Chris goes to Animate! Raleigh convention

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Is the ‘kicked out for livestreaming’ rumour just complete bullshit? There’s no evidence for it, when it should be readily available. I guess the notion that he was paid to be there would come from Caden paying for him to attend (???), but what the hell is he getting out of all this?

Does the pseudopooner really think the Transformers-tism and five-part script reading shit is just great content? Chris is a sideshow attraction, not a ‘content creator.’ It makes me wonder if Flutter really does work for Praetor in any capacity, because her wrangling seems to prevent his most lucrative feature: tard rage.
Hell, the livestreams seemed to have stopped especially since she came back, and those made a lot of money from constant ween donations.

The thing is, Praetor doesn't wanna profit off of Chris' tard rage and mom fucking, but instead more of Sonichu and his persona. They do not support such action and while it gave Chris fame, they aren't there for it.

 

[FinnSven]

Is the ‘kicked out for livestreaming’ rumour just complete bullshit? There’s no evidence for it, when it should be readily available. I guess the notion that he was paid to be there would come from Caden paying for him to attend (???), but what the hell is he getting out of all this?

Does the pseudopooner really think the Transformers-tism and five-part script reading shit is just great content? Chris is a sideshow attraction, not a ‘content creator.’ It makes me wonder if Flutter really does work for Praetor in any capacity, because her wrangling seems to prevent his most lucrative feature: tard rage.
Hell, the livestreams seemed to have stopped especially since she came back, and those made a lot of money from constant ween donations.

This is my overall point.

If Flutter is a paid Chris assistant, on Praetors behalf, she is very shit at her job.

If she was a state provided tard wrangler, she would not be going for meals with him, he wouldn’t be meeting her at the airport, it’s clearly not an official or professional relationship in that way.

So if Praetor are paying her, that would have to be a serious payment, at least a full time job monthly salary, so to cover that then she would have to be getting Chris to do something to bring in advertising revenue, sponsors or ween donations.

So in the spirit of Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is that she is some sort of organically occurring gal pal or girlfriend of Chris.

I know “everyone ” is wanting there to be more to it, or they can’t believe that someone would willingly associate with Chris in this way but, people are strange.

The thing is, Praetor doesn't wanna profit off of Chris' tard rage and mom fucking, but instead more of Sonichu and his persona. They do not support such action and while it gave Chris fame, they aren't there for it.

How much of an earner could that possibly be?

I doubt it would justify paying a full time handler.

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

The thing is, she most likely IS being paid full time.
Praetor earns enough money from that, and the previous Praetor members lived off of it.
Plus, yeah, weens pay a shit ton to them. A single Chris Chan livestream earns aroud $600-700

 

[FinnSven]

The thing is, she most likely IS being paid full time.
Praetor earns enough money from that, and the previous Praetor members lived off of it.
Plus, yeah, weens pay a shit ton to them. A single Chris Chan livestream earns aroud $600-700

Ok. When did he last do one?

According to his own channel, CwcvilleGuardian, as of this post he last live streamed 2 weeks ago.

Between two months ago and today he live streamed 8 times.

8 * 700 dollars = 5600 dollars.

So paying themselves, taxes, property charges and a full time tard wrangler on just under 6 grand, for two months?

Sorry, this seems like a fucking hell of a lot of work and hassle for not particularly much money.

I strongly doubt they are paying for another person to just be there from those numbers.

 

[King Kiwi]

The thing is, she most likely IS being paid full time.
Praetor earns enough money from that, and the previous Praetor members lived off of it.
Plus, yeah, weens pay a shit ton to them. A single Chris Chan livestream earns aroud $600-700

I agree with you. She seems to have the air of hired help about her anyways, whatever else Chris might think.

Why work at Food Lion when you can be an ogre tamer?

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Ok. When did he last do one?

According to his own channel, CwcvilleGuardian, as of this post he last live streamed 2 weeks ago.

Between two months ago and today he live streamed 8 times.

8 * 700 dollars = 5600 dollars.

So paying themselves, taxes, property charges and a full time tard wrangler on just under 6 grand, for two months?

Sorry, this seems like a fucking hell of a lot of work and hassle for not particularly much money.

I strongly doubt they are paying for another person to just be there from those numbers.

They get more from OfficialCWCMart too.
Plus, keep in mind that Caden has several businesses of his own, and Chris can pretty much live off of his tugboat.

 

[FinnSven]

They get more from OfficialCWCMart too.
Plus, keep in mind that Caden has several businesses of his own, and Chris can pretty much live off of his tugboat.

Ok.

Still doesn’t convince me that flutter is a paid employee though.

If Caden is running Chris as a business/product, it will be at a loss.

 

[Cybertonia]

Is the ‘kicked out for livestreaming’ rumour just complete bullshit? There’s no evidence for it, when it should be readily available. I guess the notion that he was paid to be there would come from Caden paying for him to attend (???), but what the hell is he getting out of all this?

I think the better explanation for Chris being kicked out is that the world of con organizers is small, and every con organizer in the world knows who Chris is and they probably decided they don't have the budget for security that they would need to deal with the horde of idiots that Chris inevitably attracts.

Some people just wanna have cons without D-list internet celebrities showing up and derailing things. Especially someone like Chris who has a history of claiming to be a VIP when he always has a general admission ticket to these things. Then we can also get into Chris's well documented history of getting handsy and inappropriate with con guests. If I knew he had a ticket to my con I'd refund that shit and ban him from the venue as quick as I can.

Chris has that autist belief system that everything happens completely in a vacuum and con organizers don't have memories or talk to each other. He thinks that you can just go to other cons (or pretty much any place in public, in general) and it's like pressing reset on a Playstation and whatever you did at the last con is just magically forgotten and never happened.

 

[AnOminous]

Chris is a sideshow attraction, not a ‘content creator.’

Tax-wise it could be pretty bad for Chris to be seen as a "content creator." If he's a mendicant freak given free money for begging, he wouldn't have tax liability until it hit a certain level. If he's "earning" the money, it can become taxable a lot more easily. And unlike other creditors, the IRS can levy on Social Security benefits, including on disability, up to 15%.

Some people just wanna have cons without D-list internet celebrities showing up and derailing things. Especially someone like Chris who has a history of claiming to be a VIP when he always has a general admission ticket to these things.

Allegedly he and Flutter bought 3 day VIP tickets. Not the same as being an actual VIP, but still more than general admission.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Tax-wise it could be pretty bad for Chris to be seen as a "content creator." If he's a mendicant freak given free money for begging, he wouldn't have tax liability until it hit a certain level. If he's "earning" the money, it can become taxable a lot more easily. And unlike other creditors, the IRS can levy on Social Security benefits, including on disability, up to 15%.

You know what I wonder if Caden is doing something funkey about Tax and his earnings off the back of Chris getting a discount on the Tax etc by claiming some religious exemption.

 

[AnOminous]

You know what I wonder if Caden is doing something funkey about Tax and his earnings off the back of Chris getting a discount on the Tax etc by claiming some religious exemption.

You can't do that without forming some kind of 501(c)(3). Just making schizo claims of being Jesus doesn't cut it.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

She didn't keep him from tarding out and getting thrown out of the convention, and didn't even get any usable content out of it.

I think the only reason he didn't have a screaming meltdown and hauled bodily out of the convention was because she was there to keep him in line. Another interesting thing is how Chris didn't put up some social media post about the convention being unfair, or how the trolls got him again, which makes me think she's acting as some sort of person that can get him to calm down.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I think the only reason he didn't have a screaming meltdown and hauled bodily out of the convention was because she was there to keep him in line. Another interesting thing is how Chris didn't put up some social media post about the convention being unfair, or how the trolls got him again, which makes me think she's acting as some sort of person that can get him to calm down.

Fucking hell, Chris has an emotional support cabbage!

 

[Zeus Blue Thunder]

Especially someone like Chris who has a history of claiming to be a VIP when he always has a general admission ticket to these things.

This time he was genuinely a VIP. Same with Flutter.
$550 well spent, especially since it's likely from what I have learnt from the event goers that he was only at the con for 4 hours.

 

[Norman B. Normal]

Flutter is an absolute ninja. If every lolcow had opsec like hers this site would have withered and died by around 2017.

 

[FinnSven]

Flutter is an absolute ninja. If every lolcow had opsec like hers this site would have withered and died by around 2017.

She probably isn’t a lolcow for that reason however.

Lolcows don’t just lack opsec, but someone aware of opsec is certainly going to avoid behaving in any way that is embarrassing.

If she has some shameful tastes or hobbies, then she probably has the good sense to keep them private.

Apart from appearing to like Chris personally. But to her credit, she has managed to be incredibly private considering the circumstances.

 

[Mariposa2.0 LTE]

Tax-wise it could be pretty bad for Chris to be seen as a "content creator." If he's a mendicant freak given free money for begging, he wouldn't have tax liability until it hit a certain level. If he's "earning" the money, it can become taxable a lot more easily. And unlike other creditors, the IRS can levy on Social Security benefits, including on disability, up to 15%.

Allegedly he and Flutter bought 3 day VIP tickets. Not the same as being an actual VIP, but still more than general admission.

agree
actual VIPs probably get paid

 

[sadrefrigerator]

If Flutter is a paid Chris assistant, on Praetors behalf, she is very shit at her job.

I see Flutter's job as keeping Chris out of too much trouble. Which means keeping him out of jail and doing his best to not get banned from any more cons. Shes hired to prevent hedgehog defense.
I think Caden wants to make boring content like vlogs. Chris will always have his renown from the past.

So if Praetor are paying her, that would have to be a serious payment, at least a full time job monthly salary, so to cover that then she would have to be getting Chris to do something to bring in advertising revenue, sponsors or ween donations.

Why? Theres no evidence this is a full time job, or that shes with him for the majority of every day. Theres definitely some money to go around from the etsy and streams. Caden has enough money to house Chris and pay for his living expenses. The etsy shop seems to move product. Theres plenty of new reviews, so they are definitely selling a lot of medallions.

So in the spirit of Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is that she is some sort of organically occurring gal pal or girlfriend of Chris.

When has there ever been an organic gal pal or girlfriend?

 

[GenociderSyo]

Some are asking if Flutter is a helper in some way why she is doing some things. The place that is brought up using peer support that means untrained tard wranglers that also have mental illnesses. You become a peer supporter by taking a 60 hour course and can make minimum wage. Many times these jobs are set up to be done in a way that SSI/SSDI can be kept while working.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Some are asking if Flutter is a helper in some way why she is doing some things. The place that is brought up using peer support that means untrained tard wranglers that also have mental illnesses. You become a peer supporter by taking a 60 hour course and can make minimum wage. Many times these jobs are set up to be done in a way that SSI/SSDI can be kept while working.

While that sounds plausible, the level of OpSec that Flutter is displaying is way beyond what would be expected of somebody not fully aware of who Chris is to the greater online community. And I doubt she's somebody who happened to fall into Chris's orbit and then subsequently brought on by Caden.

Chris did say he met Flutter around the time he got out of jail, which as we know now, Caden had a fuckload of things already prepared for Chris - a home, a bunch of Transformers figures (some of which ended up going to Toys for Tots and I backdated their street dates to being impossible for Chris to have acquired during his jail stay), a motor vehicle, it's entirely reasonable that Caden had Flutter set up as a handler simultaneously.