US Arrests at Chabad’s iconic headquarters after attempt to fill secret tunnel

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It took months, perhaps years for a small crew of Lubavitchers to dig a secret passageway underneath the famed headquarters of the Chabad movement. They would not let it be filled so easily.

The New York Police Department was called Monday to 770 Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn’s Crown Heights neighborhood, where a number of Chabad students — most in their teens and early twenties — mounted a last stand against construction crews called to fill in the tunnel connecting the synagogue at that location to the defunct Chabad mikvah around the corner.

In videos circulating on Chabad community news sources and social media, Lubavitchers can be seen ripping down the wood paneling on the south wall of the synagogue, revealing a cavernous concrete space about 20 feet wide underneath the women’s section. Several young men were sitting or standing in the space — apparently to prevent it from being filled — as scores of others watched or recorded video on their phones. The length of the tunnel is unclear from the videos.

NYPD eventually made 10 arrests, according to community news outlet CrownHeights.info. Video showed several men in Lubavitcher garb being led out, their wrists bound with zip ties.

Locked in litigation​

The chaos at 770 — the former home of the late Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson — was the culmination of a controversy that began when the tunnel was discovered in early December, and the latest chapter in a multi-year battle between the Chabad-Lubavitch movement and synagogue leadership for control of the iconic building.

Chabad-Lubavitcher movement spokesperson Rabbi Motti Seligson declined to comment.

It was unclear what motivated the creation of the tunnel and why some students reacted so strongly to the arrival of a cement truck Monday morning to fill it. Reports said the people behind the tunnel’s excavation — it was unconfirmed who that was, but sources tended to agree they began within the last year or two — had hoped to “expand” 770, but it was not obvious how the tunnel accomplished that.

A video posted on the CrownHeights.info Instagram in December showed a dark, dirt-walled crawl space allegedly beginning in the recesses of the former Chabad Women’s Mikvah, located at 1506 Union Street. Large dirt mounds obstruct much of the basement.

After the tunnel’s discovery, the leadership of Beis Chayeinu — the Chabad synagogue that meets in 770 — hired structural engineers to determine the extent of the damage and the safety issue it posed, and eventually moved to fill it.


According to Haredi news source Collive.com, the students who tried to stop the filling of the tunnel were mostly from Israel and associated with Chabad Messianism — whose adherents believe that Schneerson, the sixth Lubavitcher Rebbe, was the Messiah. The Chabad-Lubavitch movement publicly disavows those beliefs.

But the movement, despite years of litigation, does not control 770 Eastern Parkway, though it owns the title. It has been locked in litigation with Beis Chayeinu over control of the building for decades.
 
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We know what the jews were using their secret tunnels for now, and it's a good guess why Feline Supremacist, Catch The HIV, and that other kike want to keep this thread off topic.

Unexplored Jewish tunnels proven to lead South in the exact direction of 394 Kingston Ave (900 feet away from Chabad HQ) and linked to a Child R*pe case from 2 months ago.
 

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Look up the story of the oven of Akhnai, Jews already won a debate against God. If your argument is based on sound logic and proofs while not conflicting with any hard stops then it's legitimate.
tl;dr: Rabbi are arguing if a new type of oven is ritually pure, and in the heat of an argument a tree skedaddles, a river shifts, and a house starts to collapse until a Rabbi scolded it for interfering. Then the Voice of God intervenes, a debate that is difficult to summarize occurs, then it's claimed that God privately said the Rabbis triumphed over him.
That story sounds pretty lame and sketchy ngl
Also it is a Talmudic story
 
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I have not read the autism of this thread yet, but I just want to say that this tunnel shit is extremely radicalizing. Never gave jew stuff a second though before.

Now? Im very very critical of them, this combined with gaza is really starting to make me think the leadership and religious sects are exploiting innocents and hiding behind their religion to do whatever theySemitic.

Dude I'm east European and we openly dislike them and call them tricksters. There aren't many of them in the area I'm from because we don't play their "hello my fellow whites" shit.

Also, the rich and media types don't give a fuck about the 6mil holocaust victims. It's all a political advantage to them. They'd sacrifice 6mil more to further their agenda.

I have a few close jew friends, and they don't support Israel, nor do they ever ever speak about their Jewish essence, at all. They're goyim to the elites and extremists too.
 
Came here to see if there's any recent info and it's just pages and pages of useless sperging.
Disappointing.
I had heard they might have found more tunnels and more footage of them.
They Oy Vey Shutted It Down already. Information will be hard to come by because the people who would be trying to get details will face heavy pressure. Until we get lucky all we can do is take stock in what we know and determine if it is factual or not.
 
I have not read the autism of this thread yet, but I just want to say that this tunnel shit is extremely radicalizing. Never gave jew stuff a second though before.

Now? Im very very critical of them, this combined with gaza is really starting to make me think the leadership and religious sects are exploiting innocents and hiding behind their religion to do whatever theySemitic.

Dude I'm east European and we openly dislike them and call them tricksters. There aren't many of them in the area I'm from because we don't play their "hello my fellow whites" shit.

Also, the rich and media types don't give a fuck about the 6mil holocaust victims. It's all a political advantage to them. They'd sacrifice 6mil more to further their agenda.

I have a few close jew friends, and they don't support Israel, nor do they ever ever speak about their Jewish essence, at all. They're goyim to the elites and extremists too.
 
I have not read the autism of this thread yet, but I just want to say that this tunnel shit is extremely radicalizing. Never gave jew stuff a second though before.

Now? Im very very critical of them, this combined with gaza is really starting to make me think the leadership and religious sects are exploiting innocents and hiding behind their religion to do whatever they want.
A bunch of batshit crazy people who think "expand this space" literally mean DIG OUT THE FOUNDATION got you this worked up?

Also, Gazans reaped the whirlwind after their Hamas worship.

The ultra Orthodox and offshoots are known for being insane and in Israel many absolutely despise them for being whiny welfare people who literally complain that they aren't catered to more.

We know what the jews were using their secret tunnels for now, and it's a good guess why Feline Supremacist, Catch The HIV, and that other kike want to keep this thread off topic.

Unexplored Jewish tunnels proven to lead South in the exact direction of 394 Kingston Ave (900 feet away from Chabad HQ) and linked to a Child R*pe case from 2 months ago.
You'll find the EXACT same cases from Catholic schools, evangelical schools, Islamic schools, secular schools, wrestling coaches, little league coaches, karate instructors, piano teachers, the Boy Scouts, summer camps, etc.

EVERY institution where an adult has power over a child will probably have, sadly, a child abuse case. Those institutions attract pederasts.

Fwiw the plaintiff in that case was a teenage boy at the time of the alleged abuse.
 
Most people, regardless of zealous in-grouping. Commenting on an article of someone of their own group making random tunnels under their place of worship with baby strollers and stained mattresses in them, then fighting the police over it and being arrested over it. Would in fact say or at least allude to some variation of "Huh- That IS weird and unusual behavior. Perhaps deviant and autistic" Or try to blame a nearest neighbor group (IE: No those are PAKISTANIS SAR)
To be honest it's funny as fuck but for us, we view it as something like "oh no now the anti semites are gonna blame us for a bunch of stuff". I would describe it as a sorta battered wife syndrome where shes not in real danger of being hit but the events of the past few months made her flinch automatically. Looking critically at myself, the urge to explain what's actually happening is somewhat Greeresque in that I think that explaining stuff will somehow resolve things instead of just getting dismissed outright.

We're referencing those who latched onto an eastern religion, like Buddhism but later on thought Chabad was better. And here we are.
When you pointed this out something clicked in my brain. The whole Israeli leaves the army, travels to india, becomes spiritual and comes back to either Chabad/Na Nach observance is classic and these were Israeli bachurim. Definite food for thought especially when I know that Na Nach are notorious for abusing drugs.

I imagine this is how Ba'al or Moloch worship wormed its way into the Hebrew communities back in the day
I was taught that ancient peoples used to have an urge to worship idols that was comparable to people's normal urge for sex but the sages decided to ask God for the removal of this urge. The episode happens in Sanhendrin 64a. The Talmud also urges understanding for the tribulations of early Jews who had this desire in Sanhedrin 102b where King Menashe who served idols appears in a dream to a rabbi who mocked him for his being a sinner. King Menashe demonstrates that he's extremely knowledgeable about Torah and the rabbi asks him in amazement why the king would ever serve idols if he knows torah to this extent. The king replies with "Had you been there at that time, you would have taken and lifted the hem of your cloak and run after me due to the fierce desire to engage in idol worship and due to the fact that it was a common faith."

What is your opinion on mysticism in the Charedim? Are you in favor of it, against it, or are you indifferent towards it?
Haredi mystics/kabbalists have performed miracles for sure, I have experiences with Kabbalists who blessed certain people and their health situation changed quickly or they were able to have a baby. I have not studied Kabbalah personally due to being not educated or old enough to do so but I have read some basic works. I lean towards the Rabbi Nachman school of thought which essentially emphasizes one worships god with righteous joy in everything that they do, that despair is a state of mind that you should never fall into, and that no matter how far you fall there's always a way back to god. I also believe in Kabbalistic concepts like the Gilgul (literally "cycle") which talks about a form of reincarnation that many kabbalists believe in.

tl;dr: Rabbi are arguing if a new type of oven is ritually pure, and in the heat of an argument a tree skedaddles, a river shifts, and a house starts to collapse until a Rabbi scolded it for interfering. Then the Voice of God intervenes, a debate that is difficult to summarize occurs, then it's claimed that God privately said the Rabbis triumphed over him.
That story sounds pretty lame and sketchy ngl
Also it is a Talmudic story
It's more about how the study of Torah goes by the majority opinion not the minority opinion, not even if God agrees with the minority opinion because by giving the torah to the Jews, he handed over the ability to interpret it. You need to have a logical argument for why you believe in your position, you cannot break out of the legal framework that's set up just because you have an open miracle. This also comes with some hard stops (for example you cannot cancel commandments, you can only add onto them in order to protect the commandment from the torah from being broken, cannot say obviously heretical stuff, etc)

We know what the jews were using their secret tunnels for now, and it's a good guess why Feline Supremacist, Catch The HIV, and that other kike want to keep this thread off topic.

Unexplored Jewish tunnels proven to lead South in the exact direction of 394 Kingston Ave (900 feet away from Chabad HQ) and linked to a Child R*pe case from 2 months ago.
How do you know they lead south if the tunnels are unexplored? The tunnel is inherently leading either north or south depending where you're looking from.
 
Came here to see if there's any recent info and it's just pages and pages of useless sperging.
Disappointing.
I had heard they might have found more tunnels and more footage of them.
See attached. It's been linked to pedo shit. The resident kikes literally just want to shut down the thread over it.
 

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The whole Israeli leaves the army
Didn't know that but happens here as well with US veterans. War is hell on psyche and its a common response to sort out what they saw/did via religion.
ancient peoples used to have an urge to worship idols
I bet ancient people were just as hard to tard wrangle as modern people, but burning your children alive to a god is something that really, really needed to be labeled verboten and anyone advocating for it should have been put down. The ancient Greeks and Romans were horrified when they discovered it so clearly they managed to stamp that inclination out long before they came across the Near East peoples.
 
There you go with your Jewish obsession with excrement. All we ask is jews stop doing evil, but you can't manage it.

They didn't even start unfortunately. Hitler was entirely too good natured to finish what the Romans started.
Ok bud chill while mr I WANNA FUCK ABBY SHAPIRO is retarded that doesnt mean taking some austrian retard seriously just because he had a few good ideas about the jew.
 
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Haredi mystics/kabbalists have performed miracles for sure, I have experiences with Kabbalists who blessed certain people and their health situation changed quickly or they were able to have a baby. I have not studied Kabbalah personally due to being not educated or old enough to do so but I have read some basic works. I lean towards the Rabbi Nachman school of thought which essentially emphasizes one worships god with righteous joy in everything that they do, that despair is a state of mind that you should never fall into, and that no matter how far you fall there's always a way back to god. I also believe in Kabbalistic concepts like the Gilgul (literally "cycle") which talks about a form of reincarnation that many kabbalists believe in.
Okay, I ask because I was wondering if you might be someone who has grievances with mysticism.
I'm just trying to get a sense of what biases you might or might not have.
 
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It's more about how the study of Torah goes by the majority opinion not the minority opinion, not even if God agrees with the minority opinion because by giving the torah to the Jews, he handed over the ability to interpret it. You need to have a logical argument for why you believe in your position, you cannot break out of the legal framework that's set up just because you have an open miracle. This also comes with some hard stops (for example you cannot cancel commandments, you can only add onto them in order to protect the commandment from the torah from being broken, cannot say obviously heretical stuff, etc)
God has final say, as he is God, omnipotent and the creator of all and who the rituals are dedicated to. Since He is everyone and everything then He is also the majority position.

Also the argument in question had God say that newer types of ovens are allowed, but the Rabbis claim that only the old type is allowed.
And the oven in question uses wood, not gas or electricity.
Guess what type of oven Rabbis use now?
 
Okay, I ask because I was wondering if you might be someone who has grievances with mysticism.
I'm just trying to get a sense of what biases you might or might not have.
Essentially a modern Orthodox Jew from a yeshivish background who has incorporated some Breslov beliefs into my life and has a fondness for Chabad.

Also the argument in question had God say that newer types of ovens are allowed, but the Rabbis claim that only the old type is allowed.
The problem is that the oven is made up of multiple shards of broken ceramic filled in by sand. Whole ceramics can transmit impurity to food, broken ceramics cannot. Is the oven considered "whole" enough where it can transmit impurity to food inside it or is it considered a broken vessel that cannot transmit impurity to food?

God has final say, as he is God, omnipotent and the creator of all and who the rituals are dedicated to. Since He is everyone and everything then He is also the majority position.
Yes but he also gave the Torah to the Jews on Sinai. From then on, it's ours to interpret and in our legalistic framework, miracles are not a form of argument. Let's say you're in a court room and being judged for some crime. All the legal evidence is against you and it looks like you're done for but then God appears in the courtroom and proclaims you innocent. Should the legal system let you go because someone who doesn't exist inside the framework of the law says you're innocent in contrast to all evidence? The rabbis solved this by giving God a single vote.
 
Should the legal system let you go because someone who doesn't exist inside the framework of the law says you're innocent in contrast to all evidence? The rabbis solved this by giving God a single vote.
Haha I'm sorry but all I can picture now is an extremely Jewish man with a thick accent going, "well... we give God a vote maybe?"
 
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