US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

If America was united and was at war with the world

UNFORTUNETLY this is not the case so instead diversity hires and trannies have all those munitions and will likely just end up blowing that texas sized hole in their base instead. A united people and will I don't think is gonna happen until a looooot of people go away.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

UNFORTUNETLY this is not the case so instead diversity hires and trannies have all those munitions and will likely just end up blowing that texas sized hole in their base instead. A united people and will I don't think is gonna happen until a looooot of people go away.

Yeah, we have to smack a lot of people into a crater before that rainbow can even touch the ground.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I was hoping tonight would be the end of the delusions of Nimrata, Meatball, and the Never-Trumpers but I'm realizing that's not realistic.

Basically they are hoping the SC or the GOP brass will say Trump can't run so they can swoop in and get the nomination. Doesn't matter how much he BTFO of them now, as long as they are still around later.

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

what exactly the Russians could do when 250 F-35s start pushing in their shit?

are you thinking with retarded war games rules where the F-35s are instantly teleported fully armed right outside russia along with the crew needed to maintain them?

 

[dustbuster]

I was hoping tonight would be the end of the delusions of Nimrata, Meatball, and the Never-Trumpers but I'm realizing that's not realistic.

Basically they are hoping the SC or the GOP brass will say Trump can't run so they can swoop in and get the nomination. Doesn't matter how much he BTFO of them now, as long as they are still around later.

I kind of want the GOP and their old guard to pull that shit.
I'm tired of dealing with boomers under the delusion these people are still patriots.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

I was hoping tonight would be the end of the delusions of Nimrata, Meatball, and the Never-Trumpers but I'm realizing that's not realistic.

Basically they are hoping the SC or the GOP brass will say Trump can't run so they can swoop in and get the nomination. Doesn't matter how much he BTFO of them now, as long as they are still around later.

they'd have to be dumb as bricks to think that anyone would trust them after a Judas-tier move. The lust for power really destroyed these people, didn't it? Might only vote local and state this year.

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

Again, all it takes is one piece of legislation, then we’re back on track. You have no idea how much bureaucratic bullshit holds things up. I say two months because that is how long it takes to beat the protesters out of the factories once we reopen them. No one can out produce an unchained America.

Lolwut? You can't just reopen a factory and magically expect it to be in production. This isn't HOI4, you can't just switch to wartime economy and magically have a mighty industry. None of the factories shut down since our industrial height were mothballed and kept up properly, they were left to rot. You would need to replace machinery, ensure the buildings are in good enough shape to be usable and safe, repair what is falling apart. Most of these machines aren't made anymore either, at least not anywhere the West can get them, so we would need to make the machines to make the stuff we need. Which means we need machines to make the machines, and so on.

Even expanding what we have to a still insufficient level for just one resource (artillery shells) is estimated to take a further three to five years assuming the planned schedule is kept. This is well known, public knowledge and has been discussed thoroughly earlier. As someone who literally works in a MIC-adjacent plant that makes cluster bombs and other similar shit, the sheer amount of rot and trouble I've personally seen is staggering.

 

[Vic Smackey]

Then tell me oh enlightened one, what exactly the Russians could do when 250 F-35s start pushing in their shit? When the sky is made of metal and every radar station, command station, rail depo and storage facility gets turned into a crater an hour after war is declared? I have read the Ukraine war threads, and have seen an Ukrainian army with old or obsolete equipment and no air support get 5-10 to 1 kill ratios against an army willing to zerg their way to small territorial gains. Just a few days ago I watched a video of 2 bradleys fucking up a t-90. How is it propaganda to understand that the military, that has resorted to human wave tactics against an underfunded under equipped corrupt pos country led by a fucking comedian, will fold immediately when faced with an enemy that can kill them when firing from half a continent away.

And by the way, the neocon line is that Russia is a dire threat which needs billions more money to the MIC to answer, so next time you try to shill for Putin you might want to update your insults.

We have a different view of the reality of Russo/Ukro war. My view: contemporary warfare favours defense over offense, Russian equipment isn't materially worse than NATO equipment and a hell of a lot cheaper, and that Russia still doesn't mind a war of attrition. So no, a conventional US/Russo war would not be an instant wipe out, as if that were to be the case Ukraine would not need to lose at the ratios they currently are.

 

[dustbuster]

Even expanding what we have to a still insufficient level for just one resource (artillery shells) is estimated to take a further three to five years assuming the planned schedule is kept.

It's bullshit.
Communism doesn't work, and at this point our entire war industry is state-planned communism in flagrante delicto.

They tried to "centrally plan" the gear-up of on-shore silicon with the CHIPS act and it's already 100% behind schedule because feds fuck up everything they touch.

The corrupt shitbags in D.C. destroyed the domestic industry that won us WWII and are either too egotistical, too bought out bought out by foreigners, or both, to admit it and roll back the 3 generations of law and regulation that did it to us.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I don't like trump "the man" . Trump the man is a blowhard coward. However, Trump THE MAN is an atavistic representation of the vox populi. Trump THE MAN's story is not finished. The King shall return to his rightful throne, and punish the traitors and heretics.

 

[The Hardest R]

My niggas in Iowa are fired up for Trump and everyone is down on the other candidates. People are going to accept a #girlboss pajeet even less than Jeb! in 2016.

As someone who literally works in a MIC-adjacent plant that makes cluster bombs and other similar shit, the sheer amount of rot and trouble I've personally seen is staggering.

Some people believe that we can just convert a Bad Dragon dildo factory into a manufacturer of war materiel because they did it in World War II but what is considered acceptable eighty years ago is nowhere near sufficient now. Nobody wants to listen to that because Team America, fuck yeah! These people have little or no clue what goes into manufacturing in general these days, let alone what is considered a bare minimum for war against a major country, which Russia definitely is. We wiped out a big chunk of material due to The Retard War in Ukraine.

Any fantasies about wiping out Russia in 48 hours are the exact same fantasies of Ukraine being able to wipe out Russia in 48 hours a couple years ago and we saw how those predictions came to pass. I hear Putler is going to abdicate any day now!

 

[Betonhaus]

All of our problems are social. We haven’t shipped our entire Cold War stockpile to Ukraine, they literally have nowhere to even store it.

Who said anything about storing it? Ukraine just gets everything blown up or sold to the black market.

 

[dustbuster]

Any fantasies about wiping out Russia in 48 hours are the exact same fantasies of Ukraine being able to wipe out Russia in 48 hours a couple years ago

It MIGHT.. MIGHT have been feasible had we kept our heads down since Granada.
Operation Desert Storm was a public demonstration of US capability, and our rivals took notice.
By 1999 they had the necessary adaptations down to defeat the lynchpins of what made Desert Storm a success, and over the next 20 years that knowledge and tech became so commoditized our ships at sea are now being attacked from mud huts in Africa.

 

[Betonhaus]

Some people believe that we can just convert a Bad Dragon dildo factory into a manufacturer of war materiel because they did it in World War II but what is considered acceptable eighty years ago is nowhere near sufficient now. Nobody wants to listen to that because Team America, fuck yeah! These people have little or no clue what goes into manufacturing in general these days, let alone what is considered a bare minimum for war against a major country, which Russia definitely is. We wiped out a big chunk of material due to The Retard War in Ukraine.

During WWII most products (from toys to appliamnces) being made were being made in-house out of sheet metal and castings, meaning that switching to weaponry was a lot easier. You can't make grenades and guns out of plastic and cardboard and expect them to make it to the battlefield.

 

[George Lucas]

The cope machine has started.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Trump has won a super majority in Iowa. All other candidates combined could not muster up more then 50% of the vote.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Trump declared winner with under 1% reporting in in Iowa.

New meme template,

 

[Skeletonized Cow]

It's bullshit.
Communism doesn't work, and at this point our entire war industry is state-planned communism in flagrante delicto.

They tried to "centrally plan" the gear-up of on-shore silicon with the CHIPS act and it's already 100% behind schedule because feds fuck up everything they touch.

The corrupt shitbags in D.C. destroyed the domestic industry that won us WWII and are either too egotistical, too bought out bought out by foreigners, or both, to admit it and roll back the 3 generations of law and regulation that did it to us.

Problem is, even if they rolled back everything to Industry's halcyon days of the 1970s and 1980s, we're still fucked. According to the DoD report in the other thread, our industrial workforce has shed 36% of its population since 1979. But that's general industry, which includes many things not directly related to a war economy. Actual "Defense Industrial Base" jobs are down 63%! We're expecting 1/3rd the population to produce weaponry and material on a scale not seen since WW2

My niggas in Iowa are fired up for Trump and everyone is down on the other candidates. People are going to accept a #girlboss pajeet even less than Jeb! in 2016.

Some people believe that we can just convert a Bad Dragon dildo factory into a manufacturer of war materiel because they did it in World War II but what is considered acceptable eighty years ago is nowhere near sufficient now. Nobody wants to listen to that because Team America, fuck yeah! These people have little or no clue what goes into manufacturing in general these days, let alone what is considered a bare minimum for war against a major country, which Russia definitely is. We wiped out a big chunk of material due to The Retard War in Ukraine.

Any fantasies about wiping out Russia in 48 hours are the exact same fantasies of Ukraine being able to wipe out Russia in 48 hours a couple years ago and we saw how those predictions came to pass. I hear Putler is going to abdicate any day now!

During WWII most products (from toys to appliamnces) being made were being made in-house out of sheet metal and castings, meaning that switching to weaponry was a lot easier. You can't make grenades and guns out of plastic and cardboard and expect them to make it to the battlefield.

Even if we were still using steel and iron, and other metals for all domestic industries, we still couldn't pull a WW2 style economic switchover. Not to powerlevel too hard, but steel and iron isn't really used for the totality of material anymore; specialty metals like titanium or tungsten, and specialty materials like some of this bullshit alloy I've worked with made of five different rare metals or ceramics are impossible to work with using conventional metalworking tools. You can't make a rocket part that uses a silver-tungsten alloy with the same die press you would use for a toy car. Specialization, while being beneficial in some areas, does have the drawback that we can't do a WW2 style switch even if we get our domestic industry revived at some point in the future.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The cope machine has started.

Authority is not given to them to deny the return of the king.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

What an exciting Caucus. The first time I have ever seen a vicious fight for second fucking place.