UN Pope Francis calls for greater dialogue and cooperation between Christians, Marxists - "I thank you for your commitment to dialogue,” the pope said in a private meeting on Jan. 10 with 15 representatives of an association of European leftist politicians and academics that seeks to bridge Catholic social teaching and Marxist theory.

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Pope Francis meets with representatives of DIALOP, Transversal Dialogue Project, an association of European leftist politicians and academics that seeks to bridge Catholic social teaching and Marxist theory, on Jan. 10, 2024, at the Vatican. | Credit: Vatican Media

Pope Francis this week called for cooperation between Christians and Marxists as a way to achieve greater “dialogue” and help in the search for the “common good.”

“I thank you for your commitment to dialogue,” the pope said in a private meeting on Jan. 10 with 15 representatives of DIALOP (Transversal Dialogue Project), an association of European leftist politicians and academics that seeks to bridge Catholic social teaching and Marxist theory.

“There is always a great need for dialogue, so do not be afraid,” the pope said during the event at the Paul VI Audience Hall.

Highlighting the nexus between social, economic, and ecological issues, the pope said that “politics that is truly at the service of humanity cannot let itself be dictated to by finance and market mechanisms.”

The pope buttressed his call for a more inclusive participation in economic and political decision-making by suggesting that “instead of rigid approaches that divide, let us cultivate, with open hearts, discussion and listening.”

“And not exclude anyone at the political, social, or religious level, so that the contribution of each can, in its concrete distinctiveness, receive a positive reception in the processes of change to which our future is linked,” the Holy Father added.

“Don’t back off, don’t give up, and don’t stop dreaming of a better world. For it is in imagination, the ability to dream, that intelligence, intuition, experience, and historical memory come together to make us be creative, take chances, and run risks.”

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Pope Francis meets with representatives of DIALOP, Transversal Dialogue Project, an association of European leftist politicians and academics that seeks to bridge Catholic social teaching and Marxist theory, on Jan. 10, 2024, at the Vatican. Credit: Vatican Media

The pope argued that “solidarity is not only a moral virtue but also a requirement of justice, which calls for correcting the distortions and purifying the intentions of unjust systems, not least through radical changes of perspective in the sharing of challenges and resources among individuals and among peoples.”

The pope closed his speech with a reflection on the importance of the rule of law, saying: “It is only in honesty and integrity that healthy relationships can be established and that we can cooperate confidently and effectively in building a better future.”

Pope Francis has made critique of the market economy one of the defining themes of his pontificate. In his 2013 apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium, the pope wrote: “We can no longer trust in the unseen forces and the invisible hand of the market.”

HIGHLIGHTS | Pope Francis met at the Vatican with members of the DIALOP transversal dialogue project, which brings together socialists/Marxists and Christians in order to propose a common social ethic for Europe.




“Growth in justice requires more than economic growth, while presupposing such growth: It requires decisions, programs, mechanisms, and processes specifically geared to a better distribution of income, the creation of sources of employment, and an integral promotion of the poor, which goes beyond a simple welfare mentality.”

Vatican News noted that the Jan. 10 audience was “not a short greeting but an interview that lasted with spontaneous questions and answers for about 40 minutes.”

DIALOP was founded in 2014 after a meeting between Pope Francis, the Vienese leftist politician Walter Baier, former Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras, and Franz Kronreif of the Focolare Movement, a spiritual and social renewal founded in 1943 — and approved by the Church in 1962 — to promote universal brotherhood and to foster dialogue between different religious groups.

Both Baier and Kronreif were present at the Jan. 10 meeting. In an interview with Vatican News following the audience, Baier noted that during the speech the pope highlighted “the need for solidarity” especially “toward socially disadvantaged people.”

“He called for a dialogue that goes beyond historical patterns, a dialogue that deals primarily with the excluded and vulnerable and that respects the principles of the rule of law.”

Kronreif said to Vatican News that following the pope’s call from the meeting, the association is “preparing a two-year project that should start in the autumn on peace, on how to build peace ... a project to involve especially the young generations in how to make peace grow from below, so that everyone feels called upon to create peace around themselves, to help the victims of war to realize what the roots of war may be and what are the tools to prevent it.”

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Guess he's finally going full mask-off Marxist now.

Nothing particularly surprising about that. I'm sure what he will end up writing though is something about how living a Christian life is acktually strongly related to socialism and Marxism. What this moron is missing is that a lot of things shouldn't be the responsibility of the government or politics. It should be of the Church. Programs for the poor, hospitals, schools, etc, it shouldn't be left up to Marxism or any other such political philosophy.

The real problem with the Pope is that he won't be real with anyone he dialogues with. He'll meet with troons and Marxists but then he won't tell them to leave their sinful lives and ideology or help them with doing that. He just wants a photo-op and media attention and I find it to be a bunch of horseshit.
 
2000 year to try and ward of Jewish domination and degeneracy, worked out great didn't it.
Let me remind you that among Western countries the USA is the most Christian and oddly enough the most degenerate. Literally invading countries to make them worship the gays.
Almost as if Western civilization has, over the past few decades, almost totally begun to reject Christianity in order to embrace materialistic and hedonistic beliefs. Socialism, Progressivism, and Consumerism have supplanted God in Western civilization. Most of this is thanks to events like the Long March through the Institutions and the continuing Marxist subversion of all social elements of the West.
Nigger have you read the Bible? Find me any Saga that is as deprived and degenerate as this Jewish book.
What exactly is so degenerate about the Bible? Name me some specifics. Regardless, I was referring to the specific actions of those peoples. The Vikings stopped being savages who thrived on loot and pillage after Christianization. The Slavs and Magyars became civilized peoples and abandoned their nomadic and wandering roots as Christians. The Romans stopped their de facto human sacrifices and blood sports under Christianity. Wretched practices like slavery have been stamped out of huge swathes of this Earth because of the efforts of Christian civilization.
Jewish character hasn't changed much it's still as disgusting as it is portrayed in the OT, since they inflict their own trauma onto their children that will never end.
What are you even talking about here, all you are doing is going "it's le heckin' bad" and not even giving the slightest indication of why or what. The OT, being largely a history book, shows mostly a history of a people — a history surprisingly mundane when one considers the time period and societal level the Hebrews were at. At this same time, groups like the Canaanites literally sacrificed children to their barbarous idols.
people were getting married before Christianity, celebrated Christmas before it was called Christmas,
Literally don't know what you're implying here, although before Christianity, polygamy was common and the "Saturnalia == Christianity" is just a modern meme from euphoric atheists.
Europeans had high morals before Christianity.
Human sacrifice, slavery, tribalism, caste-systems, all great European things big bad Christianity stomped out.
The only reason Christianity isn't as barbaric as Judaism is because of the high amount of Greek philosophy the authors incorporated into it.
You mean didn't include. The Greek Philosophers like Plato would have you an enslaved serf, forced to kowtow to them and serve their every whim. Your sons would be raped during pederasty because the Greek Philosophers literally believed that they were the best and should be the masters of all civilization. That shit is the original root of Marxism.
You are under some delusion that Europeans were devout Christians at any time.
For most of the time it was forbidden to know what is written in the bible and sermon were held in Latin which nearly no one spoke.
They were even more Christians on paper only than they are today.
This proves you really don't understand the role of religion, nor the past well enough to comment on it and are getting shit from pop history. Let me guess, you also think jus primae noctis was an actual thing?
Christianity was still alive under those systems.
Their ideological systems were literally designed in opposition to Christianity, and both Marxist and National Socialist regimes did their best to subvert and destroy Christianity. If they had their way, they would have replaced it with the shit I mentioned previously.
Again look were the most Christian Western country is right now.
Look what 2000 years of Christianity brought you.
It brought the most powerful, most peaceful, most cultured, and most wealthy civilization known to man. That it still is relatively prosperous and peaceful despite the consistant subversions of the ruling elite for decades illustrates just how successful it actually was.
All the good you attribute to Christianity somehow never materializes in Afrika, strange how that works
A century of Christianity cannot take the place of two thousand. It took millenia for Christian civilization to finally finish stamping out the old paganisms and gain its prosperity from the ashes of barbarity. It'll take a lot of time, but if you actually read about it, Africa today is actually doing a lot better in most places than the Africa of twenty years ago, or a century ago.


Again though, I noticed something. You never proposed a plan, what to replace Christianity with. So what, exactly, do you plan to replace the "evil Jewish plot" that Christianity is with? Because as it is, Christianity sure seems to be doing a lot better than any alternative, and the big fat fuck all you propose to replace it with.
 
>Western progress wasn't due to European people it was due to Jewish myths.

Preach it, that is why Christian Afrika is advancing like crazy, they can't be stopped.
Whats with this retardation that everyone in europe was a peace loving hippy while the mid east and africa were child sacrificing hellholes before the advent of christianity and islam ( still true though ) just because europe didnt have everyone burning their kids to a dem...i mean a bull idol doesnt mean that somehow euroland was free of weird degen bullshit.
 
I'm sure if you keep tipping your fedora hard enough, a woman will finally see what a sophisticated intelligent gentleman you are, and will finally touch your peepee.


Catholics don't speak for all Christians. It's been under attack for a long time, subject to subversion and cucking from the inside, because Christianity is the correct religion. It triggers idiots like none other. Jesus Derangement Syndrome is the original derangement syndrome.
I don't even know what this means, you sound like a faggot etc.
 
It's embarrassing enough to be a Catholic today. The Church's sole function, if they want to win back the faithful they lost instead of padding their numbers with the unwashed masses in Africa and South America, is get the child rapists out of the priesthood and nunneries.

Supporting the trans community is just doubling down on their support of predators, and trans are drawn to Marxism like flies to state-sponsored genital mutilation.
 
Almost as if Western civilization has, over the past few decades, almost totally begun to reject Christianity in order to embrace materialistic and hedonistic beliefs.
The US is the most Christian among the Western Nations, yet it's the most degenerate. The Nation that bombs you if you don't celebrate faggots.
What exactly is so degenerate about the Bible
It's called the OT and some parts of the NT.
Shit like this is extremely degenerate
If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.
The OT, being largely a history book,
LMAO, no Jews were not slaves in Egypt Haman isn't a real person. Many of their stories are simply plagiarized from older myths.
Jews plagiarizing, unbelievable.
a history surprisingly mundane
Cope, Hadrian stomped the Jews for a reason.
They are in their own book that depicts them favorably evil Blood magicians. That sacrifice people and curse other people.
They are the lowest and most barbaric of their time.
The Vikings
Nigger the Vikings is a modern conception. Projecting power doesn't make you a savage you pathetic spiritual cuckold.
What makes you a savage is irrational brutality and practices. Like he Jews torturing and sacrificing animals and even humans so they can rape with clean conscious.
polygamy was common
Who cares if polygamy was common among sand nigger it still is and it isn't and never was among Western people.
Human sacrifice, slavery, tribalism, caste-systems, all great European things big bad Christianity stomped out.
Slavery is endorsed in the Bible.
The existence of human sacrifices among ancient Western tribes is highly unlikely.
Most of it is Roman propaganda slandering the other tribes.
The only archeological evidence that might be considered is on dig in France that has decapitated corpses buried.
We don't know why they were decapitated and if it was post mortem or as just punishment, it could have been due to sacrificial reasons.
But that is literally all that is left that might support the idea that ancient Europeans sacrificed people.
Caste-System, the least rigid one comes out of Europe specifically the Germans tribes.

You are as delusional as the other guy, you attribute what was achieved by European people to Jewish myths.
To keep this irrational thinking in your head alive you have to ignore what a shithole Christian Afrika is.
You mean didn't include. The Greek Philosophers like Plato would have you an enslaved serf, forced to kowtow to them and serve their every whim. Your sons would be raped during pederasty because the Greek Philosophers literally believed that they were the best and should be the masters of all civilization. That shit is the original root of Marxism.
Cool Europhobic rant, that completely misses the point.
This proves you really don't understand the role of religion, nor the past well enough to comment on it and are getting shit from pop history.
Cool "No You" response.
So let me join in, you know nothing about the conquest of Christianity of Europe or the Holy roman empire.
Their ideological systems were literally designed in opposition to Christianity, and both Marxist and National Socialist regimes did their best to subvert and destroy Christianity.
Cool fanfiction bor. But not what happened.
It brought the most powerful, most peaceful, most cultured, and most wealthy civilization known to man.
That's write it wasn't the European people it was the Jewish myths.
Christian Afrika is gonna land on the moon any day now.
You never proposed a plan, what to replace Christianity with.
Why would I need to replace a tumor with anything, you remove it.
Christianity sure seems to be doing a lot better than any alternative
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true, show me the non White Christian nation that is booming due to Christianity.
Wait the all suck, funny how that works.
Christianity is completely degenerate now it offered zero resistance to degeneration to societal decay.
It's in the Christian nations where you find drag queen story hours.
The most Christian Western nation is the prime exporter of degeneracy to the world.

The truth is that it took 2000 years for Christianity to drive the highly moral and just European people to this point of degeneracy.
Turn the other cheek, love your enemy, hate your family, believe in the Jewish prophets, one world government under the Mashiach, all these memetics are not only spiritual cuckoldry they are unnatural poison that slowly sickened the European spirit.

Whats with this retardation that everyone in europe was a peace loving hippy while the mid east and africa were child sacrificing hellholes before the advent of christianity and islam ( still true though ) just because europe didnt have everyone burning their kids to a dem...i mean a bull idol doesnt mean that somehow euroland was free of weird degen bullshit.
The best evidence that Europe was more just and had higher morals than the Arab world is evident in the stories and archaeology.
We know what laws the Germanic tribes lived under.
They are basically what you consider good and just minus the pacifism and the Jewish myths.

What is the story of Beowulf or the Nibelungen Saga about?
About a just man that fights evil and peruse his goals with conviction.

Now compare that to Jewish myths like their stories about Egypt.
It's about a blood mage that murders all the firstborn of the people who allow him and his desert people to live in their city with murderous blood magic. And they still harbor feelings of revenge and hate towards the Egyptians today.
 
Whats with this retardation that everyone in europe was a peace loving hippy while the mid east and africa were child sacrificing hellholes before the advent of christianity and islam ( still true though ) just because europe didnt have everyone burning their kids to a dem...i mean a bull idol doesnt mean that somehow euroland was free of weird degen bullshit.
I'm not sure what you are talking about what people think of Europe before Christianity. Human sacrifice, polygamy, slavery, etc were quite common and I don't think that isn't common knowledge? At least I've never heard anyone claiming Europe was some kind of awesome utopia before the conversions, even among heathen reconstructionists. Even after Christianity, you could argue many cruel and inhumane practices continued in different forms. War never ended, torture never ended, etc.

The only thing Marxists want to hear is total surrender to Marxism to bring about communism. There is no common ground.
Indeed, but again, I think in his mind he thinks that there are some common ground because of the theory of Christian communal living. The only really successful one that I can think of is Bruderhof and it isn't Catholic. Probably more productive to talk to them if that's the direction he wants to go in instead of with a bunch of idiot Marxists.

It's embarrassing enough to be a Catholic today. The Church's sole function, if they want to win back the faithful they lost instead of padding their numbers with the unwashed masses in Africa and South America, is get the child rapists out of the priesthood and nunneries.
Eh, I am not embarrassed to be Catholic. That is a bit counter-productive. It is best to demand better of our clergy and continue to pray and live the life Christ told us to lead. Nothing the Pope does has any effect on the Christ's truth and our commitment to follow it.

Remember Christ's promise to us:

Matthew 16: 18
And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
 
Matthew 16: 18
And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

The only conclusion is that Christ's Church is Eastern Orthodox, not Roman Catholic
 
@Skeletonized Cow, I really don't care about this religious slapfight but I do have some issues with some of your statements regarding historical events, cultures and practices.
The Vikings stopped being savages who thrived on loot and pillage after Christianization.
Denmark was the first country in Scandinavia to officially become Christian near the end of the Tenth century, however Viking raids would still be launched from there from time to time, something similar happened in Norway and Sweden and that's mainly because most Vikings were either bastard children or so far down their family line of succession that they'd never ever inherit any land or title so going on raids across the seas to rape and pillage was a good way to build prestige and fame back home, once feudalism and proper trade began to be established across Scandinavia those kinds of men now would serve either as Serfs working the land or as mercenaries.
The Romans stopped their de facto human sacrifices and blood sports under Christianity.
Gladiator games were already losing popularity before Constantine, with Chariot races being the thing that ultimately replaced them, with the de facto human sacrifice part I imagine you are talking about the ritual strangulation of captives at the end of a Triumph which yes, they stopped in the Christian age, we know that during Belisarius triumph in Constantinople none of the captives, not even the captured king, were strangled.
Wretched practices like slavery have been stamped out of huge swathes of this Earth because of the efforts of Christian civilization.
I agree, for the most part, in Europe slavery stopped being practiced mainly due to feudalism, which as a system was first implemented during Diocletian's reign, in European colonies in the Americas however slavery was brought back to fill in the massive plantations and mines, mainly in the Caribbean and South America since most of the native population had died out due to disease and bringing in European serfs would've been expensive and damaging to the production and economy of their home regions, when the colonies started to gain independence slavery was either abolished almost immediatly or it would take a few decades for it to happened and the abolishment mostly came to one of two things, either for humanitarian reasons or for economic ones, of course, globally, as you said, slavery was mostly stopped by the British Empire who did it for the humanitarian/moral reasons.
Human sacrifice, slavery, tribalism, caste-systems, all great European things big bad Christianity stomped out.
Those things were replaced by things like being burned alive for being deemed a heretic, slavery, tribalism and the caste-systems were replaced with feudalism, sure, you wouldn't be taken as a slave by some pagan army and then sacrificed to their dark gods during wartime since now everyone was Christian, you would just be put to the sword if you were a man and raped and maybe killed if you were a woman and the caste-system barely changed, the old tribal chiefs became nobles who could and did abuse their power all the time.

Those are my main disagreements with your post.
 
Jesus was and will be the only good communist in human history. This is only the case due to Jesus preaching and living a life of absolute selflessness as well as an afterlife free from want where everyone is equal in the eyes of God.
Any other form of communism is doomed to fail and cause massive amounts of death and suffering, since normal humans are incapable of that degree of selflessness and are generally, pretty retarded.
Though I know Jesus would say to reach out to the people committing sin, he wouldn't tell those people that what they were doing was okay or acceptable.
 
I'm surprised this idiot hasn't been fedposted in minecraft yet.

How many assassination attempts did john paul get?
 
And doing what? We're the ones with all the guns.

You're not actually a Marxist revolutionary, Ashley, you're an extremely lonely and crazy housewife and your arsenal is puny and pathetic (husband has 2 guns) and nothing about you scares anyone, certainly not your online larping tough talk. Go write some more detailed fat fantasies of taking a blowtorch to the skin of anyone who makes fun of you while their children and pets are raped. Maybe that will make you happy for a few minutes. But I tend to doubt it, you're one of the most blatantly miserable people I've ever encountered, online or offline.
 
Jesus was and will be the only good communist in human history. This is only the case due to Jesus preaching and living a life of absolute selflessness as well as an afterlife free from want where everyone is equal in the eyes of God.
Any other form of communism is doomed to fail and cause massive amounts of death and suffering, since normal humans are incapable of that degree of selflessness and are generally, pretty retarded.
Though I know Jesus would say to reach out to the people committing sin, he wouldn't tell those people that what they were doing was okay or acceptable.
Jesus isn't a communist. Jesus largely condemned the concept of money. Communism does the opposite
 
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When I was little, I never understood why the Klu Klux Klan hated Catholics. Now I'm realizing they're basically the Jews of Christianity.
 
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Sounds to me it’s about time for Christianity to break away from the State and the Church. Bible says you can hold church anywhere, better to have it as a private matter now that the commercialization has fully set in.
 
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jews did not invent communism. communism can trace it's roots back to medival europe, definitely not the mideast
This is not true. The Bible records how Joseph implemented the proto-Bolshevik plan to enslave the goyim by tricking the indegenous Aryan-descended Egyptians into selling themselves as slaves to the Hamitic African Pharaoh and giving all their property to the state. This was the same move Paul pulled when he corrupted the Aryan Christ's teachings, except on a larger scale (the whole Roman/Edomite empire instead of just Egypt).
 
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