US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Uranus Pink]

It would be easier to ban or restrict the transport of goods over long distances. Probably by forcing transport companies to switch to electric trucks then not provide enough power to run them. Then everything has to be made locally with resources on hand.

Won't work as those underpowered electric trucks will inevitably be seen as the weak link to keeping the bughives fed, watered, and entertained.

 

[Betonhaus]

Won't work as those underpowered electric trucks will inevitably be seen as the weak link to keeping the bughives fed, watered, and entertained.

then blockade the bughives until they drop to manageable population levels.

Rome collapsed when the supply chains failed, as it was reliant on goods brought from the far corners of the roman empire. Right now our supply chains have nearly everything we use be made by chinks on the other side of the world. if we didn't have that and were forced to make our own goods we would have many more jobs and the soyboys would be men

 

[Long Tongue Silver]

Dear feeder suggested on Twitter what they're doing is using DEI to prop up shit work and destroy the West while bringing in infinite ethics so we have a nice balkanization incident across ethnic lines (even if they have to import ethnics to do it) instead of a US Civil War where the US survives intact. I wonder what happens if they get a chance to replace us all with very, very stupid chatbots before then.

I swear TPTB are trying for a re-do of Red Summer except illegals as the targets. Anything to solidify the police state and justify a total and complete crackdown on normal Americans.

 

[northstar747]

then blockade the bughives until they drop to manageable population levels.

Rome collapsed when the supply chains failed, as it was reliant on goods brought from the far corners of the roman empire. Right now our supply chains have nearly everything we use be made by chinks on the other side of the world. if we didn't have that and were forced to make our own goods we would have many more jobs and the soyboys would be men

Again I love roman as much as the next guy but north america cant really be compared to western europe and the roman empire.

The founding fathers were fucking educated on the classics and washington played at being a mondern day cincinnatus. But comparing the modern world to the world of antiquity doesnt really fly.

If you look at ameica like a game of civ, its a fucking over powered starting point.

1) First off the largest of arable land, the midwest/great plains. Bonus this land gets a winter so you have nice nitrogen cycle and pest control

2) This over laps with having 25000 MILES of Navigable water ways that over lap this food production. transporting the food thats grown along with a shit of other goods.

3) Energy oil reserves and shale production

4) borders okay now I know you kiwis will start crying "we have the hoards crossing the southern boarder they are the modern day vandals and visigothes!" um no.....we dont have germanic trips in canada or carthaginians in mexico to the south.

in terms of any real military threat out enemies would have to cross an ocean to get here in terms of security america is a fortress!

I will give you that hollywood is like a modern day Athens filled with degenerate homosexual greeks and their love of art.

The other things that differs america from the roman empire is that while alot of cracks are shone the founding fathers were very good a covering for known problems, like the splitting of powers, making the president head of the military so no junta etc.

In fact alot of what we bitch about here are really just self inflicted wounds.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

then blockade the bughives until they drop to manageable population levels.

Rome collapsed when the supply chains failed, as it was reliant on goods brought from the far corners of the roman empire. Right now our supply chains have nearly everything we use be made by chinks on the other side of the world. if we didn't have that and were forced to make our own goods we would have many more jobs and the soyboys would be men

The Roman Empire collapsed because they had an influx of massive groups of illegal immigrants who didn't assimilate, and no constitutional succession so they were busy infighting while the elites jerked off on their massive estates while avoiding taxes causing the government to not be able to maintain the infrastructure.

If you're talking the city itself, there is compelling evidence that it largely recovered from the sacks of 410, 455, and 472, and there was no meaningful change in the quality of everyday life or condition of the buildings between 475 and 535 when Justinian's reconquista war with the Goths wrecked it over the next 20 years.

 

[northstar747]

The Roman Empire collapsed because they had an influx of massive groups of illegal immigrants who didn't assimilate, and no constitutional succession so they were busy infighting while the elites jerked off on their massive estates while avoiding taxes causing the government to not be able to maintain the infrastructure.

Alittle off there.

What made rome stand out from other groups of antiquity is they created they idea one could become "roman" or latin. IIRC in the early republic period a group of bastards sired from roman soliders fighting in now whats spain petitioned the sentate they they were with out a group and the status of latin was given to them.

In the imperal era if you wanted to become a a roman citizen and remember citizens were not the majority (slaves, freemen, greeks, jews etc) It was an active choice to pursue citizenship with its advantages,

Your right though the constant wars of succession and other causes destabilized shit.

Not really relevant to USA, the closet two groups I can think of that would try to have their own culture and rival the goverment would be the LDS groups or the jews, they dont do it....muslim have the desire but you d have to concentrate them in a area....hmm which I guess is doable but it would be eaiser for them to just take of the local goverment of a small town and then declair indepence....which is still a far cry from sacking washington DC

 

[The Nothingness]

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Does the general public even know the US Capitol was breached on October 18th by pro-Palestinian insurrectionists?

 

[The Last Stand]

Does the general public even know the US Capitol was breached on October 18th by pro-Palestinian insurrectionists?

What do you think? Here's another question. Ask somebody and see if they care or not.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

with AI there is a 90:10 rule that is true from self-driving cars to image generators to document generators: 90% of the work it handles perfectly, but 10% it will never handle alone.

Tesla was super confident they would have fully self-driving cars years ago, only to basically give up because there are some situations the AI just can't handle - and mistakes while driving can lead to accidents and death.

It's possible to automate 90% of work easily enough, but the last 10% you will always need an expert at the wheel. Companies will try to automate - but in doing so will realize they need to fire all of their low cost workers and replace them with high skilled ones.

To me the biggest problem with AI is that it does a lot of things as competently as a good intern, and faster.

It doesn't do anything as well as an experienced worker. Nada. Zilch. And for reasons people have clearly articulated here, that will continue for the foreseeable.

But it'd be an obvious time savings for me to replace any random intern with AI. All well and good...except in 5, 10 years, where do I get the experienced people from? If AI is as good at doing something as someone with <1 year of experience, and people stop hiring entry level people because the AI is more performant, then where do people go from zero experience to having enough experience to outshine the AI?

We're looking at a crisis 10 years down the line when the entry-level people who could not get decent jobs and had to settle for garbage tier unskilled service wagie stuff will have been the people we needed to educate in order to be in charge of teams and offering experienced leadership.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

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yeah I'm sure tagging the FBI like a snitch and saying "imagine if the roles were reversed" is gonna work out great this time.

 

[dustbuster]

And? Let it burn. Once the ashes cool there will be jobs for everyone left.

Oh look a commie applying broken window fallacy.
Imagine my shock.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

Solutions for this such problem I have read about is offering some kind of universal basic income (UBI) but realistically speaking maybe that would create a new digital serfdom where the people who have all the power would be the ones who oversee and control the automated systems accompanied by those who know how to code, program or repair them. Everyone else would be in some kind of underclass dependent on the government and those in power.

Another idea could be the government incentivizing companies to create jobs that are specifically for humans and them only but would be ultimately useless positions in reality for the most part. It would be a similar situation to the observations some have made about the current job market but more extreme. I'd say this is perhaps more realistic then the other idea since in this scenario the government and the country itself wouldn't have to directly foot the bill entirely.

Option 1 is unrealistic. In current year, governments don't do things for people, they do things to people. They very easily take things away, but gaining something of value from it is nearly impossible and is almost never done. Some type of dividend, even if implemented, would never be nearly enough because that would become the new baseline (I'm an autistic retard and need an actual economist to fact check my spergery).

Nights like tonight show why they refuse to put Trump on TV now. He connects with the audience in the room and has them eating out of his hand every time. He HAS to be portrayed as the nasty unbalanced megalomaniac, they can't let him be seen as the brash fun guy

I actually missed the debate. Before I go watch it, was it the uniparty dog and pony show I thought it was going to be? Seriously, Trump isn't stupid. All he had to do to beat half a dozen stooges in black suits boiled down to not showing up, even if he was invited.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Trump was photogenic and making the point for as much as they say he caused chaos, there was peace and prosperity with him. He also politely said you can’t be super anti abortion and expect to win elections to make actual change.


Nimrod and Meatball were bitching about absolutely meaningless stuff in the grand scheme of things, I don’t give a fuck about South Carolinas unemployment and Desantislies.com and Meatball was one degree away from saying he supports Fag Smith in DC. CNN also made the lighting look weird so Meatball had narrow eyes with pale skin and Nimrod looked like a witch.

 

[Spud]

governments don't do things for people

What do you mean? The Government rewards it's friends and punishes it's enemies and it's done that exceptionally all things considered.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

am I actually supposed to believe that Ninrom qualified but vivek didn't? I dont' believe that at all. They must not have wanted anymore epic clips because without vivek making these guys look like idiots I had no reason to have the last debate on my radar.

 

[dustbuster]

A complaint has just been filed by the people of Colorado against Jenna Ellis, who has flipped to be one of Fani Willis’s witnesses against President Trump in Fulton County, Georgia. If you recall, Ellis scammed and stole $220,000 in donations from Trump supporters with the promise that she would fight her indictment, but instead, she is now working with Fani Willis to take Trump down. Jenna Ellis is now Facing disbarment, amongst other things as has been laid out in this new complaint. The complaint accuses Ellis of violating rules that prohibit attorneys from being convicted of felonies, committing crimes, “engaging in professional conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation” and aiding and abetting false statements.

I cannot stress this enough: never cooperate with a show trial.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

What do you mean? The Government rewards it's friends and punishes it's enemies and it's done that exceptionally all things considered.

What I mean depends entirely on who is the friend and who is the enemy. If you're a friend, they'll bend over backwards to suck you off. If you're the enemy, they'll be sure to tell you how much money you owe to pay off the friends before passing laws designed to fuck you.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Alittle off there.

What made rome stand out from other groups of antiquity is they created they idea one could become "roman" or latin. IIRC in the early republic period a group of bastards sired from roman soliders fighting in now whats spain petitioned the sentate they they were with out a group and the status of latin was given to them.

In the imperal era if you wanted to become a a roman citizen and remember citizens were not the majority (slaves, freemen, greeks, jews etc) It was an active choice to pursue citizenship with its advantages,

Your right though the constant wars of succession and other causes destabilized shit.

Not really, and the parallel between Rome and us is relevant here. Legal, controlled immigration with assimilation is what occured in the early Roman Empire. Same as the US with quotas and Trump's "big beautiful door" in his wall. You can argue the finer points of Hart-Cellar but that doesn't hold a candle to the millions streaming in unchecked.

And for the Romans, controlled immigration and conquest was completely different from 4th and 5th century waves of Germans coming in as tribal units en masse after being pushed by the Huns. They didn't assimilate, they had their own laws and society. And they destabilized the government.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

am I actually supposed to believe that Ninrom qualified but vivek didn't? I dont' believe that at all. They must not have wanted anymore epic clips because without vivek making these guys look like idiots I had no reason to have the last debate on my radar.

They rigged the numbers and changed the rules to keep the Hound of Hyderabrad out of it, same shit that was done in 2012 to remove Ron Paul.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

They rigged the numbers and changed the rules to keep the Hound of Hyderabrad out of it, same shit that was done in 2012 to remove Ron Paul.

not shocked hayley's numbers must be even worse than Christie's letting on on the hot mic. Sad to see.