Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

Honestly, I have to believe he’s trolling at this point to not be able to understand that taking pride in your clothes and accessorizing yourself to look your best is not lying. It’s called not being a fucking slob.
Your desire to be neat, professional, and embrace the style you like should never be taken as you trying to lie. If my lawyer, male or female, didn't keep their hair neat, they wouldn't be my lawyer for long.
 
You mean like how men have suits tailored 100% of the time, and choose/are counseled to choose a style that - dare I say - flatters (aka gives an improved line and overall impression)? And every single men's suit has shoulder padding. How dare you all hide your sloping, untoned shoulders and create a fake silhouette that implies you aren't pear-shaped!

And I know, I know, none of y'all know what a suit is. So how about this: men shouldn't wear full-cut, baggy, or untucked shirts because it's creating the illusion you're not pregnant with a flabby baby made of doritos and mountain dew.

And don't get me started on manlets wearing lifts or lug-bottomed shoes.
You think you're dunking but I unironically agree with all of this. Except the tailoring part. Your clothes should accurately reflect your body; if your body sucks you should fix it, not hide it.

I hope you find someone, I hope that for most people. Just know, she might want to wear makeup when you to go out. You might tell her you love her just the way she is but she might put on makeup anyway and it probably will not to attract or excite you.
I don't have a problem with that intrinsically, I haven't in the past, but I have and will continue to question why they're doing it.

Some women wear makeup to make their man look good, like you are both eligible and desirable in this power couple.
Gross. Putting on a false front because you care what other people think about you is gross. Caring what people think about you has its purpose but letting it drive you to dishonesty is gross.

Something something woman looking nice is lies. Thats pretty much been his talking point.
Still not sure if illiterate or bad faith.

This convo has been enlightening. I have gathered that there are some women for whom this question is such a cognitohazard that they literally can't understand what I'm asking. Apologies if remembering this thread in the future causes your brain to crash like a Langford basilisk.

Thanks all :^)
 
@dick brain Was that suppose to be some kind of sassy burn? How am I the woman in this part of the conversation but you’re the passive aggressive limp wristed finger snapper lol.

It’s not bad faith just because you don’t agree.

But yes, let’s keep shitting up the thread.

I wish you well on your endeavors to understand women and attempt to date them

And hopefully they won’t bad faith argument you with make-up in their mascara webs of deceptions (lol)
 
You think you're dunking but I unironically agree with all of this. Except the tailoring part. Your clothes should accurately reflect your body; if your body sucks you should fix it, not hide it.
Only conceived of it as a half-dunk..,because it's so basic it's not a real win.

By tailoring, I mean tailoring to fit as well as to accent/de-accent (which I noted, but OK will do again). I'll assume you've bought a suit. And if you didn't know the tailoring was intended to compensate for your deficits, well, welcome to adulthood, young fren!

I have gathered that there are some women for whom this question is such a cognitohazard that they literally can't understand what I'm asking.
This comment suggests you began in bad faith.

Your point, as far as I can understand it, is pretty extreme. And this comment suggests you came in with expectations of a particular type of response...and formulated your inquiry to elicit exactly that.

Bottom line is this: yes, some kardashian-level makeup, clothing, and surgery is designed to create an impression (presented online). But 1) no one with a basic ability to understand trends and bodies is actually deceived, and 2) everyone else (the 99%) is just trying to look presentable and good, according to their own drivers. To suggest that it's more honorable or moral to choose to present yourself in unflattering ways is...absolutely tard-level dumb, and suggests a lack of normal ability to read/interpret beyond the literal. Either that or a political chip on a person's shoulder the size of Antarctica.

I suggest de-escalating the paranoia and just learning how people are - both how to interpret bodies/faces, and to understand that 99% of makeup/clothing choices are motivated by a desire to appeal/a desire to feel good/a desire to meet social standards, not a desire to deceive or hoodwink.

And Christ, if you're so offensively deceived by a particular person, just stop knowing the person. It's not hard.
 
As a man I don't even like wearing clothes, I dont like buying it, testing it and so on. I've always used what works to my current necessity: if it is cold, then long sleeves, if it is hot, then go with shorts. It is all about utility for me, the right usage for the right time.

But of course there are people that sees different. People that see clothes and makeup as part of them like a glasses is for someone. Using makeup is kinda like glasses: you power up one of your lacking aspects. Or improve how you would look. I see it the same way in the sexual way: women with clothes are more sexier than full nude. It is a simple sum game, +1, +2, +3, the problem is how people believe that that is their natural state, if you wear makeup all the time, it kinda becomes your face, the same goes with a haircut or beard, when you drastically cut it, you dont even recognize yourself anymore, until you get used to it

Getting used to can bring both bad and good sides, I know I could look better with x clothes rather than Y clothes, but do you care enough to acquire it, use in the right context and so on? It depends of lots of factors.


Clothes and makeup are like proto-cybernetics, something to improve your current self, in the same way that carrying a cellphone all the time can be one too.

It is a funny topic to see how you relate to this, if you believe it is cheating or not, are contact lenses cheating rather than glasses when it has the same function? Funny stuff
 
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Getting mad about makeup is silly. The fact of the matter is, makeup only enhances what you already have. Unless you're wearing actual prosthetics and shit, makeup isn't going to make an actual ugly woman suddenly look beautiful.

A way to understand this is with cars. If you have a busted up car with huge dents, holes, and missing pieces, a new paint job isn't going to make it any better. It will just look like a busted car with fresh paint. However, if you have a car that is in good shape but has some faded paint and a couple of small blemishes, a new coat of paint can certainly make it look better, but that's only because it had a good base to start with. Women wearing makeup are the same. If makeup really was this all powerful tool to lie to men then ugly women wouldn't exist.

It's also silly when guys say they don't like makeup. No, what you hate is bad makeup. What you hate is makeup that doesn't enhance someone's natural features. When makeup is applied correctly, people look better, this includes men (Male celebrities wear makeup, FYI.) Everyone loves makeup, even if they don't know it.

I've talked to some guys about this so figured I should get some more honest female opinions. I often feel like I'm too boring for dating, but I can't tell if it's mind worms or if I'm genuinely dull. Has anyone dated someone but just lost interest in them in a short period of time? What about them killed your enthusiasm?
This is a very complex question that requires more information to give a better answer. First, what kind of stuff are you into?
 
Getting mad about makeup is silly. The fact of the matter is, makeup only enhances what you already have. Unless you're wearing actual prosthetics and shit, makeup isn't going to make an actual ugly woman suddenly look beautiful.
I agree with this a majority of the time, but have you seen the insanity that the Chinese Aunties get up to with their make-up. They un-ironically go from 50 year old hag to sexy 20 year old e-thot in minutes. It's incredible. (Though is likely somewhat aided by filters I assume.)

I am a woman, not mad, but you can totally turn a turd into a diamond in some cases.
 
I agree with this a majority of the time, but have you seen the insanity that the Chinese Aunties get up to with their make-up. They un-ironically go from 50 year old hag to sexy 20 year old e-thot in minutes. It's incredible. (Though is likely somewhat aided by filters I assume.)

I am a woman, not mad, but you can totally turn a turd into a diamond in some cases.
It's not somewhat likely, it's 100% likely. Those videos are always filters, filter abuse in Asian countries are so bad. In person, they look nothing like that. There's no way to make a 50 year old woman look 20 years old with makeup, full stop.
 
1. She's exaggerating being ugly at the start to make the change appear more dramatic than it really is. She's not that ugly.
2. She's using eyelid tape
3. It looks like she's using circle eye lenses
4. This is obviously filtered to hell and back lol

She wouldn't look like this in person.
 
Would and then Would again and then Would some more.
1. She's exaggerating being ugly at the start to make the change appear more dramatic than it really is. She's not that ugly.
2. She's using eyelid tape
3. It looks like she's using circle eye lenses
4. This is obviously filtered to hell and back lol

She wouldn't look like this in person.
So my opinion is correct
 
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