Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[A Crying Goblin]

Don’t think anyone is frustrated or annoyed with you.

Maybe a tiny bit, but ultimately I think most people’s reactions are more like “Welp, I tried! It sucks that he won’t make some effort, but it’s his choice.”

People have given you a lot of different advice, and most of it, nay all of it, you shot down immediately.

No sweat if my back, but I think your life would be a lot smoother if you realized that there are things you can’t help, and things you CAN help. Some immediately. And some on the longer term.

Even if it’s something small like glasses.

You’re worried it makes you look meek and like a cuck/target?

Then get contacts short term, while you on a medium term work on your warped self esteem.

You're just broken, and allowed other people once to often talk or coerce you out of the thing you really wanted to do. Theres no sense listening to the advice of others to do things that you really don't enjoy in your heart of hearts.
Just figure out what you wanna do in life, double down on that, and let the rest happen by itself. Succeed, or at least let the consequences of your failure beat some appreciation for the little things into you. You probably already know what it is, you're just to scared to approach it.

I think both of you have said it pretty well, and done it justice. I think it's bad for my mental health to continue posting in this thread. I'd rather leave it on a melancholy, but somewhat hopefully note, rather then another Tard Rage. So that's probably going to be it for me here.

Thank you everyone. @Max Free @Fapcop @AgendaPoster @CoolFool @snov @Friend of Dorothy Parker @dick brain @CharcoalChkn @BPD Gunt Rider

And to anyone else I missed. You too.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I think both of you have said it pretty well, and done it justice. I think it's bad for my mental health to continue posting in this thread. I'd rather leave it on a melancholy, but somewhat hopefully note, rather then another Tard Rage. So that's probably going to be it for me here.

You'll be back!
Nobody that enters the Salon leaves alive.

 

[NoReturn]

Why do women like and waste so much money on it? A single vial costs as much as thrice the most expensive stuff on men's tiny section most expensive item. Jesus there is solar filter for fucking hair, what the fuck.

If a woman believes her greatest value lies in how she looks, then she'll do anything to preserve those looks.

Aldo why is tinture for women's hair cheaper than men's? Thrice as much for the same color.

Reverse-"Pink tax". They think you'll pay more to use the same product just because it's "for men" because using the women's version would be gay.
Other "blue tax" items:

• Dude wipes (No, they're not tougher/stronger, it's all marketing)
• Men's tissues
• "Men's Toothpaste" (why?)
• Power yogurt

Since we're on the topic: How do women justify painting a different face on your face?
Like, fine, it's intrasexual posturing, whatever; either way, how do you codify that as anything but deceit?

They see it as a skill.
I have no motivation to convince you that it is, because I don't agree with it myself, but you gotta be able to argue against your own opinions, and whether or not you see makeup as a valuable skill is where the premise of their argument lies.

And if you admit it's deceit, how do you reconcile that with your values? Are you just okay with being deceitful?

You're assuming that all women value not being deceitful over other elements, they don't.
Even then, women (and makeup influencer gayboys) who are really into makeup will say "It's not deceit. What you see on my face is an accurate reflection of my skills, knowledge, and artistic ability. It's just as much a part of me as my physical state. Why would you not value something I worked hard to learn and instead only value something I was born with?"

Same goes for filters, and half your clothes.

You mean like shapewear?

 

[斯尼 德之王]

Kiwi ladies, I look like this. Do I have a chance?

- Cape shit
- Anime shit
- Funko pops
- Anything coomer related
- Literal garbage

Video games don't turn you off? Guess we do live in the 21st century.

 

[FarmVille]

Since we're on the topic: How do women justify painting a different face on your face?

Like, fine, it's intrasexual posturing, whatever; either way, how do you codify that as anything but deceit?

And if you admit it's deceit, how do you reconcile that with your values? Are you just okay with being deceitful?

Same goes for filters, and half your clothes.

Every time I read a man’s opinion of cosmetics I’m reminded how many scrotes walk around with nose hairs like they tried to snort a porcupine. No deception detected.

 

[Johnny Salami]

Dude wipes

Power yogurt

I once saw a man yogurt that at least had more protein and less sugar then the regular yogurt. But then I saw that it was just Greek yogurt with added flavor. But it is funny how men will buy shit specifically aimed at them that they once deemed as gay. I've seen manly exfoliate and manly lotion

 

[dick brain]

Why would you not value something I worked hard to learn and instead only value something I was born with?"

I value hard work. I also value honesty. I'm sure it takes a lot of hard work and skill to be a good salesman or politician, but the willingness to put that work into cultivating the skill of being a salesman or politician of all things offsets the respect I feel for the hard work and skill.

You mean like shapewear?

I mean like high waisted tight jeans flatteringly tailored to be a mold of an attractive woman that you can squeeze your doughy ass and gunt into to hide what you actually look like and create the illusion that you look better than you do. Shit like that.

Every time I read a man’s opinion of cosmetics I’m reminded how many scrotes walk around with nose hairs like they tried to snort a porcupine. No deception detected.

Basic grooming ≠ painting a different face over your face. Imagine what you'd think of a man who wears makeup and tell me why you feel any differently when women do it.

 

[FarmVille]

Basic grooming ≠ painting a different face over your face. Imagine what you'd think of a man who wears makeup and tell me why you feel any differently when women do it.

I think most men would look a lot better if they knew how to apply complexion makeup

 

[AgendaPoster]

I think most men would look a lot better if they knew how to apply complexion makeup

You're a bitter lesbian, your opinions on male attractiveness are worth nothing.

 

[Susanna]

Basic grooming ≠ painting a different face over your face. Imagine what you'd think of a man who wears makeup and tell me why you feel any differently when women do it.

I think most men would look a lot better if they knew how to apply complexion makeup

I've put makeup on my man a few times. For example to make him look less awful for a speech he was going to hold.

Makeup isn't about painting a different face over your face, it's about helping your face look the best it can. You cover up negative aspects and direct attention to your best features. For the aforementioned speech, before I put makeup on him he looked like he hadn't slept for two weeks. After he looked like a film star.

Troons give makeup on men a bad name, because not only are they trying to paint themselves to look like something they're not, they're doing so ineptly. When you do it right it's as effective on a man as it is on us. I won't speak for anyone else, I know it's controversial, but a man using makeup is only a negative to me if he's bad at it.

 

[dick brain]

Makeup isn't about painting a different face over your face, it's about helping your face look the best it can.

This is what women have always said about this, and it's horseshit. Case in point:

You cover up negative aspects

How do you actually rationalize this? I'm not dunking, I want to know. What kind of mental gymnastics are you doing where concealing negative aspects isn't an act of deceit?

 

[Lady Bizness]

I dunno man, I just noticed there's a lot of super dumb bitches in my area that cake on the makeup and have clearly had a lot of work done, I'm talking tits, ass, and face. We know who paid for that because these women don't work unless you count their half-assed boss babe hustle or the home decor or beeswax candles store front their husband bought them to keep busy.

I sometimes interact with these women and feel like I'm talking to an alien, we look like different species and have completely different outlooks. My husband always feels sorry for their husbands and I don't get it. Did these men not choose to be with plastic women?

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Since we're on the topic: How do women justify painting a different face on your face?

Like, fine, it's intrasexual posturing, whatever; either way, how do you codify that as anything but deceit?

And if you admit it's deceit, how do you reconcile that with your values? Are you just okay with being deceitful?

Same goes for filters, and half your clothes.

I don't mostly because i didn't wanted to be with an idiot who thinks healthy human has green eyelida and deep red lips is natural and attractive

 

[ShiftyBoi]

I think most men would look a lot better if they knew how to apply complexion makeup

The guy equivalent to that is growing facial hair to hide your rapidly declining jawline.

 

[Chromeo]

I mean like high waisted tight jeans flatteringly tailored to be a mold of an attractive woman that you can squeeze your doughy ass and gunt into to hide what you actually look like and create the illusion that you look better than you do. Shit like that.

If you can't tell a fat girl is fat because she's wearing jeans, that's a you problem.

 

[dick brain]

If you can't tell a fat girl is fat because she's wearing jeans, that's a you problem.

I can tell when they're fat. I can even tell when they have no glutes and they've just poured their flabby ass cheeks into the equivalent of a pushup bra. The point is that regardless of whether or not they're effective, these practices are indicative of some underlying mindset that deems them okay, and I want to understand what that is. I guess I'm holding out hope that there's some angle that justifies it that isn't a red flag, because I don't like the implication that most of the women I meet are just cool with being dishonest.

Though if that's the case at least they advertise it in a way that I can recognize.

 

[440088]

I can tell when they're fat. I can even tell when they have no glutes and they've just poured their flabby ass cheeks into the equivalent of a pushup bra. The point is that regardless of whether or not they're effective, these practices are indicative of some underlying mindset that deems them okay, and I want to understand what that is. I guess I'm holding out hope that there's some angle that justifies it that isn't a red flag, because I don't like the implication that most of the women I meet are just cool with being dishonest.

Though if that's the case at least they advertise it in a way that I can recognize.

I’m not sure what you mean by dishonest?
Where in this hypothetical is the woman saying fat is healthy and good?
Just because a woman is fat doesn’t mean she can’t dress herself up.
Has society become so shit that unless you are leaving the house in dumpy, plain, ordinary outfits you are being a liar?

I just don’t understand the argument you are making. “They are being dishonest”

How? What statement are they making that is them being dishonest just by virtue of them dressing up? I would advise you to take similar pride in your appearance and try dressing up as well when going out in public.

 

[Waifu Days]

I don't think I'm entitled to honesty from strangers, whether they are male or female. In a dating situation honesty is earned and revealed slowly over time. People are too complex. I get that a lot of guy are visual in their attraction and see makeup and strategic clothing as a betrayal but that is based more on the man's expectations.

 

[440088]

I don't think I'm entitled to honesty from strangers, whether they are male or female. In a dating situation honesty is earned and revealed slowly over time. People are too complex. I get that a lot of guy are visual in their attraction and see makeup and strategic clothing as a betrayal but that is based more on the man's expectations.

I keep seeing this “because a woman is clean and well put together and dressed up” she is being some dishonest creature.

And it’s like bro. Not everybody wants to be a slob. People decades ago use to dress up all the way before leaving the house.

Makes me sad how comfortable we are for everybody to walk around like total slobs now. You go to the grocery store and people are just waltzing around in their pajamas and shit.

Has it really gotten to the point now that putting on nice fitting clothes that make you look better and some make up is a bad thing? Cause that’s what the implication sounds like

 

[Waifu Days]

Has it really gotten to the point now that putting on nice fitting clothes that make you look better and some make up is a bad thing? Cause that’s what the implication sounds like

I agree that people are too casual and sloppy these days and in order to cope, they make putting yourself together a crime. I would also say that people put too much investment on how other people look, especially if it's a strange you will never have any relationship to. If a man wears a hat to hide that they are going bald, it doesn't bother all that much. I certainly wouldn't use the term dishonest. I also wouldn't be annoyed if it were dishonest. That man owes me nothing and is dressing in a way based on personal preference.