How do you tell the difference between actual creeps and dudes who are awkward/inexperienced around women?

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Women have very strong creep detectors evolved from thousands of years of being raped so generally they can tell from a gut feeling or intuition if you're a weirdo.
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But women with strong creep detectors would get raped less frequently and have fewer children, therefore, natural selection dictates that women actually evolved to have weak creep detectors, hence why manipulation still works on them, you got it backwards.
 
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Women have good creep detectors if they grew up with decent parents as role models.

That’s why fatherless women end up like pic related.

Common sense says that fatherless women would learn from their mistakes. But it’s rarely that simple. Instead of dating a good guy they end up dating another kind of abuser. Like instead of a sociopath they end up with a BPD male. In layman’s terms, they leave an asshole and end up with a loser.

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IME/FMO/FWIH/AFAIK/ETC, there often isn't a difference when it comes to quiet guys. In a nutshell, he's likely afraid of you finding out what's going on in his head because he already knows that the shit in there is unacceptable. If he's incapable of thinking about the conversation topic at hand, it's because he's too distracted by thinking creepy shit about you. Being pity friends with this guy, trying to help him out of his shell or sharing some kind of hobby space with him will not end well. Why anyone would date someone like that is beyond me, aside from 'I cAn FiX hIm' syndrome.

Look out for boundary testing. Does he try to bring up topics ambiguously as to give himself deniability of his interests and values just in case you react negatively to them? Does he only ever tell you his supposed interests or values after you've expressed approval for them? At a later stage, did you "accidentally" see him in a state of undress or "accidentally" see some of his coomer shit? Does he "accidentally" touch you, either repeatedly or in inappropriate places/ways? Does he get touchy and just tell you that that's how he is when you react negatively? He's treating you like you're an NPC in a dating sim that he needs to figure out so that he can avoid the wrong interactions with you that might lower your attraction meter or whatever the fuck the weebs call that shit. He's manipulating you by trying to keep you from getting to know what he's really like as he learns to pretend to be someone he thinks you'd be attracted to, just to try to get into your pants. Run fast and far. Boundary testing behavior applies to everyone, not just dudes and not just those after sex, but the PUA types and creeps in general usually rely on this type of manipulation very heavily.
 
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smile.jpg said:
But women with strong creep detectors would get raped less frequently and have fewer children, therefore, natural selection dictates that women actually evolved to have weak creep detectors, hence why manipulation still works on them, you got it backwards.
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This is retarded on whole another level. Humans evolved to have a partner for a reason and also women kill their kids because we have built in assessment wheither or not we can keep the child this is why PPD exist when that mechanism gets batshit. We have been infaticiding rapist babies since neanderthals because we need partner to provide extra resources for that child and even then they aren't enough. Mom without a partner is extra vulnerable and so is that rapist baby . No resources= dead or malnourished soon to be dead rapist baby

As a Person who ends up dating inexperienced shy akward men for some fucking reason they are worlds apart from the pua and incels types firstly akward men are akward they blush when you flirt with them they won't straight up hit on you. Incels there is a level of bitterness and resentment that seeps through when you talk to them and puas just flirts with you and can keep eye contact without internally dying. There .
 
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Nonconsentual Pronouns said:
IME/FMO/FWIH/AFAIK/ETC, there often isn't a difference when it comes to quiet guys. In a nutshell, he's likely afraid of you finding out what's going on in his head because he already knows that the shit in there is unacceptable.
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This is true, I do not want my potential gf to find that Im on a "cyberterrorist" forum saying troons and niggers. I am scared of that happening yes.
 
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Johnny Salami said:
W*men will literally call an autist a creep then get killed by their drug dealer boyfriend
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These are just violent psychopaths, not something I'd consider a creep. A good example of a creep would be Brock Turner.

We actually do have good creep detectors but I think it takes a certain level of self confidence and emotional maturity to not ignore them. Women sometimes don't trust their inner gut /intuition because these warnings are not rational. But what's happening is that our subconscious is picking up on certain red flags and it's a pattern recognition, all of that is possibly stored in our long term evolutionary memory.

So when Ted Bundy approaches you in a dark parking lot asking you to help him carry some books to his car , you'll have two voices talking to you. One will be warning you about something with his facial expression, mannerism and tone of voice being off. The other will say: oh but he's handsome, well dressed, looks like he studies law etc. Then we have to make a choice. And yeah I'd probably go with Bundy cos he was hot.
 
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RussianBlonde said:
So when Ted Bundy approaches you in a dark parking lot asking you to help him carry some books to his car , you'll have two voices talking to you. One will be warning you about something with his facial expression, mannerism and tone of voice being off. The other will say: oh but he's handsome, well dressed, looks like he studies law etc. Then we have to make a choice. And yeah I'd probably go with Bundy cos he was hot.
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"All those women that got murdered by their drug dealing boyfriends knew they were bad news. Trust me bro."

I really wish I didn't hate w*men (:_(
 
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AgendaPoster said:
Such behavior is below the dignity of any self-respecting male and you won't see it unless you're dealing with some mentally ill autist.
Also, women randomly offering sex is not a thing unless they are terminally deathfats or have serious other issues.
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The one time a random woman approached me on the street and tried to pick me up I instantly turned her down because it just felt suspicious on an instinctive level. She wasn't bad looking either, but it just felt so immediately unnatural that "no" was the only conceivable answer. Though the sort of hypothetical this thread seems to be about would make more sense if it involved people who were already acquainted on some level and that gets more murky. I'm very cynical in general though, so if I get the impression that something sounds too good to be true I'll nope out before anything can happen. Besides that, I don't know if it's like this for every man, but to me casual sex with women I didn't care about (who probably felt the same way about me) only left me with a sense of emptiness after the cheap thrills and initial high of getting off wore thin.

tl;dr: sex just for the sake of sex isn't good for you in the long run
 
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MasterBaiter said:
This is retarded on whole another level. Humans evolved to have a partner for a reason and also women kill their kids because we have built in assessment wheither or not we can keep the child this is why PPD exist when that mechanism gets batshit. We have been infaticiding rapist babies since neanderthals because we need partner to provide extra resources for that child and even then they aren't enough. Mom without a partner is extra vulnerable and so is that rapist baby . No resources= dead or malnourished soon to be dead rapist baby

As a Person who ends up dating inexperienced shy akward men for some fucking reason they are worlds apart from the pua and incels types firstly akward men are akward they blush when you flirt with them they won't straight up hit on you. Incels there is a level of bitterness and resentment that seeps through when you talk to them and puas just flirts with you and can keep eye contact without internally dying. There .
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If women are so good at detecting creeps, explain how there are still creeps who manage to reproduce.
 
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smile.jpg said:
If women are so good at detecting creeps, explain how there are still creeps who manage to reproduce.
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We were talking about evolutionary advantages or disadvantages of raping not about consensual relationships bud . Sorry if i make it sound different in my post .
 
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