Horrorcow Murray Root / Lysik'an / Grimau / Ancient Guardian - Patriarch of the Crazy Autistic Fairy Headmate Family

Holy crap. When he pretends to be Baby, his writing becomes total gibberish.

There's something really disturbing about watching a 60 years old man roleplay a little girl so damaged she can't even speak properly.

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http://archive.is/iAbeE

I am fascinated by this bit of story.

"Baby" allegedly has Turner Syndrome, just like "Lissa". Turner Syndrome is associated with nonverbal learning disorder. Nonverbal learning disorder does not interfere with general intelligence or language, but does interfere with understanding spatial relationships and math. In spite of this, "Lissa" is a computer genius and "Baby" "loves particle physics and math" and can comment on string theory.

This is, of course, nonsense.

As an added bonus, tossing in a reference to string theory--pro or con--is exactly what we would expect to see from a 60 y/o computer geek as a bit of pufferry to prove their intelligence. Considering Murray's Junior College education, tossing in bits of "smart talk" like string theory is just the sort of thing we would expect to see.

But wait! There's more!

"Lissa" claims to be able to hear, but not make sense out of language because of her super-severe autism. In spite of this, "Lissa" understands and is able to transcribe the baby talk of "Baby". This is inconsistent. If she ignores language, she should ignore it coming from "Baby" as much as from anyone else. If it makes no sense to her, she should not be able to transcribe it.

Murray--you should have chosen a different disorder for your pretend wards.

ETA: Article on nonverbal learning disorder: http://tsgalliance.org/nonverbal-learning-disorder-nld/

The first sentence explains Murray's error in choosing Turner Syndrome. He wanted a disorder that would create super-genius programmer "Lissa" and interpreted NLD to mean Turner Syndrome makes the patient nonverbal but a math/computer genius. But NLD means exactly the opposite--the patient is quite verbal, but has difficulty with math and related methods of thinking.

ETA2: Shit, more samples above. Same nonsense.
 
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http://archive.is/iAbeE

I am fascinated by this bit of story.

"Baby" allegedly has Turner Syndrome, just like "Lissa". Turner Syndrome is associated with nonverbal learning disorder. Nonverbal learning disorder does not interfere with general intelligence or language, but does interfere with understanding spatial relationships and math. In spite of this, "Lissa" is a computer genius and "Baby" "loves particle physics and math" and can comment on string theory.

This is, of course, nonsense.

As an added bonus, tossing in a reference to string theory--pro or con--is exactly the sort of thing we would expect to see from a 60 y/o computer geek as a bit of puffery to prove their intelligence. Considering Murray's Junior College education, tossing in bits of "smart talk" like string theory is just the sort of thing we would expect to see.

But wait! There's more!

"Lissa" claims to be able to hear, but not make sense out of language because of her super-severe autism. In spite of this, "Lissa" understands and is able to transcribe the baby talk of "Baby". This is inconsistent. If she ignores language, she should ignore it coming from "Baby" as much as from anyone else. If it makes no sense to her, she should not be able to transcribe it.

Murray--you should have chosen a different disorder for your pretend wards.
You're right, NVLD is misinterpreted by people who don't bother to look up its definition because of its name, you would assume the people with it are non-verbal but actually people with NVLD love to talk and being an LD (learning disability) it has nothing to do with low functioning autism which is an intellectual disability.
 
If he's been consistently using the internet since the 90's, he's probably just adapted as the technology has evolved.
Likely a former AOL user. These kind of creepers were (and last I checked still are) very active on the RP scene from back then. A LOT of the old AOL RP terminology pops up, and the majority of the stories I've skimmed thus far are written in Free-Form chat posting format. My guess, since he's heavy on the tranny fairy angle - a lot of the "RhyDin" type of chatrooms.

Also, came across this in my travels.
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And this one comes from a thread about Obama's birth certificate.
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These final 2 come from a thread simply titled "honesty"
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edit: aol screencap.
found this when i finally remembered an old password. haven't used this in ages. the profiles system has changed multiple times over the years, but if there is an aol or aim SN, this is the page you get now if the user hasn't posted anything to their profile/lifestream.
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honestly don't know how old the account is, and if it's even an AIM or AOL screen name. If we go with the "wife dies, Murray went batshit" theory, there was still a very active and thriving roleplay community on AOL all the way up until around 2010-2011, with the height of it being the 90s, and a spike in interest around 2003-2007.
 
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How likely is it that he both has autism and some deeper, comorbid psychosis? Because the more I read the more I come to that conclusion.

Edit: also this reminds me of Duck Dynasty except with more lolis and delusional retards. and lacking ducks.
 
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i fucking KNEW IT. Okay, so something's bothered me for a bit now about the creation date on the WhoIs data. ICANN and privacy proxies hide the info, yeah. But ONLY personal info. Not insignificant things like dates. There's a LOT of things dates can tell us.
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Well, here we have it. The fruits of my labors so far.
Each of these are posted in chronological order from 2003 to present.
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The last one for some reason isn't showing the images. But it is the current version that's active, and has been since around 2013 - not too long before the Lysikan tumblr blog was created (2013/2014)

Screenshots 1 and 2 confirm the Roleplay theory. However they also PREDATE the death of his wife by 3 years at the earliest. The Roleplay MUD was still ongoing through the time of her death, and the site did not change for another 6-8 years.
 
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Is his claim of being touched by a coworker the same head mate as the one saying they are in a special padded room locked from the outside?
For those of you curious about what Baby looks like, he made some art of her. It's here:
http://www.lysikan.org/Images.php
http://www.lysikan.org/Images.php
There is actually an image that is pretty telling.
It's http://www.lysikan.org/Miscellaneous.php I can't directly link to it but it's the picture under the woman making out with a dragon on the right side.

A fat woman chiseled as a thin, beautiful nymph. A bald, chubby, pale man painted as a tanned, muscular, young stud.

He's a weird, lonely old man. I can kind of understand creating a fantasy online, the fact that his fantasy involves characters that look like children is quite concerning.
 
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i fucking KNEW IT. Okay, so something's bothered me for a bit now about the creation date on the WhoIs data. ICANN and privacy proxies hide the info, yeah. But ONLY personal info. Not insignificant things like dates. There's a LOT of things dates can tell us.View attachment 135704

Well, here we have it. The fruits of my labors so far.
Each of these are posted in chronological order from 2003 to present.
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The last one for some reason isn't showing the images. But it is the current version that's active, and has been since around 2013 - not too long before the Lysikan tumblr blog was created (2013/2014)

Screenshots 1 and 2 confirm the Roleplay theory. However they also PREDATE the death of his wife by 3 years at the earliest. The Roleplay MUD was still ongoing through the time of her death, and the site did not change for another 6-8 years.

I also ran into the MUD stuff, but there is a distinct change in the "type" of roleplay that happens when his wife passes. One of the original lysikan archives even explicitly states no sex/sexual talk.
 
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I also ran into the MUD stuff, but there is a distinct change in the "type" of roleplay that happens when his wife passes. One of the original lysikan archives even explicitly states no sex/sexual talk.

Looks like I overlooked one in my save file from when I was capping last night.
This is from later 2012 and fits in between screencap 3 and 4 from my previous post. I believe this is the change you were talking about.
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Still appears only after her death. The rules pages and such did not change until well after the wife's death. And "legal" was not added until 2012 as well. Not saying that the MUD is hard evidence that the sexual stuff didn't start around the same time as her death - but the groundwork was already there and i would not be surprised if he was already cybering with others long before this in the MUD and other roleplay outlets.

Sidenote: I forget where, but someone pointed it out already - "Lissa" was so happy when "Baby" finally turned 18 and could be her "girlfriend" now. - same section of text taken from whichever blog it is also says "Baby" became part of the family around age 14... The same age the real Dani was in 1983 (the year Murray got married). Maybe coincidence. Probably is coincidence. But "Baby" was originally called "BabyDani".
 
Um... does the male-bodied Murray claim to have Turner Syndrome, or does he claim to be a separate, female-bodied individual who has it? Because only XX individuals can have Turner Syndrome.
 
Um... does the male-bodied Murray claim to have Turner Syndrome, or does he claim to be a separate, female-bodied individual who has it? Because only XX individuals can have Turner Syndrome.
This is the simplest I can break it down:
Murray seems to recognize himself as himself, but also pretends to be a 30-something autistic computer genius with turner syndrome. The confusion comes in when we reach the point in history when "Lissa" stops being a character in stories and roleplay and is presented as a real person, along with the list of additional people in the family (likely all characters from the storyline he had been playing.)

Sidenote: looking at the comments on the google docs, it seems the stories are being written based on old storyline logs. This leads me to believe the others in the "family" are simply just characters of other people that he's lifted for his own purposes with possibly the exception being "Baby"

The Turner Syndrome is convenient because while it's not impossible for TS women to get pregnant, most are infertile. So it's totally okay to fuck the hell out of the disabled nonverbals because reasons.
 
Looks like I overlooked one in my save file from when I was capping last night.
This is from later 2012 and fits in between screencap 3 and 4 from my previous post. I believe this is the change you were talking about.
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Still appears only after her death. The rules pages and such did not change until well after the wife's death. And "legal" was not added until 2012 as well. Not saying that the MUD is hard evidence that the sexual stuff didn't start around the same time as her death - but the groundwork was already there and i would not be surprised if he was already cybering with others long before this in the MUD and other roleplay outlets.

Sidenote: I forget where, but someone pointed it out already - "Lissa" was so happy when "Baby" finally turned 18 and could be her "girlfriend" now. - same section of text taken from whichever blog it is also says "Baby" became part of the family around age 14... The same age the real Dani was in 1983 (the year Murray got married). Maybe coincidence. Probably is coincidence. But "Baby" was originally called "BabyDani".

I think it might not be a coincidence. He was a mormon at one point, right? Mormons can get pretty weird and mormon child marriages do happen occasionally, most notably in splinter groups like the FLDS. Some info about it: http://www.vice.com/read/the-search...ides-of-mormon-polygamist-leader-warren-jeffs

Also, do we know when his cripple fetish started? Was he roleplaying an autistic shit smearing elf even before his wife died?
 
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I think it might not be a coincidence. He was a mormon at one point, right? Mormons can get pretty weird and mormon child marriages do happen occasionally, most notably in splinter groups like the FLDS. Some info about it: http://www.vice.com/read/the-search...ides-of-mormon-polygamist-leader-warren-jeffs

Also, do we know when his cripple fetish started? Was he roleplaying an autistic shit smearing elf even before his wife died?
Haven't seen any evidence he's Mormon. We've just been getting some information from the Mormon genealogy site FamilySearch.org.
 
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I don't think he was actually Mormon. Familysearch (which has been cited in this thread) is a records database run by Mormons. They really like to keep records for some reason.

edit, because i was late on above:
yeah, i think he was rping shitsmearing elves before his wife died.
 
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