Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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Don't get me wrong. I am not knocking the show on it's subject matter. After all the setting is in hell. Hell should be a awful place where things that are reprehensible in the mortal world is common place there. As someone who likes D&D and whose favorite setting is the Nine Hells you are told that the Nine Hells is the worst place in existence, where living there makes you wish for an end to your existence and where devils will do any depraved act to damn and corrupt your soul to an eternity of torment. Those Tumblr snowflakes would cry in offense at The Book of Vile Darkness and Chains of Asmodeus supplements. It would have been easier for Viv just to tell her detractors; "The show takes place in hell for fucks sake. Grow up." However, she just keeps digging herself into a deeper hole which in turn lead to people finding out that she treats her animators like shit and finding out her closet full of fetishes. All of this could have been avoided if she had a tard wrangler.
I assume all animators have a closet full of fetishes until proven otherwise
Let's say it was the pre-entry, thats were the whole nepotist culture of hiring college and Tumblr friends started, that's Pendleton Ward's damage to the cartoon industry extends , Steven Universe and Gravity falls era is were things really took off, thats when weirdos like Alex Hirsch, Daron Leah Nefcy, Dana Terrace and straight up pedos like Julia Vickerman got in (like holy shit how twelve forver and her got sweep over the rug)
Vickerman is in the tier of John K and getting swept under the rug is the least she deserves.

I'll take nepotism and acting retarded on social media over pedophilia.
 
I will say this about being a grunt in life: it teaches you respect. It teaches you to know your worth. Viv does not know her worth. Specifically she thinks she shits diamonds. She hasn't been told "you're wrong, do the weld again". And then does it again, for years, failing and failing until becoming good enough to become a welder- but still be years behind her peers, because thats just her level.
I don't understand what this "stay in your lane and know your place" shit is about, what exactly did she do to deserve all this ire barring the rape "kink?" Is there any real reason this woman can't make her cartoon?
 
ian (apparently) had a guy tardwrangle on her behalf.
Anita had her boyfriend Jonathan McIntosh wrangle her. He was the main driving forces behind Feminist Frequency and wrote a most of the episodes. He was likely the entire reason why it even existed, Anita was the face for him turning the 80s-90s stereotype of misogynistic nerds and gamers into a grift. It's no surprise that Tropes vs. Women series never got finished, episodes stopped being produced after they broke up, but luckily for her, she managed to carpetbag herself into the gaming industry as an "expert" on "women's rights in video games" and live comfortably off the fame she accrued from Gamergate.

After they broke up, Jon took the "Tropes vs. Women" concept as his own and runs the Youtube channel "Pop Culture Detective", where he basically does the same things Anita did, but using his own mouth to read what he wrote instead of Anita's.
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A lot of focus on how demasculinization is a good thing, reading way into things and conjuring up feminist "meanings" that the creators never intended, jerking himself off to the idea of subverted expectations in Hollywood films, and sometimes he states the obvious, like "Wall-E was social commentary!"

Looking back, Jon and Anita really did sew the seeds for the late 2010s era of video essays replacing old school rant videos, with increasingly pretentious 80s baby hipsters overanalyzing media from their childhoods under an unnecessary, fun-sucking political lens, crying about how problematic old media is and making it everyone's problem. You can blame all the Lindsay Ellises and Vaushes on these two grifter stooges.
 
Remember we’re in current year + n, so creating an 18+ plus account won’t keep nasty degeneracy away (anyone w/o an account or given a special under-18 account will be targeted by stunning and brave big homo).
The delusional thing about having Internet ID is that it won't keep perverts off of spheres meant for children, Elsagate proved that much. It would defeat its own purpose and just ruin privacy on the Internet altogether.
 
I don't understand what this "stay in your lane and know your place" shit is about, what exactly did she do to deserve all this ire barring the rape "kink?" Is there any real reason this woman can't make her cartoon?
My guess would be Viv engaging in cancel culture over the years and her raking in a lot of enemies over it. Remember, she got the creator of FNAF, Scott Cawthon, canceled because he is a republican who donated to Trump. Oh the horror. Hell have no fury like Zoomer fans scoured. Many people, especially the FNAF fans, liked Scott and have wanted Vivizie head since. Karma is a bitch ain't it Viv?
Anita had her boyfriend Jonathan McIntosh wrangle her. He was the main driving forces behind Feminist Frequency and wrote a most of the episodes. He was likely the entire reason why it even existed, Anita was the face for him turning the 80s-90s stereotype of misogynistic nerds and gamers into a grift. It's no surprise that Tropes vs. Women series never got finished, episodes stopped being produced after they broke up, but luckily for her, she managed to carpetbag herself into the gaming industry as an "expert" on "women's rights in video games" and live comfortably off the fame she accrued from Gamergate.

After they broke up, Jon took the "Tropes vs. Women" concept as his own and runs the Youtube channel "Pop Culture Detective", where he basically does the same things Anita did, but using his own mouth to read what he wrote instead of Anita's.
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A lot of focus on how demasculinization is a good thing, reading way into things and conjuring up feminist "meanings" that the creators never intended, jerking himself off to the idea of subverted expectations in Hollywood films, and sometimes he states the obvious, like "Wall-E was social commentary!"

Looking back, Jon and Anita really did sew the seeds for the late 2010s era of video essays replacing old school rant videos, with increasingly pretentious 80s baby hipsters overanalyzing media from their childhoods under an unnecessary, fun-sucking political lens, crying about how problematic old media is and making it everyone's problem. You can blame all the Lindsay Ellises and Vaushes on these two grifter stooges.
I'll like to point out that the reason Macintosh is such a emasculated, groveling, cuck is because he is ashamed that his daddy is a rich, Christian republican (his dad is the biggest donor to the Washington State Republican Party) and like all white liberal millennials he is guilt ridden and feels the need to repent for his "Original Sin". Such a person is common here in the West Coast.
 
Case in point, fujoshi's idolization of Jeffery Damer.
Fiction has always been used as a vehicle to safely explore shit that isn't ok irl, and it shouldn't be the responsibility of fiction creators to tard wrangle people with mental illness so severe they can't differentiate fiction from reality (especially if they're making fiction clearly labeled as for mature audiences only).
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The unholy autistic combination of actual demonology and tumblr transgender pandering is a ticking time bomb. Both appeal to mentally ill people online, like Randy stair types. Just recently, lulzcow styxhexhammer666 threatened to kill a drug dealer after abandoning his wife and child in the name of demon prince Stolas. The brony fandom alone inspired multiple spree killers. Helluva boss/Hazbin hotel already infamous for being obsessed with real world serial killers.
 
The animator traced a good amount of it too:
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The animator is the true winner here. $50k for 3 minutes of low quality, traced jerk off material that didn't involve any actual sex or bizarre fetishes (beyond the BDSM shit). Hope he uses it wisely, because not even furry fetish porn commission artists make paydays as easy or as big as this.

$50k is probably more expensive than what it costs to film actual porn, Verbalase got bled DRY.
The fact that this jig got scammed 50k for gooning material proves to me that niggos are truly bad with money.
 
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The unholy autistic combination of actual demonology and tumblr transgender pandering is a ticking time bomb. Both appeal to mentally ill people online, like Randy stair types. Just recently, lulzcow styxhexhammer666 threatened to kill a drug dealer after abandoning his wife and child in the name of demon prince Stolas. The brony fandom alone inspired multiple spree killers. Helluva boss/Hazbin hotel already infamous for being obsessed with real world serial killers.
Still not the job of fiction creators to tard wrangle people too mentally ill to separate fiction from reality.
 
Remember, she got the creator of FNAF, Scott Cawthon, canceled because he is a republican who donated to Trump.
Yeah that's bullshit, but that's only one thing that you could easily forget about or even forgive if given enough time or change in behavior, I've noticed other people mention backstabbing and whatnot but no details of who, what, when, where and why. Other people are mentioning she merits a lolcow thread for all these things but nobody seems like they can be assed to make it.
 
Is there any real reason this woman can't make her cartoon?
No, but it's funny seeing her take it for granted. She got handed her show on a silver platter which got famous by her already being a famous animator. It's not like we're trying to sabotage her cartoon. We don't do that, we just let people sabotage themselves while we sit back and watch.
 
It's no surprise that Tropes vs. Women series never got finished, episodes stopped being produced after they broke up, but luckily for her, she managed to carpetbag herself into the gaming industry as an "expert" on "women's rights in video games" and live comfortably off the fame she accrued from Gamergate.
The only "women's rights" in gaming sould be that both men and women get to be called niggers and faggots by 11 year old squeakers in Call of Duty.
No, but it's funny seeing her take it for granted. She got handed her show on a silver platter which got famous by her already being a famous animator. It's not like we're trying to sabotage her cartoon.
She can't tell the difference between people who are trolling the fuck out of her because she's trollbait and people who were legitimately trying to get her to pull up. She's going to get more of the former since she's given away her berserk buttons even more blatantly than before.
 
My guess would be Viv engaging in cancel culture over the years and her raking in a lot of enemies over it. Remember, she got the creator of FNAF, Scott Cawthon, canceled because he is a republican who donated to Trump.
My favorite part is the Latinos and zoomers that dox her in retaliation over Scott Cawthon and his family being doxed. She cries racism, yet Latinos hate her online. Especially when she acts offended on behalf of them. FNAF is huge in the Mexican community and Latin America on a whole. She should've seen it coming fucking with the creator of FNAF.
Oh the horror. Hell have no fury like Zoomer fans scoured. Many people, especially the FNAF fans, liked Scott and have wanted Vivizie head since. Karma is a bitch ain't it Viv?
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I had a feeling furries will turn on her soon as she tried to sideline Loona from Helluva boss. The most popular and profitable character from the series over a pissing match with voice actress.
Still not the job of fiction creators to tard wrangle people too mentally ill to separate fiction from reality.
True, but she is responsible for how horrible the Hazbin hotel fandom are filled with drama and toxic behavior, like thinking it's funny for the FNAF creator's pregnant wife being doxxed by her fans because they don't share her voting habits. She encourages a mentally ill fandom that behaves like an angry mob.
 
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Still not the job of fiction creators to tard wrangle people too mentally ill to separate fiction from reality.
I don't believe in censorship either, sure (I've even written a novel or two you might personally find deserving of censorship, because I often explore depravity and the decline of individuals and civilization as a whole on a spiritual level in my deliberately fucked up fiction) but to be frank, certain types of people are poorly equipped to handle certain types of media on an emotional level and what makes something like this cartoon exploitative is that it's the exact kind of thing the immature and mentally ill are almost guaranteed to latch onto as an audience. I don't think the show should be censored, but at the very least it should be understood that a brightly colored piece of adult animation is going to draw attention that it shouldn't have.
 
My favorite part is the Latinos and zoomers that dox her in retaliation over Scott Cawthon and his family being doxed. She cries racism, yet Latinos hate her online. Especially when she acts offended on behalf of them. FNAF is huge in the Mexican community and Latin America on a whole. She should've seen it coming ducking with the creator of FNAF.
This Loona character looks suspiciously a lot like a FNAF character.
 
I don't believe in censorship either, sure (I've even written a novel or two you might personally find deserving of censorship, because I often explore depravity and the decline of individuals and civilization as a whole on a spiritual level in my deliberately fucked up fiction) but to be frank, certain types of people are poorly equipped to handle certain types of media on an emotional level
Then it's up to their social workers and other professional tard wranglers to prevent them from consuming it, not fiction creators.
 
Not sure why the whole liking rape shit is an issue. 61% of women have rape fantasies. It used to be up to 57% of average women. 9 to 17% of women have rape as a frequent or favorite fantasy. There are NORMAL PEOPLE. Rape is a common sexual fantasy to have. It's fucked up to be raped in real life, but rape is a common fantasy and it's stupid to shame people for liking it. Rape is wrong but you can consent to roleplaying a rape fantasy and it doesn't involve anything relating to children or animals or other people who can't give consent beforehand. Why is it an issue?
 
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