There was an article on the BBC earlier about Ukraine having shot down a Russian plane. Is this a case of disputing who shot it down or is this two separate incidents?
BBC usually just reprints Ukrainian propoganda.
Ukraine said they shot down something like 7 fighter jets in 2-3 days a few weeks ago.
They verifiably shot down one or two.
Ukraine has claimed HUNDREDS of Russian fixed wing aircraft and hundreds of helicopters.
Verifiably, less than 80 jets and around 100 helicopters have been lost (destroyed ) in Ukraine and a fair few of those to Russian friendly fire.
Fixed.
Not like we would get an official denial/confirmation.
Original claim came from ukrops and then it spread to Russian telegram. So far I haven't seen anything beyond that one photo with shredded tail that was taken who knows when or where. Fighter bomber is not a channel I personally trust, got caught spreading bs several times. I'm not convinced.
He usually doesn't post bullshit about losses.
Now, the real question is this, would it be worse to say "we shot down a very valuable airplane behind the lines flying a known route" or "the Ukrainians manage to get a high class AA system close enough to shoot down a very valuable airplane"
I am in Germany right now and there are Bundeswehr recruitment ads everywhere.
There is talk of reinstating conscription (Wehrpflicht) to account for the lack of recruits.
I howl with laughter at how the west has destroyed all semblance of patriotism and now they wonder why they can't recruit any sold
Ahahaha lol. Germany deserves this.
Are you sure it was an actually blue on blue accident and not a traitor within the ranks?
It seems awfully convenient that it just happened to destroy one of Russia's few AWACS planes.
It would not be the first time that the SBU has hired traitors, knowing and unknowing, within Russia.
Traitor as in suicide bomber or bomb on the jet?
Maybe but probably unlikely. RuAF is a very prestigious job in the Russian military and a traitor would probably try and defect rather than blow up a jet.
It is the bbc. They're about as trustworthy as ukrop media themselves.
It is probably another separate incident (which likely never occurred or maybe the Russian aircraft sustained damage but made it home).
Probably. Ukraine claimed something like a dozen jets on one day a few days ago.....
Like I said, we'll probably never know. It's war. Shit happens.
It does speak to the lack of overall Ukrainian success that the destruction of a single plane has caused such a celebration on social media. It's a plane.
We'll know in a few decades for sure.
It's an extremely valuable plane that's a flying radar and control platform. Russia has ~10 A-50Us operational (now 8-9) and the replacement A-100 is 4+ YEARS late.
The other A-50s are 1980s vintage.
Overall the Russian air force has at best 20 A-50s.
That said the first A-100 should be entering service this year.
What Russia could do is buy the exported version back from China in the interim
Yeah, the Drive I know....
Eurasian times
