Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Po's Cootah]

If this is true then, can't say I feel too bad nor surprised because this is the type of audience she attracts and appeals to(dumb teenagers)

We should ban all kids from social media. Those sites would become less toxic that way.

 

[Kill Your Idols]

The only thing I liked about the pilot was Charlie because Disney princess in Hell trying to reform sinners is a great idea for a main character. Couldn't get into the rest so I'm just here for the drama.

 

[PaladinBoo]

That's not what I remember though. I remember her being scared/worried, and her dad having to reassure her he still loved her and wasn't going to abandon her for Blitz. Tbh the parts with Stolas and his daughter were some of my favs, because she's a kid with a pretty realistic reaction to her parents having a toxic/unhealthy relationship and while Stolas is deeply flawed, he still loves his daughter and tries to do the right thing in the end for her.

I don't agree with a lot of the criticism of the show. It's not perfect, but I think people exaggerate or straight up make up shit about it.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I'm not a fan of Viv and I haven't really watched her shows outside of a few clips on YouTube. I'm just going by what I've seen from the drama. However, I will say that Viv kind of had this coming. She would engage in cancel culture a lot over the years and should have known better that the tactics she used on others would also be used against her. The Twitter freaks that she tried to court have a purity spiral and if you fail their purity spiral they will throw you to the wolves and make you out to be worse then Turbo-Hitler.

FAGGOT ALERT
Beatbox Thanos WABAG and basically, you're a NIGGER!

I much prefer this.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

There are so many instances of cartoon nextwork and Nickelodeon animators drawing on-model porn of the preschool shows they're working on

Those people are degenerates and they belong on the guillotine.

 

[Waifu Days]

Mostly with John K but many other high profile weirdos were present

Animation and crappy bosses almost go hand in hand. Jay Ward and Ralph Bakshi had their issues and scummy practices. John was a big fanboy and worked under Ralph on Mighty Mouse.

Back in the day, it sucked but the money was flowing. Paying a mortgage as a tv animator was very possible. Especially, when syndication became big.

VivziePop is your typical SVA NYC student. That school doesn't train animators so much as it trains directors. She is trained to praise her team but was also trained to think less of them.

 

[WelperHelper99]

As others have said before, Viv comes from a wealthy family, and I think that has more to do with her poor behavior than her just being an autistic fujo, though that certainly does make things worse.

She's obviously been enabled her entire life so having multiple people criticizing her, and her work-no matter how reasonable, founded, or constructive that criticism is-, and not giving into her tantrums when she tries to deny any of it is something she just can't handle because it's never happened before.

A libtard from a wealthy family? And she can't take criticism? Imagine my shock!

How much did you watch? Because he does love his daughter even if he's made a lot of mistakes

I'm not sure where people get the impression that Stolas is supposed to be seen as blameless or w/e, since the daughter is the only innocent person in the owl family. A character can be sympathic while still being deeply flawed and making a lot of bad choices (flawless characters tend to be less sympathic no matter how tragic you make their backstory since they're Mary Sues).

I stated above, the HH pilot and everything up to the S1 finalie of boss. Ive seen enough to make a solid opinion. Stolas is a piece of shit. A villian. Nothing about his relationship with his daughter is healthy. Objectively his daughter should be siezed by CPS and he himself drained dry in court for being a cheating SoB

 

[Android raptor]

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I'm not a fan of Viv and I haven't really watched her shows outside of a few clips on YouTube. I'm just going by what I've seen from the drama. However, I will say that Viv kind of had this coming. She would engage in cancel culture a lot over the years and should have known better that the tactics she used on others would also be used against her. The Twitter freaks that she tried to court have a purity spiral and if you fail their purity spiral they will throw you to the wolves and make you out to be worse then Turbo-Hitler.

I much prefer this.
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The show isn't perfect but I liked it well enough. I don't know enough about Viv to say anything about her as a person, though I do know the fiction police have been railing against her for years. Plus with people like John K still around, Viv is nowhere near the worst person in the animation industry.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Pf, obviously the rat doesn't even respond.
Hey, at least i touched your confort bubble. That's enough for me, you fucking fag.

Anyway, imagine defending art created by furfags in the first place. At least in Twitter is now a nice show with all those comments punching the of Vivzie right now.

 

[Shidoen]

A libtard from a wealthy family? And she can't take criticism? Imagine my shock!

I stated above, the HH pilot and everything up to the S1 finalie of boss. Ive seen enough to make a solid opinion. Stolas is a piece of shit. A villian. Nothing about his relationship with his daughter is healthy. Objectively his daughter should be siezed by CPS and he himself drained dry in court for being a cheating SoB

It had my interest but now I watch the stuff just to see how and it can possibly get. It’s just gotten so boring and tiresome with how bad the writing is.

 

[Android raptor]

A libtard from a wealthy family? And she can't take criticism? Imagine my shock!

I stated above, the HH pilot and everything up to the S1 finalie of boss. Ive seen enough to make a solid opinion. Stolas is a piece of shit. A villian. Nothing about his relationship with his daughter is healthy. Objectively his daughter should be siezed by CPS and he himself drained dry in court for being a cheating SoB

There's another episode in S2 with him and his daughter. I'd prefer a character that's a piece of shit over a Mary Sue like James Bond, Littlefoot, or Tommy and Susie from Rugrats.

For some reason I get the feeling the show having gay characters plays a part in Thunderdomers getting mad about it.

 

[Shidoen]

The show isn't perfect but I liked it well enough. I don't know enough about Viv to say anything about her as a person, though I do know the fiction police have been railing against her for years. Plus with people like John K still around, Viv is nowhere near the worst person in the animation industry.

Well John K. Is a horrible person, it doesn’t excuse Viv behavior especially with shafting the original cast and the constant embarrassments on twitter.

 

[Android raptor]

Well John K. Is a horrible person, it doesn’t excuse Viv behavior especially with shafting the original cast and the constant embarrassments on twitter.

Still, if anyone deserves a giant cancel mob of retarded tumblr kids insisting they're literally satanhitler, it's John K.

 

[Namekian George Floyd]

Want to see some anonymous reviews from the animation staff about Spindlehorse? Here is a link to the tweet. (a)

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Spoiler: reviews

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One thing all of these reviews share in common is that they mention one of two things. The pay is low for industry standards, and disorganisation is present. The $60 per second rate is true and so likely the $35 rate. And favoritism is present, as some get paid around $1000 A WEEK. They also confirm that the higher-ups are all friends. And that any lower-ranking staff get fired. They always need new animators for a reason. "THEY ALSO SPREAD LIES ABOUT FIRED STAFF AND MAKE UP HORRID RUMOURS ABOUT THEM.", and finally, Spindlehorse artists are not paid for revisions.

Found this 18 hours ago, and some are suggesting "Ken's experience" (a) however, it was last seen 8 months ago, so likely not recent.

However, Viviziepop is getting cancelled with over 40K+ tweets about it & being trending on Twitter. Here are some tweets:
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It says "low pay" and "bullying" but what are the chances these are people with little to no experience? These shows have a lot of animation mistakes and whenever something is trying to look fluid for like an action scene, it just looks kinda off. I could be totally wrong but it wouldn't be surprising if what's really going on here is this studio is more open to people with less experience and the pay reflects that on top of criticism of their work being viewed as bullying cause if so many mistakes are still making it into these shows, you bet a whole lot more are being caught and fixed.

 

[Shidoen]

Still, if anyone deserves a giant cancel mob of retarded tumblr kids insisting they're literally satanhitler, it's John K.

Fair point, however John K. isn’t the popular thing anymore so tumblr can’t go out of its way to obsess over it. It’s like the whole animaniacs thing how it became hot shit and then died off when it wasn’t popular anymore. Tumblr kids are trend chasers, professional haters.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It had my interest but now I watch the stuff just to see how and it can possibly get. It’s just gotten so boring and tiresome with how bad the writing is.

Me it just came out in 2020, it was better than watching nothing and then... it just lost me. You stuck it out longer than I did.

There's another episode in S2 with him and his daughter. I'd prefer a character that's a piece of shit over a Mary Sue like James Bond, Littlefoot, or Tommy and Susie from Rugrats.

For some reason I get the feeling the show having gay characters plays a part in Thunderdomers getting mad about it.

Believe it or not I have a ability to tolerate gay shit. I watched Steven Universe in full as it aired. My criticisms of that show don't even touch the gay shit- the writing of its self righteous characters, much like HH, is enough to condemn it to the scrap heap. And it is clear characters like Stolas are written by people who have never felt true hardship, never gone out and seen life. Or else they would have never fucking written them that way.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Hey, if we fired people just for liking rape smut and hentai, women would never hold down a job.

 

[Shidoen]

Me it just came out in 2020, it was better than watching nothing and then... it just lost me. You stuck it out longer than I did.

Believe it or not I have an ability to tolerate gay shit. I watched Steven Universe in full as it aired. My criticisms of that show don't even touch the gay shit- the writing of its self righteous characters, much like HH, is enough to condemn it to the scrap heap. And it is clear characters like Stolas are written by people who have never felt true hardship, never gone out and seen life. Or else they would have never fucking written them that way.

For my adult entertainment I just watch American dad. It’s better than nothing.

 

[Android raptor]

Fair point, however John K. isn’t the popular thing anymore so tumblr can’t go out of its way to obsess over it. It’s like the whole animaniacs thing how it became hot shit and then died off when it wasn’t popular anymore. Tumblr kids are trend chasers, professional haters.

That's true, it's just the level of hate isn't justified for someone that's just messy on social media and possibly a shitty boss. Someone can be not a great person without being Literally Hitler.

John K on the other hand is fucking evil.

Me it just came out in 2020, it was better than watching nothing and then... it just lost me. You stuck it out longer than I did.

Believe it or not I have a ability to tolerate gay shit. I watched Steven Universe in full as it aired. My criticisms of that show don't even touch the gay shit- the writing of its self righteous characters, much like HH, is enough to condemn it to the scrap heap. And it is clear characters like Stolas are written by people who have never felt true hardship, never gone out and seen life. Or else they would have never fucking written them that way.

You aren't the only one with divorced parents here.

 

[King Metalia]

Want to see some anonymous reviews from the animation staff about Spindlehorse? Here is a link to the tweet. (a)

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Spoiler: reviews

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One thing all of these reviews share in common is that they mention one of two things. The pay is low for industry standards, and disorganisation is present. The $60 per second rate is true and so likely the $35 rate. And favoritism is present, as some get paid around $1000 A WEEK. They also confirm that the higher-ups are all friends. And that any lower-ranking staff get fired. They always need new animators for a reason. "THEY ALSO SPREAD LIES ABOUT FIRED STAFF AND MAKE UP HORRID RUMOURS ABOUT THEM.", and finally, Spindlehorse artists are not paid for revisions.

Found this 18 hours ago, and some are suggesting "Ken's experience" (a) however, it was last seen 8 months ago, so likely not recent.

However, Viviziepop is getting cancelled with over 40K+ tweets about it & being trending on Twitter. Here are some tweets:
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I'm confused about 2 things
1. What is the difference between noncon and rape aren't they the same thing?
2. Who has the rape fetish?

Seriously though how long until all the content in featured content is links to this thread. We've got two spots in featured content why not three?

 

[Shidoen]

Hey, if we fired people just for liking rape smut and hentai, women would never hold down a job.

Dicks out for Volcano High.

That's true, it's just the level of hate isn't justified for someone that's just messy on social media and possibly a shitty boss.

You aren't the only one with divorced parents here.

I just want Viv to keep a cool head, considering she’s leading a team of people and being a rep of her work. Especially working with a corporate studio like Amazon. She might get her stuff dropped after a single season if she’s not careful.