Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

This actually, very much this. Competitive but not confrontational is what I want, someone whos better than me who helps me be better and Im training myself to be able to do the same. And not just with politics, with everything. I know this is gonna sound weird but my mother is like this, we share information and talk about rando stuff all the time (Im also able to one up her almost always cause Im terminally online and spend more time reading unnecessary garbage). So it would be cool to have a partner like that as well.
For me I just want an equal, not someone who's exactly like me that would be weird, but someone who I can view on the same level if that makes sense too. Just someone to have a conversation with and we're both satisfied with eachother is my optimal goal.
 
I don't know if I agree with this. My ex and I diverged about politics over a long period of time and though it wasn't ultimately what ended our marriage, it contributed to it. When I started talking to my current boyfriend, one of the first things I got out of the way was feeling him out on what his politics were and what his views on different social issues were. I wasn't going to sign up for another situation like I had with my ex again where in the end we disagreed on almost everything in those spaces. It is exhausting.

I guess it depends on how important these things are to you ultimately personally. If you think you will be fine with someone diametrically opposed to what you believe, then I wouldn't mention it either. But if they are important, you don't have to mention it on your profile, but better ask those questions very early on.
That wasn't the situation posed. Posting negative, defensive political requirements on a dating profile is not at all the same thing as having conversations about politics once you've actually connected with someone.
 
I take care of it, trim it, keep it clean (no stubble anywhere) et cetera simply because I like having it. I think I look good.

Have I been tricking women this whole time? Am I wearing a mask? Society?
Personally I like beards. Almost always gives a guy's face more depth. The order is something like:
Clean beard > clean shaven > septic community neckbeard
I often feel like I'm too boring for dating, but I can't tell if it's mind worms or if I'm genuinely dull. Has anyone dated someone but just lost interest in them in a short period of time? What about them killed your enthusiasm?
Honestly, for me it doesn't matter what it is but I like guys who are enthusiastic about what they do, whether its work or hobbies. Can't get bored of listening to people talk about something they're really passionate about, even if its something weird or niche.

It's just an anecdotal observation, but girls I feel are more able to live vicariously off of the passion of others- so long as you're also making the effort to help them understand why you're into the thing (so don't explain it like chris chan explains sonichu).

Though in my experience, that last sentence is also just kinda the most efficient and accurate way to get a feel for a guy anyway. Liars and creeps (especially redditors or other current-thing trend skinwalkers) are never able to define themselves or their interests in concrete terms anyway because of their shallowness.
 
This actually, very much this. Competitive but not confrontational is what I want, someone whos better than me who helps me be better and Im training myself to be able to do the same. And not just with politics, with everything. I know this is gonna sound weird but my mother is like this, we share information and talk about rando stuff all the time (Im also able to one up her almost always cause Im terminally online and spend more time reading unnecessary garbage). So it would be cool to have a partner like that as well.
Realistically speaking, even if you find someone who does fit these criteria, it is so unlikely that she would present any of these traits until you two are already intimate. Even the type of girl who is generally open-minded is going to have her tolerance levels way below what it normally is with guys she just met. There's like a 1.5x multiplier on how confrontational people sound on the first few interactions.
 
Realistically speaking, even if you find someone who does fit these criteria, it is so unlikely that she would present any of these traits until you two are already intimate. Even the type of girl who is generally open-minded is going to have her tolerance levels way below what it normally is with guys she just met. There's like a 1.5x multiplier on how confrontational people sound on the first few interactions.
Knowing what someone tolerates and does not tolerate is usually the bedrock of the relationship. Learning about all of them keeps the relationship steady, I doubt someone wants to be overloaded with anyone's preferences, agitators, and aversions, you just learn more about the person and that's how intimacy blossoms.
 
I'd like a woman who would challenge my views and beliefs so we can discuss and come to an understand. Being openly combative however is what I think a lot of people have a problem with, you won't reach an agreement or understanding that maintains a healthy relationship.
That's sort of what I want. I don't mind one bit having my beliefs challenged. I am a Thunderdomer, after all, and I have learned a lot from being on the Farms and reading all kinds of different opinions and evidence for or against them and evaluating that evidence. But I don't want to start on a shaky foundation where we don't have anything in common politically either, particularly with my politics, which are spicy to many people and they would probably already turn and run, heh. So it would have to be a man that has a good bit of common agreement with me from the outset.

That wasn't the situation posed. Posting negative, defensive political requirements on a dating profile is not at all the same thing as having conversations about politics once you've actually connected with someone.
I don't really see the big deal about posting politics, and the mention doesn't have to be negative or defensive, just matter of fact, because I wouldn't want to waste time with anyone I didn't think I would get along with on that level. But if he thinks it would scare people away, then don't post it, particularly if it isn't important to him. But if it is and he chooses not to say anything on the profile, he should try to figure it out very soon.

I've never used dating sites though. All the men I have ever been with I met through some mutual hobby or interest.

Personally I like beards. Almost always makes gives a guy's face more depth. The order is something like:
Clean beard > clean shaven > septic community neckbeard
This. I really love a nice beard. I thought it was fucking hilarious when Rekeita went on about how women don't like beards and it is something that only men like because they are secretly gay. Man, couldn't stop laughing especially when he has one. Projjjeeecctttiooonnn. As many women like nice, clean beards as like clean shaven guys, seriously.
 
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I’ll just ask women their opinion on the entertainment industry to see if there’s a solid ground to spark a conversation. It’s another good starter because entertainment is everywhere and they can start with what they are watching or thinking and I can just add on and on.
 
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I’ll just ask women their opinion on the entertainment industry to see if there’s a solid ground to spark a conversation. It’s another good starter because entertainment is everywhere and they can start with what they are watching or thinking and I can just add on and on.
I think you can go even more general than that, like a simple "what do you like to do in your free time?" or "how do you like to unwind?"
I expect myself to be in the minority, but a guy asking my opinion on the entertainment industry on a first date kinda makes me feel like he's on autopilot after having several dates where the girl's entire personality was "I like to netflix and chill".
 
That wasn't the situation posed. Posting negative, defensive political requirements on a dating profile is not at all the same thing as having conversations about politics once you've actually connected with someone.
Keep in mind now dating apps have political orientation added in the things you can add. I straight up ad conservative and dont talk with anyone who is liberal. Political orientation in the current year is indicator for so many things including loyalty, wanting kids and the level of sexual fetishism . Almost all hobosexual men are either liberal or unaffiliated also. Liberal men are always cowards and lying pieces of shit they will spout what is considered vile by liberal standards opinions in front of me , but still cuck when others are present because of the fear of social repercussion and what others think. Women who date liberals are always strung along and fucked over far more than with conservatives .
 
That's really hard. Politics, especially in the US has become so volatile. Hopefully, AI on dating sites can separate it all out behind the scenes. IRL, politics is not something to completely ignore but I wouldn't recommend using it as a lead.
 
I think you can go even more general than that, like a simple "what do you like to do in your free time?" or "how do you like to unwind?"
I expect myself to be in the minority, but a guy asking my opinion on the entertainment industry on a first date kinda makes me feel like he's on autopilot after having several dates where the girl's entire personality was "I like to netflix and chill".
That is a fair point, I’m just used to people bragging to me what they like to watch instead of what they like to do. Plenty of people out there, so hopefully they have hobbies we both can relate to.
That's really hard. Politics, especially in the US has become so volatile. Hopefully, AI on dating sites can separate it all out behind the scenes. IRL, politics is not something to completely ignore but I wouldn't recommend using it as a lead.
I’ll only reference my idea of the complete dissolution of the federal government, corporations, and the banks on the fifth date.
 
In my opinion when it comes to dating apps you want to meet in person ASAP.

Potential bonding/interests fizzles out quick when you spend too much time in the DMs. Especially in a culture where everything is super casual, none committal, and unserious.

I know I might get pushback for this. But if you’re really serious about dating, and looking to date. And not just killing time using dating apps as someway to facilitate chats because you’re bored and only half thinking about dating.

Then go right for the kill and see how it works out.

“Hey, I see you’re from such and such area. Have you ever been to so-and-so area?”

“yeah once or twice”

If you spend too much time just bullshitting in the app you’ll just end up with an inbox full of DMs going nowhere.
 
In my opinion when it comes to dating apps you want to meet in person ASAP.

Potential bonding/interests fizzles out quick when you spend too much time in the DMs. Especially in a culture where everything is super casual, none committal, and unserious.

I know I might get pushback for this. But if you’re really serious about dating, and looking to date. And not just killing time using dating apps as someway to facilitate chats because you’re bored and only half thinking about dating.

Then go right for the kill and see how it works out.

“Hey, I see you’re from such and such area. Have you ever been to so-and-so area?”

“yeah once or twice”

If you spend too much time just bullshitting in the app you’ll just end up with an inbox full of DMs going nowhere.
There is an expiration date on making your move. If your at the bar or party, if you see someone that interest you, it's better to be brave and talk to them within a few seconds of that moment versus building up the courage, awkwardly peeking a glance constantly, and eventually talking to them minutes later.
 
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There is an expiration date on making your move. If your at the bar or party, if you see someone that interest you, it's better to be brave and talk to them within a few seconds of that moment versus building up the courage, awkwardly peeking a glance constantly, and eventually talking to them minutes later.
My advice to that is don’t be a wallflower, if you’re at a party then party. You’ll learn some moves while you’re at it too.
 
But if they are important, you don't have to mention it on your profile, but better ask those questions very early on.
That's the plan. I still care about these topics, just because they indicate which values a person holds – as I mentioned in the first message, I had a situation similar to yours with my ex, so I don't want a repeat of that.
Keep in mind now dating apps have political orientation added in the things you can add.
I dunno about that, nowadays a "conservative" could mean both "classical liberal" and "Bible-thumping redneck", so I wouldn't put too much faith in these labels (unless it's a "progressive", lol, that's pretty clear-cut)
 
This is advice to men from a man, really the best you can do for a woman is listen. Listening will add more context and open your eyes a bit more. Even if it’s nonsense just think about what she’s saying.
 
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