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There is almost a 100% chance that you reading this would agree that women should be allowed to remove trannies from their bathrooms. So, you already conceptually understand the idea of a women's space. It is hypocritical to accept that and not this.

Effectively, there is zero place on the Internet for the specific demographic of women who want,

  • to complain about men and troons (reddit will allow the former but never the latter),
  • to complain about men of different cultures and races (lolcow farm will ban for 'racism'),
  • to complain about men, troons, and different races without men and trannies shitting it up (i.e. on 4chan it would be flooded with gore).
That means it's either here or nowhere, and I am sympathetic to all shitposters without homes.

Please stop being big fat gay babies. Thanks.
Null conveniently ignored the existence of Crystal Cafe here. Crystal Cafe allows whamen to bitch about both troons and moids as much as they want and it's a femoid only website in the same way as wizardchan.
 
Better a woman with a body count who treats you like a king than a virgin that'll cheat. More to life than body count, although excessive numbers are a red flag, but even modern virgins can have the mindset of a whore.
Just remember that, statistically, the lower the body count the higher the percentage that she'll stay faithful in marriage. Not that you have any way of knowing her true count because they're never ever honest about it. Add five to anything higher than zero. She won't count BJs and she won't count guys they hooked up with as a rebound. And if it happened when she was drunk she won't count that either.
Fuck it. Add twelve.

You shouldn't ask a girl what her count is anyway. You should be able to get a rough estimate based on other information about her life.
 
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I'll defend women on this. It's a completely unconscious process for them. They don't control that. Women are creatures of emotion and change. They feel things men just flat out don't. It's not that they don't want you to open up, it's just that once you do, their image of you is shattered and they lose respect for you. It's not like they sit there expecting that to happen though. They honestly want you to. They just wake up the next day thinking something is wrong and they don't know what. It's a completely instinctual response.
True, I just wish that women would be more introspective, maybe that's not in their nature, but this thread is mostly about mocking women's natural tendencies. What bothers me above all else is women have the audacity to wonder why men seek other men for advice on women.
 
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That's bullshit. There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. You know why men don't talk about their feelings? BECAUSE WOMEN FUCKING DUMP THEM WHEN THEY DO. We learned that over hundreds of years of evolution that if we talk about our feelings to women, they will leave us. It doesn't matter if they ask us to. They have an instinctual response to witnessing vulnerability in their male partner. Usually it's with repulsion. Women find vulnerable men FUCKING REPULSIVE.
The only person a man can truly open up to is a close male friend. That's all we have. You open up to a woman about vulnerable issues and she'll throw that shit back in your face during a fight a year later.
 
That's bullshit. There is no such thing as toxic masculinity. You know why men don't talk about their feelings? BECAUSE WOMEN FUCKING DUMP THEM WHEN THEY DO. We learned that over hundreds of years of evolution that if we talk about our feelings to women, they will leave us. It doesn't matter if they ask us to. They have an instinctual response to witnessing vulnerability in their male partner. Usually it's with repulsion. Women find vulnerable men FUCKING REPULSIVE.
That's not the point I was making though.
This is exactly right. It's also why historically there was no expectation that one's spouse would be a friend or source of emotional support in the way we think of those things today. And why male organizations and true platonic friends are so important.
This is more on par with it. That men trying to disrupt the process of male bonding via concern trolling to deflect any criticism against women is probably a good example of toxic masculinity. That "good guy" shit where you have to interrupt a guy and harp about misogyny and incels when he's just trying to talk about his problems with the boys.
Then my response to that is, "I do lack empathy. And I will feel none when you die of a heart attack on your fourth booster. I don't say that because I don't believe the shot works or believe any theory around it, I just hope they're right so you and people like you die from it. You can't chastise people and say they lack empathy in the same sentence. I won't sit here and let you assert moral superiority. I'm not playing your word game."
It's easier to say nothing. But my go-to whenever they say "My aunt died because unvaccinated people" is "Who the fuck cares about your dumb aunt?".
Better a woman with a body count who treats you like a king than a virgin that'll cheat. More to life than body count, although excessive numbers are a red flag, but even modern virgins can have the mindset of a whore.
It all seems to boil down to timing in my experience. If someone settles down before they're mentally prepared to, they're much more likely to be irresponsible and unfaithful. Sort of like a mid-life crisis. Couples that enter their sexless phase prematurely is another huge one. If either party refuses to budge, the man is essentially being begged to cheat.
I find most people have a one track mind and won't even consider your view point, but, also think, feel, w/e, that you're attacking them. I'm use to people having conviction behind their beliefs and standing by them. But even doing that is seen as "aggressive".
I hate that too. You have to be passive just to get your point across but being passive means you never actually end up saying anything.
Talk about adrenaline junkie.
 
Just remember that, statistically, the lower the body count the higher the percentage that she'll stay faithful in marriage. Not that you have any way of knowing her true count because they're never ever honest about it. Add five to anything higher than zero. She won't count BJs and she won't count guys they hooked up with as a rebound. And if it happened when she was drunk she won't count that either.
Fuck it. Add twelve.

You shouldn't ask a girl what her count is anyway. You should be able to get a rough estimate based on other information about her life.
They usually have tells, but I remember the common stance in the old days of the Red Pill Sphere was stated number multiplied by 3. I do wonder whether it's the body count that primarily drives lack of relationship stability or if it's people who are relationally unstable that drive the high body counts, primarily. In other words, are faithless sluts made or are faithless sluts born. I suspect that's not an acceptable question to ask, what with the religion of Blank Slateism and all.

It all seems to boil down to timing in my experience. If someone settles down before they're mentally prepared to, they're much more likely to be irresponsible and unfaithful. Sort of like a mid-life crisis. Couples that enter their sexless phase prematurely is another huge one. If either party refuses to budge, the man is essentially being begged to cheat.
There's certainly something to that and I think some of at least America's attitude towards sex as either libertine or puritanical, no real middle ground, drives our inability to approach it reasonably. I always go back to Chesterton's line about how the first thing a man learns about sex is that it's wonderful, the second that it's dangerous, so you should approach it like the serious thing it is. If you want an amusing thing though, no less than Martin Luther's thoughts on frigid wives was you first bring it up to you priest to deal with, if that didn't work then the rest of your congregation, if that doesn't work, bang the maid. I know the modern church doesn't look at it like this, but you can't be a good Christian wife and holding up your end of the marriage contract if you're not putting out. Now, I think both sides have an obligation to remain attractive to the other, but if your wife isn't keeping her end of the deal, just inform her that if she keeps it up, you'll either leave or get your needs met elsewhere. Then start doing things to become attractive and not be unattractive, if they give a fuck they'll notice.

Your advice for the day is don't ever argue with a woman or deliver an ultimatum you won't keep. Just go do things, they will notice that, otherwise they'll call your bluff.
 
Now, I think both sides have an obligation to remain attractive to the other, but if your wife isn't keeping her end of the deal, just inform her that if she keeps it up, you'll either leave or get your needs met elsewhere. Then start doing things to become attractive and not be unattractive, if they give a fuck they'll notice.
Solid advice here. I'd like to add that doing things to become attractive and then maintaining those things indefinitely is good advice to any man. If you're legitimately staying physically fit, capable of some useful skills, and not being a loathsome dickhead all the time you'll find far more contentment in your life. Unless you have ludicrously low standards for yourself I think none of us will ever truly become the man we envision ourselves being. Even so, you never stop trying to get there.

Women will be much more interested in fucking this kind of man regularly and also much more interested in helping him remain this type of man. I also think that if you're happier with who you are as a man you're far less likely to feel you need a woman around. You'll always enjoy the company and companionship a good woman can offer but the actual necessity of having a woman diminishes dramatically. As many of these dumb cunts act like they want to save the world and everyone in it, few things attract them more than being a mere consideration in a man's life.

I agree with leftists when they say silence is violence. Saying nothing is akin to agreeing with them. These people aren't human anymore and they sacrificed their humanity for propaganda. If they're going to shout from the heavens how they're willing to die on a pillar of salt, it is your duty to make sure they die on it. The only way to get through to people like this and get them actually question what they say, is to completely humiliate them. They ONLY respond to humiliation.
My nigga! Turns out you're an alright dude.
 
It's easier to say nothing. But my go-to whenever they say "My aunt died because unvaccinated people" is "Who the fuck cares about your dumb aunt?".
I agree with leftists when they say silence is violence. Saying nothing is akin to agreeing with them. These people aren't human anymore and they sacrificed their humanity for propaganda. If they're going to shout from the heavens how they're willing to die on a pillar of salt, it is your duty to make sure they die on it. The only way to get through to people like this and get them actually question what they say, is to completely humiliate them. They ONLY respond to humiliation.
 
They feel things men just flat out don't. It's not that they don't want you to open up, it's just that once you do, their image of you is shattered and they lose respect for you.
I think that's why there is no point over-investing in a fake persona. Better be alone for longer than end up with a ticking time bomb who doesn't really like you to begin with.
 
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They usually have tells, but I remember the common stance in the old days of the Red Pill Sphere was stated number multiplied by 3. I do wonder whether it's the body count that primarily drives lack of relationship stability or if it's people who are relationally unstable that drive the high body counts, primarily. In other words, are faithless sluts made or are faithless sluts born. I suspect that's not an acceptable question to ask, what with the religion of Blank Slateism and all.
The answer is they're made. You can only pairbond with so many people before eventually it just stops working. You aren't able to forge that strong connection and you're just one wrong step from walking away at any moment. It's why they can burn through it like nothing. You were never a chance. There was and is nothing special about you in her eyes. You're just another guy. You always will be. The magic that pulls you together is dead. That's why they all wind up chasing butterflies. Butterflies don't last and they GENUINELY expect them to. They genuinely think that there's someone out there that will make that butterfly feeling constant, forever.

You can't break them out of this either, it's a completely broken point of view. If you try they just revert with "well there's got to be a guy who can make them last a long time though...it doesnt have to be forever". It's a forever complex.
 
The answer is they're made. You can only pairbond with so many people before eventually it just stops working. You aren't able to forge that strong connection and you're just one wrong step from walking away at any moment. It's why they can burn through it like nothing. You were never a chance. There was and is nothing special about you in her eyes. You're just another guy. You always will be. The magic that pulls you together is dead. That's why they all wind up chasing butterflies. Butterflies don't last and they GENUINELY expect them to. They genuinely think that there's someone out there that will make that butterfly feeling constant, forever.

You can't break them out of this either, it's a completely broken point of view. If you try they just revert with "well there's got to be a guy who can make them last a long time though...it doesnt have to be forever". It's a forever complex.
I don't know, if you look at how societies throughout history have treated women, the heavy restrictions they placed on them would indicate women have always been like this and it required a heavy society-wide hand to keep them from jumping on whatever passed for a bad boy at the time. Look at what happens every time those societal expectations are lightened, women go nuts. Women don't have to be taught to be sluts, you just lighten the restrictions and a certain percentage of them seem to go full on hypergamy, others just go with whatever society won't condemn.
 
They usually have tells, but I remember the common stance in the old days of the Red Pill Sphere was stated number multiplied by 3. I do wonder whether it's the body count that primarily drives lack of relationship stability or if it's people who are relationally unstable that drive the high body counts, primarily. In other words, are faithless sluts made or are faithless sluts born. I suspect that's not an acceptable question to ask, what with the religion of Blank Slateism and all.
That's a nice Bayesian way to frame the problem of relationship stability. Could lead to another autistic level research paper like we saw from our fellow kiwi about Discord and cp relationships.
 
That's a nice Bayesian way to frame the problem of relationship stability. Could lead to another autistic level research paper like we saw from our fellow kiwi about Discord and cp relationships.
I suspect, at the end of the day, it's like most nature/nurture problems and runs roughly 80 percent nature/20 percent nurture. It's just you're not allowed to state these things. In part, because if it's mostly nature, that means some women are just sluts and their slutty behavior is their fault and they're not controlling it. If it's just body count, then you can spin it as men's fault. If only men were good, then women could be good, it's not her fault she spread her legs for Chad, she was a good girl and Chad ruined her.

It's like bodice rippers, the main character isn't a slut chasing hot sex with cool guys, why it was the pirate/handyman/secret billionaire who just wanted her so much he just had to force himself on her. Neither of them could help themselves, it's really no one fault, especially not hers.
 
Because when you eat your girl's pussy full of your own cum, you have that girl completely.
What a thrill
With darkness and silence through the cum
What a thrill
I'm searching and I'll melt into you
What homolust in my heart
But you're so supreme!

I give my life, not for pussy, but for you (Cum Eater)
In my time, there'll be no one else
Crime, it's the way I jerk to you (Cum Eater)
I'm still in a dream, Cum Eater

Someday you go through the cum
And someday you feed on jizz
This ordeal, the trial to survive
For the day we see new light

I give my life, not for pussy, but for you (Cum Eater)
In my time, there'll be no one else
Crime, it's the way I jerk to you (Cum Eater)
I'm still in a dream, Cum Eater
I'm still in a dream, Cum Eater
(Cum Eater...)
 
There's certainly something to that and I think some of at least America's attitude towards sex as either libertine or puritanical, no real middle ground, drives our inability to approach it reasonably. I always go back to Chesterton's line about how the first thing a man learns about sex is that it's wonderful, the second that it's dangerous, so you should approach it like the serious thing it is. If you want an amusing thing though, no less than Martin Luther's thoughts on frigid wives was you first bring it up to you priest to deal with, if that didn't work then the rest of your congregation, if that doesn't work, bang the maid. I know the modern church doesn't look at it like this, but you can't be a good Christian wife and holding up your end of the marriage contract if you're not putting out. Now, I think both sides have an obligation to remain attractive to the other, but if your wife isn't keeping her end of the deal, just inform her that if she keeps it up, you'll either leave or get your needs met elsewhere. Then start doing things to become attractive and not be unattractive, if they give a fuck they'll notice.
I can sympathize with their sex drive dwindling and not feeling like they gain anything from having sex with their partner. But you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. If you truly love your spouse, you will do whatever you can to make them happy and to help them thrive. And unless both parties are on that same page, something has to give. No cap fr fr.
I agree with leftists when they say silence is violence. Saying nothing is akin to agreeing with them. These people aren't human anymore and they sacrificed their humanity for propaganda. If they're going to shout from the heavens how they're willing to die on a pillar of salt, it is your duty to make sure they die on it. The only way to get through to people like this and get them actually question what they say, is to completely humiliate them. They ONLY respond to humiliation.
I'm not into playing their game.
 
I can sympathize with their sex drive dwindling and not feeling like they gain anything from having sex with their partner. But you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. If you truly love your spouse, you will do whatever you can to make them happy and to help them thrive. And unless both parties are on that same page, something has to give. No cap fr fr.

I'm no fan of religion to be honest, but Islam and Christianity had it right when they said "sex is an obligation that a husband and a wife have to each other." In the same way that a husband should provide for his family, raise his kids, help out with chores etc., a wife should put out for her husband. A husband should do what he can to woo his wife of course, but ultimately, she should put out.
Also, unrelated, but sex before marriage should be illegal, this is a hill I will die on. Casual sex is a net negative for society and needs to be restricted.
 
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