Inactive Gonzalo Lira / Coach Red Pill / expat229 - Scam Artist, Male Feminist Pretending to be Alt-Right, Possible Rapist?, Liar, Failed Economist

So I said it three pages ago but in light of the news I think its worth saying once more.

Yes, Gonzalo is a retard, and yes he should have expected this is what he would get when he mocked the journalists at the hotel, and again when he announced his attempted escape online.

But, he is an AMERICAN CITIZEN WITH AN AMERICAN PASSPORT and the American government lifted not one finger to bring him back to face American justice. They let him rot and die in a foreign prison for the crime of being vocally retarded. Land of the free my ass.
First things first, if he was doing this shit anywhere but Ukraine or Israel the US would have shit drown that governments throat, but as a general principle I am fully supportive of this. I’m sick of dumbasses going to other countries, fucking around, and then crying to Uncle Sam to rescue them. Whether it be vandals caned in Singapore, missionaries trying to preach to North Koreans, thots roaming the Third World with a camera. Fuck them. You go to another country, you should expect to play by their rules, like I would hope (although it’s clearly not the case nowadays) would be the situation here.
 
he technically did nothing illegal by American standards, and thats why they didnt bring him back, is because in American court
If a foreigner comes to America to shill for Mexico while Mexico is invading and occupying our territory, Im fine with burning him at the stake alongside a dozen other aliens to make a point.

Edit: I think we have the same mindset overall.
 
The mere thought that an ex-KGB agency would have mercy on you "just because you have an American passport, teehee" is beyond idiotic
Ukraine cannot afford to pay pensions or fund their own government without the collective west. Upsetting the people who think they are paying for such things is a bad tactic. No one actually cares that Ukraine has a post-soviet gestapo that beats up their own people during the assembly of a volksturm. No one cares if a million Ukrainians die if it spites Russia. That's the grim reality. The average American might care if that gestapo kills an American. They might care if they cant pay their bills because the money is going to a foreign country that has nothing to offer in return.

What's the point of denying?
This is a bad look for a country pretending to be western. The fact you rattle the words "ex-kgb" off like "they're badass and take no prisoners ayyy fuck you soft liberal westerner" just proves how alienating the Ukraine war actually is to westerners when they're informed of such things. This is why Gonzalo's story is now a tool for anti-ukraine western talking points. But I don't expect eastern europeans to understand this.
he was on his own, the moment he entered the dungeon
Which is why Ukraine has and will lose allies while...attempting to join NATO and the EU.
Ukraine is an independent country
Not really. If it truly was it wouldn't be needing dollars and equipment from functioning economies to just keep things going.

Yes, Americans Are Paying for Pensions in Ukraine

Maybe don't fuck with Americans (bank accounts) during an election year when its tied to their own pensions and defense of their own border?

But again I don't expect Ukraine or their supporters to understand any of this or optics considering how they didnt ditch the nazi optics until far into the conflict. The entire "Russia is bad, Ukraine is protecting our values" is ruined by this sort of thing. Is that not clear?
 

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he entire "Russia is bad, Ukraine is protecting our values" is ruined by this sort of thing. Is that not clear?
Yeah, nobody argued that. Everyone I know in Ukraine is one-degree of separation of some seriously shady shit. Publicity is necessary for attempting to win the war and I think the intention of changing that Ukrainians have is sincere, but that's the type of shit that takes a generation of work to do. Still, the US is honoring their defense accords with Ukraine and a proxy war is better than setting the precedent that it's okay for Russia to do whatever the fuck it wants. It's not a great look but, CRP was never particularly valuable; him neither being a real journalist, just a Kremlin fluffer who spoke shit of the current administration. And the fact that the US is paying pensions is better than the fallout of a complete insurgent war in Ukraine and another refugee crisis in Europe. This is not the US buying Ukraine's sovereignty.

Edit: Wikipedia is SO FUCKING GAY IS UNREAL. Censor these nuts assholes.
 
If this was 1775 he would be sucking King George III's dick the before the battle of Bunker Hill
this, anyone coping that he was some kind of free speech advocate standing up to power is either delusional, grossly ill-informed, or acting in bad faith to intentionally sell a narrative about something else

nigger did not care one lick about ukrainian or russian geopolitics until war were declared and the opportunity to cash in on the conflict presented itself. I find it particularly comedic the same people denouncing zelensky and all the other jews waving flags for just being money grubbers will turn around and call CRP a fallen hero that sacrificed himself for the cause of freedom
as, of course, is "ukraine is so evil for suppressing journalists and speech it disagrees with- which is why russia should take over!"
don't really care about the politics of the war itself, but CRP being a russian shill and telling ukrainians to roll over and follow the russian law, then dying in a slavic gulag for trying to flee the country on parole for acts of propaganda, is profoundly funny irony
 
He was posting film he took of military checkpoints and equipment. That is seriously illegal, more so than petty vandalism and shitting on a government.
Man what a crime, you know we let the Chinese do that for free in Taiwan, and America because we're first world countries. I like that the goalposts have shifted from he was like a kgb spy to he was posting pictures of Avdiivka rustpile.
I know this is difficult for those estrogen-brained NPR pseudo-intellectuals among us to have any kind of abstraction, but you're supposed to be fair in the application of the law and not celebrate what is virtually an extrajudicial killing because hes your political enemy. Fairly rich coming from a poster on this site. I like the examples of North Korea killing someone to justify the alleged abandonment and death of CRP, as if that's supposed to be some kind of counter to the treatment of someone in what should be a democratic nation. Why are you supporting Ukraine then if they are on the level of some defective despot, did you even think about that? Even Russia has managed to keep Navalny alive.
You would be absolutely livid if some WaPo or NPR scum journalist was being taken for a ride in some third world hell hole for an otherwise minor and legal action. This post comes off more like a stereotyped emotional response rather than any kind of rational analysis on the treatment of what is essentially a joke journalist, a fraudster. CRP is both simultaneously a joke but a danger to the ukranian people and got what he deserved: an extrajudicial killing. How does that make any sense?
The malicious compliance on behalf of those who are really leftists is very tiring, and you should hope that you are never on the recieving end because in the future someone is going to tap their big gay made up lawbook and say "rules are rules".
 
I think CRP said in a video he had heart failure and wasn't going to live super long. The lungs filling up could have been some kind of infection from prison or a side effect of his heart failure. He should have been on hospice and not spazzing out in a foreign country.
Congestive heart failure.
The body tries to compensate in different ways. The heart beats faster to take less time for refilling after it contracts—but over the long run, less blood circulates, and the extra effort can cause heart palpitations. The heart also enlarges a bit to make room for the blood. The lungs fill with fluid, causing shortness of breath. The kidneys, when they don’t receive enough blood, begin to retain water and sodium, which can lead to kidney failure.
 
Publicity is necessary for attempting to win the war and I think the intention of changing that Ukrainians have is sincere
I think probably that if most Americans knew that, as you say, this is all publicity, and that they will actually put American citizens on this altar too, then probably your fucking fun bux would dry up faster than you could sniff green.
 
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He got multiple warning and decided to advocate for the invading force on foreign soil.
The reverse, actually. When Russia moved to kick the Ukrainian invaders out of the DPR and LPR, Gonzolo kept pointing out how retarded Ukraines response was. Was basically a "You retards are going to get yourselves destroyed!" Guess who turned out to be right.
 
He was in the forced custody of the state which makes the state responsible for his well-being. Death due to neglect is murder. This is basic common sense in the civilized world.

Shit happens though, especially in a country at war, when resources are stretched. No reason to think he was treated worse than any Ukrainian.

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Shit happens though, especially in a country at war, when resources are stretched. No reason to think he was treated worse than any Ukrainian.

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In this case shit did not have to happen. They've known he was sick for a long time. He could've been deported on humanitarian health reasons alone, that happens everywhere all the time.

They let him die on purpose to send a message. The ex-spokestroon is even saying as much publicly.
 
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