : the Snake skin is black on mine but these are like disco balls for your feet
[29/12/2014, 1:50:16 AM] drinternetphd: yeah! they're doc martens
[29/12/2014, 1:50:29 AM] drinternetphd: they were on sale for like 20 bucks cause I guess no one wants to be a gaudy motherfucker like I do
[29/12/2014, 1:50:36 AM] Dina : aaaah docs are the best <3
[29/12/2014, 1:50:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
[29/12/2014, 1:50:39 AM] Dina : WHAT
[29/12/2014, 1:50:44 AM] Dina : 20 bucks for docs?!!
[29/12/2014, 1:50:50 AM] Peter Coffin: dayum
[29/12/2014, 1:50:54 AM] drinternetphd: yeah it was ridic
[29/12/2014, 1:50:59 AM] Dina : that's a steal!!
[29/12/2014, 1:51:00 AM] drinternetphd: they only had them left in my monsterfoot size too
[29/12/2014, 1:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: also dina
[29/12/2014, 1:54:11 AM] drinternetphd: I have fishbowl and cupcake pink for you at my apartment
[29/12/2014, 1:54:15 AM] drinternetphd: fyi
[29/12/2014, 1:54:18 AM] Dina : oh my God
[29/12/2014, 1:54:29 AM] Dina : I haven't seen fishbowl in years ;-; <3
[29/12/2014, 1:54:47 AM] Dina : 2015 is the year of Fishbowl with cupcake streak, ilu Zoe
[29/12/2014, 1:54:50 AM] drinternetphd: yeah they kinda vanished on the blue front but I guess their factory had some issue that is now resolved?
[29/12/2014, 1:54:57 AM] drinternetphd: so it's easier to get again, finally
[29/12/2014, 1:55:17 AM] drinternetphd: so when I'm back in town again I'll mail it out to ya
[29/12/2014, 1:55:21 AM] Dina : yeah idk what the hell happened but for a really long time fishbowl and sometimes atomic pink were IMPOSSIBLE
[29/12/2014, 1:55:31 AM] drinternetphd: yeah!
[29/12/2014, 1:55:36 AM] Dina : yay! Much obliged!!
[29/12/2014, 1:55:45 AM] Dina : Lemme know if you want Japan things
[29/12/2014, 1:55:47 AM] drinternetphd: blue mayhem and some of their blue based purples vanished for a long time too
[29/12/2014, 1:56:04 AM] drinternetphd: became impossible to even get them irl
[29/12/2014, 1:56:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (are SJW's talking about hair dye?)
[29/12/2014, 1:56:10 AM] Dina : whaat
[29/12/2014, 1:56:14 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[29/12/2014, 1:56:15 AM] Dina : Izzy lol
[29/12/2014, 1:56:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx):
[29/12/2014, 1:56:23 AM] drinternetphd: it sucked I was super worried they were permaclosing
[29/12/2014, 1:58:59 AM] drinternetphd: I'm deep purple right now but I'm trying to grow my hair out again so I can go back to doing this with it http://i.imgur.com/h4OzAlx.jpg
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[29/12/2014, 1:59:27 AM] Dina : sorry for being gross but goddamn you are hot
[29/12/2014, 1:59:32 AM] drinternetphd: what no aaa
[29/12/2014, 1:59:37 AM] drinternetphd: I am like a 5 at best
[29/12/2014, 1:59:42 AM] Dina : lmao no
[29/12/2014, 1:59:48 AM] drinternetphd: and only from certain angles
[29/12/2014, 2:00:07 AM] Dina : pretty sure you're hot from every angle
[29/12/2014, 2:00:20 AM] Dina : will need to cross reference evidence with Alex
[29/12/2014, 2:00:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL
[29/12/2014, 2:00:34 AM] Dina : (or maybe just stop being gross about it I'm sorry)
[29/12/2014, 2:00:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If we're gonna complement looks, Dina, can I marry your eyes?
[29/12/2014, 2:01:24 AM] Dina : haha you can ask them directly but be warned the left one is kinky as fuck
[29/12/2014, 2:01:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[29/12/2014, 2:05:27 AM] drinternetphd: dina you're not being creepy don't worry
[29/12/2014, 2:05:46 AM] drinternetphd: honestly it's a nice change of pace from 5 months of every inch of my body being under 4chan scrutiny
[29/12/2014, 2:05:58 AM] drinternetphd: not exactly the best thing for confidence
[29/12/2014, 2:06:27 AM] Dina : I'm really sorry about that and reminder that you are gorgeous and I keep hearing that from multiple men and women and agreeing
[29/12/2014, 2:06:40 AM] drinternetphd: what gosh
[29/12/2014, 2:06:50 AM] Dina : and that's before we move onto all the other things that are so great about you so yeah
[29/12/2014, 2:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: pfwaaaa
[29/12/2014, 2:07:00 AM] Dina : the Zoe Crush Club
[29/12/2014, 2:07:01 AM] drinternetphd: dinaaaaa
[29/12/2014, 2:07:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna get all embarassed
[29/12/2014, 2:07:05 AM] Dina : I'm the president
[29/12/2014, 2:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: thank god alex is in the other room he always makes so much fun of me when I am embarassed
Someone hacked into Chelsea's voicemail and changed the password and made the greeting something involving Five Guys Burgers and Fries.
[29/12/2014, 2:09:54 AM] drinternetphd: hnnnng
[29/12/2014, 2:10:01 AM] drinternetphd: my dad left me a sweet voicemail
[29/12/2014, 2:10:06 AM] Dina : aww
[29/12/2014, 2:10:10 AM] drinternetphd: and I just remembered I've been forgetting to fix my voicemail
[29/12/2014, 2:10:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, HateBoner is in reference to why some guys harass women. They find them attractive, but are upset they can't "get" them.
[29/12/2014, 2:10:24 AM] drinternetphd: someone hacked it and changed the password and the greeting to some "five guys" horseshit
[29/12/2014, 2:10:31 AM] drinternetphd: I keep forgetting to reset it
[29/12/2014, 2:10:33 AM] Dina : UGH
[29/12/2014, 2:10:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
[29/12/2014, 2:10:50 AM] Dina : this shit makes me so angry
[29/12/2014, 2:10:57 AM] drinternetphd: yeah. i mean it's nothing they haven't been screaming at him on his own phone line for months
[29/12/2014, 2:10:59 AM] drinternetphd: but still
The rat king was celebrating after Chris Kluwe got an email from Patreon saying they were going to kick off Hotwheels. They immediately set their sights on Cernovich and said they were planning on making him "inconvenient to other lawyers" so he would be "fucked." Alex Lifshit was jacking off over the thoughts of what they would be doing to Cernovich.
[29/12/2014, 2:13:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: GREAT NEWS, EVERYBODY!
[29/12/2014, 2:13:58 AM] Dina : JESUS
[29/12/2014, 2:14:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: Patreon Team (Patreon)
Dec 27 11:37 PM
Hey there Chris!
Yes, thank you. We’re phasing in enforcement of the new Community Guidelines from now until the end of the month, when it officially goes into effect. No worries, we’re on it. This page is definitely in violation of our Community Guidelines and will face appropriate action. We appreciate you being proactive and looking out for the Patreon community.
Best,
Patreon
[29/12/2014, 2:14:04 AM] Dina : I mean Chris
[29/12/2014, 2:14:10 AM] Rob: w00t!
[29/12/2014, 2:14:17 AM] Alex Lifschitz: *tiny woo hoo*
[29/12/2014, 2:14:19 AM] Dina : aw yis
[29/12/2014, 2:14:21 AM] Dina : also
[29/12/2014, 2:14:28 AM] Dina : *hugs Zoe non pervertly*
[29/12/2014, 2:14:42 AM] Randi Harper: what page?
[29/12/2014, 2:14:45 AM] Dina : and sending good vibes to Zoepapa
[29/12/2014, 2:14:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: hotwheels
[29/12/2014, 2:14:50 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Zoe is not the ideal gamer girlfriend. She has never played a 3D Sonic. She doesn't know my pain.
[29/12/2014, 2:14:52 AM] Dina : catwheels?
[29/12/2014, 2:15:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: naziwheels
[29/12/2014, 2:15:14 AM] Dina : She has never played a 3D Sonic = the ideal gamer gf
[29/12/2014, 2:15:20 AM] Dina : Alex you're clearly insane
[29/12/2014, 2:15:29 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Ohhhhhh man, next month is going to start off reeeeeal poor for GG.
[29/12/2014, 2:16:27 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We know of at least two articles coming out in the first week that's going to give them a goddamn hissyfit, and since Zoe is angling to keep pounding away on the book pitch, I might take the helm on the Cernovich article. (Partially so we don't have to keep Chris waiting, also I spew rhetoric like hot fire.)
[29/12/2014, 2:16:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh no worries there
[29/12/2014, 2:16:52 AM] Dina : when is the able gamers stream?
[29/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: i keep watching him dig himself deeper and deeper holes
[29/12/2014, 2:17:00 AM] Dina : not that it's GG related
[29/12/2014, 2:17:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We're also going to be launching Antholojam and Crash Override.
[29/12/2014, 2:17:11 AM] drinternetphd: omg
[29/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] drinternetphd: I just caught up
[29/12/2014, 2:17:16 AM] drinternetphd: yaaaay
[29/12/2014, 2:17:40 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Well, let's see what happens with Cernovich. It might be best to strike while he's down but I'll be preparing a draft.
[29/12/2014, 2:17:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah i'll be helping with whatever i can
[29/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Zoe is amazing at callout posts, I'm more the one-liner generator.
[29/12/2014, 2:17:59 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We'll be double-teaming it.
[29/12/2014, 2:18:02 AM] Dina : good combo
[29/12/2014, 2:18:04 AM] drinternetphd: together we are an asshole voltron
[29/12/2014, 2:18:10 AM] Dina : LOL
[29/12/2014, 2:18:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): voltranus
[29/12/2014, 2:18:20 AM] drinternetphd: lol
[29/12/2014, 2:18:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
[29/12/2014, 2:18:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Chris: I'm personally hoping it's gonna make Cernovich's close law confidants real, real uncomfortable.
[29/12/2014, 2:18:32 AM] drinternetphd: yeah and honestly
[29/12/2014, 2:18:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
[29/12/2014, 2:18:45 AM] drinternetphd: another lawfriend told me that cernovich is an archetype
[29/12/2014, 2:18:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think a lot of them haven't really been paying attention to what his blog has become
[29/12/2014, 2:18:56 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Randazza is gonna have to say "I stand behind this chucklefuck who is actively tarnishing the image of first amendment lawyers."
[29/12/2014, 2:19:00 AM] drinternetphd: so I am trying to see if I can kick enough shit up to use him as a case study in asshole first amendment lawyers
[29/12/2014, 2:19:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
[29/12/2014, 2:19:14 AM] drinternetphd: the bar won't do shit about him because he doesn't have client relationships with the people he's harassing
[29/12/2014, 2:19:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: it'll be interesting to see Randazza's reaction
[29/12/2014, 2:19:17 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I think his relationship to R is the only thing he values nowadays.
[29/12/2014, 2:19:24 AM] drinternetphd: but if we make him inconvient to other lawyers he's fucked
[29/12/2014, 2:19:42 AM] drinternetphd: and hopefully will have less ability to ruin people's shit
[29/12/2014, 2:20:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It's of course going to be couched in the context of something larger, namely the bottom-of-the-barrel "professionals" trying to lend their credibility in the vacuum that is Gamergate and actively fucking their cause.
[29/12/2014, 2:20:18 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Based ________.
[29/12/2014, 2:20:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: right
[29/12/2014, 2:21:05 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Might also draw some of Cerno's aggro towards me, which would be fine. The only things his PIs have turned up about me have been demonstrably false.
[29/12/2014, 2:27:04 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, January is gonna be the fucking reckoning. We'll see about stacking it on even further.
[29/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I remember when I found out Mike C. actually makes fruit/vegetable juice for a living.
[29/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hostilities will commence after the holidays. *puts on Dukakis helmet*
Chelsea supposedly has a rat king connection to Randall of the xkcd webcomic.
[29/12/2014, 2:27:59 AM] drinternetphd: hmmm
[29/12/2014, 2:28:00 AM] drinternetphd: hmmmmmmm
[29/12/2014, 2:28:03 AM] drinternetphd: hmmmmmmmmm
[29/12/2014, 2:28:04 AM] drinternetphd: so
[29/12/2014, 2:28:14 AM] drinternetphd: I am connected to randall of xkcd
[29/12/2014, 2:28:23 AM] drinternetphd: I wonder if he'd feel like shitting on these nerdlords
[29/12/2014, 2:28:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I saw him the other month when he came to our Amazon office
[29/12/2014, 2:28:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He's cool
[29/12/2014, 2:28:44 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[29/12/2014, 2:28:55 AM] drinternetphd: I am apparently a carbon copy of his wife. we even dated the same person and stuff
Part of the rat kings' game plan was to have Chris Kluwe-less do a debate with Cernovich. The rat king was doing some cringey roleplay in their chat about what Chris should do to totally own him and what Cernovich would do, then Chelsea started chimping about Eron and Cernovich supposedly threatening to "dox sjws with subpoenas."
[29/12/2014, 2:44:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Why do you, as someone completely uninterested in video games, have such a vested interest in Gamergate?"
[29/12/2014, 2:44:18 AM] drinternetphd: if he doesn't mention eron he's a liar
[29/12/2014, 2:44:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Isn't that remarkably similar to........ white knighting?"
[29/12/2014, 2:44:25 AM] Peter Coffin: “it’s about the rights of men”
[29/12/2014, 2:44:27 AM] Charloppe: you could say hes....co-oping lol
[29/12/2014, 2:44:28 AM] drinternetphd: do you need like
[29/12/2014, 2:44:30 AM] Alex Lifschitz: perfect
[29/12/2014, 2:44:31 AM] drinternetphd: data on that
[29/12/2014, 2:44:33 AM] Peter Coffin: “men’s rights"
[29/12/2014, 2:44:37 AM] drinternetphd: like how my ex looped him in or anything
[29/12/2014, 2:44:38 AM] Peter Coffin: “uhhhh games"
[29/12/2014, 2:45:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm not totally sure how eron got him involved, i know he was trying to post to any message board that would accept a captcha
[29/12/2014, 2:45:07 AM] Tesseract: I should probably be digging through juicebro's tweets for shit right about now
[29/12/2014, 2:45:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): To the ethicsmobile!
[29/12/2014, 2:45:26 AM] Charloppe: stalker going to stalk :/
[29/12/2014, 2:45:28 AM] Alex Lifschitz: DOX DOX DOX
[29/12/2014, 2:45:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: i figured it filtered through the manosphere like some unholy stain
[29/12/2014, 2:45:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: WHAT DO YOU DOOOO TO ESS JAWY DOUBLE-YEWWWWWS
[29/12/2014, 2:45:36 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: he reached out personally
[29/12/2014, 2:45:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh wow
[29/12/2014, 2:45:43 AM] drinternetphd: asked for legal advice with his shitbag friend ben hitov
[29/12/2014, 2:45:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: WHITE KNIGHT MIKE, SAVE ME
[29/12/2014, 2:45:48 AM] drinternetphd: they did that with popehat too
[29/12/2014, 2:45:53 AM] Charloppe: lolololol
[29/12/2014, 2:45:56 AM] drinternetphd: and popehat told him publicly to go fuck himself
[29/12/2014, 2:46:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's even better
[29/12/2014, 2:46:14 AM] drinternetphd: I wish I'd saved the tweets but I didn't know who cerno was or what was going to come of it
[29/12/2014, 2:46:27 AM] drinternetphd: but I do have the tweets from cerno about eron
[29/12/2014, 2:46:35 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=from:playdangerously to:popehat&src=typd
[29/12/2014, 2:46:37 AM] drinternetphd: and how he was a "nice guy" but mike isn't
[29/12/2014, 2:46:46 AM] drinternetphd: and then threatening to dox sjws with subpoenas
[29/12/2014, 2:46:48 AM] drinternetphd: I have those tweets.
Chelsea claimed Phil Fish was really hacked and that the IP address of his hacker matched the IP of someone who hacked her Tumblr.
[29/12/2014, 2:59:23 AM] drinternetphd: oh lovely.
[29/12/2014, 2:59:35 AM] Peter Coffin: phil fish very clearly was hacked. his tone was extremely panicked and aggressive
[29/12/2014, 2:59:41 AM] Peter Coffin: THAT is enough to tell
[29/12/2014, 2:59:49 AM] drinternetphd: he was hacked.
[29/12/2014, 2:59:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: thanks
[29/12/2014, 2:59:58 AM] drinternetphd: and I have the ip address of the guy who did it and it matches who hacked my tumblr.
[29/12/2014, 3:00:03 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Be sure to ask him how that Weird Twitter Gawker Shill investigation into the five figures is going. I'm awaiting my subpoena.
[29/12/2014, 3:00:10 AM] drinternetphd: good fucking luck getting law enforcement to give a fuck tho
Chelsea had started stalking through Eron's web presence and said that it gives her "really aggro headaches" when she look at "too much toxic shit from my abuser."
[29/12/2014, 3:03:52 AM] drinternetphd: ugh
[29/12/2014, 3:04:40 AM] Charloppe: you ok zoe?
[29/12/2014, 3:04:50 AM] Tesseract: "Poor Anita Sarkeesian. She took the spotlight from Zoe Quinn by faking death threat. How will she one-up the celeb nudes?"
[29/12/2014, 3:04:56 AM] Tesseract: that was just like, four of his tweets in a row
[29/12/2014, 3:05:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
[29/12/2014, 3:05:35 AM] drinternetphd: yeah my head is just doing that thing that it does when I see too much toxic shit from my abuser
[29/12/2014, 3:05:42 AM] drinternetphd: like I get really aggro headaches
[29/12/2014, 3:05:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx):
[29/12/2014, 3:05:59 AM] Charloppe:
[29/12/2014, 3:06:04 AM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry zoe
[29/12/2014, 3:06:10 AM] drinternetphd: it's ok
[29/12/2014, 3:06:57 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It's okay we're gonna play Alan Wake and have sushi later.
[29/12/2014, 3:07:06 AM] drinternetphd: AND DDR
[29/12/2014, 3:07:10 AM] drinternetphd: I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT DDR
Chelsea wanted Chris to have Cernovich say that Eron "brought him into" Gamergate and that it would "be tremendous." Chelsea also said she "pointed a journo in the direction of the debate."
[29/12/2014, 3:16:41 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe
[29/12/2014, 3:16:42 AM] Rob: that's awesome
[29/12/2014, 3:16:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: was a path of exile joke
[29/12/2014, 3:16:47 AM] drinternetphd: can I make a request?
[29/12/2014, 3:16:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: of course
[29/12/2014, 3:17:00 AM] drinternetphd: if there's any way you could get juicebro to admit eron brought him into this
[29/12/2014, 3:17:03 AM] drinternetphd: that would be tremendous
[29/12/2014, 3:17:07 AM] drinternetphd: especially if it's being recorded.
[29/12/2014, 3:17:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: no problemo
[29/12/2014, 3:17:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's actually what i told him we'd start with, "the origins of gamergate"
[29/12/2014, 3:17:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: so it shouldn't be hard at all
[29/12/2014, 3:18:26 AM] drinternetphd: so uh
[29/12/2014, 3:18:32 AM] drinternetphd: I may have pointed a journo in the direction of the debate
[29/12/2014, 3:18:33 AM] drinternetphd: hope that's ok
[29/12/2014, 3:18:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: no worries at all
[29/12/2014, 3:20:01 AM] drinternetphd: I am turning into a social justice rogue
Cernovich had tweeted something about "subspace" so of course his rat king stalkers had been ooking about it. Chelsea explained what it meant and said she knew because she "seems to be everyone's sex therapist."
[29/12/2014, 3:48:41 AM] Tesseract: now I'm curious about this "subspace" shit he was tweeting about
[29/12/2014, 3:48:57 AM] drinternetphd: ok so
[29/12/2014, 3:49:14 AM] drinternetphd: that term means the headspace people who are subs get into where they're like totally roleplayed out
[29/12/2014, 3:49:31 AM] drinternetphd: like the "will do anything for the dom/enjoying anything being dished out actively" type stuff
[29/12/2014, 3:49:44 AM] drinternetphd: basically it's been described to me as like a transcendant kind of roleplay headspace
[29/12/2014, 3:49:50 AM] Tesseract: oh I meant I thought he was posting some ridiculous super serum esque shit but this explanation works also
[29/12/2014, 3:49:57 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Damn good work, Tess. Add to his dossier in the trello?
[29/12/2014, 3:50:03 AM] drinternetphd: (I have a lot of friends into kink stuff and seem to be everyone's sex therapist haha)
[29/12/2014, 3:50:37 AM] drinternetphd: the more you know ===*
So the rat king was pissing themselves with glee for hours about the Cernovich-Kluwe debate, and Cernovich ended up rescheduling it.
[29/12/2014, 10:57:23 AM] drinternetphd: yooo how'd the debate go
[29/12/2014, 10:57:37 AM] Rob: Juicebro fudged the time, rescheduled to tomorrow
[29/12/2014, 10:57:42 AM] Rob: I believe
[29/12/2014, 10:57:57 AM] drinternetphd: shit I owe alex 5 bucks
At the end of the 5th Main Chat log leak, Alex Lifshit said he and Chelsea were going to be going to Los Angeles and that they shouldn't tell Cernovich they would be there or else he would "start screaming about how [they're] coming to kill him." He also claimed they would be on "sparingly" for the next week, which seems unlikely.
[29/12/2014, 1:39:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: In other news we will be on sparingly for the next week or so because we're going to LA and fuck that place
[29/12/2014, 1:39:42 PM] Alex Lifschitz: So, y'know, keep being awesome and alert us if shit gets on fire
[29/12/2014, 1:40:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Going to CA to kick Mike C's ass?
[29/12/2014, 1:40:06 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Also don't tell anyone we'll be in LA or Cernovich will start screaming about how we're coming to kill him
[29/12/2014, 1:40:13 PM] Tesseract: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/04/01/bodybuilder-tells-truth-steroids-hgh-gay-pay/ what the fuck
[29/12/2014, 1:40:18 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): good point. lol
[29/12/2014, 1:40:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Mostly we're going to see my sister and eat ramen and stay with a musician in the desert
[29/12/2014, 1:40:57 PM] David Gallant: Have fun in LA, you two. Or have whatever it is you're going down there to do.
[29/12/2014, 1:41:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: fun
[29/12/2014, 1:42:36 PM] Alex Lifschitz: basically family obligation, otherwise LA is horrendous
About 9 hours later, Alex and Chelsea were briefly back in the chat before presumably falling asleep (the rest of the rat king had spent the day sperging about Cernovich and Gamergate).
[29/12/2014, 10:08:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: It's really amazing how chan culture, the only thing that gave them the power to terrorize, also toppled them as the thing that allowed them to be dismissed so easily or caught with their pants down
[29/12/2014, 10:51:39 PM] drinternetphd: I don't have booze but I do have mango mate ginger beer with caffiene in it from this ridiculous ginger beer place
[29/12/2014, 10:52:17 PM] Rob: I've never had ginger beer
[29/12/2014, 10:54:36 PM] drinternetphd: it's sooo good
[29/12/2014, 10:54:39 PM] drinternetphd: and pretty easy to DIY
As we already knew, multiple rat king members were dedicating their waking hours to stalking Cernovich. Lifshit wanted to make sure they were saving all of Cernovich's tweets in a Notepad file or spreadsheet.
[30/12/2014, 5:25:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Heya Tess, you logging these tweets at all?
[30/12/2014, 5:25:50 AM] Tesseract: srh logged most of them for me
[30/12/2014, 5:25:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It would be a good way to have a Tweets of Note compendium.
[30/12/2014, 5:26:05 AM] Tesseract: I'm pasting them in a notepad file yes
[30/12/2014, 5:26:07 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Maybe a spreadsheet or some shit. URL and text.
[30/12/2014, 5:26:26 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Notepad file should work, I think gdocs might have a fancy tweet retrieval algorithm.
The rat king was reporting a Medium blog post for "dox" because it was about Chelsea's affidavit. Chelsea was bitter because Eron was supportive of Hotwheels (who the rat king had spent motnhs attemping to ruin the life of for hosting the chan Gamergate was using) and "taking the chance to dig at [her]". Jake Alley somehow didnt know what "freeze peach" was supposed to be mocking.
[30/12/2014, 7:35:29 AM] Remy: Oh speak of the devil I just got an e-mail from Medium saying my complain about that dox on zoe's affidavit
[30/12/2014, 7:35:32 AM] Charloppe: i obviously think how hes treated women in the past is fucked up but chris is just so complicated to sum up easily
[30/12/2014, 7:35:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, what did they say?
[30/12/2014, 7:36:01 AM] Remy: They said it has been resolved. funny because the link still works
[30/12/2014, 7:36:09 AM] Remy: https://medium.com/@brokenomelette/understanding-the-zoe-affidavit-29d001415f23
[30/12/2014, 7:39:21 AM] drinternetphd:
[30/12/2014, 7:39:35 AM] Peter Coffin: what does resolved mean then
[30/12/2014, 7:39:42 AM] Peter Coffin: “eh, fuck it?”
[30/12/2014, 7:39:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So... this is probably the worst place to ask, but anything positive and uplifting going on today?
[30/12/2014, 7:39:54 AM] drinternetphd: meanwhile my ex is praising hotwheels while taking the chance to dig at me [30/12/2014, 7:40:11 AM] Peter Coffin: as he hangs out in pedo heaven with his pedo board
[30/12/2014, 7:40:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe, KiA is promoting Eron's fundraising hard today, too :/
[30/12/2014, 7:40:28 AM] drinternetphd: I am aware.
[30/12/2014, 7:41:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): My comment that says "But GamerGate is not about Zoe Quinn..." is at -64 points!
[30/12/2014, 7:41:28 AM] drinternetphd: I like how no one says it's a restraining order
[30/12/2014, 7:41:31 AM] drinternetphd: when that's all it is
[30/12/2014, 7:41:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): YOU TOOKS HIS FREEZE PEACH
[30/12/2014, 7:41:57 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: OH!
[30/12/2014, 7:42:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I only just got that
[30/12/2014, 7:42:36 AM] drinternetphd: look he just really, really, legally needs to try and ruin my life
[30/12/2014, 7:42:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Kept seeing people saying that and thinking it was slang for something really awful I didn't want to know anything about.
[30/12/2014, 7:42:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Which... I mean I guess is still true.
Chelsea said she woke up and did like "40% of a first draft" of her Five Guys book pitch and said it was like "a muse came down from heaven and gently laid her balls on my face."
[31/12/2014, 12:06:17 AM] drinternetphd: hey folks
[31/12/2014, 12:06:17 AM] Athena Hollow: I'll explicitly leave the word "harassment" out of it, and just point out how fucking gross it all is, and that it's hardly cherry picking when the goddamn cherry grove is attacking you with rotten cherries.
[31/12/2014, 12:06:21 AM] Athena Hollow: Hey zoe.
[31/12/2014, 12:06:46 AM] Charloppe: wonderful
[31/12/2014, 12:06:52 AM] Charloppe: moltar retweeted my tweet
[31/12/2014, 12:06:56 AM] Charloppe: fucking ass
[31/12/2014, 12:07:12 AM] Rob: Hi zoe
[31/12/2014, 12:07:27 AM] drinternetphd: I woke up and did like 40% of a first draft on my pitch whatup
[31/12/2014, 12:07:33 AM] Athena Hollow: kickass! ^5
[31/12/2014, 12:07:54 AM] drinternetphd: I was laying in bed playing threes and then a muse came down from heaven and gently laid her balls on my face
[31/12/2014, 12:08:00 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 12:08:14 AM] Athena Hollow: speaking of balls on face, did you watch the kluwoff?
[31/12/2014, 12:08:19 AM] drinternetphd: nope I was on a plane
[31/12/2014, 12:08:20 AM] Dina : Hi Zoe
[31/12/2014, 12:08:26 AM] drinternetphd: hey dina~
[31/12/2014, 12:08:27 AM] Charloppe: so many fucking aplogists
[31/12/2014, 12:08:37 AM] Athena Hollow: it's still on youtube or you can d/l the mp4 from my server
[31/12/2014, 12:08:38 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[31/12/2014, 12:08:41 AM] drinternetphd: sweet
[31/12/2014, 12:09:00 AM] drinternetphd: will likely take a look at that once my good bit of energy for pitchwriting wears off
[31/12/2014, 12:09:09 AM] drinternetphd: a lot of it is notes but I have like half the chapter structure already
[31/12/2014, 12:09:09 AM] Athena Hollow:
[31/12/2014, 12:09:10 AM] Annie Kelly: hello zoe! congrats on the draft
[31/12/2014, 12:09:14 AM] drinternetphd: and a thesis for the intro
[31/12/2014, 12:09:23 AM] drinternetphd: that I am super proud of
Much like the rat king's undying hatred for Cernovich, their grudge against Brad Wardell was still ongoing and they tried to set him up by having rat king members play dumb in an attempt to entrap him so Chelsea could "nail his fucking balls to the wall" and "set the fucker on fire." Chelsea believed a joke video Wardell and his co-workers had made was real and was using it as part of the justification for attacking, stalking, and harassing him, as Wardell pointed out recently.
[31/12/2014, 1:17:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Can anyone investigate WTF Wardell is going on about here? https://twitter.com/draginol/status/549963266173435907
[31/12/2014, 1:18:11 AM] drinternetphd: cause it's a bald faced lie
[31/12/2014, 1:18:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Is he trying to say you photoshopped that convo w/ him & moose?
[31/12/2014, 1:18:24 AM] drinternetphd: I posted archive.todays and links ot the live tweets
[31/12/2014, 1:18:27 AM] drinternetphd: yes
[31/12/2014, 1:18:31 AM] Athena Hollow: Because of course he is.
[31/12/2014, 1:18:42 AM] drinternetphd: if you check my feed from forever ago I posted links to the actual shit
[31/12/2014, 1:18:46 AM] Athena Hollow: fucking hell.
[31/12/2014, 1:18:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: If someone can confirm that's what he's talking about it would be great to catch him in a bald-faced lie
[31/12/2014, 1:18:50 AM] drinternetphd: I'm not in a position to debunk it
[31/12/2014, 1:18:55 AM] drinternetphd: but if someone can that'd be nice
[31/12/2014, 1:19:01 AM] drinternetphd: lemme find it
[31/12/2014, 1:19:29 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/draginol/status/549965404215734272
[31/12/2014, 1:20:08 AM] Athena Hollow: ... um... noooooooo. IIR, you said "Oh look, he's courting the guy who drew THIS"
[31/12/2014, 1:20:18 AM] drinternetphd: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/539803357439737857
[31/12/2014, 1:20:18 AM] Athena Hollow: not "OMG WARDELL IS COURTING THIS GUY BECAUSE OF THIS PHOTO!"
[31/12/2014, 1:20:28 AM] drinternetphd: this tweet has the link to the live convo and an archive.today of it
[31/12/2014, 1:20:32 AM] drinternetphd: as well as the screenshot
[31/12/2014, 1:20:46 AM] drinternetphd: tweet still live btw
[31/12/2014, 1:20:47 AM] Athena Hollow: he's such a drama queen.
[[31/12/2014, 1:21:48 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Don't publicly shame the guy, get some clarification on what he means first.
[[31/12/2014, 1:21:57 AM] drinternetphd: and if he's trying to claim this was a photoshop this tweet also has links to the tweet and an archive of it https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/539804194870263808
[31/12/2014, 1:22:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: He's bad at words. I'd gently press for clarification of his accusation so you can have him dead to rights when he's full of shit.
[[31/12/2014, 1:22:44 AM] drinternetphd: give him enough rope to hang himself
[31/12/2014, 1:22:48 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Just ask him what he means, I suppose.
[31/12/2014, 1:23:02 AM] drinternetphd: or ask him what he's talking about
[31/12/2014, 1:23:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I guess "What photoshop are you referring to? Maybe I can figure out what's going on?"
[31/12/2014, 1:23:07 AM] drinternetphd: tell him to point out the photoshop
[31/12/2014, 1:23:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like, replying to the thread and being "Sorry, I had never heard of this. What are you referring to?"
[31/12/2014, 1:23:11 AM] Athena Hollow: heh
[31/12/2014, 1:23:37 AM] Athena Hollow: agreed.
[[31/12/2014, 1:26:43 AM] drinternetphd: nail his fucking balls to the wall
[31/12/2014, 1:26:58 AM] Ian Cheong: IIRC she never PS'd any cartoons. I just saw her confrontation with you and a screencap of your convo with ShreddedMoose.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:15 AM] drinternetphd: no fuck him link him to his own tweet publicly
[31/12/2014, 1:27:19 AM] drinternetphd: include the archive.today
[31/12/2014, 1:27:19 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
[31/12/2014, 1:27:45 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah he can request it be deleted.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:47 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Link him to his own, see if he's dumb enough to try deleting it after the fact
[31/12/2014, 1:27:50 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahah omg
[31/12/2014, 1:27:53 AM] Athena Hollow: that would be briliant.
[31/12/2014, 1:27:56 AM] Alex Lifschitz: And save timestamps to prove he deleted it
[31/12/2014, 1:28:09 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:28:19 AM] drinternetphd: bonus points for eron whining for a job in that thread
[31/12/2014, 1:28:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: That's the one. Got the timestamp. https://www.dropbox.com/s/b29f5lyejqawv8y/Screenshot 2014-12-30 09.28.12.png?dl=0
[31/12/2014, 1:28:37 AM] drinternetphd: he isn;t saying I photoshopped a cartoon
[31/12/2014, 1:28:45 AM] drinternetphd: he said I photoshopped a tweet between him and someone, which I didn't
[31/12/2014, 1:28:54 AM] Charloppe: im convinced that gg is the missing link
[31/12/2014, 1:28:56 AM] drinternetphd: attack that specific accusation
[31/12/2014, 1:28:59 AM] Charloppe: they cant be this stupid
[31/12/2014, 1:29:05 AM] drinternetphd: put a period in front of it.
[31/12/2014, 1:29:10 AM] drinternetphd: set the fucker on fire
[31/12/2014, 1:29:20 AM] drinternetphd: he does nothing but fucking abuse people in industry
[31/12/2014, 1:29:27 AM] drinternetphd: he fucking throws bees at people with allergies for christ sake
[31/12/2014, 1:29:43 AM] drinternetphd: maybe replace "your" with "this"
[31/12/2014, 1:29:48 AM] Ian Cheong: ah yeah
[31/12/2014, 1:29:54 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Again, I'd probably just private reply with "This one?" and a link to his live tweet.
[31/12/2014, 1:30:01 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Polite, informal, doesn't look like dogpiling.
[31/12/2014, 1:30:03 AM] drinternetphd: no dude
[31/12/2014, 1:30:06 AM] drinternetphd: he fucking knows what he's doing
[31/12/2014, 1:30:14 AM] drinternetphd: and all he does is try to get people to dogpile. look what he did to that forum
[31/12/2014, 1:30:25 AM] drinternetphd: he deliberately sicced GG on a goddamned forum because he didn't like the owner
[31/12/2014, 1:30:28 AM] drinternetphd: fuck him
Chelsea was chimping out about a Boston Magazine writer who had wanted to interview Chelsea and Eron. Chelsea said she had repeatedly told him not to do it, and was begging the rat king to help her write a response to convince him to not go through with it. (Note: It did get published months later)
[31/12/2014, 6:03:52 AM] drinternetphd: fucking barf
[31/12/2014, 6:03:57 AM] SF: Pecking orders aren't about whether you're at the top, they're about whether you're at the bottom.
[31/12/2014, 6:04:03 AM] SF: Everyone just wants someone beneath them.
[31/12/2014, 6:04:15 AM] drinternetphd: the boston magazine reporter who asked me to talk about my relationship with eron pre-gg is still going ahead with the story
[31/12/2014, 6:04:17 AM] Dina : yep^
[31/12/2014, 6:04:21 AM] drinternetphd: despite being told not to multiple times
[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] Dina : wtf?
[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] drinternetphd: and has already interviewed eron
[31/12/2014, 6:04:36 AM] Dina : WTF
[31/12/2014, 6:04:38 AM] live:riotarms: Ugh
[31/12/2014, 6:05:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am trying to write a response that isn't just "please fuck off forever"
[31/12/2014, 6:05:24 AM] drinternetphd: can y'all give me some advice? I can copypaste the correspondence
[31/12/2014, 6:05:26 AM] SF: As always you're put in a position where you're forced to be a saint when you shouldn't have to be..
[31/12/2014, 6:05:30 AM] live:riotarms: The Internet has given people some bizzare and harmful ideas about privacy :/
[31/12/2014, 6:05:40 AM] drinternetphd: spam incoming
[31/12/2014, 6:05:41 AM] Charloppe: chloe ending up in the er is apparently faking suicide
[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] drinternetphd: his first email: Dear Ms. Quinn,
I am writing a story on your former relationship with Eron Gjoni for a coming issue of Boston Magazine.
This will not focus on the savage attacks against you and others after Gjoni published his blog, but rather will document the relationship up to the point when Gjoni decided to publish. Are you willing and available for an interview sometime in the next week to share your account of the relationship?
Thank you very much. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] Charloppe: I am filled with so much hate right now
[31/12/2014, 6:06:01 AM] SF: That's TB's kind of reasoning.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:05 AM] drinternetphd: my response:
Hi Zak, thanks for contacting me.
As you may have discovered in your research, I am currently not willing nor able to discuss any details of my personal life, for fear that any such published information invariably puts me in danger of further attacks by Gamergate, regardless of their veracity or slant. This is, sadly, the reality of the situation, and I am looking out for my personal safety when I say this. Beyond that, I honestly feel that I am entitled to some small semblance of privacy left, and do not think that details of my personal relationships are anyone's business but those involved with them.
You may also know that my ex, Eron Gjoni, is currently under a restraining order from the Boston Municipal Court, the provisions of which dictate that he is unable to discuss my personal life, past or present, in any published form. This has been issued due to the clear danger any such airing of personal information about me places me in.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:26 AM] drinternetphd: His response:
Thanks very much, Zoe. That would have been my response as well.
I'll let you know if I have any follow-up questions.
Best,
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:06:44 AM] drinternetphd: My response:
I am really, really hoping you're not going to run a one-sided story about this with only my abusive ex's account.
[31/12/2014, 6:06:59 AM] drinternetphd: His response:
Dear Zoe,
I would never write nor publish that. Are you available for a very brief phone conversation to discuss the crux of this story, off the record?
Best,
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:07:13 AM] SF: Oh, so he lied.
[31/12/2014, 6:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: My response:
That's good to hear.
Is there any way we could stick to email instead?
[31/12/2014, 6:07:22 AM] live:riotarms: Barf
[31/12/2014, 6:07:34 AM] drinternetphd: (weeks go by)
[31/12/2014, 6:07:40 AM] David Gallant: Starting to sound sketchy.
[31/12/2014, 6:07:50 AM] drinternetphd: his response:
Dear Zoe,
I’m sorry for the delay.
The last thing I want this story to be is something that provides attackers with more poison to spew. That was my first question when the editors approached me with the story, and they assured me that all we want to do with Gamergate is include a brief section summarizing the vicious, vile assaults on you and many others.
This story will focus on Eron Gjoni’s blog post, and how and why it ignited such savagery. It will feature reflections from as many possible sides and as many possible sources as are willing to speak. I would be very happy to talk to anyone you recommend. And of course the details of your private life you don’t want to reveal are not for the public record. Anything you don’t want to talk about, we wouldn’t talk about. Anything you do, we would.
This story will not appear for another three months. As Gamergate continues, the story of its origin has blurred, and never really been visited in depth. I aim to do that in this story, and I can’t get at the truth of it without talking to its first victim.
Thank you very much again. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best,
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:07:53 AM] SF: How is the actual nature of your relationship even relevant to what's happened at this point.
[31/12/2014, 6:08:13 AM] drinternetphd: (I didn't respond so he sent me this this morning)
[31/12/2014, 6:08:14 AM] drinternetphd: Dear Zoe,
Hope you've been well.
I am finished with the reporting of Mr. Gjoni's side of the story. If you, or anyone you would recommend I speak to, are available to talk sometime soon, please let me know. Again, it would be a tremendous help in crafting the full scope of this story if you are available to talk, about anything you'd like, either over the phone, over dinner, coffee, Skype, anything. I know you've suffered immeasurable pain and abuse, and as I've said, I hope that this story will in some small way help alleviate some of that. If you have any time at all for a conversation about your life, your career, your thoughts on the story, I would greatly appreciate it. To give you a sense of the kind of writing I'm interested in, here are a few recent samples: http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Memorial-Days.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fea_schools_madeloni-2.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Turning-Point_ZEJ.pdf.
Thank you very much.
Best,
Zak
[31/12/2014, 6:08:44 AM] drinternetphd: currently drafting mine, this is all I have so far:
Zak,
I'm still pretty disappointed to hear that you're going ahead with the story, especially considering my ex has publicly stated that he won't work with any journalist that doesn't spend multiple paragraphs defaming me (source here: ) and has willfully misrepresented people who have interviewed him in the past (source here: ). It's especially disheartening to read this while I am still not allowed to be home in boston because of the frequency and specificity of the threats made against me. I am not sure how continuing to give my ex a platform to try and ruin my life is somehow meant to alleviate this nightmare, or how asking to revisit the relationship that was incredibly traumatic and abusive towards me is either. I sincerely do not understand your motivations here, or why you are continuing to ask this of me.
[31/12/2014, 6:08:45 AM] SF: So he said "no that's reasonable I agree with you" then came back with an ultimatum.
[31/12/2014, 6:09:10 AM] live:riotarms: By interviewing Gjoni could he be found to be in contempt of court or open to legal action?
[31/12/2014, 6:09:31 AM] drinternetphd: fighting this in court so far has been like pushing rope into a small hole
[31/12/2014, 6:09:46 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550050865592406017 cant believe I have to make this tweet
[31/12/2014, 6:09:47 AM] live:riotarms: Gah, I'm sorry
[31/12/2014, 6:09:52 AM] Charloppe: ppl are so fucking dense
[31/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] drinternetphd: so I think I am gonna refer him to other women he's harassed
Chelsea claimed Eron has been abusing multiple women in the few months since he had dumped her. She was mad because "Eron's shit had been totally dropped from the narrative about what GG is." Chelsea also said she disliked the Bostom Mag writer.
[31/12/2014, 6:10:09 AM] SF: I wonder if citing Gjoni's tumblr post where he talks specifically about journalism being a deliberate smokescreen tactic would be useful.
[31/12/2014, 6:10:54 AM] SF: https://archive.today/OVXNf#selection-49.11-49.113 (that one)
[31/12/2014, 6:11:12 AM] live:riotarms: You could maybe cite the ethical code he's violating (the same one Milo violated)
[31/12/2014, 6:12:14 AM] Dina : um
[31/12/2014, 6:12:26 AM] Dina : I don't think anything would deter this person
[31/12/2014, 6:12:34 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah
[31/12/2014, 6:12:35 AM] Dina : they are clearly reaching for maximum drama
[31/12/2014, 6:12:38 AM] Dina : aka pageviews
[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] drinternetphd: it seems that way
[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] Dina : not a shred of decency
[31/12/2014, 6:12:54 AM] drinternetphd: so now it's about damage control
[31/12/2014, 6:13:04 AM] Dina : Zoe definitely link him to previous exes he abused
[31/12/2014, 6:13:08 AM] Dina : if they're willing to talk
[31/12/2014, 6:13:13 AM] drinternetphd: I'm his second girlfriend
[31/12/2014, 6:13:19 AM] Dina : that's honestly the best option
[31/12/2014, 6:13:27 AM] drinternetphd: I am referring him to other women he's since abused tho
[31/12/2014, 6:13:35 AM] Dina : well the first and I'm sorry you were in a relationship with an abusive shit
[31/12/2014, 6:13:48 AM] Dina : that too
[31/12/2014, 6:14:01 AM] drinternetphd: bleh
[31/12/2014, 6:14:11 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna go for a walk and clear my head I think
[31/12/2014, 6:14:15 AM] live:riotarms: Who did that Hateful Boyfriend post
[31/12/2014, 6:14:21 AM] SF: Yeah, good idea.
[31/12/2014, 6:14:32 AM] live:riotarms: They'd be a good pick to refute his shit
[31/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: yeah I already sent an email asking if she's down
[31/12/2014, 6:15:34 AM] Dina : hugs, Zoe
[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] live:riotarms: That's awful though, I'm really sorry these arseholes are doing this to you
[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] drinternetphd: <3
[31/12/2014, 6:15:42 AM] drinternetphd: if anyone thinks of anything please lemme know
[31/12/2014, 6:15:43 AM] Dina : (hug)
[31/12/2014, 6:15:49 AM] Dina : will do
[31/12/2014, 6:16:01 AM] David Gallant: Hugs if you want them, Zoe. This guy is ridiculous.
[31/12/2014, 6:38:23 AM] drinternetphd: it continually drives me mad that eron's shit has been totally dropped from the narrative around what GG is
[31/12/2014, 6:41:10 AM] Charloppe:
[31/12/2014, 6:41:23 AM] live:riotarms: And you fuckin screencapped them saying LET'S START TALKING ABOUT ETHICS TO CONFUSE THE SJWS
[31/12/2014, 6:46:50 AM] Remy: Okay
[31/12/2014, 6:47:04 AM] Remy: And I read that weird series of e-mails, Zoe, sounds like a smarty reporter if they even are one
[31/12/2014, 6:47:08 AM] Remy: smarmy*
[31/12/2014, 6:47:20 AM] drinternetphd: I do not like this person
I believe there's screenshots from a #burgersandfries IRC, or some other Gamergate-focused IRC, which CHelsea flaunted to journalists as proof Gooberglobs wanted to rape her. According to Chelsea the IRC ops released the logs themselves and edited them to "make themselves look better."
[31/12/2014, 6:42:32 AM] live:riotarms: I was trying to break down some fucker linking to the log at WHTM and a sealion jumped in going "that log is salted!"
[31/12/2014, 6:42:42 AM] Remy: Good morning/afternoon everybody
[31/12/2014, 6:42:43 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/GamerGatoruy/status/550059199020171264
[31/12/2014, 6:42:45 AM] Charloppe: wow
[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] live:riotarms: What does that even mean?
[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] Charloppe: such deflection
[31/12/2014, 6:42:52 AM] David Gallant: "log is salted"? What?
[31/12/2014, 6:42:53 AM] drinternetphd: ha that log isn't even mine
[31/12/2014, 6:43:09 AM] drinternetphd: the irc released it and edited it to make themselves look better
[31/12/2014, 6:43:21 AM] live:riotarms: yes
[31/12/2014, 6:43:36 AM] David Gallant: So I guess the log IS salted, just not by Zoe.
[31/12/2014, 6:43:44 AM] live:riotarms: These fuckers are from Bizzaro World
[31/12/2014, 6:44:02 AM] live:riotarms: If they edited it to me themselves look BETTER...
[31/12/2014, 6:44:09 AM] live:riotarms: I shudder to think
"gg is digging into literally everywhere I've ever worked"
As we saw with pedophile Sick Nick Nyberg, the Gamergate diggers were working on a New Year's surprise for the anti-Gamergate rat kings with many anons striking gold. Chelsea was chimping because they were digging deeper into her web presence and had found her LiveJournal, which she tried to delete but was "too late." Chelsea also said she had been talking with a lawyer to try to get a precedent set out of what was happening to her.
[31/12/2014, 8:22:39 AM] drinternetphd: shit wrong window
[31/12/2014, 8:22:49 AM] drinternetphd: gg is digging into literally everywhere I've ever worked http://i.gyazo.com/934a1148960758dd0c1c52f1f69e8bae.png
[31/12/2014, 8:23:02 AM] Remy: but it's not about you, right?
[31/12/2014, 8:23:09 AM] drinternetphd: fucking psychos
[31/12/2014, 8:23:13 AM] Remy: That's what they say on all the t-shirts
[31/12/2014, 8:24:19 AM] live:riotarms: Say what you will about the UK's draconian bullshit but that wouldn't stand over here
[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: cool there's a thread about my lj from when I was 16/17 too
[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/154362+50.html
[31/12/2014, 8:24:57 AM] live:riotarms: (Which is why it pays to tip off any GGers in the UK to the cops online)
[31/12/2014, 8:24:59 AM] Remy: Isn't that the one you just said you were able to delete?
[31/12/2014, 8:25:47 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[31/12/2014, 8:25:49 AM] drinternetphd: too late tho
[31/12/2014, 8:25:53 AM] drinternetphd: fucking. psychos.
[31/12/2014, 8:25:55 AM] Remy: I wish they would know how this feels
[31/12/2014, 8:26:12 AM] Remy: To have hordes of strangers digging into their past
[31/12/2014, 8:28:45 AM] Remy: ugh, today sucks just as bad as yesterday. I'm done
[31/12/2014, 8:28:55 AM] Remy: And I still haven't scheduled an appt with the doc
[31/12/2014, 8:31:29 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/f2b1b7c4beac6260d8803d69024aee86.png
[31/12/2014, 8:31:38 AM] drinternetphd: wish I still had contact with any of those people
[31/12/2014, 8:32:55 AM] live:riotarms: And this improves Kotaku how
[31/12/2014, 8:33:06 AM] live:riotarms: Dicks
[31/12/2014, 8:33:30 AM] drinternetphd: like they've now literally harassed every place I've worked at for more than a few months
[31/12/2014, 8:33:40 AM] drinternetphd: also this is yet another charity they're harassing
[31/12/2014, 8:34:06 AM] Remy: I wonder if we won't actually see them shut up until a group of businesses decides to sue them for damages
[31/12/2014, 8:34:09 AM] Remy: For all of the harassment
[31/12/2014, 8:34:23 AM] Remy: Like... if we literally have to get our nations highest class citizens, the corporations, involved
[31/12/2014, 8:34:33 AM] Remy: before the feds will get off their asses
[31/12/2014, 8:35:05 AM] drinternetphd: I am still talking to lawyers and looking for someone down to set precident. Had a good call with a promising one earlier today.
[31/12/2014, 8:36:49 AM] Remy: I'm glad to hear it
[31/12/2014, 8:37:02 AM] drinternetphd: the lawyer had something like this done to her too
[31/12/2014, 8:37:03 AM] drinternetphd: so
[31/12/2014, 8:37:18 AM] Remy: She'll be invested and motivated
[31/12/2014, 8:37:21 AM] Remy: Good.
[31/12/2014, 8:37:44 AM] Remy: I have trust issues with doctors and lawyers so I like to hear when they have a dog in the fight, so to speak
[31/12/2014, 8:37:51 AM] drinternetphd: same here to all of that
[31/12/2014, 8:38:05 AM] Remy: ^_^" I'm glad you understand I was afraid that would sound insensitive
[31/12/2014, 8:38:16 AM] drinternetphd: nah it makes total sense
[31/12/2014, 8:38:30 AM] Remy: And life tends to wear me down and make me cynical and utilitarian
[31/12/2014, 8:39:02 AM] live:riotarms: Any kind of union representation that could help?
[31/12/2014, 8:39:14 AM] Remy: Hmm... that's a good idea
[31/12/2014, 8:40:15 AM] Remy: Don't show business industries usually have remarkably tenacious unions?
[31/12/2014, 8:41:02 AM] Remy: Maybe Athena has some contacts who would be interested in joining an action to combat online stalking and abuse
[31/12/2014, 8:41:20 AM] live:riotarms: Union reps are good dudes to watch a back
[31/12/2014, 8:43:09 AM] Remy: And once the fight can coalesce into multiple complainants bringing forth a united case it would only be a matter of time before video game studios pour in their support by the thousands
[31/12/2014, 8:43:52 AM] drinternetphd: this is so CREEPY http://i.gyazo.com/620e9f70aad991c7ac1b17a256b29341.png
[31/12/2014, 8:45:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Sadly, offhand, I know nada. Porn industry has dick on that front and all the mainstream entertainment people I know are either 'starving artists' or work with SAG/AFTRA.
[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Remy: damn
[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah, holy fucking shit. How does this not ring bells in their heads that say "NO NO NO TO FAR!"
One of the rat kings remakred that "literally nobody" must care about the anons doing the digging since it was on New Year's Eve, which is hilarious since the same idiot who said that spent Christmas Eve and Christmas Day and was spending his own New Year's in an anti-Gamergate Skype chat.
[31/12/2014, 8:50:06 AM] drinternetphd: nothin like finding your dox in a search engine
[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Remy: ugh
[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Athena Hollow: -_-
[31/12/2014, 8:50:35 AM] Remy: They noticed the journals are deleted already?
[31/12/2014, 8:50:49 AM] Remy: They're actively looking at this shit?
[31/12/2014, 8:50:56 AM] drinternetphd: ys
[31/12/2014, 8:51:04 AM] drinternetphd: hence my skeeved-out ness
[31/12/2014, 8:51:05 AM] Remy: Well now we know they have literally nobody who cares about them during the holidays
[31/12/2014, 8:51:10 AM] Remy: I'm sorry Zoe
The rat kings were outraged when Chelsea said she was searching her name and found a pastebin of her dox. Charloppe, who is a tranny boyfriend of pedophile Sick Nick Nyberg, said Gamergaters "deserve crushing loneliness."
[31/12/2014, 9:18:20 AM] drinternetphd:
[31/12/2014, 9:18:24 AM] Remy: http://www.giantmicrobes.com/?gclid=CILOu4CO78ICFYVafgodvoYAVg
[31/12/2014, 9:18:29 AM] drinternetphd: while googling my old account names I found a dox on me
[31/12/2014, 9:18:30 AM] drinternetphd: "
=== SKYPES ===
drinternetphd
Zoe Quinn, Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Attached emails:
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
- [REDACTED]
P.S. to Zoe: Attaching more emails doesn't actually make a Skype account easier to recover; just easier to compromise."
[31/12/2014, 9:18:51 AM] Remy: wtf
[31/12/2014, 9:19:18 AM] Charloppe: im to tired and angry to make a stupid ethics joke
[31/12/2014, 9:19:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
[31/12/2014, 9:19:50 AM] Charloppe: these ppl deserve crushing loneliness
[31/12/2014, 9:22:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): holy crap. just found that pastebin now. that is only a small part of a HUGE dox dump. wtf
[31/12/2014, 9:23:49 AM] Charloppe: zoe deserves much better then this. Inhuman monsters.
[31/12/2014, 9:25:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I guess we can report it and hope it gets taken down
[31/12/2014, 9:26:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hop on over to Serious channel
Unfortunately we don't have the Serious Chat logs for this night as the salt must've been glorious in there. Chelsea had stopped talking in the main chat room for about an hour but was obviously still watching the chan threads as she outraged the rat king once more by posting a screencap of anons mocking her.
[31/12/2014, 10:06:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus this thread goes straight to 11
[31/12/2014, 10:06:04 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/ab459e77f8ce2cfc3302214b7c61c617.png
[31/12/2014, 10:06:05 AM] Charloppe: and boobs
[31/12/2014, 10:06:13 AM] live:riotarms: Night everyone
[31/12/2014, 10:06:18 AM] Charloppe: byyyye
[31/12/2014, 10:06:23 AM] Rob: Night!
[31/12/2014, 10:06:27 AM] Athena Hollow: holy fucking shit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe, holy shit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:40 AM] Rob: It's not loading for me
[31/12/2014, 10:06:42 AM] Athena Hollow: 8chan needs nuked from fucking orbit
[31/12/2014, 10:06:43 AM] Remy: I can't load it but I'll assume it's crazy
[31/12/2014, 10:06:55 AM] Rob: HOLY SHIT it just loaded
[31/12/2014, 10:06:58 AM] Athena Hollow: it's about ethics in revenge rape. :-/
Chelsea and the rest of the rat king began reporting pastebins and archives in an effort to SHUT IT DOWN.
[31/12/2014, 10:11:00 AM] drinternetphd: I tried a new thing
[31/12/2014, 10:11:06 AM] drinternetphd: reported the pastebins and archive.todays for abuse
[31/12/2014, 10:11:18 AM] Athena Hollow: me too
[31/12/2014, 10:11:21 AM] Remy: same
[31/12/2014, 10:11:34 AM] Remy: Izzy prepped a link that auto-filled the links
[31/12/2014, 10:11:35 AM] Tesseract: I just reported one pastebin, where were the other ones
[31/12/2014, 10:11:50 AM] Remy: ^ I will also report any others that are posted here
[31/12/2014, 10:11:53 AM] drinternetphd: [31/12/2014, 10:11:59 AM] drinternetphd: [31/12/2014, 10:12:31 AM] drinternetphd: or really just [31/12/2014, 10:12:38 AM] Remy: Oh wow that will do it
[31/12/2014, 10:13:12 AM] Tesseract: omg
[31/12/2014, 10:14:10 AM] Tesseract: can we get a huge list of shit to report
[31/12/2014, 10:14:22 AM] Tesseract: and for what
[31/12/2014, 10:14:50 AM] Tesseract: also move to seriouschat
An anon was directing a post towards Lifshit and jeered that Chelsea was "getting gangbanged" while he was white knighting her. Chelsea wondered "what is even wrong with getting gangbanged if that's your thing."
[31/12/2014, 10:35:51 AM] drinternetphd: "But apparently fucking 100 guys in 2 years is totally better than a relationship built on trust.
I know you're reading this Liftshit, she's getting gangbanged while you're "defending her honor" you fucking privileged trustfund baby."
[31/12/2014, 10:35:58 AM] drinternetphd: whee
[31/12/2014, 10:36:14 AM] Remy:
[31/12/2014, 10:36:24 AM] Remy: They're sociopaths, Zoe, I'm so sorry
[31/12/2014, 10:36:35 AM] Remy: They're so utterly detached that they've become dangerous
[31/12/2014, 10:36:43 AM] Remy: detached and malicious and dangerous
[31/12/2014, 10:36:44 AM] Athena Hollow: blar
[31/12/2014, 10:37:27 AM] drinternetphd: what is even wrong with getting gangbanged if that's your thing
[31/12/2014, 10:37:34 AM] drinternetphd: also who obsesses over a 17 year old's blog jfc
[31/12/2014, 10:38:03 AM] Athena Hollow: but WE'RE the sex negative ones, remember??
[31/12/2014, 10:38:05 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
[31/12/2014, 10:38:17 AM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, I just went and deleted mine when you mentioned yours for the same reason
[31/12/2014, 10:38:31 AM] Athena Hollow: most of it was random shit from before porn, some was after... either way, don't need it.
[31/12/2014, 11:00:08 AM] drinternetphd: lmao
[31/12/2014, 11:00:12 AM] drinternetphd: ">Guitar Center said come back when you're 18. After they said they'd hire me. Fucking assholes. A flat-out "no" would've been a lot less heartbreaking.
wait she was doing underage suicide girls style modeling?"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:16 AM] Dan Olson: "I'VE GOT 75!"
[31/12/2014, 11:00:23 AM] drinternetphd: this guy seriously thinks guitar center is like suicidegirls
Chelsea was chimping because the anons were "raiding [her] family really hard right now and doxing people [she] went to high school with." Chelsea told the rat king to report all archives about her.
[31/12/2014, 2:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: sorry. they're raiding my family really hard right now and doxing people I went to high school with
[31/12/2014, 2:44:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ugh
[31/12/2014, 2:44:29 PM] drinternetphd: because they found a livejournal where I was boring and 15/16
[31/12/2014, 2:48:56 PM] drinternetphd: please report any archive.todays you see about me
Chelsea continued to ook and eek about this "raid" and was bitching that she had to call her dad (who was apparently dying at the time) and one of the last convversations she had with him might be about Gamergate. She also complained because she and Lifshit were at his sister's house in LA and she had to "bail because a raid was happening." Chelsea was upset because she was being used as the "vector" to look into other people, such as an otherkin she was friends with in highschool.
[31/12/2014, 2:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: god fucking damnit this means another shitty phone call to my dad
[31/12/2014, 2:50:02 PM] Randi Harper: it's like when people that are new to dev are like "IM GONNA BE A KERNEL DEV WHEN I GROW UP"
[31/12/2014, 2:50:06 PM] Randi Harper: and it's like... you poor thing.
[31/12/2014, 2:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: he just called me two days ago to tell me I need to come home for will stuff
[31/12/2014, 2:50:08 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry zoe
[31/12/2014, 2:50:10 PM] drinternetphd: so that rules
[31/12/2014, 2:50:26 PM] drinternetphd: one of the last conversations I have with my father might be about gamergate.
[31/12/2014, 2:50:35 PM] Randi Harper: ack.
[31/12/2014, 2:50:36 PM] Randi Harper: hugs zoe
[31/12/2014, 2:50:56 PM] Peter Coffin: just one shitpile after another and i'm sorry this is how this is going in your life because of these people
[31/12/2014, 2:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: really glad the first time i was hanging out with one of alex's family members too ended in me having to bail because a raid was happening
[31/12/2014, 2:51:14 PM] drinternetphd: so glad this is my life now
[31/12/2014, 2:51:37 PM] Randi Harper: i'm talking to some congressional aide next week. you pursuing that route at all?
[31/12/2014, 2:51:57 PM] drinternetphd: haven't had the time
[31/12/2014, 2:52:31 PM] Peter Coffin: is it to early to know if they got anything sensitive from you?
[31/12/2014, 2:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: just shit to embarass me about having been 17 once
[31/12/2014, 2:53:16 PM] drinternetphd: I am more freaked out that they're going after people I haven't talked to in over 10 years and digging into my family again
[31/12/2014, 2:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: including in-person stalking my hometown
[31/12/2014, 2:53:32 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, that's super weird
[31/12/2014, 2:53:55 PM] drinternetphd: it's one thing when it's my life
[31/12/2014, 2:54:04 PM] drinternetphd: but when I'm the vector for totally unrelated people being harassed?
[31/12/2014, 2:54:09 PM] Peter Coffin: during my thing the attackers went after my ex and she and her now-husband got into contact with me about whether or not I made up a fake girlfriend
[31/12/2014, 2:54:10 PM] drinternetphd: when they're bringing up my shitty abusive childhood?
[31/12/2014, 2:54:48 PM] drinternetphd: like shit my friend said about shit:
[31/12/2014, 2:54:49 PM] drinternetphd: >http://tigerpoetess.livejournal.com/?skip=160
>I've been worried about Chelsea again too. She seems unhappy. I love her though and I wish she could find a way to be happy and do something she loves that will take her places in the world. She's definately got the spirit, she just needs the support and help of her friends. She will likely be all of a poet, singer, musician, writer, politician, philosopher, and artist in her adulthood. She's all that now, but I think she'll be recognized soon enough.
kek
[31/12/2014, 2:54:52 PM] Peter Coffin: it's majorly embarrassing, I'm sorry this is a new level of shit to deal with
[31/12/2014, 2:55:06 PM] drinternetphd: they're literally laughing at the fucked up shit I barely lived through when I was that age now
[31/12/2014, 2:55:15 PM] drinternetphd: and hurting the people that kept me alive
[31/12/2014, 2:55:19 PM] SF: It just goes to show it's not even you personally that they hate. They just hate.
[31/12/2014, 2:55:20 PM] drinternetphd: that have nothing to do with me anymore
[31/12/2014, 2:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: I don't care what the reasons are
[31/12/2014, 2:55:43 PM] Peter Coffin: they hate zoe quinn the symbol
[31/12/2014, 2:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: the girl they linked just now is a fucking otherkin
[31/12/2014, 2:55:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am scared for her
[31/12/2014, 2:55:55 PM] drinternetphd: or at least she was back at that age
Chelsea began breaking down because the diggers had found a boyfriend who was "like 30" when she was 15. (Earlier in the chat/this thread, Chelsea claimed this boyfriend was the one who directed 4chan to her nude modeling photos) Chelsea was so butthurt she whined, "why don't they fucking drive to my dad's house and break the lock off my diary while they're at it."
[31/12/2014, 2:58:12 PM] drinternetphd: ffffff
[31/12/2014, 2:58:38 PM] drinternetphd: one of the people they're digging into is someone I "dated" when I was 15 and he was like 30
[31/12/2014, 2:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: who has a criminal record and used to be a heroin user
[31/12/2014, 2:58:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am sure this will go SO FUCKING WELL for me
[31/12/2014, 2:58:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx):
[31/12/2014, 2:59:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: So they're on a recruitment drive then.
[31/12/2014, 2:59:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm just going to say that sounds like you would by default be the victim in that situation
[31/12/2014, 2:59:24 PM] drinternetphd: I am SO FUCKING GLAD that fucking "gamers" are dredging out the shit that I have been trying to heal from and move on from for my entire fucking life
[31/12/2014, 2:59:52 PM] drinternetphd: yeah welcome to my fucking origin. a lot of really horrible shit happened to me that I have worked so hard to move on from
[31/12/2014, 3:00:10 PM] drinternetphd: and now that's being fucking taken away from me
[31/12/2014, 3:00:14 PM] Peter Coffin: i'm sorry
[31/12/2014, 3:00:17 PM] drinternetphd: I spent YEARS fighting for that peace of mind
[31/12/2014, 3:00:24 PM] drinternetphd: basically crawled out of fucking hell
[31/12/2014, 3:01:38 PM] Peter Coffin: god I hate these fucking people.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:40 PM] SF: I really wish I had anything helpful to say. It's just exactly as horrible as it looks and there's nothing else to it.
[31/12/2014, 3:01:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I can sympathize a little here. I had a rather traumatic trip down memory lane the last time I was in the same room as my father but... yeah, there really are no words here.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:29 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I am desperately trying to think of ways to try to ease what kind of stress this has to be causing but I am not great at that
[31/12/2014, 3:02:38 PM] SF: I'm almost out of anger. It's just this numb feeling of static and heat.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Usual offers still apply though, anything you need in any capacity, just ask.
[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] SF: These people grew up in the first world and this is what they spend their lives doing. It's unbelievable.
[31/12/2014, 3:03:20 PM] Peter Coffin: second that ssg
[31/12/2014, 3:03:32 PM] drinternetphd: "I went through them all and ctrl+f'd 'chelsea' and that was the only interestign one. Same girl also said she got chelsea hooked on orson scott card.
The last link has so many entries that I got bored with LJ's shitty setup. Can't be bothered to go through all his posts, but he is constantly whining about women.
It was fun but I don't think there is much else here other than building more of her character profile."
[31/12/2014, 3:03:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I know
[31/12/2014, 3:03:35 PM] drinternetphd: "it was fun".
[31/12/2014, 3:03:50 PM] drinternetphd: why don't they fucking drive to my dad's house and break the lock off my diary while they're at it
When the anons began discussing Chelsea's nudes, she couldn't take it anymore and said she didn't "wanna exist anymore." She asked the rat king if they could "monitor [her] shit." When the rat king tried to comfort her and told her that Gamergaters would be arrested, Chelsea said, "I will believe it when a judge doesn't just say the internet doesn't matter."
Chelsea seemed to have fucked off from the main chat at least, when she returned she bitched about TotalBiscuit, again.[31/12/2014, 3:07:08 PM] drinternetphd: if I leave my number can someone monitor my shit
[31/12/2014, 3:07:15 PM] drinternetphd: because they're dissecting how I look naked now
[31/12/2014, 3:07:17 PM] drinternetphd: and I just
[31/12/2014, 3:07:28 PM] drinternetphd: I don't wanna exist anymore
[31/12/2014, 3:07:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Please don't talk like that.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx):
[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] drinternetphd: I'm sorry. I am just really, really tired.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: And, more to the point, don't think like that.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I am speechless, very upset for you zoe.
[31/12/2014, 3:08:25 PM] drinternetphd: and this isn't going to end
[31/12/2014, 3:08:33 PM] drinternetphd: they're going to keep hurting everyone I ever loved
[31/12/2014, 3:08:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yes it will
[31/12/2014, 3:08:45 PM] drinternetphd: it's been five months
[31/12/2014, 3:08:52 PM] drinternetphd: it didn't end for kathy sierra and she vanished
[31/12/2014, 3:08:57 PM] drinternetphd: it hasn't even slowed down for anita
[31/12/2014, 3:09:11 PM] drinternetphd: they are always going to be hunting me
[31/12/2014, 3:09:22 PM] drinternetphd: most days I can deal with that
[31/12/2014, 3:09:25 PM] drinternetphd: today isn't one.
[31/12/2014, 3:09:37 PM] drinternetphd: I haven't figured out how to cope with them hurting my family
[31/12/2014, 3:09:39 PM] SF: Don't deal with it today. Leave it to us.
[31/12/2014, 3:10:15 PM] Peter Coffin: you absolutely don't deserve this, this is so wrong
[31/12/2014, 3:10:37 PM] SF: Just remember this isn't your fault. You know it isn't but I wanted to assert it out loud. What they do to anyone near you is absolutely no reflection on you or your worth.
[31/12/2014, 3:10:51 PM] SF: It's just terrorism and terrorism wouldn't exist if it wasn't good at its job.
[31/12/2014, 3:11:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: All I have to say is
[31/12/2014, 3:11:22 PM] Peter Coffin: agreed, this has nothing to do with you. the you they have invented is just that, an invention. you are you, and you know you. dont let them distort that
[31/12/2014, 3:11:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: The public image of these people is so absolutely deplorable I can't see them ever recruiting anyone new.
[31/12/2014, 3:11:49 PM] drinternetphd: that's cold comfort
[31/12/2014, 3:11:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Some of them are going to be arrested.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubt it.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: this is just my life now
[31/12/2014, 3:12:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Youtube video guy probably is. Randi's office visitor probably is.
[31/12/2014, 3:12:50 PM] Peter Coffin: youtube video guy?
[31/12/2014, 3:12:54 PM] Peter Coffin: OH
[31/12/2014, 3:12:57 PM] Randi Harper: Tesseract: i'm here
[31/12/2014, 3:13:06 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry, I keep forgetting that a person did that
[31/12/2014, 3:13:08 PM] drinternetphd: I will believe it when a judge doesn't just say the internet doesn't matter
[01/01/2015, 5:32:28 AM] drinternetphd: wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[01/01/2015, 5:32:29 AM] drinternetphd: http://gyazo.com/332d5729fe3fc1011d2d516cb0392556
[01/01/2015, 5:32:38 AM] drinternetphd: that's not vaguely threatening at all
[01/01/2015, 5:32:48 AM] SF: Yup, already put that on Trello.
[01/01/2015, 5:37:23 AM] drinternetphd: I mean that's kind of what he said to me early on too
[01/01/2015, 5:37:24 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550405309248716802
[01/01/2015, 5:37:33 AM] drinternetphd: I tried talking to him privately and it was fucking pointless
[01/01/2015, 5:37:46 AM] drinternetphd: he even brought up the patently moronic "personal paypal" argument
[01/01/2015, 5:49:55 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/87dd8075765e40450f11fd8ba149b8be.png
[01/01/2015, 5:49:59 AM] drinternetphd: maybe you could calm down
In things that totally happened, a five-year-old was told about Gamergate, comprehended what it was, and apologized to Chelsea for what was happening to her. Pedophile Nicholas "Sarah" Nyberg rubbed one out thinking about Chelsea and the kindergartener.
[02/01/2015, 2:43:13 AM] drinternetphd: Let's all move to mars
[02/01/2015, 2:43:16 AM] Remy: ^
[02/01/2015, 2:43:20 AM] Remy: I hear they have water there
[02/01/2015, 2:43:21 AM] Ian Cheong: im all for it
[02/01/2015, 2:43:23 AM] Ian Cheong: where do we sign up
[02/01/2015, 2:43:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey Zoe!
[02/01/2015, 2:43:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Happy New Year
[02/01/2015, 2:43:45 AM] Charloppe: as a white person I can confirm or shittyness
[02/01/2015, 2:43:55 AM] Remy: The fact that nobody laughed at my "stark side" pun tells me that I think it is WAAAAAY more funny than it actually is, tho
[02/01/2015, 2:43:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
[02/01/2015, 2:44:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I thought it was great
[02/01/2015, 2:44:06 AM] drinternetphd: Here. OH wait sorry that's my death note that has the names of all gamers in it. Sign on this one no way sorry that's my kill bill list hang on
[02/01/2015, 2:44:39 AM] Remy: I wonder if we shouldn't come up with a new name for that
[02/01/2015, 2:45:02 AM] Remy: But it's your list, so you're the boss on that call
[02/01/2015, 2:45:50 AM] drinternetphd: No idea. In other news a friends five year old daughter told me she was sorry for all the people being mean to me
[02/01/2015, 2:46:33 AM] drinternetphd: Her mom told me shed told her the tl;dr of the situation and said she thinks I am a superhero so cute overload
[02/01/2015, 2:46:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :3
[02/01/2015, 2:46:44 AM] drinternetphd: I gave her a bunny doll I won in japantown
[02/01/2015, 2:47:22 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that sounds adorable zoe
[02/01/2015, 2:47:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Haha, Zoe
[02/01/2015, 2:47:46 AM] drinternetphd: Yeah Sarah. She loves games too. It's nice to have a reminder of why I fight
[02/01/2015, 3:59:07 AM] drinternetphd: Also Alex is watching YouTube videos of people barfing with our friends adorable daughter
Randi Harper was freaked out by a tranny which calls himself Irene, which we have seen connected to the tranny rat kings. Randi supposedly met him in real life and was seriously wanting to unfollow him because he kept refering to himself in plural. Chelsea said maybe the guy was just a "multiple system person" as if that is a normal thing and not severe mental illness.
[02/01/2015, 3:56:27 AM] Randi Harper: THIS FREAKS ME OUT AND MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE
[02/01/2015, 3:56:27 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/ireneista/status/550742208773513216
[02/01/2015, 3:56:53 AM] Randi Harper: I met this person irl and I usually don't unfollow people I meet irl. I mean, she seemed nice enough. but referring to herself in plural just freaks me out so much.
[02/01/2015, 3:57:10 AM] Rob: Odd
[02/01/2015, 3:57:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hmm
[02/01/2015, 3:57:30 AM] Athena Hollow: is she maybe talking about herself and her partner?
[02/01/2015, 3:57:32 AM] Randi Harper: no.
[02/01/2015, 3:57:35 AM] Athena Hollow: welp
[02/01/2015, 3:57:35 AM] Rob: I use the pluralis majestatis if i’m being an asshole and making fun of myself, but that’s it
[02/01/2015, 3:57:39 AM] Randi Harper: she only talks about herself in plural.
[02/01/2015, 3:57:43 AM] Randi Harper: and she says 'mew' a lot.
[02/01/2015, 3:57:43 AM] Athena Hollow: O____________o
[02/01/2015, 3:58:08 AM] Athena Hollow: That's a helluva personality quirk lol
[02/01/2015, 3:58:22 AM] Randi Harper: I am kind of worried she's going to think that I unfollowed her because she's trans, because she's really sensitive to that kind of stuff. but it's not. I unfollowed her because she's friggin weird. the mew thing and the plural thing. I can't talk to that.
[02/01/2015, 3:58:28 AM] drinternetphd: Maybe she is a multiple system person
[02/01/2015, 3:58:36 AM] drinternetphd: Idk.
[02/01/2015, 3:58:41 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah
[02/01/2015, 3:58:50 AM] Dina : mewyeah
[02/01/2015, 3:58:53 AM] Ian Cheong: i was about to suggest that she might have headmates or something. is that okay to say?
[02/01/2015, 3:58:56 AM] Randi Harper:
The rat king really hated Julian Assange and wanted Chelsea to put him on her "Kill Bill" list, but she thought that would be "punching outside her weight class." The rest of the rat king was sperging about Bradley Manning and one of them wondered why Manning didn't go to Bernie Sanders first.
[02/01/2015, 4:08:04 AM] Rob: Assange basically runs it. He also tried to jump onto gamergate.
[02/01/2015, 4:08:19 AM] Ian Cheong: The man is a fucking egomaniac.
[02/01/2015, 4:08:29 AM] Remy: I'm so sad to see Chelsea's leak being turned into such a flimsy tool for an abuser
[02/01/2015, 4:08:31 AM] Rob: yep
[02/01/2015, 4:09:00 AM] Remy: Zoe, I would like you to consider adding Assange to the list
[02/01/2015, 4:09:07 AM] Remy: let's call him a "stretch goal"
[02/01/2015, 4:09:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
[02/01/2015, 4:09:19 AM] drinternetphd: Which list
[02/01/2015, 4:09:22 AM] Remy: KB
[02/01/2015, 4:09:42 AM] Athena Hollow: he's such a shit person :-/
[02/01/2015, 4:09:43 AM] drinternetphd: Kinda punching outside my weight class there
[02/01/2015, 4:09:47 AM] Remy: As in, the sooner his activities are pacified and he is rendered no longer dangerous, the better for society
[02/01/2015, 4:09:52 AM] Remy: Like I said, "stretch goal"
[02/01/2015, 4:10:04 AM] Remy: Nothing to worry about now, but I sense the future holds great things for us
[02/01/2015, 4:10:18 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Blegh, looks like Medium requires a twitter or facebook account. I'm gonna have to make a sockpuppet
[02/01/2015, 4:10:52 AM] Remy: Also, not that it's within my power at all, but I am for the rest of my life on the lookout for any opportunity to obtain a full presidential pardon for Chelsea Manning
[02/01/2015, 4:11:04 AM] Remy: So if anyone finds a political nominee who could make that happen, please inform me immediately
[02/01/2015, 4:12:03 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah no.,
[02/01/2015, 4:12:10 AM] Tesseract: probably not
[02/01/2015, 4:12:11 AM] Ian Cheong: that won't happen because they're all firmly a part of the institution
[02/01/2015, 4:12:28 AM] Ian Cheong: you can't be a presidential nominee and run against the NSA or the FBI
[02/01/2015, 4:12:32 AM] Rob: eh, I don’t agree w/ Chelsea releasing stuff she hadn’t read
[02/01/2015, 4:12:34 AM] Remy: I'm sorry, but I'm too stubborn to stop looking. It's on my To-Do list
[02/01/2015, 4:13:03 AM] Rob: and i’d have preferred her at least try to go to someone like Bernie sanders first
[02/01/2015, 4:13:22 AM] Ian Cheong: You know what's sad?
[02/01/2015, 4:13:27 AM] Ian Cheong: Chelsea's leak accomplished nothing.
[02/01/2015, 4:13:34 AM] Remy: yup
[02/01/2015, 4:13:34 AM] Ian Cheong: The system remains the system. Nothing has changed.
[02/01/2015, 4:13:55 AM] Ian Cheong: And wikileaks is nothing more than an organization built to prop up Assange's massive ego.
[02/01/2015, 4:14:03 AM] Rob: Mhm.
[02/01/2015, 4:14:18 AM] Athena Hollow: and shield him from rape charges as he flees countries with extradition policies.
[02/01/2015, 4:14:21 AM] Athena Hollow: fucking skeez.
A tweet from Brianna Wu was linked where Wu was chimping about Helen Lewis. Chelsea didn't know who that was and was upset that Lewis hadn't "apologized" for being 'transphobic.'
[02/01/2015, 5:38:47 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/550766814750588929
[02/01/2015, 5:38:52 AM] Athena Hollow: good post
[02/01/2015, 5:38:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): <3 you, Rob
[02/01/2015, 5:39:25 AM] Rob: <3 you too, izzy!
[02/01/2015, 5:39:26 AM] drinternetphd: who is helen lewis
[02/01/2015, 5:39:35 AM] Rob: Transphobic british feminist.
[02/01/2015, 5:39:45 AM] drinternetphd: oh she's transphobic?
[02/01/2015, 5:39:53 AM] Rob: Yeah she’s said a lot of transphobic stuff in the past
[02/01/2015, 5:40:01 AM] drinternetphd: has she apologized and knocked it off?
[02/01/2015, 5:40:03 AM] Rob: No
[02/01/2015, 5:40:05 AM] Athena Hollow: she's more 'willfully ignorant' than malicious, but she promotes malicious transphobes so there's that.
[02/01/2015, 5:40:07 AM] Rob: Not to my knowledge.
[02/01/2015, 5:40:09 AM] drinternetphd: oh :/
Chelsea had mentioned it previously, but she was supposed to be working on a "games as a punk movement" article for Boing Boing, and after bringing it up Chelsea said she wanted to transition into being a writer and "keep making weird free games."
[02/01/2015, 6:18:21 AM] drinternetphd: gonna say what I said back at gdc
[02/01/2015, 6:18:35 AM] drinternetphd: let's worry less about "feeding trolls" and more about "feeding our communities"
[02/01/2015, 6:18:54 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I tried to be postive over the past four months.
[02/01/2015, 6:19:05 AM] drinternetphd: no no I am not saying y'all have to be positive
[02/01/2015, 6:19:10 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh.
[02/01/2015, 6:19:15 AM] drinternetphd: I'm just thinking of how we can better take care of each other
[02/01/2015, 6:19:27 AM] Remy: <3
[02/01/2015, 6:19:29 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I feel like we need to do Skype dates.
[02/01/2015, 6:19:39 AM] drinternetphd: I'm working on this whole games as a punk movement article thing that I hope helps
[02/01/2015, 6:19:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Cool!
[02/01/2015, 6:19:46 AM] Remy: I like that
[02/01/2015, 6:19:48 AM] drinternetphd: still zeroing in on the angle I wanna take cause it's gonna have a big audience
[02/01/2015, 6:20:02 AM] Quinnae: Where is that going up, Zoe?
[02/01/2015, 6:20:04 AM] Remy: I totes dig that vibe
[02/01/2015, 6:20:34 AM] drinternetphd: keep it on the DL but boingboing
[02/01/2015, 6:20:40 AM] Quinnae: Nifty, grats!
[02/01/2015, 6:20:42 AM] drinternetphd: ty
[02/01/2015, 6:20:48 AM] drinternetphd: gonna start writing there I think?
[02/01/2015, 6:20:55 AM] Athena Hollow: sweet!
[02/01/2015, 6:21:11 AM] drinternetphd: I think ideally I'd like to transition into first and foremost a writer
[02/01/2015, 6:21:15 AM] drinternetphd: keep making weird free games
[02/01/2015, 6:21:18 AM] Remy: boingboing has been impressing me lately is that weird?
[02/01/2015, 6:21:22 AM] drinternetphd: ideally when shit settles down actually make this FMV game
[02/01/2015, 6:21:27 AM] Quinnae: And yeah, I agree with your sentiment there. I wanted to shift my focus away from engaging GG directly to engaging with the people they attack or who are afraid of them, and talking more about our work, passions, etc.
[02/01/2015, 6:21:33 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
[02/01/2015, 6:21:34 AM] Remy: omg Zoe we can be writer buddies <3
[02/01/2015, 6:21:43 AM] drinternetphd: yes~
[02/01/2015, 6:21:58 AM] Remy: There's an LGBT sci fi competition going down want the link?
[02/01/2015, 6:22:03 AM] Rob: OMG AN FMV GAME?!
[02/01/2015, 6:22:06 AM] Rob: I love fmv games <3 <3 <3
[02/01/2015, 6:22:06 AM] Tesseract: a what
[02/01/2015, 6:22:13 AM] drinternetphd: but yeah. working on framed + the last 5 months has shown me I have zero desire to work in this sphere in any traditional capacity.
[02/01/2015, 6:22:29 AM] drinternetphd: stephen: no thanks, gotta work on this pitch for the book first and foremost
[02/01/2015, 6:22:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: My goal this year is to write/finish my How to Write Sikh Characters guide. It is so ambitious, and I have to cover everything.
[02/01/2015, 6:23:04 AM] drinternetphd: that's awesome
[02/01/2015, 6:23:10 AM] drinternetphd: I really wanna see it when it's done
[02/01/2015, 6:23:12 AM] Quinnae: That sounds like a great project.
[02/01/2015, 6:23:20 AM] Quinnae: Mhmmm, I'd be happy to look it over and promote it.
That about does it for Main Chat log 8, we'll leave off with this tidbit from Main Chat 9 and finish up the last couple of logs later.
[02/01/2015, 10:14:34 AM] drinternetphd: Oh FFS they ddosed my friends comic
